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Is it possible to change the resolution to 480 x 640 ?

Hi boys and girls, maybe some of you will find my question absurd, but that`s because they have not seen, what i saw a couple of weeks ago. A know a guy who owns one of those unpopular ASUS PDAs, and a couple of weeks back, he showed me that some Russian guys managed to change the resolution of his device from 240x320 to 480 x 640, which was amazing ... everything was looking so much better ... hence i thought it wasnt such a big deal, because i thought his pda`s screen has more colors than the TC as well, but seems like it wasnt that ... a friend bought the Touch Diamond 2 days back and when i saw the display i was amazed how nice everything looked ... no crappy color transitions ... all colors were so smooth ... so i told him how frustrated i am that htc didnt place more colors on my display as well ... later to realise that actually the diamond and the touch cruise have the same ammount of collors ... which takes me to my question ... does someone know if its possible to change the resolution of the Touch Cruise from 240x320 to 480x640 ? I`m sure alot of people will be interested in that as well.

You cannot change the resolution to anything higher than the hardware supports. The Cruise supports 240x320 and that's it. The diamond and Asus you saw has 480x640 support. When running these vga devices you will get a lot better graphics if you switch from stretching a 240x320 application to 480x640 compared to running a native 480x640 application.
It's like saying that you saw a guy going from black-and-white to full color on his color tv, and asking if that's possible on your old black-and-white travel tv as well.

NOT possible. Touch Cruise/Polaris have 320*240 pixels (76800 pixels).
You CAN'T split 1 pixel in 4 parts. It is not possible and never will be.

As strange as it may sound, i've seen a tablet PC that actually allows you to set a "higher than native" screen resolution. The driver simply scales the output image down to the native resolution, and yea, it looks terrible.
PS: To the original poster, don't get it wrong, you can't increase your screen resolution this way, just the resolution windows "thinks" is supported, and it looks like crap. Neither i ever seen this done on WinCE/WM.

After i made the post i talked with the guy who did that ... and yes he said it was due to to a software change of resolution and doesnt have the full potential of the VGA screens ... sadly i`m stuck to the not so nice looking display of my TC ... hopefully i`ll upgrade to a better device in the near future ... though it might not be a HTC, having in mind what they did regarding the 3D drivers ... i`m a bit dissapointed ... Thanks guys for the answers.

dotpocket
There is a program that allows you to change youre device's resolution to 480x640 but it just makes everything smaller. its called dotpocket.

Screen comparisons: AximX50v, iPhone3G and HTC

Hi all - thanks for such an informative forum! I'm looking to replace my beloved aging (and dying) Dell AximX50v, and the info at this site is very helpful.
I took this photo at my AT&T store, comparing the google homepage on the Axim's VGA screen, the iPhone, and the Tilt (the Touch Pro will have VGA resolution, but the screen size will be the same, I think).
The photo overemphasizes iPhone's brightness, just because it was directly below the camera lens and the other two devices were at an angle to the camera (the camera was close to the devices).
Touch Pro specs are awesome, but even the iPhone's screen is smaller than the x50v's...sigh. Why can't we have a great tool AND eye candy??!
Be seeing you,
The Duck

cant be sure but are you sure the other two phones were not using dimmed screen, i know for a fact that th diamond and my old Orbit has a significantly better screen brightness then those.

Hey, Dazza - no, the screens weren't dimmed. As a matter of fact, the photo posted above was the 2nd picture I took because the Tilt did dim the screen just as I took my first shot - here's what it looked like dimmed!
While the iPhone's screen was brightest, there's no question that both the Axim and the HTC screens looked substantially brigher than shows up in this photo. I can see a substantial difference on my Axim if I look at the screen straight on and if I look at it at even a very slight angle. When I got close to the 3 devices for the picture, the angle of the lens to screen didn't do any favors to the Axim or the HTC.
My purpose in sharing the photo was to illustrate screen SIZES though - there's a big difference between the Axim, the nearly same size iPhone, and that of the HTC! 'Natch, all are loads better than my Razr V3xx screen, though!
Be seeing you,
The Duck

