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I look at some forums on how to do it and I'm pretty positive I can do it. But what exactly are the risks?
Is there a chance of brick?
Will I lose data?
Is it even a necessary upgrade?
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Yes, there is a chance for a brick but that is rather minimal. It's the same risk that you take each time you use ODIN one click to return to stock.
Before you flash be sure to do a backup using TiBu for your apps and I use "export to external SD card" for my contacts.
Necessary upgrade? That is all up to you to decide. I did it because I wanted something new.
McKillroy11 said:
I look at some forums on how to do it and I'm pretty positive I can do it. But what exactly are the risks?
Is there a chance of brick?
Will I lose data?
Is it even a necessary upgrade?
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1.Of coarse there is a chance of a brick. Anytime you flash your device there is a potential of something going wrong. Doesn't happen that often, but it does happen. Luckily, we have lots of ways of getting out of a jam.
2.You shouldn't lose any data if you back up properly. If you need to use a computer and manually drag your pictures and music or whatever to a safe spot, or like the user above me use TiBu and make a backup of your apps and data and stuff.
3.It is not a necessary upgrade, but it is indeed exactly that.. an "upgrade"
I'm not gonna talk up which gingerbread ROMs I like, but I will say i cannot go back to froyo. The smooth, lag-free experience i have had with gingerbread has been more than pleasant.
But as always read the OP and instructions...and of coarse re-read just to be sure.
Like Nike, just do it.
Coreym said:
1.Of coarse there is a chance of a brick. Anytime you flash your device there is a potential of something going wrong. Doesn't happen that often, but it does happen. Luckily, we have lots of ways of getting out of a jam.
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1. Is not true. You DON'T risk bricking EVERYTIME you flash ANYTHING. The only time you risk a brick (and I mean brick as in not a thing coming out of the phone, nothing not one little sign of life at all. Nothing. Anything other than that is NOT a brick) is when you are flashing bootloaders, but if you are not flashing bootloaders, which most of the time you aren't you can not brick the worst that can happen is a situation that is commonly (and stupidly) called a "soft brick" that's just when something is broken and it can't boot all the way to a functioning OS, but again that example isn't a brick at all because it's 99.9% of the time recoverable.
OP you are flashing bootloaders so in this case there is a small risk of a brick. But like was said it's the exact same risk as odin one click.
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1. Is not true. You DON'T risk bricking EVERYTIME you flash ANYTHING. The only time you risk a brick (and I mean brick as in not a damn thing coming out of the phone, nothing not one little sign of life at all. Nothing. Anything other than that is NOT a brick) is when you are flashing bootloaders, but if you are not flashing bootloaders, which most of the time you aren't you can not brick the worst that can happen is a situation that is commonly (and stupidly) called a "soft brick" that's just when something is broken and it can't boot all the way to a functioning OS, but again that example isn't a brick at all because it's 99.9% of the time recoverable.
OP you are flashing bootloaders so in this case there is a small risk of a brick. But like was said it's the exact same risk as odin one click.
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I didn't mean to be so critical .. I more meant to say what I said in my second sentence about something COULD go wrong but thanks for explaining it better for the OP
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Even if you do brick it's nothing to freak out about. 9 times out of 10 just putting the phone into download mode and using Odin again does the trick. Even if you need to build/buy a jig, the chances that it's so bricked that you'd need to JTAG it or send it in are ridiculously small.
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Even if you do brick it's nothing to freak out about. 9 times out of 10 just putting the phone into download mode and using Odin again does the trick. Even if you need to build/buy a jig, the chances that it's so bricked that you'd need to JTAG it or send it in are ridiculously small.
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See it's this kind of stuff I'm talking about. This loose use of the term brick.
If you can recover it by any means other than jtag it's not a brick. There are no different degrees of bricking, if it's bricked it doesn't do a anything. Not a single solitary bit of computing, it just sits there doing nothing no matter what. Dead. A corpse.
It's either bricked or not. Just because the kernel/rom is broken and it doesn't boot properly does not mean it's bricked at all. If the bootloaders are intact and it tries to boot but fails at the kernel/rom level that is easily fixed. Throwing the term brick around in that situation, even when you add the retarded "soft brick" modifier, will just scare the poop out of a noob who just needs to remain calm and take the proper steps to have a working phone.
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See it's this kind of stuff I'm talking about. This loose use of the term brick.
If you can recover it by any means other than jtag it's not a brick. There are no different degrees of bricking, if it's bricked it doesn't do a damn thing. Not a single solitary bit of computing, it just sits there doing nothing no matter what. Dead. A corpse.
