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NAV software fitting screen of the Topaz?

Hello!
I'm about to receive my Diamond 2 (announced for next week in Switzerland, reserved and paid already), but I'm wondering which Nav software will be the best, fitting the screen and screen resolution. Any idea?

Hey! I live in Switzerland too and I'm waiting for my device also.
For me the best NAV Software is iGO... and I hope it's going to go well with Diamond2's resolution.

There's a thread in Blackstone section (another WVGA device) without about 50 pages or so about nav' programs. Just go over there, there's a lot of info you could use.
EDIT: Here's the thread about TomTom, there's a similar about iGO
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432410&highlight=tomtom

@d3sm0nd: hehe... seems like we still have to wait 10 days iGo is a good product which I will first try.
@NoWorthWhile: Thank you for your message. I had (I just sold it) a HD and was running (had pain with that) iGo, following this famous 50 pages thread. Knowing that the screens have the same resolution but not the same size, I was wondering if this could apply to the Diamond2 as well.
Man... I can't wait to have mine!

Well basically, what i'm thinking is that software doesn't care about the size of the screen, but only about the resolution. IMHO you should have no problems
But not owning a TD2 (i'm on the first TD) I can't tell for sure.

NoWorthWhile said:
Well basically, what i'm thinking is that software doesn't care about the size of the screen, but only about the resolution. IMHO you should have no problems
But not owning a TD2 (i'm on the first TD) I can't tell for sure.
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quick question sorry its kinda off topic but doesnt that mean the screen on the diamond is A LOT sharper than the touch hd?

sharper, yes....a lot? well, u go from 3.8 to 3.2 inches with the same number of pixels, so each pixel is 15% smaller in size, and 30% smaller in area....
To say that this is a lot, or a little, is entirely up to you ;-)
imho, the pixel density of diamond or diamond 2 is very high, borderline of being overkill, especially if you are not myopic (furtunately, I am, but for older people with hypermetropy problem, such a high resolution on a screen this size is a waste imho, while it is not on the HD).
I am glad that highend WinMo device seems to go to WVGA resolution as standard, it is I think the best for a screen around 3.5'' inches (no need to go higher, it is already too high for video but nice for static images). Increasing the number of color and constrast would I think be the next logical step...
For info, going from HVGA to VGA means a decrease of 25% in size, 45% in area....so the difference increase of sharpness between HD and diamond 2 is less than what you would have if the iPhone went from barely ok (HVGA) resolution to good resolution (VGA) ;-)

The PPI density of the Diamond2 works out at around 292 (SQRT((800^2)+(480^2))/3.2). This is less than the highest resolution the average human eye can resolve unaided, which is around 300 PPI, but its not far off it. So what that means is that someone with average eyesight will actually notice an increase in sharpness looking at the same image on a Diamond2 screen as that on a Touch HD screen.

shuflie said:
The PPI density of the Diamond2 works out at around 292 (SQRT((800^2)+(480^2))/3.2). This is less than the highest resolution the average human eye can resolve unaided, which is around 300 PPI, but its not far off it. So what that means is that someone with average eyesight will actually notice an increase in sharpness looking at the same image on a Diamond2 screen as that on a Touch HD screen.
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When you speak about human eye resolution, you should always put it in PPI at a certain distance, or an angle of resolution, PPI alone are not usefull: I am sure anybody wth a more or less functional eye can pick the difference between HD and TD2 from 6 inches (15cm) away , if they can focus at that distance...from 20 inches (50 cm) away, it will take a good eye...from 3 feet (1m), my guess is that it is not humanly possible (or maybe some fighter pilots, or people with a very succesfull high order refractive lazik surgery? ;-) ).
I routinely watch my pda screen from 25-30 cm away (10-12 inches), so TD2 resolution will not be lost, at least on static images. For video, human eye resolution is lower, so there I think TD2 screen may be overkill, or I would need to watch the screen closer and hope for no headache ;-)

I own an official version of TTN6 that I bought for my Touch Cruise. It won't install properly on the Diamond2. I did manage to get it running once but the display was all messed up.
I found a version 7 file on the internet somewhere that works great and the display looks truly fantastic. However, my maps from the version 6 package are not found for some reason.
I went to tomtom.com to buy some new maps via tomtomhome but when it asks to link the D2 to my online account it says I have an invalid version of tomtom so I can't do anything with it.

nav program
can report iGO is working.
need to edit sys text a bit then it is ok
add this
[rawdisplay]
autoconfig=1

try amazegps.com for a free solution. It does not download the maps to your phone though so as you drive it refreshes the maps. It does do spoken turn by turn directions and for free it's hard to beat. It works on the HD so it should work for the Topaz.