The screen of the tilt still looks quite dim (although you said it looked brighter in real life.
Are you sure you also put the screen brightness on highest? By default, my TP adjusts its brightness according to the environment lighting.
I've uploaded some pics (the ones with my laptop (Asus G1S, full brightness) in the background are alternated between autoadjust/full brightness)
http://www.sanderd.be/public/htctp/screenbrightness/
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SanderD

I hear you! I love my Tilt, and have been looking at the Touch Pro as a good upgrade just to have my VGA back.
Having used the x50v, and just recently retiring my x51v, I understand what you mean by screen size. It would be nice if HTC and the others would make us spoiled by true PDAs something with a real screen.
I work with a guy who uses an HP PDA that has a 4" screen. It is absolutely wonderful to work off of. The only offering from HTC that is close, is the 5" Advantage, and is overkill for most.

Well I still have my glorious LOOX 720 and I can tell you, its screen is great (and even compared to the other VGA devices of the time, if you remember the tests), BUT, I easily moved to Touch Pro anyway.

ah, that would actually make sence, sorry i was bit stupid there, viewing angles!
Obviously need to exercise that part of my brain some more.

From QVGA to VGA

Just a random thought I had. I own a Fuze and I love the 480 x 640 resolution of the screen. If someone gave me a phone with anything less than a VGA resolution I think I would go crazy. I saw my old Mogul laying around and decided to turn it on to compare both screens. What a difference! So, do you think you (VGA owners) could ever go back to QVGA?

i did, sold my touch pro and used my vogue. it was a hella big difference at first but when you get used to it, you will barely notice the difference
the biggest place where i miss my vga screen is when im web browsing

mike21pr said:
i did, sold my touch pro and used my vogue. it was a hella big difference at first but when you get used to it, you will barely notice the difference
the biggest place where i miss my vga screen is when im web browsing
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That sucks that you had to sell your TP. I can see how one would get used to the screen resolution again though, but for me it would be really hard.

I voted no, however I would have to agree with mike. For purely phone related tasks VGA is not necessary, however once you use the more "advanced" functionalities like web browsing, third party apps, VGA becomes quickly the minimum resolution, especially for web browsing.

VGA works great for me with my 3.5" 640 x 480 pixels, Just in 2008 devices started to make this screens and my Universal is from 2005!!
QVGA I really don´t like it
WVGA never used...

Awesome, that's sweet! palmares assurance vie​

VirgilIantu said:
Awesome, that's sweet!
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Welcome to the forum
May I know what is sweet?

It's def a big factor in choosing a phone, but sometime a qVGA phone is better. Like Omnia vs Diamond. Either way, I prefer my Storm's screen

TheChampJT said:
It's def a big factor in choosing a phone, but sometime a qVGA phone is better. Like Omnia vs Diamond. Either way, I prefer my Storm's screen
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I had no idea the Omnia was only QVGA. I figured it was such a well-rounded device and expected the VGA screen, but I guess not.
The Storm does have a beautiful screen though. I'll give you that. I'm really starting to regret getting rid of the Storm...

I can't have less than my Fuze's VGA screen. WVGA or higher is next for me!
BTW, what is the name for screens with res 360 x 640, like the Omnia HD and Idou. I googled it but no go . . . it may be "qHD" though?

adeltaY said:
BTW, what is the name for screens with res 360 x 640, like the Omnia HD and Idou. I googled it but no go . . . it may be "qHD" though?
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qHD sounds good, but I doubt that's the name for it. Actually (and I could be completely wrong) I think 360 x 640 is still considered VGA. I think that maybe once it gets to a certain amount of pixels it would change up to the next level. I don't think I know what I'm talking about.

I had my HD, and i thought that all WM devices look like this until my brother got an Omnia, and i thought something was wrong with the device. Thats until i found the difference was WQVGA and WVGA.
BIG difference in quality, so no it will be hard to go from VGA to QVGA, but you will get used to it.

