Rumor is around that HTC are prepping for an upgrade to HD2 with WinMo 7 .. http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=12268
I like amoled screen after seeing the Nexus One vs the HD2's but I would prefer it being the size of the HD2's. The screen on a phone that size is a gigantic plus of the HD2. I also like the 4gb internal memory and micro sd card feature.
Good looking phone. My hope is the HD2 can be upgraded to WM7 so I can have a honest choice when my wallet catches up to my desires.
The phone mentioned in that story is reported to have a 3.7" screen.
Since the HD2's biggest statement is its screen size, I would not call anything an upgraded HD2 if it has anything less than a 4.3" screen.
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I like amoled screen after seeing the Nexus One vs the HD2's but I would prefer it being the size of the HD2's. The screen on a phone that size is a gigantic plus of the HD2. I also like the 4gb internal memory and micro sd card feature.
Good looking phone. My hope is the HD2 can be upgraded to WM7 so I can have a honest choice when my wallet catches up to my desires.
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if Nexus one that size I would get it in a heartbeat!
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Since the HD2's biggest statement is is its screen size, I would not call anything an upgraded HD2 if it has anything less than a 4.3" screen.
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Anything less than 4.3 would be a downgrade!
I think a 3.7" display would be fine..I love my HD2, but if it was a touch smaller, I wouldn't grumble either!!
Yeah, not just because screen it´s not bigger you can´t call it an upgrade.
Personally I prefer a screen of 3.7"
They're releasing an HTC HD2 with a smaler screen but AMOLED and better drivers.
Wow.
Amazing like a broken PC... lol.
IMHO this isn't a better device only because it has got 512MB RAM.. the HTC HD2's 4.3" screen is simply the better thing never seen. If only it would be AMOLED.........
Anyway, I think that I'll stay with my HTC HD2 for more than a year if they're releasing devices like this as a successor.
The only good thing to have is WM7 on the HD2.
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IMHO this isn't a better device only because it has got 512MB RAM.. the HTC HD2's 4.3" screen is simply the better thing never seen. If only it would be AMOLED.........
Anyway, I think that I'll stay with my HTC HD2 for more than a year if they're releasing devices like this as a successor.
The only good thing to have is WM7 on the HD2.
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I read somewhere that the screen of HD2 is capable of displaying 16 million colors but is limited to 65K because of WM 6.5. If this is true, we should be able to get 'near Amoled' experience with HD2 running WinMo 7.
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I read somewhere that the screen of HD2 is capable of displaying 16 million colors but is limited to 65K because of WM 6.5. If this is true, we should be able to get 'near Amoled' experience with HD2 running WinMo 7.
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Hardly. You won't even get close to OLED black levels on the HD2 screen, nor will you get the kind of smoothness of motion and lack of blur/judder that an OLED display gives you, nor will you get the major battery-life-extending benefits of OLED.
Even if the HD2's display is theoretically capable of >65k colours, it quite possibly still can't do 24-bit colour - most phone LCD displays are only 18-bit.
On the other hand, thus far most OLED screens seem to deliberately over-saturate the colours. My HD2's white point is a bit pushed to blue, but otherwise the colours are quite accurate. OLED sunlight readability is also often poor (although it has to be said the HD2's is pretty bad because the screen is so glossy).
Heh, well, the AMOLED display saturation is somehow superior in some images and it's not good while exposet at sunlight, but the battery life of an AMOLED screen device is really, REALLY SUPERIOR, because AMOLED simply powers down the pixel if it is pure black and it consumes less power because it plays on the voltage/amperage of an AMOLED pixel for "colouring" it.
Anyway, I'm just happy with my HTC HD2 and with his pretty BIG screen.... we can only wait and see if WM7 will use 24bit colors with the HD2's screen!
...I think the battery (1230 mAh) is not enough for this specs.
the obsession is just another device from htc coming after hd2 doesnot mean it is an upgrade to hd2 if it was we would consider td2 as an upgrade to blackstone
and upgrade means huge different in specifications (like between hd1 and hd2 so the 64 mb more ram is not a really upgrade as they have the same processor running at 1gz )
cause its size i think its more diamond3 than hd3... looks like my next phone
this would be my next phone too....but..who knows when we will ever see it....at best it's still 9 months away!!!
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cause its size i think its more diamond3 than hd3... Looks like my next phone
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you are right it seems to be upgrade for diamond 2
Whatever devices come out next, I`m hoping they will have a TV out (or even HDMI).
It would be great, to have a mobile film player wherever we go ( for the kids of course), but also would not have to remote desktop using a tiny screen.