wilcovh said:
can report iGO is working.
need to edit sys text a bit then it is ok
add this
[rawdisplay]
autoconfig=1
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Good to hear this, does it look nice on Topaz's resolution?

think it looks good.
at first it was a bit weird because as soon as you switch the screen orientation the bottom bit of the screen was not used and could not get it back to be used in iGO. but when you add the line to the sys.txt it is fine
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From QVGA to VGA

Just a random thought I had. I own a Fuze and I love the 480 x 640 resolution of the screen. If someone gave me a phone with anything less than a VGA resolution I think I would go crazy. I saw my old Mogul laying around and decided to turn it on to compare both screens. What a difference! So, do you think you (VGA owners) could ever go back to QVGA?

i did, sold my touch pro and used my vogue. it was a hella big difference at first but when you get used to it, you will barely notice the difference
the biggest place where i miss my vga screen is when im web browsing

mike21pr said:
i did, sold my touch pro and used my vogue. it was a hella big difference at first but when you get used to it, you will barely notice the difference
the biggest place where i miss my vga screen is when im web browsing
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That sucks that you had to sell your TP. I can see how one would get used to the screen resolution again though, but for me it would be really hard.

I voted no, however I would have to agree with mike. For purely phone related tasks VGA is not necessary, however once you use the more "advanced" functionalities like web browsing, third party apps, VGA becomes quickly the minimum resolution, especially for web browsing.

VGA works great for me with my 3.5" 640 x 480 pixels, Just in 2008 devices started to make this screens and my Universal is from 2005!!
QVGA I really don´t like it
WVGA never used...

Awesome, that's sweet! palmares assurance vie​

VirgilIantu said:
Awesome, that's sweet!
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Welcome to the forum
May I know what is sweet?

It's def a big factor in choosing a phone, but sometime a qVGA phone is better. Like Omnia vs Diamond. Either way, I prefer my Storm's screen

TheChampJT said:
It's def a big factor in choosing a phone, but sometime a qVGA phone is better. Like Omnia vs Diamond. Either way, I prefer my Storm's screen
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I had no idea the Omnia was only QVGA. I figured it was such a well-rounded device and expected the VGA screen, but I guess not.
The Storm does have a beautiful screen though. I'll give you that. I'm really starting to regret getting rid of the Storm...

I can't have less than my Fuze's VGA screen. WVGA or higher is next for me!
BTW, what is the name for screens with res 360 x 640, like the Omnia HD and Idou. I googled it but no go . . . it may be "qHD" though?

adeltaY said:
BTW, what is the name for screens with res 360 x 640, like the Omnia HD and Idou. I googled it but no go . . . it may be "qHD" though?
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qHD sounds good, but I doubt that's the name for it. Actually (and I could be completely wrong) I think 360 x 640 is still considered VGA. I think that maybe once it gets to a certain amount of pixels it would change up to the next level. I don't think I know what I'm talking about.

I had my HD, and i thought that all WM devices look like this until my brother got an Omnia, and i thought something was wrong with the device. Thats until i found the difference was WQVGA and WVGA.
BIG difference in quality, so no it will be hard to go from VGA to QVGA, but you will get used to it.

I've got the Blackstone, and briefly had the Omnia in my hand.
Returning to QVGA is pretty much impossible after you've got used to >= VGA.
However, the difference is not the screen real estate, but the DPI. Once you get used to a higher definition screen, it's horrible to go back to the ill defined QVGA screens. However, a small VGA screen still looks great, but a physically large QVGA screen looks even more hideous! (I recently had reason to pull out my IPAQ, the original ancestor to modern Windows Mobile devices, and was surprised to see that the screen was bigger than the Blackstone, but no where as well defined).
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MY Diamond screen cracked and my insurance company said they could not replace it, so offered me a £350 cheque. as I was due an upgrade in 3 months (1 month to go) I took their cash and banked it decideding to go back to my old artemis for a few months.
Whilst VGA is sooo much better, you can survive with QVGA. However I am happy with it because I know it is temporary till mid june (ish) when I get a TD2

Malta w/ IPS

Looks like the Malta is coming out w/ a IPS Tegra2 tablet.
http://armdevices.net/2011/02/15/malata-releases-new-tegra2-tablets/

Looks like that has the screen we've all been looking for. hope it will fit in my gtablet.