I've got the Blackstone, and briefly had the Omnia in my hand.
Returning to QVGA is pretty much impossible after you've got used to >= VGA.
However, the difference is not the screen real estate, but the DPI. Once you get used to a higher definition screen, it's horrible to go back to the ill defined QVGA screens. However, a small VGA screen still looks great, but a physically large QVGA screen looks even more hideous! (I recently had reason to pull out my IPAQ, the original ancestor to modern Windows Mobile devices, and was surprised to see that the screen was bigger than the Blackstone, but no where as well defined).
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MY Diamond screen cracked and my insurance company said they could not replace it, so offered me a £350 cheque. as I was due an upgrade in 3 months (1 month to go) I took their cash and banked it decideding to go back to my old artemis for a few months.
Whilst VGA is sooo much better, you can survive with QVGA. However I am happy with it because I know it is temporary till mid june (ish) when I get a TD2

HTC Obsession: Upgraded HD2

Rumor is around that HTC are prepping for an upgrade to HD2 with WinMo 7 .. http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=12268

I like amoled screen after seeing the Nexus One vs the HD2's but I would prefer it being the size of the HD2's. The screen on a phone that size is a gigantic plus of the HD2. I also like the 4gb internal memory and micro sd card feature.
Good looking phone. My hope is the HD2 can be upgraded to WM7 so I can have a honest choice when my wallet catches up to my desires.

The phone mentioned in that story is reported to have a 3.7" screen.
Since the HD2's biggest statement is its screen size, I would not call anything an upgraded HD2 if it has anything less than a 4.3" screen.

addicus said:
I like amoled screen after seeing the Nexus One vs the HD2's but I would prefer it being the size of the HD2's. The screen on a phone that size is a gigantic plus of the HD2. I also like the 4gb internal memory and micro sd card feature.
Good looking phone. My hope is the HD2 can be upgraded to WM7 so I can have a honest choice when my wallet catches up to my desires.
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if Nexus one that size I would get it in a heartbeat!

wonderbread57 said:
Since the HD2's biggest statement is is its screen size, I would not call anything an upgraded HD2 if it has anything less than a 4.3" screen.
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+1
Anything less than 4.3 would be a downgrade!

I think a 3.7" display would be fine..I love my HD2, but if it was a touch smaller, I wouldn't grumble either!!

Yeah, not just because screen it´s not bigger you can´t call it an upgrade.
Personally I prefer a screen of 3.7"

They're releasing an HTC HD2 with a smaler screen but AMOLED and better drivers.
Wow.
Amazing like a broken PC... lol.
IMHO this isn't a better device only because it has got 512MB RAM.. the HTC HD2's 4.3" screen is simply the better thing never seen. If only it would be AMOLED.........
Anyway, I think that I'll stay with my HTC HD2 for more than a year if they're releasing devices like this as a successor.
The only good thing to have is WM7 on the HD2.

kholk said:
IMHO this isn't a better device only because it has got 512MB RAM.. the HTC HD2's 4.3" screen is simply the better thing never seen. If only it would be AMOLED.........
Anyway, I think that I'll stay with my HTC HD2 for more than a year if they're releasing devices like this as a successor.
The only good thing to have is WM7 on the HD2.
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I read somewhere that the screen of HD2 is capable of displaying 16 million colors but is limited to 65K because of WM 6.5. If this is true, we should be able to get 'near Amoled' experience with HD2 running WinMo 7.

dnwizard said:
I read somewhere that the screen of HD2 is capable of displaying 16 million colors but is limited to 65K because of WM 6.5. If this is true, we should be able to get 'near Amoled' experience with HD2 running WinMo 7.
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Hardly. You won't even get close to OLED black levels on the HD2 screen, nor will you get the kind of smoothness of motion and lack of blur/judder that an OLED display gives you, nor will you get the major battery-life-extending benefits of OLED.
Even if the HD2's display is theoretically capable of >65k colours, it quite possibly still can't do 24-bit colour - most phone LCD displays are only 18-bit.
On the other hand, thus far most OLED screens seem to deliberately over-saturate the colours. My HD2's white point is a bit pushed to blue, but otherwise the colours are quite accurate. OLED sunlight readability is also often poor (although it has to be said the HD2's is pretty bad because the screen is so glossy).

