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First of all I apologize if this has been covered, I have been trying to find a solution for 3 days straight. I have a Rogers Wireless HTC One X I managed to unlock bootloader and root as well as having access to TWRP 2.1.8. recovery.
My problem is when I tried to apply the 3 dot removal mod my phone suddenly would not boot past the first screen, and a message would appear for developers use do not distribute but just stay on that screen. I have tried numerous things to no avail. I can boot in recovery and mount sd card from there (but have not found a successful way to restore from within recovery mode) otherwise in fastboot etc. the computer does mount the phone at all. it will not mount as a device properly so I cannot run the RUU and flash to stock.
So I am left with a unmountable and unbootable phone (brick) and have no other ideas on how to fix it if possible. BTW the device does show in device mgr and the computer gives the connect and disconnect alert, but it will not mount. Also, I have read the bootloader has to be relocked to flash back to stock if I relock the phone I cannot access recovery therefore an endless nightmare. Also, within TWRP recovery I try to reboot and it gives an error saying no Android OS found, install a rom or restore from backup (which I have neither) so I have to hold the power and dwn volume button to reboot each time to switch from recovery to fastboot. I think its toast.
Thank you in advance for any responses, I have been up almost 36 hours straight trying to figure this out and the phone is not even a week old. :crying:
There's a link in dev to unofficial twrp with usb mount support install that by following the directions in the thread. Then you'll be able to copy a rom to the phone for flashing.
Or you can install HTC Sync on your computer and that may allow you to use a RUU to flash back to stock. HTC Sync has the required drivers to make a Windows PC recognize the HOX.
gunnyman said:
There's a link in dev to unofficial twrp with usb mount support install that by following the directions in the thread. Then you'll be able to copy a rom to the phone for flashing.
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Thank you very much I will look into that today. Fingers crossed!
i ran into a similar situation about a week ago. hard shut down the phone by holding down power button for like 10 seconds, then boot into bootloader. hit fastboot. connect your phone to computer, and fastboot oem lock bootloader. now you can ruu. Download Rogers RUU utility and follow steps. Voila! Phone is just like new! but first make sure you still have your old unlock_bin code in case you want to reunlock bootloader.
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Or you can install HTC Sync on your computer and that may allow you to use a RUU to flash back to stock. HTC Sync has the required drivers to make a Windows PC recognize the HOX.
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Yes, thank you I have HTC Sync installed and it does not recognize the phone when it is connected either. I will keep searching. Thanks.
ethantarheels123 said:
i ran into a similar situation about a week ago. hard shut down the phone by holding down power button for like 10 seconds, then boot into bootloader. hit fastboot. connect your phone to computer, and fastboot oem lock bootloader. now you can ruu. Download Rogers RUU utility and follow steps. Voila! Phone is just like new! but first make sure you still have your old unlock_bin code in case you want to reunlock bootloader.
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Yes, I have tried relocking bootloader, it did not help with the phone being recognized by the computer also when I oem lock I cannot access recovery and such. I will have some more time to poke around with it, I have downloaded the RUU utility although it sends back error with device not found. Thanks for your reply, I will keep at it I know the phone can not be bricked, well I am hoping not!
I bought a HTC One S for T-Mobile USA. Has been working flawlessly. Today I got an OTA and my world is now upside down. I have spent 5 hours trying countless things to get my phone back up to no avail.
my phone stats:
hboot 1.09.0000
radio 0.16.31501s.16_2
open dsp-v28.1.0.32.0504
emmc-boot apr 2 2012,21:08:24
UNLOCKED
TAMPERED
How do I get back to square one and turn this phone back into something usable?
It has something called TWRP 2.1.7 installed on it and I have tried fastboot and a host of other things to remove it. I have even tried the thread on sending your phone back to stock but I can't access RUU because it won't load the driver. I have never rooted this phone nor do I believe USB Debugging was turned on before I accepted the OTA. I can communicate via fastboot in the command shell via a usb cable. The PC wont mound the SD card so I can't copy a new image and reboot this thing on a different rom and then send it back to stock.
I am about ready to throw it away because i can't seem to get a .zip file to it so it will run again (for putting a working build on it). There are no images to boot to. Somehow that got wiped and no backup was done. I don't give a poop if the data is whiped. Its all backed up via dropbox and exchange. I just want it up and running so i can use RUU and send it back to stock.
Any help would be appreciated.
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I bought a HTC One S for T-Mobile USA. Has been working flawlessly. Today I got an OTA and my world is now upside down. I have spent 5 hours trying countless things to get my phone back up to no avail.
my phone stats:
hboot 1.09.0000
radio 0.16.31501s.16_2
open dsp-v28.1.0.32.0504
emmc-boot apr 2 2012,21:08:24
UNLOCKED
TAMPERED
How do I get back to square one and turn this phone back into something usable?
It has something called TWRP 2.1.7 installed on it and I have tried fastboot and a host of other things to remove it. I have even tried the thread on sending your phone back to stock but I can't access RUU because it won't load the driver. I have never rooted this phone nor do I believe USB Debugging was turned on before I accepted the OTA. I can communicate via fastboot in the command shell via a usb cable. The PC wont mound the SD card so I can't copy a new image and reboot this thing on a different rom and then send it back to stock.
I am about ready to throw it away because i can't seem to get a .zip file to it so it will run again (for putting a working build on it). There are no images to boot to. Somehow that got wiped and no backup was done. I don't give a poop if the data is whiped. Its all backed up via dropbox and exchange. I just want it up and running so i can use RUU and send it back to stock.
Any help would be appreciated.