It's not a Tegra 2 - it's Cortex based, problem similar to what SmartQ is coming out with.
That IPS screen is 4:3, not 16:9 - it's the same as my R10 and will not fit into our GTAB.

jasco13 said:
Looks like that has the screen we've all been looking for. hope it will fit in my gtablet.
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Would be nice if that screen can work with our g tablets... Does seem it uses the same dock.
The info sheet says:
- dual cortex A9 processor 1 ghz (though not Tegra 2)
- 1GB DDR2 (very nice)
- Front 1.3 MP camera & Rear 5 MP camera (also nice)
- GPS (nice, but already have external GPS)
- 10" 1280x800 screen with wide viewing angles. (Very nice)
Roebeet you sure, that screen dosen't look 4:3 to me. I think you looking at the one they show at the end (iPadish one).

I think the IPS one is that last one (about 6:20). That's the 4:3 device - I don't think the other two are IPS. But I could be wrong.
I noticed one of them has light-up buttons - that's pretty sweet. Also, that IPS screen is a dual Cortex (Tegra, I assume?).

roebeet said:
It's not a Tegra 2 - it's Cortex based, problem similar to what SmartQ is coming out with.
That IPS screen is 4:3, not 16:9 - it's the same as my R10 and will not fit into our GTAB.
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Beet you may want to double check, looks like 16:9 to me. The spoke at begining that they were using a better screen. I sure hope this will fit our tablets. I got my friend to convert over, he loves this forum, thanks for your help!

ncaggie1989 said:
Beet you may want to double check, looks like 16:9 to me. The spoke at begining that they were using a better screen. I sure hope this will fit our tablets. I got my friend to convert over, he loves this forum, thanks for your help!
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The first two are 16:9 and might fit the GTAB - whether or not the angles are better remains to be seen (it does look look that way however, going on the video).
I get the impression that the LCD's must have been the biggest complaint with their first gen devices, since viewing angles and screen quality are being addressed this year. That's great!

roebeet said:
The first two are 16:9 and might fit the GTAB - whether or not the angles are better remains to be seen (it does look look that way however, going on the video).
I get the impression that the LCD's must have been the biggest complaint with their first gen devices, since viewing angles and screen quality are being addressed this year. That's great!
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The first device was the current g tablet, from what I could gather. The second has the new improved screen, he mentioned it had a better screen than the third device (iPad look-a-like). I don't know if it IPS or what, but it look like a much nicer screen.

RojasTKD said:
The first device was the current g tablet, from what I could gather. The second has the new improved screen, he mention it a better screen than the third device (iPad look-a-like). I don't know if it IPS or what, but it look like a much nicer screen.
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I second that. Even when he moved the tablets around you could still see what was on the screen! IPS or not, I will take that any day over the crap we have

thanks for the info, hope that some retailers will just sell the screen.. I guess that buying a new screen is still cheaper than buying a new terga 2 tablet like A10. I was thinking about pre-order the A10. Now, I can wait a little bit longer.. Save a few hundred bucks for the google IO conference...
The new model has a very similar specs to Xoom (all kinds of sensors, camera, etc), just wondering how much will it cost? 600+?

Did anyone else notice that he said the new tablet has 10 point multi-touch? That is cool, but I don't see needing more than 4 or 6.

jasco13 said:
Did anyone else notice that he said the new tablet has 10 point multi-touch? That is cool, but I don't see needing more than 4 or 6.
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It probably doesn't cost much more to put in 10 points then it does 4 points so its nice to have for bragging rights I guess.

10 points may be useful in the future. there are some rumors that apple is going to use more different gesture to control more screen actions such as turn on/off device, etc. (read it from Engagdet).. How's about playing a real panio program, or guitar.. it would be nice to have more touch points at the same time.. right? just a thought..

TF101 as a citrix thin client

I have gotten a TF101 to test it out as a supplementary mobile client.
We are running Citrix and I have a desktop published throug Citrix Receiver. I have found keyboard and mouse that works with this wonderful machine but I want to have an external display also.
But I find the HDMI support quite bad. The content fills more than the TV Screen and I cannot change the screen resolution. I would like to have a larger screen resolution on the external display but cannot find any way to do this.
I have a LG Optimus 3D phone and on that I can adjust a lot of options on the HDMI port so it should be possible.
One snag: I am testing out this to be used in large scale for hundreds and eventually thousands of users so this needs to be working on completely stock operating system.