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you are right it seems to be upgrade for diamond 2
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It's being released awfully late if it's an upgrade to the TD2; the TD2 launched last April, but the Obsession isn't out till October - HTC doesn't usually leave that long between refreshes. And from a 3.2" screen to 3.7" is quite a jump, especially bearing in mind that the TD2 was positioned specifically as a smaller and lighter equivalent of the Touch HD and TP2.
Still, I agree that the consensus does seem to be that it's a Diamond 2 replacement (possibly originally intended to ship earlier but delayed by the late arrival of WM7).
Any news up on this? Waiting for snapdragon WM6.5 phone with no giant screen to replace my Diamond1.
looking at the thread i was just wondering is there anyone who loves small and sharp displays
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Just a random thought I had. I own a Fuze and I love the 480 x 640 resolution of the screen. If someone gave me a phone with anything less than a VGA resolution I think I would go crazy. I saw my old Mogul laying around and decided to turn it on to compare both screens. What a difference! So, do you think you (VGA owners) could ever go back to QVGA?
i did, sold my touch pro and used my vogue. it was a hella big difference at first but when you get used to it, you will barely notice the difference
the biggest place where i miss my vga screen is when im web browsing
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i did, sold my touch pro and used my vogue. it was a hella big difference at first but when you get used to it, you will barely notice the difference
the biggest place where i miss my vga screen is when im web browsing
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That sucks that you had to sell your TP. I can see how one would get used to the screen resolution again though, but for me it would be really hard.
I voted no, however I would have to agree with mike. For purely phone related tasks VGA is not necessary, however once you use the more "advanced" functionalities like web browsing, third party apps, VGA becomes quickly the minimum resolution, especially for web browsing.
VGA works great for me with my 3.5" 640 x 480 pixels, Just in 2008 devices started to make this screens and my Universal is from 2005!!
QVGA I really don´t like it
WVGA never used...
Awesome, that's sweet! palmares assurance vie
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Awesome, that's sweet!
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Welcome to the forum
May I know what is sweet?
It's def a big factor in choosing a phone, but sometime a qVGA phone is better. Like Omnia vs Diamond. Either way, I prefer my Storm's screen
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It's def a big factor in choosing a phone, but sometime a qVGA phone is better. Like Omnia vs Diamond. Either way, I prefer my Storm's screen
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I had no idea the Omnia was only QVGA. I figured it was such a well-rounded device and expected the VGA screen, but I guess not.
The Storm does have a beautiful screen though. I'll give you that. I'm really starting to regret getting rid of the Storm...
I can't have less than my Fuze's VGA screen. WVGA or higher is next for me!
BTW, what is the name for screens with res 360 x 640, like the Omnia HD and Idou. I googled it but no go . . . it may be "qHD" though?
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BTW, what is the name for screens with res 360 x 640, like the Omnia HD and Idou. I googled it but no go . . . it may be "qHD" though?
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qHD sounds good, but I doubt that's the name for it. Actually (and I could be completely wrong) I think 360 x 640 is still considered VGA. I think that maybe once it gets to a certain amount of pixels it would change up to the next level. I don't think I know what I'm talking about.
I had my HD, and i thought that all WM devices look like this until my brother got an Omnia, and i thought something was wrong with the device. Thats until i found the difference was WQVGA and WVGA.
BIG difference in quality, so no it will be hard to go from VGA to QVGA, but you will get used to it.
I've got the Blackstone, and briefly had the Omnia in my hand.
Returning to QVGA is pretty much impossible after you've got used to >= VGA.
However, the difference is not the screen real estate, but the DPI. Once you get used to a higher definition screen, it's horrible to go back to the ill defined QVGA screens. However, a small VGA screen still looks great, but a physically large QVGA screen looks even more hideous! (I recently had reason to pull out my IPAQ, the original ancestor to modern Windows Mobile devices, and was surprised to see that the screen was bigger than the Blackstone, but no where as well defined).
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MY Diamond screen cracked and my insurance company said they could not replace it, so offered me a £350 cheque. as I was due an upgrade in 3 months (1 month to go) I took their cash and banked it decideding to go back to my old artemis for a few months.
Whilst VGA is sooo much better, you can survive with QVGA. However I am happy with it because I know it is temporary till mid june (ish) when I get a TD2
Hello,
I'm seriously doubting what phone i should buy, and therefore i want to ask if any of you have some advantages or disadvantages and some things that are just for taste so i can get a good idea of what the advantages and disadvantages are of the phones and just the things people like or hate about it?