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I hate to tell you this but if you never unlocked or rooted your phone, somebody did. Your device is unlocked and running a custom recovery therefore you cannot accept over the air updates and that is your problem. You did not buy your phone that way from T-Mobile so what did you really do to get to this point?
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I hate to tell you this but if you never unlocked and rooted your phone, somebody did. Your device is unlocked and running a custom recovery therefore you cannot accept over the air updates and that is your problem. You did not buy your phone that way from T-Mobile so what did you really do to get to this point?
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I never said I bought it as OEM. I also never thought to ask the guy I got it from if he rooted it or unlocked it.
Relocking the boot loader then running an RUU should fix the issue. Once you do that enter the recovery and wipe everything/factory reset.
Then if you are trying to run a custom ROM you should be able to mount your SD card and push one to the phone.
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Relocking the boot loader then running an RUU should fix the issue. Once you do that enter the recovery and wipe everything/factory reset.
Then if you are trying to run a custom ROM you should be able to mount your SD card and push one to the phone.
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Great reply however I am short on knowledge on how to do what you have recommended. I don't know how to relock the boot loader nor can I run RUU because I can't get the driver installed. Any help would be awesome. Thank in advance. Sorry I'm a noob at this.
In the dev section there is an all in one toolkit that will execute the correct scripts for you. Download it, then run it. You may also need the HTC sync drivers installed on your computer.
Once you see that the bootloader is locked run the ruu.
And don't apologize for being a noob, I am too lol. We all need help to get started.
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If you install HTC sync to your pc it should install the driver's you need. Then install the one s tool kit in developers section to relock. Then run ruu.
Also, anything you see in blue text is what you'll need to type, or copy/paste, to avoid any quote confusion.
Files You Need:
T-Mobile USA RUU file (mirror) - it's about 563 mb, and worth saving once you download it.
Extremely Important: If you're on another carrier you'll need a different RUU file - DO NOT try and run this RUU file, it could really screw you up. Go to this link to find the right RUU file.
HTC Drivers (mirror) - You probably already have the drivers installed if you're needing this thread, but just in case...
ADB / Fastboot (mirror) - same as the drivers, but again, just in case...
Initial Setup:
Again, some of this might be redundant as you might already have this setup if you rooted/unlocked.
Install the HTC drivers if you haven't already
Unzip the adbfastboot.zip file to your desktop (anywhere, but I find it easiest to get to it on the desktop for my habits)
Getting into the bootloader (hboot):
If you're stuck in a boot loop, pull the batt... oh wait, we can't do that here. To perform a hard reset, hold down the power button for 10 seconds - in the process you'll see the softkeys start blinking, then it should reset. As soon as it starts to reset, release power, and hold down the volume-down button - hold it until hboot pops up (white screen, colored text).
If you're phone is fully powered off (make sure "fastboot" is disabled - settings > power), hold the volume-down key and while holding it, press and hold power for a few seconds. You can probably release the power button, just make sure you keep holding volume-down - after probably 3-5 seconds (maybe a bit more), hboot should come up.
If the phone is on and you're plugged in to your computer, make sure "usb debugging is enabled" (settings > developer options), shift+right-click the adbfastboot directory on your desktop (or wherever you put it), choose "open command window here", and in the prompt that comes up, input adb reboot bootloader.
Restoring:
Once you're in hboot, make sure you select Fastboot (if you don't see it, you're in Fastboot already). In the command prompt referenced above, input fastboot oem lock. This will relock your bootloader in order to allow the RUU to run. Historically this has been necessary for an RUU to run, but I haven't actually tested it without relocking on the One S, and assumed based on previous HTC devices that this would continue to be the case. Edit: thanks rbrookstx for confirming that re-locking is necessary
Your phone will reboot when it relocks - follow the steps above to get back into hboot.
Once you're back in hboot, make sure you're in Fastboot, and open / run the RUU file. It'll go through some initial prompts, then it should start. It takes about 10-15 minutes, maybe less, depending on your computer.
Once it's done, it'll simply go back into hboot - reboot, and you're good to go.
A couple of notes:
When you unlocked and flashed a custom recovery (if you did that), hboot probably said "tampered with" and when it booted up, it probably had a red message under the "HTC" logo about being a developer only device. That should be gone now. It should boot up clean, and hboot should simply say "relocked", with no tampered message.
Until a better solution comes out, once you unlock the bootloader with HTC's official method, it can never be locked the way it was from the factory. "Relocked" is the best you can do.
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This is what worked. I had to search the internet for this stuff but the HTC driver, the fast boot and the RUU with a matching or higher radio number all made it work out.
Novice here.
Ran the All-in-One utility today and after the CWM installed I hit "Perm root" without reading the thing below telling me to boot to recovery first. It's now stuck in boot loop. Everything went off fine up until the Perm root. Even that said successful and then restarted. Only after the process was completed did the recovery loop begin. No HTC logo loop. Just reboots into CWM over and over no matter what technique I use (except for opening the case).
I've read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599363
And am trying to install ADB to push ANY possible ROM over to the SD card. My recovery allows the toggle of /mount sdcard and /mount system, however adb fastboot push doesn't work. "error: device not found"
And I can't do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644730 because my phone is stuck in the recovery loop. If I try volume down + power, it just comes back to recovery screen. I've tried factory reset, I've tried wiping cache, I've tried wiping Dalvik, and still nothing. I did flash the SuperSu.zip after I had used the Perm Root button on Haroon2000's app.
I'm incredibly flustered as I've rooted devices for years and this is my first problem. I've seen similar complaints all with ideas of breaking into the phone and unplugging it's battery so I can get to the bootloader etc, but I'm so very confused. So many posts telling me to do so many things.
Can someone please help break down a tangible solution here? I'm freaking out.