Maybe the Asus HDMI to VGA Adaptor is something to think about?
http://www.asus.com/Peripherals_Accessories/Eee_Pad_Accessories/Mini_HDMI_to_VGA_Cable/

modmatt said:
Maybe the Asus HDMI to VGA Adaptor is something to think about?
http://www.asus.com/Peripherals_Accessories/Eee_Pad_Accessories/Mini_HDMI_to_VGA_Cable/
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Ok. I got this one and it almost fills my need. I need to get a higher screen resolution on the external display. 1280x720 is way to small for a permanent workstation. At least with the tools I use.
Maybe I just have to wait for ICS to get this working?

Are you trying HDMI on a TV or a monitor? If a TV does it look washed out and a little zoomed in? TV's have some over scan options that really mess with the signal from PCs. Look around the menu options of the TV and see if you can turn it off, alot of em can't tho. Just google HDMI PC overscan and you'll get a better picutre of what I'm talking about.
For res I don't think it can do better than 720 and I've never seen any options for it. I'd call up Asus if your going to be making a decision that could mean eventually thousands of sales for them.
Also don't forget that they said they're launching the Windows 8 Transformer this year. That should suit your needs beautifully.

How are you accessing your Citrix Desktop? Using the Receiver? Or is there another app specifically for Citrix Desktop access?
EDIT: Never mind, the VDI i was trying to access was taken down recently by the systems team. Do'h. Time to build a server.

Me personally I've been using the citrix beta app, seems to work better.

Tastycakess said:
Are you trying HDMI on a TV or a monitor? If a TV does it look washed out and a little zoomed in? TV's have some over scan options that really mess with the signal from PCs. Look around the menu options of the TV and see if you can turn it off, alot of em can't tho. Just google HDMI PC overscan and you'll get a better picutre of what I'm talking about.
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I tried with the VGA adapter on my 22" samsung syncmaster and the desktop filled the screen perfectly. Via HDMI to my 42 inch HDTV I got overscan problems.
It is though the monitor I need to use to acheive my goal of using it as a citrix thin client. I hope we can manipulate the HDMI output more in ICS. It would be nice to use the monitor's native resolution (1680x1050).

Tastycakess said:
Me personally I've been using the citrix beta app, seems to work better.
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Agreed. It has more options and seems more stable. Go figure.

The TF101 does not support greater than 720p output for mirroring. No word from Asus if they will ever bump it up to 1080p capability, since the Tegra 2 already struggles with 1080p video playback. You should wait for the TF700T for full 1080p output.

earlyberd said:
The TF101 does not support greater than 720p output for mirroring. No word from Asus if they will ever bump it up to 1080p capability, since the Tegra 2 already struggles with 1080p video playback. You should wait for the TF700T for full 1080p output.
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Actually 1080p is not what I need. 1280 is more than enough horisontal resolution, but 720 vertical is too little. If it could output 1280x1024 on an external monitor I'd be very happy.
What I say is that there should be an alternative to mirroring on the HDMI port. With the dock and usb ports the interal screen could be switched off and a resolution of choice be shown on the HDMI-connected display.

[Q] What is the right size of the Nvidia Shield Wallpaper

Hello everybody,
I have the Nvidia Shield since two days, and now, I would like to change the default wallpaper. But, I don't know what is the right size for the Nvidia Shield wallpaper. I don't think 1280x720 is the right size.
And I don't want to cut this wallpaper or that it's deformed.
I will try to find by myself, but if you know the answer, that would be nice to share it.
Thank you for all.
Best regards.

norgei said:
Hello everybody,
I have the Nvidia Shield since two days, and now, I would like to change the default wallpaper. But, I don't know what is the right size of the Nvidia Shield wallpaper. I don't think 1280x720 is the right size.
And i don't want to cut this wallpaper or that it's deformed.
I will try to find by myself, but if you know the answer, that would be nice to share it.
Thank you for all.
Best regards.
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This has always pissed me off, I also would like to know the correct size...

Doodle210 said:
This has always pissed me off ...
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Yeah, it's true.
Usually, for example, a device with a resolution of 540x960 (my Motorola Razr Maxx), the wallpaper resolution is of 1080x960.
Why? It's simple ; the screen is shared in fives (in my case) other virtual screens, to find the good resolution, you must multiply by two the width (540 in my case), what gives a finale resolution of 1080x960. I don't take into account the height.
It's the same way to find the wallpaper resolution of a device with fives virtual screens. On the other hand, with more (or less) virtual screens, I won't be able to tell you which is calculation to be made, but that shouldn't be very complicated to find it.
To come back to the resolution of the Nvidia Shield wallpaper, I applied this principle of calculation ((1280x2)x720 = 2560x720), but that doesn't function. I'm lost.