Heh, well, the AMOLED display saturation is somehow superior in some images and it's not good while exposet at sunlight, but the battery life of an AMOLED screen device is really, REALLY SUPERIOR, because AMOLED simply powers down the pixel if it is pure black and it consumes less power because it plays on the voltage/amperage of an AMOLED pixel for "colouring" it.
Anyway, I'm just happy with my HTC HD2 and with his pretty BIG screen.... we can only wait and see if WM7 will use 24bit colors with the HD2's screen!

...I think the battery (1230 mAh) is not enough for this specs.

the obsession is just another device from htc coming after hd2 doesnot mean it is an upgrade to hd2 if it was we would consider td2 as an upgrade to blackstone
and upgrade means huge different in specifications (like between hd1 and hd2 so the 64 mb more ram is not a really upgrade as they have the same processor running at 1gz )

cause its size i think its more diamond3 than hd3... looks like my next phone

this would be my next phone too....but..who knows when we will ever see it....at best it's still 9 months away!!!

bnm7bnm said:
cause its size i think its more diamond3 than hd3... Looks like my next phone
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you are right it seems to be upgrade for diamond 2

Whatever devices come out next, I`m hoping they will have a TV out (or even HDMI).
It would be great, to have a mobile film player wherever we go ( for the kids of course), but also would not have to remote desktop using a tiny screen.

hoss_n2 said:
you are right it seems to be upgrade for diamond 2
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It's being released awfully late if it's an upgrade to the TD2; the TD2 launched last April, but the Obsession isn't out till October - HTC doesn't usually leave that long between refreshes. And from a 3.2" screen to 3.7" is quite a jump, especially bearing in mind that the TD2 was positioned specifically as a smaller and lighter equivalent of the Touch HD and TP2.
Still, I agree that the consensus does seem to be that it's a Diamond 2 replacement (possibly originally intended to ship earlier but delayed by the late arrival of WM7).

Any news up on this? Waiting for snapdragon WM6.5 phone with no giant screen to replace my Diamond1.

looking at the thread i was just wondering is there anyone who loves small and sharp displays

[Q] Higher Resolution Android Phones

I'm very surprised the Nexus S didn't come out with a higher resolution Super Amoled screen. Apparently, 2.3 supports higher resolution according to wikipedia. I'm just waiting for a new android phone with a higher resolution/pixel density to put the iphone 4 to shame.
Imagine, a Super Amoled screen with a 1024x768 or 1280x720 resolution would be the best mobile phone screen in the world.
When do you think we will realistically see android phones with higher resolution displays?

The current Super AMOLED screen already trades blows with the Retina Display. I'm sure there will be higher res screens at some point but whats the rush? Wouldnt a higher resolution screen be more of a burden on battery than the current screens already are anyway? I'd see resolutions that high being more relevant for tablets and PMP than phones.

Why? It will drain battery more and more, and higher resolution don't need for still small display. Just imagine, MP3 player with Desktop resolution.
Haha? Try push sensor button, wtf it's so small...
U wanna get more ability to use sensor keyboard? (sarcastic)

Well, android definitely needs to match or better the 640x960 resolution of the iPhone 4 to maintain feature parity.

The current SuperAMOLED screens are less battery consuming than old LCD and Retina, so bigger resolutions shouldn't be a battery problem.
But what's the point of having 1280x768 on a 4" screen?
I'm pretty satisfied with 480x320 on 3.2" and 800x480 on 4" looks also awesome.

The Meizu M9 have a 960x640 display, but (even if you are in china) this little boy is still difficult to find.
The next Meizu (M9ii) will have a 1280×854 or 1280×800 4" screen, and should be animated by a Tegra2 with 1Gb of RAM. They said that the release date will be on middle 2011, so maybe we will be able to grap it in the late 2011.
The two phones are running on a custom android 2.2 (the UI is very different from the classical Android).
For the battery, it's more backlight that drains power.
A higher resolution will only put a little more stress on the GPU, but if the OS is well coded, it should not consume a lot more.