My main points are ofcourse The android versions and the speed of the phones and if they are strong devices so if they don't break easily.
Thnx in advance!
The X10 is the weakest of the three handsets you've listed.
It's only a 65k LCD screen and it has no multi-touch.
Obviously, a part of that is due to the version of Android it's running but it's unclear whether any of that will improve when (or indeed, given it's Sony Ericsson we're talking about, if) they get round releasing an upgrade.
Aside from that, as nice as the Timescape app is on the X10, it just doesn't match Sense on the Desire.
The only point the X10 has in it's favour is that it's an 8MP camera but in my first-hand experience it was very, very poor even in good light. SE have said they will be adding HD video recording by way of a software upgrade but that won't be until the end of the year at best (and, once again, this being SE there is a history of taking missing deadlines by months, almost years).
As for the Nexus One, personally I see no advantage ot it over the Desire but, equally, it's not really any worse either, so I suppose it's all down to price where you are.
Whichever one you go for, they're both that bit better than the SE.
It may also be worth considering the Samsung Galaxy S with it's 5MP HD video (but no flash!?!) camera, 1GHz 'Hummingbird' CPU and 4" WVGA superAMOLED screen (basically all the advantages of AMOLED but you can use it in sunlight).
That or the up-coming Motorola XT720 which will offer an 8MP HD recording camera with a proper Xenon flash as well as HDMI-out, along with a decent all-round spec inclduing a 720MHz OMAP 3430 CPU, 512MB of RAM and a 3.7" 480x854 multi-touch LCD screen.
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The X10 is the weakest of the three handsets you've listed.
It's only a 65k LCD screen and it has no multi-touch.
Obviously, a part of that is due to the version of Android it's running but it's unclear whether any of that will improve when (or indeed, given it's Sony Ericsson we're talking about, if) they get round releasing an upgrade.
Aside from that, as nice as the Timescape app is on the X10, it just doesn't match Sense on the Desire.
The only point the X10 has in it's favour is that it's an 8MP camera but in my first-hand experience it was very, very poor even in good light. SE have said they will be adding HD video recording by way of a software upgrade but that won't be until the end of the year at best (and, once again, this being SE there is a history of taking missing deadlines by months, almost years).
As for the Nexus One, personally I see no advantage ot it over the Desire but, equally, it's not really any worse either, so I suppose it's all down to price where you are.
Whichever one you go for, they're both that bit better than the SE.
It may also be worth considering the Samsung Galaxy S with it's 5MP HD video (but no flash!?!) camera, 1GHz 'Hummingbird' CPU and 4" WVGA superAMOLED screen (basically all the advantages of AMOLED but you can use it in sunlight).
That or the up-coming Motorola XT720 which will offer an 8MP HD recording camera with a proper Xenon flash as well as HDMI-out, along with a decent all-round spec inclduing a 720MHz OMAP 3430 CPU, 512MB of RAM and a 3.7" 480x854 multi-touch LCD screen.
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Thnx for your reply!
I will have a look at those phones you mentioned! I currently possess the HTC Touch HD (Hate WinMo) and i find the screen a bit to small but the touchkeys are really nice! So i'm looking for a phone that has quite a large screen like the Evo 4G with Android. I like the X10 because of the larger screen and Android but i'm already rethinking buying that device. Something like the HTC HD2 would be really nice only with android operating on it! Which seems to me would be the Evo 4G but i cannot buy that phone since i live in the netherlands.
Do you know some upcoming devices or devices out now that i might like?
Thnx for your help!
Right, well, the Touch HD has a 3.8" screen so if you want larger than rules out the Desire/Nexus One and the Motorola XT720 as they're all 3.7".
The Samsung I mentioned has a 4" screen, so it'll be a bit bigger than the Touch HD's but you're talking 5mm difference diagonally, which isn't exactly huge. That said, if you were considering the X10 then the Galaxy S is the same size of screen.
Other than that, there's the Dell Streak but it's a 5" screen so it's a whole order of magnitude larger than the likes of the HD2/Evo 4G.
Moving on from phones that are already or about to go on sale, there's the on-going rumours of the Motorola Shadow/Droid Xtreme which is supposed to have a screen between 4.1 and 4.3" but it's very much a rumour and if it's anything like the last Droid, it'll be released in the US first and the rest of the world a fair while later.
And you won't even be able to buy it from the US to get it sooner because it's almost guaranteed that it'll be a CDMA handset on Verizon.