norgei said:
Yeah, it's true.
Usually, for example, a device with a resolution of 540x960 (my Motorola Razr Maxx), the wallpaper resolution is of 1080x960.
Why? It's simple ; the screen is shared in fives (in my case) other virtual screens, to find the good resolution, you must multiply by two the width (540 in my case), what gives a finale resolution of 1080x960. I don't take into account the height.
It's the same way to find the wallpaper resolution of a device with fives virtual screens. On the other hand, with more (or less) virtual screens, I won't be able to tell you which is calculation to be made, but that shouldn't be very complicated to find it.
To come back to the resolution of the Nvidia Shield wallpaper, I applied this principle of calculation ((1280x2)x720 = 2560x720), but that doesn't function. I'm lost.
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1360x720
The width must be greater than the 1280 because of side-to-side scrolling, but height remains 720.

agrabren said:
1360x720
The width must be greater than the 1280 because of side-to-side scrolling, but height remains 720.
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Sorry to tell you that, but why do you think this size is appropriate?
I say that because I realize by making tests which the wallpaper must rather have the dimensions close to those of a square.
But it is almost impossible for me to find good dimensions
What is the f****** problem with the dimensions of the Nvidia Shield wallpaper? I always succeeded in finding good dimensions for the wallpapers of my numbers android devices (Motorola Razr Maxx, Motorola Xoom 2 ME, Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7, Toshiba Excite 7.7, Nook Tablet, Acer Iconia Smart).
On this blow, I dry, a little assistance would be it welcome (sorry for this expression, but I'm french, and I don't knom the appropriate expression for this felt)

I'm telling you the size of the NVIDIA wallpaper.
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agrabren said:
I'm telling you the size of the NVIDIA wallpaper.
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Ok, sorry, I had misunderstood .

norgei said:
Ok, sorry, I had misunderstood .
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No problem. I also don't bother updating my signature, but I'm a technical lead for SHIELD, I personally identified the required size of wallpapers for SHIELD, and was the one who made it the default.

could i request for a link to the original default nvidia shield wallpaper that comes on the unit?
I wanna turn it into a live wallpaper with a water splash effect if someone could link me to the original image and i promise to release it in the google play store

OK i know i am bringing up an old thread sorry about that. However I got my shield and recently i have been playing around with making wallpapers. agrabren says that it is 1360x720 and he did the original, that's all fine and good however I go into photoshop, create an image 1360x720 copy it over to the shield when i am done and go to load it as the wallpaper and it wants me to crop it horribly.
so does anyone know the real size of the wallpaper or how to get the supposed 1360x720 wallpaper onto the shield?
thanks

OK now this is strange and if someone can explain i'm all ears. so i coped out the framework-res.apk (because mine isn't rooted right now) and extracted the contents of it. the original wallpaper is 1360x720, however there are 3 other default wallpapers with the following sizes as well 1600x1280, 1920x1280, and another 1360x720. now i'm curious as to the optimal size of a photo so that when i go to set it as a wallpaper i do not have to do any cropping. anyone know?
edit: i figured out the initial problem that is rotation, i always forget about that so it wants strange cropped might be the best word images. anyway not being able to get a good clean image in there i found an app that might help others, look for image 2 wallpaper if anyone else cares. it is doing a good job for me anyway.

I don't worry about the wallpaper size and just use Nova Launcher, it have a more flexible way to crop wallpapers when setting them.

I know this thread is pretty old, but I was having a problem with NSP wallpapers by not knowing this information. The reason I'm posting up in an older thread is to simply help others, and to grow the knowledge base for the Shield Portable at XDA. The proper size for a Shield Portable wallpaper should be 1280x720. I confirmed this both through trial and error, and by checking out the size of a screenshot. I hope this info is found helpful.

eksasol said:
I don't worry about the wallpaper size and just use Nova Launcher, it have a more flexible way to crop wallpapers when setting them.
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I guess he doesn't want to use 3rd party launcher. That ruins the fun.

Are the Shield Wallpaper dimensions same in SPMC as well for backgrounds on New Build
agrabren said:
No problem. I also don't bother updating my signature, but I'm a technical lead for SHIELD, I personally identified the required size of wallpapers for SHIELD, and was the one who made it the default.
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Sir I am new to Shield as well..maybe a week in... is this the correct dimensions as well for lets say a skin background if I was running SPMC? I am desperately trying to figure out what the best dimensions I use to save photos and add them to my builds... Any help would be greatly appreciated!! Many Thanks