Cheers
EDIT: If someone can get my phone fixed, I'll Paypal them $50 USD. I really need my phone back ASAP :\
I don't know if this is your solution, but you did not mention it as one of your attempts.
Have you looked into running an RUU?
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I don't know if this is your solution, but you did not mention it as one of your attempts.
Have you looked into running an RUU?
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I'll update this again once I try breaking the phone down and yanking the battery. But I have tried running the RUU. I can't get to the bootloader right now and it's not listing the device when I adb devices.
I'm going to go home from work since I've spent 7 hours on two machines (XP/7) trying to fix this PoS and redo everything from the ground up. Hopefully my anger will have overcome it.
Something I've noticed however, is that within the CWM recovery, I can use the All-in-one tool to reboot the phone. So it is reacting to ADB commands. Perhaps trying to use ADB fastboot (Right-click method) instead of full ADB installation could be a problem with trying to push a ROM zip. Also, as far as the RUU goes. I don't remember what happened there. I'll edit this when I get home.
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I'll update this again once I try breaking the phone down and yanking the battery. But I have tried running the RUU. I can't get to the bootloader right now and it's not listing the device when I adb devices.
I'm going to go home from work since I've spent 7 hours on two machines (XP/7) trying to fix this PoS and redo everything from the ground up. Hopefully my anger will have overcome it.
Something I've noticed however, is that within the CWM recovery, I can use the All-in-one tool to reboot the phone. So it is reacting to ADB commands. Perhaps trying to use ADB fastboot (Right-click method) instead of full ADB installation could be a problem with trying to push a ROM zip. Also, as far as the RUU goes. I don't remember what happened there. I'll edit this when I get home.
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Okay, update.
I was able to get ADB working and detect my phone.
Next, I was able to push Venom Rom to phone. I factory reset, wiped cache, wiped Dalvik, and was able to install Venom.zip. It then asked to reboot (per Venom screen) and I said okay. It then returned to CWM Recovery. I was confused but left everything as is. I have now reset the phone by holding the power button for around 10 seconds. It then restarted to the HTC Quietly Brilliant screen. I have been looking at that screen for about 5 minutes.
Also pertinent: I did try to run the RUU, but it didn't connect through USB. (I forget what it said verbatim). So that didn't work. I also was able prior to this entire process get into the bootloader via dumb luck.
Any suggestions? I am staring at the HTC boot screen still. Do I try to restart and enter bootloader? If so, then what? It seems there is something wrong with CWM. Can I switch recoveries? Can I uninstall it?
Calm down we have all been there,
When you flashed venom did you flash the boot image? Also i use twrp instead of cwm i find twrp better .
To enter bootloader hold power button and down vol together .
As gazknight said, this seems like proper kernel not being flashed or having an issue. If you flashed the boot.img with fastboot, try again erasing cache from fastboot first. The commands are as follow:
fastboot erase cache
fastboot flash boot boot.img (where this boot.img is the one inside the zip from the rom you choose and must be left in the same folder than fastboot)
It happened to me a couple times when i was on hboot 1.14 that I had to flash the boot.img a second time sometimes, somehow it was not working the first time, randomly, even though the flash had completed ok on fastboot.
If still doesn't work try doing a factory reset from TWRP and flashing ViperOneS again.
If that still doesn't work, you might want to try another rom, like TrickDroid, you would then have to flash the boot.img from this other room with fastboot, remember that.
Try and let us know
Hold down volume down while you're trying to boot, that will get you in boot loader, go to fast boot by pressing the power key, connect your phone to your computer, run the flash viper boot img thingy and you're set!
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Same issue with HTC One S bricked but in European version, Stock ROM
hello,
I did't want to start a new topic, as I'm experiencing a similar issue with my HOS. Briefly, yesterday morning I plug the phone from charger at 06.00 am. Play with it for a while and then go to work. Used it at work for a few phone calls until 10.00 am (so 4 hours on fully charge battery). Then at 10.00 am I went into a meeting and left the phone out of my sight for 20-30 minutes. When I came back from the meeting I realize that the phone was closed. I try to open it (power button) but nothing. Press power for 10-30 seconds with volume down - still no effect.
Then I took the charger (the original one that I always use to cherge it) and plug it, left it for 2-3 minutes and press power. The phone starts but all I have is the white screen with HTC logo and if I press the power button + volume down the phone goes into bootloader. That's all I can do with it for now.
I have stock rom, bootloader is locked and I never try to root the phone. Is it any chance to repair it by myself or I have to sent it to the repair shop.
many thanks in advance.
Alright so I feel like I'm getting closer.
Here's whats happening now. It's in the HTC boot screen loop. I can get it into bootloader whenever I want, but now it's not detecting /sdcard in recovery. Within the bootloader, fastboot won't detect my device and my computer (Windows 8) claims the device is malfunctioning. I can still use fastboot adb commands from my computer when it is in recovery. I have gone into bootloader and cleared storage, as well as factory reset after. Also, it used to reboot into recovery endlessly. Now it appears that isn't hte case and reboots from recovery into the OS, but will not work.
I'm going to try and flash using adb w/o sdcard the boot.img as suggested above. I'll keep updating so others can know the process if they soft-brick their phone (I'm assuming this is a soft brick because I can still run things etc).
Update: trying to do fastboot erase cache from within recovery gives me "Waiting for device". As I've said, for some reason, it says the device is malfunctioning/not detected when I'm in the 1.14 Hboot Bootloader. But again, I can issue adb devices from within recovery. Sdcard still not mounting.