It's either bricked or not. Just because the kernel/rom is broken and it doesn't boot properly does not mean it's bricked at all. If the bootloaders are intact and it tries to boot but fails at the kernel/rom level that is easily fixed. Throwing the term brick around in that situation, even when you add the retarded "soft brick" modifier, will just scare the **** out of a noob who just needs to remain calm and take the proper steps to have a working phone.
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I hear ya and totally agree. But you do realize not that long ago, A LOT of people referred to the phone-!-computer screen as being "bricked". We know now that we are pretty far off from having an actual "bricked" phone in a lot of situations. But even the devs used to refer to that as a bricked device. Just gonna take some time for everyone to figure it out.
For me I went on YouTube and found joshs' video on how to flash continuum. It was very helpful and gave me the main idea of how the process is
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I hear ya and totally agree. But you do realize not that long ago, A LOT of people referred to the phone-!-computer screen as being "bricked". We know now that we are pretty far off from having an actual "bricked" phone in a lot of situations. But even the devs used to refer to that as a bricked device. Just gonna take some time for everyone to figure it out.
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Which is why I'm trying to nip that in the bud from now on, or actually about a month ago when I coined the phrase, "soft bricked" is now called "clayed" because there is no such thing as a soft brick in the real world or the phone world, if a brick is soft it hasn't been baked yet in the kiln so it's still just clay, but it works in phone terms too if you have a brick you can't mold it or change anything about it, it's a brick. With clay it's still moldable and able to be worked with.
And the phone....!....pc seen just means a flash was incomplete. flashing anything successfully, even a modem, will get rid of that screen.
Granted if the kernel/rom is still incomplete it won't boot completely and be working, it'll just be "clayed" in a bootloop. So a complete odin rom is probably needed to have a working phone, but like I said flashing anything successfully will at least get rid of that screen.
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For me I went on YouTube and found joshs' video on how to flash continuum. It was very helpful and gave me the main idea of how the process is
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You got that URL for the YouTube video?
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You got that URL for the YouTube video?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOyx5JQ_8_I
in the video he uses talon kernel, i wouldnt suggest that because now most roms are not based on jvb which that talon is, so if yoou fallow the steps with that kernel and flash a jvh based rom it will bootloop, i suggest a kernel in this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042543
if its a jvh rom grab this one:I9000_reoriented_vG.1.2_novoo.tar
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Which is why I'm trying to nip that in the bud from now on, or actually about a month ago when I coined the phrase, "soft bricked" is now called "clayed" because there is no such thing as a soft brick in the real world or the phone world, if a brick is soft it hasn't been baked yet in the kiln so it's still just clay, but it works in phone terms too if you have a brick you can't mold it or change anything about it, it's a brick. With clay it's still moldable and able to be worked with.
And the phone....!....pc seen just means a flash was incomplete. flashing anything successfully, even a modem, will get rid of that screen.
Granted if the kernel/rom is still incomplete it won't boot completely and be working, it'll just be "clayed" in a bootloop. So a complete odin rom is probably needed to have a working phone, but like I said flashing anything successfully will at least get rid of that screen.
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"clayed"... I like it.. It makes a lot more sense than "soft-bricked" I myself will start to use that phrase thanks!
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See it's this kind of stuff I'm talking about. This loose use of the term brick.
If you can recover it by any means other than jtag it's not a brick. There are no different degrees of bricking, if it's bricked it doesn't do a damn thing. Not a single solitary bit of computing, it just sits there doing nothing no matter what. Dead. A corpse.
It's either bricked or not. Just because the kernel/rom is broken and it doesn't boot properly does not mean it's bricked at all. If the bootloaders are intact and it tries to boot but fails at the kernel/rom level that is easily fixed. Throwing the term brick around in that situation, even when you add the retarded "soft brick" modifier, will just scare the **** out of a noob who just needs to remain calm and take the proper steps to have a working phone.
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I agree, but it's a term that everybody uses. Sort of like how a ton of metal music is called "hardcore", even when it's not hardcore. Etc. I guess I just assumed that when I gave different conditions for each degree of "brick"(or clay, whatever the terminology), a noob or otherwise inexperienced person could distinguish the difference rather than see "brick" and freak out.
I dunno, I've "bricked" my phone to the point of requiring a jig before, it's super easy and nothing to get freaked out about. If anything, it's a wonderful learning experience, which is something people should be expecting when they do this sort of stuff anyways. It isn't an iPhone.
I watched the video and I don't know how to downgrade to 2.1. Also will I need to re-root my phone after going to gingerbread or the downgrade?