Looking at the handsets that GSMArena lists as running Android and having a screen larger than 4", apart from the ones I've mentioned there's the leaked Dell Thunder which will be a 4.1" but there's no confirmation of when or where it's going on sale; the Samsung 7" tablet which isn't really designed to be a phone at all; and some handset from a brand called 'i-mobile' that I've never even heard of.
What is your prefered screen size?
In my opinion 3.8 is perfect. I like 3.7 but the problem is that it is not as wide as the 3.5 screens on the garminphone, iphone, huwai ascend, and that's the only thing I don't like about 3.7 screens and the new motorolla cliq too its ridiculously long and thin, I did a side to side comparisom and it is less wider than the 3.7 inch screen on my G2 but a little bit longer. It was a dissappointment the cliq 2 of course why would they make the screen less wide that makes no sense to me anybody else feels like this about 3.7 screens?
The 3.8 on the mytouch 4G is wider than the 3.5 screens we know on the phones I mention and I like that. Btw I think they could've squeezed a 3.8 on the G2 at the size it is, that's one of the things I love about the G2, the size overall is nice.
3.7". I don't really feel like the 3.5" on my iPhone is any wider than the 3.7", but I never measured. I know 3.7" phones themselves are usually the same width as the iPhone.
something between 3.7 minimum to 4.3 max
3.7" is the best size for me (at least from what I tried, it depends on the size of your hand, I don't realy own a touchscreen device currently, tried friends').
The width of the screen is affected by the ratio, there are wide screens, 4:3 screens etc.
Depends on resolution.
4.5" , but 4.3" is minimum , anything else is unmanly and is a toy phone
3.7" is good -- i find much bigger than that ends up being too big for a phone..
4 inches is definitely the minimum; I have tried an iphone but it just isn't the same.
Captivate 2.2.1 Paragon
4-7inch anything under 4inch is unmanly and just a joke
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3.7". I don't really feel like the 3.5" on my iPhone is any wider than the 3.7", but I never measured. I know 3.7" phones themselves are usually the same width as the iPhone.
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I measured them, the iphone and huwai ascend, screen is 1.94 inch wide, the 3.7 on the G2 is 1.90 wide, also I notice the cliq 2 screen is longer and less wide than the G2 screen being the same size. I prefer wider screen than longer, don't get me wrong I'm good with the 3.7 inch its not that big of a deal
i think the sgs has the right dimensions of a display
I love the 4. 3 maybe bigger.
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I think I would like a 5 inch screen. A little big but, I think it would be good for me.
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I've tried a few, and I think 4 is the best for me. Anything too much bigger starts to get clunky.
Minimum 4. Max 4.5. Depends on the overall design. Extremely thin bezel? Fine, give me 4.5
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4.3" in minimum, would love to see some new HTC phones with bigger screen, perhaps in the 5" area.
4" is perfect for me, but i have smallish hands. I'm happy with the 3.7" i currently have though.
What worries me is that all the top end phones are coming out with 4.3" screens now, meaning i'll have no choice but to go bigger in future
Do you guys with bigger screens have any trouble with them fitting in your trouser pockets? Is it comfortable?
I like the 4" screens on the Captivate and stuff, but even a GOOD 3.5" like on the iPhone 4 is a great screen, and likewise, the 4.3" and 4.5" screen are tempting. I do think once you go above 4" it's harder to keep a phone from being a big ugly brick (think Droid X) but I'm looking forward to seeing what Samsung does with the 4.5" Super AMOLED Plus. That promises to be a nice screen - none of the PenTile checker boarding, really thin, Samsung's great at design. Too bad they're so bad at the updates thing...
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4.3" in minimum, would love to see some new HTC phones with bigger screen, perhaps in the 5" area.
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Damn! homie just get a tablet lmao jk
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4" is perfect for me, but i have smallish hands. I'm happy with the 3.7" i currently have though.
What worries me is that all the top end phones are coming out with 4.3" screens now, meaning i'll have no choice but to go bigger in future
Do you guys with bigger screens have any trouble with them fitting in your trouser pockets? Is it comfortable?
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trust me I doubt most phones would come out 4.3, it seems 3.7-4" its getting to be the rule now most phones launching are withing that range I doubt the new sidekick will be anything bigger than 3.7 lol some sidekick feens are actually I would say dreaming about the sidekick having a 4.3" screen imagine a screen that big flipping how big the phone gonna be lol. And the samsung 4G as we already know is 4". I also think 4 is nice but they have to do it like they did it with the motorolla defy waterproof the phone is incredibly small much smaller than the G2 with a nice 3.7 screen. I think they could've squeezed in a 3.8 in the G2 and could've made it smaller. I mean just look at the garminphone it is ridiculously and unnecesarily huge for a 3.5 screen. Just the front is about 55% screen and 45% buttons.