Edit: I'm issuing adb commands through adbfastboot files. Do I need to have the Android SDK fully installed with the Manager thing, or does the basic adbfastboot work (From here: http://www.htconeforum.com/forum/ht...e-your-htc-one-s-back-100-stock-relocked.html). That adb fastboot has the following files: adb, fastboot, adbwinapi.dll, adbwinusbapi.dll.
I think the source of the current problem is that I can no longer access my /sdcard or mount it. One step forward, then two steps back -_-.
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Alright so I feel like I'm getting closer.
Here's whats happening now. It's in the HTC boot screen loop. I can get it into bootloader whenever I want, but now it's not detecting /sdcard in recovery. Within the bootloader, fastboot won't detect my device and my computer (Windows 8) claims the device is malfunctioning. I can still use fastboot adb commands from my computer when it is in recovery. I have gone into bootloader and cleared storage, as well as factory reset after. Also, it used to reboot into recovery endlessly. Now it appears that isn't hte case and reboots from recovery into the OS, but will not work.
I'm going to try and flash using adb w/o sdcard the boot.img as suggested above. I'll keep updating so others can know the process if they soft-brick their phone (I'm assuming this is a soft brick because I can still run things etc).
Update: trying to do fastboot erase cache from within recovery gives me "Waiting for device". As I've said, for some reason, it says the device is malfunctioning/not detected when I'm in the 1.14 Hboot Bootloader. But again, I can issue adb devices from within recovery. Sdcard still not mounting.
Edit: I'm issuing adb commands through adbfastboot files. Do I need to have the Android SDK fully installed with the Manager thing, or does the basic adbfastboot work (From here: http://www.htconeforum.com/forum/ht...e-your-htc-one-s-back-100-stock-relocked.html). That adb fastboot has the following files: adb, fastboot, adbwinapi.dll, adbwinusbapi.dll.
I think the source of the current problem is that I can no longer access my /sdcard or mount it. One step forward, then two steps back -_-.
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You might need to do it as administrator.
I think I've got it. One last tip. All of the above has been helpful, but I think the problem was trying to use my Windows 8 laptop. The second I got to work, I plugged it in on the bootloader to my XP machine and voila! it recognized fastboot and listed devices.
I have tried to run the RUU 2.35.531.7 but just like unrooting my old phone, I had issues because that update was already on this phone, so it goes through the entire process only to tell me on the windows XP utility that it had failed because it was the wrong update. When I did this to my old One S right before I sent it into Tmobile for warranty, it did the same thing with the 1.53 RUU, then when I found the 2.35, it worked like a charm.
So my last question (hopefully) then is, am I missing something as for installing an OLD or exact same RUU? Or is there a newer one than the 2.35.531.7?
I haven't tried on a Windows 7 machine, but I have one available here at work. I'm wondering if I should try to fastboot a ROM. Any suggestions what I can do to get it back to stock, or an old old stock version? I'd like to root it so I can use my Titanium Backup.
Update: Before ending this reply, I read that the RUU may be failing because the bootloader is unlocked/tampered still. I'm going to run it again to grab the error code to make sure of the issue, because it seems you should be able to revert or use any RUU (correct?).
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I think I've got it. One last tip. All of the above has been helpful, but I think the problem was trying to use my Windows 8 laptop. The second I got to work, I plugged it in on the bootloader to my XP machine and voila! it recognized fastboot and listed devices.
I have tried to run the RUU 2.35.531.7 but just like unrooting my old phone, I had issues because that update was already on this phone, so it goes through the entire process only to tell me on the windows XP utility that it had failed because it was the wrong update. When I did this to my old One S right before I sent it into Tmobile for warranty, it did the same thing with the 1.53 RUU, then when I found the 2.35, it worked like a charm.
So my last question (hopefully) then is, am I missing something as for installing an OLD or exact same RUU? Or is there a newer one than the 2.35.531.7?
I haven't tried on a Windows 7 machine, but I have one available here at work. I'm wondering if I should try to fastboot a ROM. Any suggestions what I can do to get it back to stock, or an old old stock version? I'd like to root it so I can use my Titanium Backup.
Update: Before ending this reply, I read that the RUU may be failing because the bootloader is unlocked/tampered still. I'm going to run it again to grab the error code to make sure of the issue, because it seems you should be able to revert or use any RUU (correct?).
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The bootloader does need to be relocked for the RUU too work and the RUU you used before should work because I have used the same RUU a few times and it worked fine.
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The bootloader does need to be relocked for the RUU too work and the RUU you used before should work because I have used the same RUU a few times and it worked fine.
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I'll try that. thanks.
Now on the same XP computer, it's not showing when I adb devices, however it does show in device manager. This changed after trying to do the RUU without relocking.
Yeah! Fixed!
After enough toggling, I changed the recovery to the T one and relocked my bootloader. It turns out detecting the device wasn't necessary somehow. Then I ran the RUU and voila!
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I'll try that. thanks.
Now on the same XP computer, it's not showing when I adb devices, however it does show in device manager. This changed after trying to do the RUU without relocking.
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Not sure whats up with that, never had any issue on win7.
Windows 8 fastboot works on my laptop for some reason. I installed the drivers from the HTC Sync folder.
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Hey yall. I had the phone for 6 days before I bricked it. I am wondering if there is any stock recovery mode or anything or what I shsould do? I think something went wrong due to using the root toolbox pro app. I have done some backups within the ap as well as Titanium Backup but now the phone will not boot up and I dont know if/how to put it in factory recovery mode. Soft reset does nothing. The Motorola logo will show on startup but then the screen just blacks out forever, not off, just colored black.
A few details, the phone was rooted with Motofail2go, with no recovery and bootloader still locked as far as I know.
Should I take it to Sprint for a factory reset? Is this even an option? What are my other options?