DPI, its all about DPI

You can have all the DPI in the world, but all its gonna mean is LAG and Battery if we're still relying on the CPU to push pixels.

dimon222 said:
Why? It will drain battery more and more, and higher resolution don't need for still small display. Just imagine, MP3 player with Desktop resolution.
Haha? Try push sensor button, wtf it's so small...
U wanna get more ability to use sensor keyboard? (sarcastic)
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You have absolutely no comprehension of what resolution is. Look at the iphone going from 480x320 to 960x640. Did the icons get smaller? No I didn't think so. You simply put more pixels into an icon the same size. Because it seems you're under the impression that pixel count determines image size.

however, there is no need for a higher resolution because the display is that too small. better resolution would look like the same as the resolution looks on current phones.

I can see several reasons to be interested in higher screen resolution (but IMHO you will need at least a 3.5" display):
Games
ok, that's not for today, but with ports like the unreal engine on android, phones will become more like a mobile console (PSP phone, for example). A better resolution sounds like a better playing experience, but will still need more powerful hardware (and that's on the way with multi core SOC)
Video
isn't that obvious? and it's essential if you're watching videos with subtitles
Internet
I don't know for you, but on my 800x480 handset, i have to zoom out to have the full page, and zoom in, etc...
With a better screen resolution, the navigation will be easier
It's not interesting for everybody, but I think clivo360 and I are not the only guys looking for a higher resolution screen

Although 4.3" is probably the upper limit for what you'd consider "pocketable", I'd still be attracted to bigger screens and more powerful phones because there are things that can take advantage of them, such as video. Imagine 1080p screens on a phone!
At some point though, phones are probably going to suffer the same problem that PCs did - that hardware outdoes all user needs. Imagine a point where the hardware has reached such a point where for the average user, they don't need the most potent phone anymore. We're already well on the way there. It happened with PCs, where the average user needs office software such as word processing, a spreadsheet, and the Internet, but nothing that demands crazy hardware (the average user is not a high end gamer we're talking here).

A better resolution makes even more difference on an SAMOLED screen compared to an LCD/SLCD - due to the PenTile matrix configuration of pixels a 800x480 SAMOLED screen doesn't really have as many pixels as an 800x480 standard LCD.
Just take a close look at the screen of a Nexus One or Nexus S at some text and you'll see it's slightly fuzzy. See here for more info
Better resolutions aren't available yet because a) it's a relatively new technology and b) manufacturers are having a hard enough time making enough just to cover the existing devices that use them.
AFAIK, there is only one Android device with a larger screen resolution that, as long as you don't live in the good old US of A (and even there it can be done), can make calls: the Samsung Galaxy Tab. But not exactly small enough to fit in your trouser pocket (although it does slip easily into a jacket pocket).
PS: The Tab is fantastic for video (1080p MKV supported), games and general browsing (with plugins set to on-demand) plus the odd short book, although you do look very strange if you answer calls on it without a BT headset (very Trigger Happy).

Ugh, I won't flame people saying we don't need higher resolution, though I wanted to...
Here is one basic application where the higher resolution really does make a difference: Reading text .PDFs.
I tried reading PDFs on my 800 x 480 Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S) and I wish the text was a little smoother. Sure, I'd like a slightly larger screen (no more than 4.3") but if the screen was larger I'd be even more desperate for higher resolution. I'd like to see 1024 * 640 on a 4" Android.
Higher resolution does not nesc. need more battery/CPU power: it's the brightness that uses the battery most.

critofur said:
I tried reading PDFs on my 800 x 480 Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S) and I wish the text was a little smoother. Sure, I'd like a slightly larger screen (no more than 4.3") but if the screen was larger I'd be even more desperate for higher resolution. I'd like to see 1024 * 640 on a 4" Android.
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Doesn't your phone's AMOLED screen use the PenTile matrix? If so, that's a huge factor. I have 2 Droid Incredibles, one AMOLED w/PenTile matrix, the other SLCD. The SLCD has MUCH smoother text despite both being the same 480x800 resolution. AMOLED w/PenTile matrix has a "screen door effect".
Anyway, Toshiba might make your dream come true, and even exceed what you'd like to see.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/toshiba-enters-pixel-density-fray-with-367ppi-lcds-for-cellphone/

its true about the screen door effect. texting the g2x is very smooth dispite the resolution being the same as the vibrant.

Not sure I could put larger than 4.3" in my pocket