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I agree, but it's a term that everybody uses. Sort of like how a ton of metal music is called "hardcore", even when it's not hardcore. Etc. I guess I just assumed that when I gave different conditions for each degree of "brick"(or clay, whatever the terminology), a noob or otherwise inexperienced person could distinguish the difference rather than see "brick" and freak out.
I dunno, I've "bricked" my phone to the point of requiring a jig before, it's super easy and nothing to get freaked out about. If anything, it's a wonderful learning experience, which is something people should be expecting when they do this sort of stuff anyways. It isn't an iPhone.
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ive done it on purpose out of curiosity and wanting to see for myself, like i mentioned earlier the phone...!....pc just means a flash was marked incomplete so a fun learning experience: Flash a kernel with odin and yank the chord halfway through the flash. you might get a screen with a pretty color followed by the phone....!.....pc screen. now flash a modem with odin and let that finish like normal, the phone...!...pc screen will no longer be there, it will still be clayed because the kernel is broken, but it wont have that screen anymore. then flash the kernel like normal and it will be fixed likje nothing ever happened. this has no risk of bricking whatsoever because there are no bootloaders involved in the flash.
ive never had to use the jig i built my button combos have always worked, i still built one cause its super easy and handy to have if i ever need it but i just never have
McKillroy11 said:
I watched the video and I don't know how to downgrade to 2.1. Also will I need to re-root my phone after going to gingerbread or the downgrade?
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if you are flashing a custom rom and not staying on stock gingerbread then it will already be rooted.
to return to stock everything (stock bootloaders also) use odin one click. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
to return to a stock rom but still retain the gingerbread bootloaders use this package http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995143
both of those methods of returning to stock would be an out of the box unrooted stock rom.
McKillroy11 said:
I watched the video and I don't know how to downgrade to 2.1. Also will I need to re-root my phone after going to gingerbread or the downgrade?
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Use odin3 oneclick downloader. That will put you back at stock 2.1
Here it is. But if you don't know how to use it. You should really learn it.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SBSMALFJ
here's a vid for Odin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDtxnH4lFuk
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studacris said:
Which is why I'm trying to nip that in the bud from now on, or actually about a month ago when I coined the phrase, "soft bricked" is now called "clayed" because there is no such thing as a soft brick in the real world or the phone world
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I agree the term "brick" is thrown around too liberally, but I was under the impression that a "soft brick" was a SOFTware problem, and a "hard brick" was a HARDware problem. I guess I was mistaken, since "hard bricks" can still be the result of software issues. (right?)
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I agree the term "brick" is thrown around too liberally, but I was under the impression that a "soft brick" was a SOFTware problem, and a "hard brick" was a HARDware problem. I guess I was mistaken, since "hard bricks" can still be the result of software issues. (right?)
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A hard brick occurs when the bootloaders are written improperly or gingerbread and froyo bootloaders are mixed. Completely software. If the bootloaders can't load the boot sequence you get absolutly nothing from it.
You can still recover from a hard brick with jtag, if it was a hardware problem like severe water damage there is no coming back from that at all. So I guess that's just called a broken phone.
First off, I am not unhappy with my Skyrocket in general. To be fair I only purchased it because my Nexus One broke and needed a new phone, but it's been exhibiting some very annoying things that I can't tell are "common" with this phone or if they're specific to my own model. Full disclosure, I have rooted and installed different ROMS on my phone, but many of these issues have existed since before I made all the modifications. I don't know if they're because of a bad battery, bad phone, or a bit of both.
1. Battery life is ATROCIOUS. Yes I know this is not that uncommon, but considering I'm not using LTE (because AT&T thinks Puerto Rico is more important than providing service to an actual STATE that is one of the most prolific in the nation) and I don't have a lot of background processes grabbing data. I mainly use my phone during the week to check facebook and twitter and such, but in about 8 hours I can be down to 20% power. I don't recall my battery life being that bad with my N1.
2. Sometimes I'll turn on my phone and it can't contact the AT&T network. I'll have to reboot, sometimes requiring that I do a battery pull. Speaking of battery pulls..
3. Sometimes when I leave my phone to charge overnight and then disconnect the charger, the 100% message does not come up, nor does the phone turn on. Once again, another battery pull. Also, more often than not the phone isn't actually fully charged.
Anyone else experiencing this? What would you all suggest? Should I go to AT&T and demand a replacement (obviously after I restore back to stock features and possibly run the counter wipe) or just get a new battery (which I think that AT&T should pay for) or just suck it up and deal with it?
Actually talk to at&t they might send a replacement battery for free
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Yea something isn't right with your phone. Sorry you had to go through all that.
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Yeah, sounds like a defective battery or device. Might as well go for the new device.
Go back to stock. Reset flash counter. Get real pissy at the store and demand a replacement. Get a replacement phone.