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Guys look at this.
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http://www.infosyncworld.com/review...-3d-smartphone-coming-soon-to-at&t/12027.html
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HTC HOLIDAY
Guys look at this.
http://www.talkandroid.com/41135-htc-holiday-lead-atts-new-lte-phones/
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The holiday looks like a good one, but since it's LTE, can't imagine it'll be coming to the shores of Europe 4.5 screen would be ideal
wait and see
We had to wait and see, if not better to ordered it directly expansys.com or over the net. dualcore and 4.5 inch its a MUST.
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We had to wait and see, if not better to ordered it directly expansys.com or over the net. dualcore and 4.5 inch its a MUST.
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That device is going to be pretty big.
EDIT: Also a 4.5" qHD screen? I wonder how this will compare to a 4.3" WVGA screen in surface area. I haven't done the calculations on this one but I did between 4.3" qHD and WVGA screens and a 4.3" WVGA screen has a noticeably larger surface area than a 4.3" qHD screen.
General question...does 0.2" actually make a difference???
The question is why not 687.3" screen? At some point it becomes ridiculous always increase screen size.
There's also the question of WHEN it's coming. Something better is always in the pipeline, but how long are you willing to wait for said advances? I was willing to wait for dual-core as it's a big jump in capabilities. 0.2" is not really (I would like the 1GB of RAM but I do need a phone now and can't wait too much more).
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There's also the question of WHEN it's coming. Something better is always in the pipeline, but how long are you willing to wait for said advances? I was willing to wait for dual-core as it's a big jump in capabilities. 0.2" is not really (I would like the 1GB of RAM but I do need a phone now and can't wait too much more).
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I'd say that getting this generation of phone is good. SO the Sensation and GSII will last you for quite a long time. But if you really want, next year, the EPIC resolutions will be integrated into phones + AMOLED - that sort of thing.
Hit a brick wall in terms of size, any bigger than 4.5" and it's becoming a tablet (not complaining, I'd certainly use a 5" phone as my everyday device) but for many, 4.3" is too big, let alone bigger.
The Holisay looks like a beast. 3D too? Amazing.
Rumor is a September release. If it's on AT&T IMO it won't show up until after the new iPhone does. Don't want to wreck the hype.
Does anyone know if some compact WP7 phones have been announced or are coming? An HD7 Mini like HTC did with the HD2 and HD Mini, for example? Thanks!
How about HTC Trophy? Only 3.8" of screen.
Acer W4 with 3,6" screen though it's not available yet: http: / / wmpoweruser . com/acer-w4-windows-phone-specs-detailed/ (delete 'spaces')
Isn't the point of an advanced OS like WP7 to have a rich visual experience. A small screen kind of defeates the purpose. Why don't you try WM6.5 instead. It is a cool OS, and great for small screens.
I got an HD Mini already
3.6 is not a bad size, but I was thinking about not more than 3.5. It's just a curiosoity since I'm extremely happy with my Mini, but I'm falling in love with WP7 and all the available devices are too big compared
Size is mostly personal preference. But right now, 4.3" seems to be what everyone is loving. So majority of new phones out there are towards this size. I liked Samsung's 4" screen size. Perfect comprise between size and usability.
Yeah I know the trend is to make them bigger and bigger and I'm in the minority group who thinks 4" is more like a tablet but since they did it with the HD2/Mini, I was hoping they would do it with the HD7 again...
Anyway, we'll see how they evolve, I'm planing to stick to my Mini for a long time
Minority means low demand and low sales. No one really wants to release a phone that can't make money on. I think given time, the trend will move back to smaller size. Last year, most Samsung smart phones are 4" screen. This year, all 4.3" and 4.5" screens, no more 4" screens.
The 4" screen Samsung phones are actually no bigger than iPhone 4. They are ok size wise.
Try the HTC 7 Mozart with its 3.7" screen. it's very nice to hold. I went for the HD7 in the end.
HTC Arrive is out with a 3.6
Thanks for the replies guys, seems like HTC has not forgotten to keep making more compact phones then
Large screens ftw
The LG Quantum has a 3.5" screen but with the slideout qwerty its a little thicker...
As for big screens, my HD2 owned... Especially with WP7 flashed on it, but I got sick of always having to use 2 hands... I missed simple single handed phone operation...