Next time I will probably use the Moto unlock key so I can open the bootloader all legit like and have a recovery mode...
Try holding power button and the down volume key to power off. Once you power off press and hold them again. This should boot you into fastboot, Motorola's adb shell basically. This can take a couple tries, make sure the phone is powered down completely before hitting volume down and power button to get into fastboot. If you can boot into fastboot you can unlock using this guide: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/20/how-to-unlock-the-motorola-photon-q-bootloader/
Once unlocked flash the custom recovery of your choice (I like twrp). You can boot into custom recovery by holding volume up and the power button from a powered down state. Here is the link for instructions on how to flash twrp:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1887070
Then you can download one of the stock backups for the Q posted in the development section and restore them using the custom recovery. Most of the ones I have seen have been compatible with twrp.
The only way to download the stock rom backups is to remove the sd card from your phone, plug your sd card into a PC or other device with a card reader, download the stock backups, and place the stock backup rom files on your sd card. Finally place the sd card with the stock backup downloads into your phone.
These backups and information on how to go through this process can be found in this thread on page 2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001226
The key is to make a backup of your existing rom with twrp and then move the stock backups from your sd card to the twrp/backups/yourdeiceserial/ directory. That creates a backup directory which twrp knows to look for backups in.
Don't feel bad, I've been in that state several times since getting the Q, live and learn.
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Try holding power button and the down volume key to power off. Once you power off press and hold them again. This should boot you into fastboot, Motorola's adb shell basically. This can take a couple tries, make sure the phone is powered down completely before hitting volume down and power button to get into fastboot. If you can boot into fastboot you can unlock using this guide: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/20/how-to-unlock-the-motorola-photon-q-bootloader/
Once unlocked flash the custom recovery of your choice (I like twrp). You can boot into custom recovery by holding volume up and the power button from a powered down state. Here is the link for instructions on how to flash twrp:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1887070
Then you can download one of the stock backups for the Q posted in the development section and restore them using the custom recovery. Most of the ones I have seen have been compatible with twrp.
Don't feel bad, I've been in that state several times since getting the Q, live and learn.
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If that does not work you could drop it in water or something. You have not officially unlocked boot loader so you still have warranty. Or you could just tell sprint it quit working and act completely clueless. At least its bricked with warranty still intact.
matt2k12 said:
Hey yall. I had the phone for 6 days before I bricked it. I am wondering if there is any stock recovery mode or anything or what I shsould do? I think something went wrong due to using the root toolbox pro app. I have done some backups within the ap as well as Titanium Backup but now the phone will not boot up and I dont know if/how to put it in factory recovery mode. Soft reset does nothing. The Motorola logo will show on startup but then the screen just blacks out forever, not off, just colored black.
A few details, the phone was rooted with Motofail2go, with no recovery and bootloader still locked as far as I know.
Should I take it to Sprint for a factory reset? Is this even an option? What are my other options?
Next time I will probably use the Moto unlock key so I can open the bootloader all legit like and have a recovery mode...
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Both of the methods above are very effective. When I had the first photon I bricked it and just dropped it in water and did a claim. Depending on the insurance you have that way may cost you $100. The other method should work. When I first got this phone I did the exact same thing and to go back and unlock then flash twrp and in stall a stock backup someone had posted.
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Try holding power button and the down volume key to power off. Once you power off press and hold them again. This should boot you into fastboot, Motorola's adb shell basically. This can take a couple tries, make sure the phone is powered down completely before hitting volume down and power button to get into fastboot. If you can boot into fastboot you can unlock using this guide: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/20/how-to-unlock-the-motorola-photon-q-bootloader/
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Thanks for the response. Is there anything extra extra special about getting into factory fastboot mode? I can't seem to get it done. Is there an official set of instructions anywhere? Does the phone need to be plugged into the PC? It was always my understanding (for the last week) that Power and Vol Down was the soft reset mode which reboots the phone. Therefore it always tries to reboot in normal mode. This is what keeps happening. It never powers completely down using this method.
Anyhow, once I follow your instructions, the Moto logo appears, no Sprint logo appears, the phone "powers on" but the screen is blacked out (not off). After waiting for a while at the blank/black screen, or holding down several buttons like vol or camera I get the first attachment: "Process system is not responding. Would you like to close it?" When I wait nothing happens. When I push OK nothing happens. By chance, I held down power during the notification and the power menu came up behind the ANR notice (second/third attachments). So obviously there are some things working but the main system isn't booting up. And either factory fastboot is nuked or I can't figure it out. When I power down from this accessible power menu and try to do the fastboot (Power / Vol Down) I still havent gotten it to work.
Any other ideas before I take drastic measures?
Since I bought it from Amazon would that be my best route for return or should I go thru a Sprint store?
Thanks in advance.
Hi again yall. You know once I got to thinking about it, I decided to check out the return policy on Amazon Wireless. They will accept any device under warranty for the first 30 days and it is up to Moto for the next 11 months of warranty coverage. They email me a packing label and it ships out 1 day and they ship out the new phone 1 day shipping. Hard to beat, just takes 2 days of shipping and some more fun times with my Epic, 10.1CM style, in the meantime.
Who's to say it wasnt some sort of hardware or software glitch that bricked the phone rather than my screwing around? Nobody knows and it isn't up to the consumer to prove his innocence. I bought everything legally, all the apps at the app store, and only ran the motofail2go root method. Wasn't running any custom Roms, Mods, or anything. I don't feel bad after they got me for another 2 grand for 24 months, and since I have been with Sprint for 10 years;l I have spent well over 10k or 15k with them lifetime.
If any other method pops up between now and when I ship it out I may give it a shot but if not, ah well, capitalism.