Stupid question: How do i reset the flash counter? I mean I know there's a file out there that does it, but do I go into recovery and just do "install from Zip file?" Also, will doing the return to Stock also remove my CWM recovery?
Just flash the zip in cwm. You'll still have cwm after but your count will be NO.
Then Odin back to stock using the Samsung UCKJ2 tar (not the one in the soft brick thread). For me, sometimes going into download mode using the two button combo trips the counter again, sometimes not. Using a jig to get into dl mode will prevent tripping it (Google how to make your own--its really easy)
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i went from the Nexus One as well. As for the general Android experience i really miss my Nexus One, but over all the dual-core cpu, expanded memory and bigger screen is enough of a reason to stick with it. I'm just patiently waiting for CM9 to come out. I'm not a big fan of Manufacturer's bloated UI's.
Fellow nexus users have you installed texasice just to taste aosp ics it's built from evervolv and runs great on the n1..... I kinda miss my track ball too but i do love the screen and speed of the lte network and the processor
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Just flash the zip in cwm. You'll still have cwm after but your count will be NO.
Then Odin back to stock using the Samsung UCKJ2 tar (not the one in the soft brick thread). For me, sometimes going into download mode using the two button combo trips the counter again, sometimes not. Using a jig to get into dl mode will prevent tripping it (Google how to make your own--its really easy)
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Where can I get that? I looked around and it seems to be at SamMobile.com, but it says I need to register to get the file. Is it somewhere else on here? Why shouldn't I use the one from the softbrick thread?
dvandam said:
Where can I get that? I looked around and it seems to be at SamMobile.com, but it says I need to register to get the file. Is it somewhere else on here? Why shouldn't I use the one from the softbrick thread?
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The one in the soft brick thread doesn't flash the modem (not sure about the kernel, but maybe not). I'll post a link in a few when I get back to my desk
EDIT: This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349207&highlight=uckj2
Once you download the file you'll need to unzip it. It'll ask for a password, enter sampro.pl . Once it's unzipped, open Odin (right click and click "Run as Administrator"). In the PDA slot place the file called HOME_SGS-I727user_CL626051.REV02.tar.md5 . Put into download mode and connect phone. Make sure Odin sees your phone (yellow COM box). Make sure nothing is checked other than Auto Reboot (DO NOT CLICK RE-PARTITION OR YOU WILL BRICK). Click Start and let it do it's thing.
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The one in the soft brick thread doesn't flash the modem (not sure about the kernel, but maybe not). I'll post a link in a few when I get back to my desk
EDIT: This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349207&highlight=uckj2
Once you download the file you'll need to unzip it. It'll ask for a password, enter sampro.pl . Once it's unzipped, open Odin (right click and click "Run as Administrator"). In the PDA slot place the file called HOME_SGS-I727user_CL626051.REV02.tar.md5 . Put into download mode and connect phone. Make sure Odin sees your phone (yellow COM box). Make sure nothing is checked other than Auto Reboot (DO NOT CLICK RE-PARTITION OR YOU WILL BRICK). Click Start and let it do it's thing.
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Thanks for the info.
So basically I go and get the counter reset here first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1575712
Then I go do the Odin thing to send the phone back to it's not as cool state? Out of curiosity after I do the flash back, how can I check the flash counter?
dvandam said:
Thanks for the info.
So basically I go and get the counter reset here first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1575712
Then I go do the Odin thing to send the phone back to it's not as cool state? Out of curiosity after I do the flash back, how can I check the flash counter?
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Yes, first do the counter reset, then Odin back to stock. After you flash back to stock you can check the flash counter by going into download mod. You don't need to have Odin open on your computer, just have the USB plugged in to your pc, and after pulling the battery and reinserting it, hold down the volume up+down keys as you plug in the USB. You'll get the yellow warning but click up. It should say:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SGH-I727
CUSTOM BINARY: NO
CURRENT BINARY: SAMSUNG OFFICIAL
Before you send it back you'll want to go into Settings/About Phone and make sure your baseband is UCKJ2, with the original kernel version (2.6.35.11). Lastly, go into Settings/Security and do a Factory Data Reset (check Format USB Storage to wipe out everything you have on there). Reboot and make sure you get the initial setup screen.
I'll try this all soon and head back to the AT&T store this weekend after I take a double shot of tequila so my inhibitions go down so I won't take any guff (but hopefully won't get me to Mel Gibson levels..)
I have a weird question: If I did a Nandroid/CWM backup and then did the Odin thing, what would happen if I rooted then reinstalled CWM and then did a restore? Would my phone go back to what it was or does it not work that way?
On a COMPLETELY unrelated topic I found this to be amusing from Gizmodo..
http://gizmodo.com/5903436/this-is-objectively-the-worst-default-email-signature
dvandam said:
I'll try this all soon and head back to the AT&T store this weekend after I take a double shot of tequila so my inhibitions go down so I won't take any guff (but hopefully won't get me to Mel Gibson levels..)
I have a weird question: If I did a Nandroid/CWM backup and then did the Odin thing, what would happen if I rooted then reinstalled CWM and then did a restore? Would my phone go back to what it was or does it not work that way?
On a COMPLETELY unrelated topic I found this to be amusing from Gizmodo..
http://gizmodo.com/5903436/this-is-objectively-the-worst-default-email-signature
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Nandroid backups tend to be a little buggy and you might find weird things happening (or you could brick altogether--not likely but possible).
I'd recommend using Titanium Backup to back up all your apps, and then backing up the Titanium folder, along with any pictures, music, etc. you want to keep to a desktop computer.
You're better off getting off to a fresh start with a new device and not introducing any bugs that may have been leftover on your Nandroid backup (including potential bugs that may be related to the problems you're having).
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Nandroid backups tend to be a little buggy and you might find weird things happening (or you could brick altogether--not likely but possible).
I'd recommend using Titanium Backup to back up all your apps, and then backing up the Titanium folder, along with any pictures, music, etc. you want to keep to a desktop computer.
You're better off getting off to a fresh start with a new device and not introducing any bugs that may have been leftover on your Nandroid backup (including potential bugs that may be related to the problems you're having).
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That was my original plan. Just thought it would be nice to bypass a few steps if I could.
Also, I lol'd at that article man! I don't use the stock email app so I hadn't run into this.
It is a phone worth bragging about having, but imo any signature block with two trademark symbols in it is going a little overboard.
Out of curiosity do you know how long this is supposed to take? It seems like it's been on <ID:0/003> system.img.ext4 for an uncomfortably long amount of time..
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1. Battery life is ATROCIOUS. Yes I know this is not that uncommon, but considering I'm not using LTE (because AT&T thinks Puerto Rico is more important than providing service to an actual STATE that is one of the most prolific in the nation) and I don't have a lot of background processes grabbing data. I mainly use my phone during the week to check facebook and twitter and such, but in about 8 hours I can be down to 20% power. I don't recall my battery life being that bad with my N1.
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What's wrong with puerto pico? My girlfriend is puerto rican and she's gorgeous. hahaha
Anyway this happened with my T989, swap it!!! Or use warranty with Samsung if you must.
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Out of curiosity do you know how long this is supposed to take? It seems like it's been on <ID:0/003> system.img.ext4 for an uncomfortably long amount of time..
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Took a long time last time I did it.
Still stuck there?
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Took a long time last time I did it.
Still stuck there?
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I ended up going against all conventional wisdom and turned off the phone. Now it's giving me the Yellow Triangle but I re-started ODIN and re-ran the process and now it's running at a more acceptable pace. I Don't know if it'll work, but now it's on amss.bin as opposed to being stuck on that section for like 30 minutes.
Of course now it's taking an excessive amount of time on the amss.bin step... I knew I should have started this earlier in the night (and with less drinks in my system..) It also says "MODEM" on the top left white box..
*Sorry if this has been already asked, I just want to confirm everything for my exact make and provider.
Hello XDA Forums, long time lurker, and about time I started contributing to the community.:good:
Anyway, I received my Galaxy S3 via VZW preorder a few weeks ago. It ran like a charm. However, as of today, the messenger app keeps crashing, and no longer responds/works. The question of whether or not it was because I rooted it caused the problem is irrelevant, but I digress...
I called Verizon about the problem and they are sending me a replacement in overnight shipping, and as of now they don't know it's rooted.
Whenever i boot the phone it has the custom symbol with the lock on it, will that mean my warranty will be voided and I will have to pay for the full price? Although I ordered overnight shipping it won't be shipped for another 2 days due to the fact that tomorrow is sunday. It is still rooted ATM. Thanks in advance guys! Hope to be a long-time active member here.
You need to Odin back to stock. Also before doing that make sure that your flash counter in download mode is at 0 and not at custom stuff. If it is use triangle away app v 1.7 to get rid of the flash count. THEN Odin back to stock.
Yes, if you send it back rooted they will void it.
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You need to Odin back to stock. Also before doing that make sure that your flash counter in download mode is at 0 and not at custom stuff. If it is use triangle away app v 1.7 to get rid of the flash count. THEN Odin back to stock.
Yes, if you send it back rooted they will void it.
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Ok, can you link me to a tutorial on how to do so? Thanks.