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Thanks for the response. Is there anything extra extra special about getting into factory fastboot mode? I can't seem to get it done. Is there an official set of instructions anywhere? Does the phone need to be plugged into the PC? It was always my understanding (for the last week) that Power and Vol Down was the soft reset mode which reboots the phone. Therefore it always tries to reboot in normal mode. This is what keeps happening. It never powers completely down using this method.
Anyhow, once I follow your instructions, the Moto logo appears, no Sprint logo appears, the phone "powers on" but the screen is blacked out (not off). After waiting for a while at the blank/black screen, or holding down several buttons like vol or camera I get the first attachment: "Process system is not responding. Would you like to close it?" When I wait nothing happens. When I push OK nothing happens. By chance, I held down power during the notification and the power menu came up behind the ANR notice (second/third attachments). So obviously there are some things working but the main system isn't booting up. And either factory fastboot is nuked or I can't figure it out. When I power down from this accessible power menu and try to do the fastboot (Power / Vol Down) I still havent gotten it to work.
Any other ideas before I take drastic measures?
Since I bought it from Amazon would that be my best route for return or should I go thru a Sprint store?
Thanks in advance.
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Try using adb. If your computer has drivers on it for phone you might able to get into fast boot. If that does not work I would try Sprint store first. Have locked my phone up several times while hacking wife off in progress and have used adb every time. Only time i have been truely scared is when i soft bricked my nexus 7. had to stay at work for two hours after i got off to get it to recover because i was scared of her lol.
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If you get adb to recognize device you could take chance and officially unlock boot loader. Then flash twrp. There is a thread in general section about having trouble getting official update. It has a stock recovery in it. Trick would be moving files to recovery section of twrp
I have gotten the phone to soft power down and get into fast boot and custom recovery. It's a bit tricky with timing, I usually wait for the screen to go black after soft reset, let go, and immediately hold power and volume down. If you can not boot into fastboot I honestly don't know what you can do either than return the phone.
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I have gotten the phone to soft power down and get into fast boot and custom recovery. It's a bit tricky with timing, I usually wait for the screen to go black after soft reset, let go, and immediately hold power and volume down. If you can not boot into fastboot I honestly don't know what you can do either than return the phone.
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Thanks for the help Unicron. I think Brandons method might be my only alternative... but you know what? I already have the box packed up to ship back to Amazon! I am still a noob; I dunno if I could go the distance on this one. I have been updating my Android SDK files since I got the phone but I never got it to recognize boot up thru ADB fastboot. disclaimer* I havent tried it in a couple days since all teh SDK updates completed.
I dunno though I am a big time DIYer when possible. If it werent for the massive amount of tape I put on the box and packing label I would already be trying this method. I can't convince myself just yet. Amazon makes it too easy. I could have the *new* phone by Friday. Then I wouldn't be wasting my remaining work week trying to hack into my personal Christmas present in order to make it function...........................................
Edit - Yes I'm impatient. My job is too demanding and I am trying to set a good precedent for 2013. Wasting the first 3 work days on a phone is not how I intend to start off the year. There is probably a valuable lesson to be learned from this as far as hacking experience and to be honest with the responses here I think I could get it to boot up from PC in SDK/ADB mode and go from there. I just didnt know if that was possible until after I made the claim with Amazon. I still have an entire day today and tomorrow if I want to indulge myself. It doesnt matter if I mail the package today or Wednesday, I can still get it by Friday. I believe this thread is still valuable because we have patterns of repeating past failures and I may find use of it when I recieve my new phone and, darn it, it mysteriously bricks as well. in the same fashion.... the only thing I was really trying to do was get all my apps on my SD card... sad huh?
Edit 2 - Opened up the box, tried fastboot and adb, nothing. Off she goes.
I don't blame you, it sounds easier to exchange in your case any way. The main suggestion I have is if you are getting into any type of build.prop or operating system tweaks that have potential to lead to boot loops or cause the phone not to boot, then unlock the bootloader and install custom recovery.
The Moto-fail method seems limited to only be able to run apps that require root. For me this has no use as I want to be able to have complete control over all aspects of the Android OS. There is not a huge mod community for the Q as yet but I believe Cyanogen will be a reality as Interloper continues working on it. I came from an Epic with Cyanogen and soft-bricked it a minimum of 50 times. CWM was very forgiving on that phone, the Q is a lot more finicky and frustrating.
If you have insurance through the carrier then you are going to pay $150 for a refurb if something goes wrong and you hard brick the phone. If you unlock bootloader and install custom recovery then you have a fail-safe in the form of nandroid backups and restores. Then you can mod away with little fear.
Good luck on the new phone and I hope you don't give up after six days of modding with the Q!
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Thanks for the help Unicron. I think Brandons method might be my only alternative... but you know what? I already have the box packed up to ship back to Amazon! I am still a noob; I dunno if I could go the distance on this one. I have been updating my Android SDK files since I got the phone but I never got it to recognize boot up thru ADB fastboot. disclaimer* I havent tried it in a couple days since all teh SDK updates completed.
I dunno though I am a big time DIYer when possible. If it werent for the massive amount of tape I put on the box and packing label I would already be trying this method. I can't convince myself just yet. Amazon makes it too easy. I could have the *new* phone by Friday. Then I wouldn't be wasting my remaining work week trying to hack into my personal Christmas present in order to make it function...........................................