GalaxyS3IsMeh said:
Ok, can you link me to a tutorial on how to do so? Thanks.
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The tutorial is what they posted.
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Well for example how would you check the flash count?
Dudenell said:
Well for example how would you check the flash count?
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The flash counter appears in the download screen. Press and hold power, vol down, and home button until boot.
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Don't worry
GalaxyS3IsMeh said:
*Sorry if this has been already asked, I just want to confirm everything for my exact make and provider.
Hello XDA Forums, long time lurker, and about time I started contributing to the community.:good:
Anyway, I received my Galaxy S3 via VZW preorder a few weeks ago. It ran like a charm. However, as of today, the messenger app keeps crashing, and no longer responds/works. The question of whether or not it was because I rooted it caused the problem is irrelevant, but I digress...
I called Verizon about the problem and they are sending me a replacement in overnight shipping, and as of now they don't know it's rooted.
Whenever i boot the phone it has the custom symbol with the lock on it, will that mean my warranty will be voided and I will have to pay for the full price? Although I ordered overnight shipping it won't be shipped for another 2 days due to the fact that tomorrow is sunday. It is still rooted ATM. Thanks in advance guys! Hope to be a long-time active member here.
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I have returned 2 rooted VZW phones for hardware failure. DId it through the mail. No problem. I believe that there was a court ruling that messing with software on phones doesn't void hardware warraanty but I'm too lazy to google it right now. GL.
I had CM9 On my rooted Samsung Galaxy S3, and my phone would crash randomly in the middle of changing songs on playerpro or in the middle of phone calls, so I tried to download SiyahKernel hoping it would add some stability to my ROM. Well I had 2 different versions of the kernel somehow. One was SiyahKernel 3.something, and the other was 2.5. I assumed the 3.something would be for the S3 and the 2 something was a false download that I got on accident and was made for the S2 or something, but when I tried to flash the 3.something it didn't work, versus when I tried flashing the 2.5 it installed perfectly fine. So, here's the fun part...when I went to reboot my phone it died COMPLETELY. I can't start the phone in download mode to odin it, can't get into recovery to flash an old nandroid. Phone won't turn on, won't charge, will do absolutely nothing, and I know for sure the battery was charged to 90% when it crapped out. I've done battery pulls, I actually did a 3 hour battery pull at one point...I don't have insurance, and I don't have the $$$ to go buy another phone, so if anyone has some ideas on how I could either get my phone back operational, or a cheaper solution (like a jigg) it would be MUCH appreciated. I wasn't just a noob jumping into it on my S3, I've been rooting, romming, and flashing **** since 2009, and it's my 10th smartphone, but my first brick ever. Please help!
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If you can't get into odin mode or recovery then your phone is deffo hard bricked n will be costly to repair mate. Be careful flashing kernels n use odin to do it not recovery mode
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I had the gs2 and I was trying to unroot it and I couldn't even get Odin to work because it didn't recognize the phone. So I called samsung and told them that got an update, but after it finish updating it cut off and never came on, and the battery was fully charged. So, if I was you I'll go that route. And good luck
droidstyle said:
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Could I do the JTAG process MYSELF, or is paying them 60 dollars the only way to solve my problem?
That seems like the only way to fix this, because as of right now I seem pretty much screwed.
Atreux said:
Could I do the JTAG process MYSELF, or is paying them 60 dollars the only way to solve my problem?
That seems like the only way to fix this, because as of right now I seem pretty much screwed.
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I think you need equipment to do it.
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Note for the future: always a good idea to carry the cheaper (just asurion) insurance if your gonna root and flash. It's $5.18/month. A quick "oops I drove over my phone, or its on the bottom of the Atlantic", and boom.. New phone for a C note.
Sorry for no solution, it's more for others reading post.
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I think you need equipment to do it.
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annoyingduck said:
Note for the future: always a good idea to carry the cheaper (just asurion) insurance if your gonna root and flash. It's $5.18/month. A quick "oops I drove over my phone, or its on the bottom of the Atlantic", and boom.. New phone for a C note.
Sorry for no solution, it's more for others reading post.
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This post is ridiculous. Asurion blows, never have had a good experience with them over using 5 phones insured by them. Only ever had 2 crap out on me (hardware-wise. If it was ever software related I did it, and knew exactly how to handle it, but the 2 that were done were spidered screens). They gave me a broken refurbished evo back for the very first phone I ever had that I rooted, rommed, and hacked on for DAYS trying to learn the entire process...all those manhours and they send me a refurbished phone with nothing on it, and a screwed up LCD digitzer...do NOT recommend asurion whatsoever, and will never use them again no matter what carrier I go with.
mikey banner said:
If you can't get into odin mode or recovery then your phone is deffo hard bricked n will be costly to repair mate. Be careful flashing kernels n use odin to do it not recovery mode
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Why would you use odin to flash a kernel? I use cwm all the time for roms and kernels alike. Odin for radios or to return to stock. Cwm does everything else I need it to do. Same mistake could have been made on a computer guy downloaded two kernels and flashed the wrong one.
OP I am sorry for your loss.
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annoyingduck said:
Note for the future: always a good idea to carry the cheaper (just asurion) insurance if your gonna root and flash. It's $5.18/month. A quick "oops I drove over my phone, or its on the bottom of the Atlantic", and boom.. New phone for a C note.
Sorry for no solution, it's more for others reading post.
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imo insurance fraud is not the right answer. the right thing to do is research then flash, dont flash then research. ofcourse its now standard in america to be bailed out for every mistake we make, so perhaps your right.... I have yet to cave in and accept this kind of mentality.
The profit margins these companies make is ridiculous to begin with. It's not fraud, the only thing that may be considered even close to it is claiming that the phone is missing or damaged beyond repair due to something that was out of your control. Non the less your insurance covers all these avenues twice a year.
In reality, a bricked phone should be covered under insurance, and I'm sure if you have the proper legal knowledge you could argue that further and make them cover it without having to tell a white lie. Insurance is simple, covering a loss. And a loss is technically a brick (that's not open for debate either, that's correct), but there is a loophole they use where they can refuse to honor a claim if they feel to do so (hence modifications).
F that. I pay for insurance, I do my part. Not to mention when I actually signed up for the insurance, I asked the vzw rep if a rooted phone is covered, and his response was exactly this: don't take a chance, smash it up and send it back, or disappear the device.
I do not abuse or condone anything of what I said, I have yet to make a claim, but be assured, if I brick my device after 5 years of carrying ins. I am getting my money's worth out of it.
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Before I start some troublehosting I want to hear some opinions first if possible.
And I would to add that this is my firt samsung phone(since I managed to drown my sony xperia go witch was supposed to be waterproofff) so things seem different from the way sony does theyr things. much easyer I might say as just a user, but much harder for devs:/
Anyhow, so I got a DOA/DAP act and this time added a little more cash and got this gem. Got it with 4.1.2, got it rooted. Only days after I manage to find out that 4.2.2 update has been releaced for quite sometime. Currently I have no computer and have been using the phone as a replacement. Now I'm kind of Getting interested in updating and wanted to ask some opinions and maybe a comparison of the two.
Android 4.2.2:
Lock Screen Widgets
Transparent Status Bar
New Notification Panel (More toggles)
Lock Screen new effects when touched
Daydream mode (Setting>display)
New keyboard
Minor changes in user interface
New user interface in setting (same as the s4)
Higher score in benchmark
Better battery life
*I didn't install Android 4.2.2 but that's what I know, do tell me if I missed any of them.
If you wanna update 4.2.2 before it's available for your country, you have to download the 4.2.2 firmware from Sammobile and flash it via Odin. Make sure your computer is fully working and it doesn't power off itself in a sudden :silly:
As you mentioned, you rooted your 4.1.2, OTA wouldn't be available, if you want any OTA from your country you have to flash stock firmware (Like I did too). But if you flash other country's 4.2.2 you would lose your warranty as well. So you decide.
I'm waiting for Hong Kong's official update.
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But if you flash other country's 4.2.2 you would lose your warranty as well. So you decide.
I'm waiting for Hong Kong's official update.
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But you can reflash your country's firmware if you need to claim the warranty
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Flashing isnt hard, its just that this binary counter is somethig new for me, so I still have just a basic understanding how it works. Tell me: when I wanted to root I went in download mode and the first thing I was given were two options - vol.up as reboot and forget or vol.down and go into the actual download mode. So I press down and I see do not disconnet or unplug ect. And at the botom I saw the triangle. I was just about to flash the needed stuff but it was already there, still is...
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Also where do I get my countries fw? Although I'm pretty sure mines international. And would the phone status change to official if I reset the counter? Maybe kies then would allow me to get the update?
all u r answers are already given in the s ll plus forums read it carefully.
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all u r answers are already given in the s ll plus forums read it carefully.
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I'm pretty sure I would have already found some answers since this is almost a dead forum. Maybe I overlooked - yes, but atleast linkig to some answers would be nice.
U can update ur phone via kies if the update is already available for ur country.
If u simply flash the firmware via odin without flashing cwm or something else ur binarycounter wont count higher.