Edit - Yes I'm impatient. My job is too demanding and I am trying to set a good precedent for 2013. Wasting the first 3 work days on a phone is not how I intend to start off the year. There is probably a valuable lesson to be learned from this as far as hacking experience and to be honest with the responses here I think I could get it to boot up from PC in SDK/ADB mode and go from there. I just didnt know if that was possible until after I made the claim with Amazon. I still have an entire day today and tomorrow if I want to indulge myself. It doesnt matter if I mail the package today or Wednesday, I can still get it by Friday. I believe this thread is still valuable because we have patterns of repeating past failures and I may find use of it when I recieve my new phone and, darn it, it mysteriously bricks as well. in the same fashion.... the only thing I was really trying to do was get all my apps on my SD card... sad huh?
Edit 2 - Opened up the box, tried fastboot and adb, nothing. Off she goes.
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FWIW, pressing vol down + power til it resets then pressing the camera button + power once the screen is black gets you to the Boot Mode Selection Menu, where you can start recovery, fastboot, BP tools (still not sure what that is entirely) and some others. Seems to be a fairly reliable/easy method for getting to both recovery and fastboot from any point.
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FWIW, pressing vol down + power til it resets then pressing the camera button + power once the screen is black gets you to the Boot Mode Selection Menu, where you can start recovery, fastboot, BP tools (still not sure what that is entirely) and some others. Seems to be a fairly reliable/easy method for getting to both recovery and fastboot from any point.
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Sure wish I would have known that ahead of time. Does this work without any recovery mode and with the bootloader still locked?
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Sure wish I would have known that ahead of time. Does this work without any recovery mode and with the bootloader still locked?
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It does work without any recovery mode and I believe it still works without the bootloader being unlocked, I didn't know about this myself until after I had already unlocked it. Sorry I couldn't help out sooner.
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It does work without any recovery mode and I believe it still works without the bootloader being unlocked, I didn't know about this myself until after I had already unlocked it. Sorry I couldn't help out sooner.
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Awesome, I am wanting to do the backdoor root method again but, of course, may brick it. I dont think Amazon will keep sending me new ones.... but maybe!
befrosty8612 said:
FWIW, pressing vol down + power til it resets then pressing the camera button + power once the screen is black gets you to the Boot Mode Selection Menu, where you can start recovery, fastboot, BP tools (still not sure what that is entirely) and some others. Seems to be a fairly reliable/easy method for getting to both recovery and fastboot from any point.
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For anyone concerned, I knew it would only be a matter of time until bricking my new device. This damn Root Toolbox Pro did it to me again, and on a simple, menial task. I am going to be working thru the motions on getting this to work.
Using the instructions quoted I did get stock recovery to work or at least flash on the screen for a split second. Seems like there is a timer on the recovery screen. I am having trouble with the fastboot prompt though on the PC. Do I do it in the "platform-tools" folder which contains fastboot or in the "tools" folder of the main SDK directory? I am really a noob, can you give me the cliff notes of how to get into ADB, fastboot, etc on the Photon Q in order to do a factory reset? I already have Android SDK installed and completely up to date so that is done. And Fastboot is installed. I'm just having trouble crossing the finish line here... I can get the fastboot page opened in the stock recovery but from there I'm lost. I dont know what to type into the command prompt, in what directory, or what.... Also when I open the command prompt in the SDK folder on the PC with fastboot in the directory and type "adb reboot bootloader" it says "device not found". Maybe (surely) that is the wrong prompt?
FWIW my phone is showing the dead android guy. I didnt do anything besides try and clear up my Play Store download list which required a reboot. The phone never started back up. I dont know how much damage was done or info was lost or whatever, but seeing as how I was rooted but still locked, I had no custom recovery. So no back ups. Is there anything to restore or am I looking at a full wipe and restore?
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For anyone concerned, I knew it would only be a matter of time until bricking my new device. This damn Root Toolbox Pro did it to me again, and on a simple, menial task. I am going to be working thru the motions on getting this to work.
Using the instructions quoted I did get stock recovery to work or at least flash on the screen for a split second. Seems like there is a timer on the recovery screen. I am having trouble with the fastboot prompt though on the PC. Do I do it in the "platform-tools" folder which contains fastboot or in the "tools" folder of the main SDK directory? I am really a noob, can you give me the cliff notes of how to get into ADB, fastboot, etc on the Photon Q in order to do a factory reset? I already have Android SDK installed and completely up to date so that is done. And Fastboot is installed. I'm just having trouble crossing the finish line here... I can get the fastboot page opened in the stock recovery but from there I'm lost. I dont know what to type into the command prompt, in what directory, or what.... Also when I open the command prompt in the SDK folder on the PC with fastboot in the directory and type "adb reboot bootloader" it says "device not found". Maybe (surely) that is the wrong prompt?
FWIW my phone is showing the dead android guy. I didnt do anything besides try and clear up my Play Store download list which required a reboot. The phone never started back up. I dont know how much damage was done or info was lost or whatever, but seeing as how I was rooted but still locked, I had no custom recovery. So no back ups. Is there anything to restore or am I looking at a full wipe and restore?
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As abnormal as it seems, your situation seems pretty normal... at least from my shoes. I went through the same scenario... I didn't know what adb was, or fastboot, etc. So, here's what I know
the fastboot commands work even if adb doesnt see it in the list of devices attached. Somehow it just works (as long as the phone is in fastboot mode).
If you're able to get to the fastboot mode, things should be okay. Just open a windows explorer window to the Platform-Tools, hold the shift key and right click on a blank space within the window, then click open command window here.
you should be able to pass any adb (if the phone is on and recognized) or fastboot (if phone is in fastboot mode) commands from that command prompt.