U said u rooted ur phone so i guess that u flashed cwm and then superuser.zip in cwm. If u did that ur counter already counted up to 1 so it is not nessesary wheather u flash a prerouted firmware or do it urself after flashing the normal one.
It is up to u.
Btw. It is possible to reset the counter.
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Nekator said:
U can update ur phone via kies if the update is already available for ur country.
If u simply flash the firmware via odin without flashing cwm or something else ur binarycounter wont count higher.
U said u rooted ur phone so i guess that u flashed cwm and then superuser.zip in cwm. If u did that ur counter already counted up to 1 so it is not nessesary wheather u flash a prerouted firmware or do it urself after flashing the normal one.
It is up to u.
Btw. It is possible to reset the counter.
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Yes I know when the counter counts and that I can reset it somehow as I was talking about before. The question is: would kies upgrade me if I have the counter rolling and if not where can I just get the firmware to go stock again.
Didnt tested it. But if u dont have the german Firmware u wont get an update via kies
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Well I guess its a hit or miss thing. Have to get my ass at some friend and see what I can get out of kies. Ether way I'm probably gonna have to make some backups now. Damn this forum needs a bit more organization going on.
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Well I guess its a hit or miss thing. Have to get my ass at some friend and see what I can get out of kies. Ether way I'm probably gonna have to make some backups now. Damn this forum needs a bit more organization going on.
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Show some respect here dude, everyone is trying to help you and you criticize us like this? If you really think we do need more organization. You either get the f*** out of our forum. or YOU organize it yourself. Instead of sitting here complaining.
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I'm pretty sure I would have already found some answers since this is almost a dead forum. Maybe I overlooked - yes, but atleast linkig to some answers would be nice.
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"almost a dead forum" - so it wouldn't be hard to look or search before opening this thread... And yet you demand to be spoonfed. But that's ok, you still got replies.
Then in another post you proceed to be a d1ck and condescending to the posters here. You know what, it's idiots like you who only come in demanding ti be sponfed and then disappear without contributing that make the S2+ forum a ghost town.
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Sorry if it felt like that. Trust me I would like to contribute if I could, but I literally cannot now. Just thought I could get some opinions going on. And there is nothing wrong if this is a dead place for the time being. I said this place need some organization its to cause this is still a bit new phone and people are going to start rolling in eventually. Also just because I don't post anything doesn't mean I don't read. I like to lurk and see what' up, would help somebody more often but I think there are people who can help/explain better.
Thanks for such a warm welcome guys. It's a hard enough for me to get online. Using a phone fully as a home computer cant be enough to start helping everyone. I'm still learning, trying my best for school and my parents are divorcing so there is a chance I might start living just for rent instead of joining a university. I'm sorry for what I said, but really I'm just trying to be mature here. So if there is somehow I can help the forums just say, really don't want to ask and leave like **** as you said.
First you have to write more respectful posts like you just did.
And follow the guides in the forum which teaches you how to build Rom or make mods. You can search them.
I'm not an expert in developing but I think normal questions should do
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leason learned. also now the phone is dead. got it to warranty yesterday. it died while charging, pluged it in, left it, come back to see that it shows no life. i did saw something like glue melt under the flash, but one of the two bubles faded after a while. but it cannot be water i swear. i did no overclocking, even had it underclocked to 800Mhz. the lady said this could take a week. if anyone is interested i can update on the status when i get something on theyr site.
Aside from better graphics and widgets, performance boost is definitely a worth. Battery life as said by many is not experienced by me yet. Maybe bad ROM flash, will re-flash ROM by the end of the month.
if I do get it back I'll try it out. untill then just to add up a little: sent it in rooted with the bin.counter probably above 1, now I fear that they will dismount the chip to read it to see the bin.count ;_; maybe i'm getting paranoied. anyway the site now says its being sent to some other building, nothing more till now. sorry for slow comebacks but now I'm using a gliched out smart tvs browser with gettho internet connection.
this could not have went any better. they say its water damaged and the replacement motherboard will cost something about 140 USD. Never in my life has a device gotten water damaged and they just say the whole motherboard needs to be replaced. worst day ever.
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this could not have went any better. they say its water damaged and the replacement motherboard will cost something about 140 USD. Never in my life has a device gotten water damaged and they just say the whole motherboard needs to be replaced. worst day ever.
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That is sad. Very sad. I know how it sucks to find out warranty not getting claimed. I bought a tablet 2 days back for my mum and it had hardware problem which broke my heart. The phone new is for 270 dollars in my country. 140 is way too much.
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I bought mine for 100 € because the grandfather from a classmate got this phone for free from his Provider and he didnt need it. So he wanted to sell it as soon as possible. XD
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