Also, if you have a stock recovery, CMW, or TWRP image, this is the folder to copy those .img files to. Once you get your phone into fastboot mode and its plugged into the computer, just type into the command prompt:
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fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
If you're just looking to reboot the phone into recovery
If you have a CWM or TWRP recovery just replace the recovery.img with whatever the .img file that you have. Also, as a tip instead of writing the entire file name, just press the first couple letters then press the tab key within the command prompt, it should fill in the rest. keep pressing tab until you get to the .img file name you want.
To avoid doing this again, maybe I can help... what were you trying to do to begin with? From the sound of it, you were trying to root the phone with the Root Toolbox Pro but it bricked, and then you tried to reboot into recovery and then got the red android... ?
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As abnormal as it seems, your situation seems pretty normal... at least from my shoes. I went through the same scenario... I didn't know what adb was, or fastboot, etc. So, here's what I know
the fastboot commands work even if adb doesnt see it in the list of devices attached. Somehow it just works (as long as the phone is in fastboot mode).
If you're able to get to the fastboot mode, things should be okay. Just open a windows explorer window to the Platform-Tools, hold the shift key and right click on a blank space within the window, then click open command window here.
you should be able to pass any adb (if the phone is on and recognized) or fastboot (if phone is in fastboot mode) commands from that command prompt.
Also, if you have a stock recovery, CMW, or TWRP image, this is the folder to copy those .img files to. Once you get your phone into fastboot mode and its plugged into the computer, just type into the command prompt:
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fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
If you're just looking to reboot the phone into recovery
If you have a CWM or TWRP recovery just replace the recovery.img with whatever the .img file that you have. Also, as a tip instead of writing the entire file name, just press the first couple letters then press the tab key within the command prompt, it should fill in the rest. keep pressing tab until you get to the .img file name you want.
To avoid doing this again, maybe I can help... what were you trying to do to begin with? From the sound of it, you were trying to root the phone with the Root Toolbox Pro but it bricked, and then you tried to reboot into recovery and then got the red android... ?
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Thanks for the response. So, all I have to do is: go to fastboot and flash a stock recovery image file and it will automatically wipe the phone, cache, everything, and restore the operating system? Sounds awfully easy! I found some stock files in this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001226&page=2 Are these the ones you used before?
Last question: I can flash CWM or TWRP but wont be able to access them if my bootloader is locked, correct? So flashing a stock recovery will allow me to have my stock phone back again, locked and un-rooted? I guess if I cant get it to work with the stock recovery then I can unlock the bootloader and do a CWM or TWRP recovery and then flash the stock .img files?
Thanks again for your help. I already had root with the motofail2go method which I like using but seems like when I try and use some generic root feature from apps from the app store that it will crash/brick the phone cuz obviously those apps are generalized and likely to brick certain percentage of devices....
Ok what does this mean? Something with the bootlaoder obviously. Does it need to be unlocked?
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C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools>fastboot flash recover
y qrecovery1.img
(bootloader) Variable not supported!
target reported max download size of 31457280 bytes
sending 'recovery' (5962 KB)...
OKAY [ 0.479s]
writing 'recovery'...
(bootloader) Preflash validation failed
FAILED (remote failure)
finished. total time: 0.755s
C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools>
And on the phone screen it says "invalid image size for partition recovery" twice for both times I tried this method.
You will need to flash the system image as well if you want those, as the recovery image will only flash the recovery. The files in that link are for twrp only... so you'll have to be able to get there first.
With the custom recoveries, I'm not 100% sure whether or not you will be able to use them without being unlocked. I would wait to see if anyone else can answer that question for you, but if you did try it without an unlocked bootloader, you at least have the stock recovery to fall back on if needed.
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I'm thinking it could either be that your phone is full and the image you're flashing is too large to fit on the space available...
Or you're trying to flash custom software on a locked phone.
Hopefully someone is able to answer that a little better...
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You can't alter the stock recovery (flash a custom recovery like twrp or cwm) in fastboot without having the bootloader unlocked. Your options are to unlock your bootloader, flash custom recovery, create a backup of your current setup, download one of the stock working backups, place it in the backups folder for twrp on your external sd card, and restore one of the known working backups in the development section (befrosty linked to one). Or you could use RSD lite to return to stock using a stock factory firmware flash. That involves connecting your phone to your PC and flashing the phone back to factory stock. Information on RSD Lite and links to the FXZ's can be found here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095536
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Hi there,
i have a huge problem. As there was no warrenty left for my One S I thought about to change the firmware to CM11.
I have to admit that i don't have any experience in doing such things, but i thought, it couldnt go wrong if i follow a tutorial.
So at first i unlocked the bootloader via HTC website and istalled TWRP 2.7.1 (latest version). Everything went well, I placed the ROM into the phones root directory, started the recovery and then whiped it before choosing install and selected the file. After about 30 seconds the phone reported the step was successful and i pressed reboot. Then there was the HTC starting screen and then a black screen.
After that i had no reaction but the blinking buttons when i press the power button for a longer time. But it changes nothing. No normal boot. No access to fastboot. Only if i connect it to my PC there is an aditional device to see, but whitout any access.
I know I did wrong but i have no idea what or how to fix it. I hope you can help me.
ElDorado1993
Now i found a way to get access to fastboot again, but i dont really know what to do now.
Can you give me an detailed tutorial, for jelly bean or kitkat (dont matter) that is surely working now?
My main problem is that i can't copy my files into the root directory as i cant boot the phone.
Does it show up in computer connected devices?
If it does, download stock kernel and ROM and upload to phone and go into recovery[power +volume up while off] and flash them both kernel first.
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The problem is the phone wasnt ever shown as device on the pc (like a flash drive) since version 4.1 so I allways needed some tricks like airdroid. So i suppose i need adb commands to copy files and i dont have so much experience in doing this.
Do you know how to use adb?You don't need adb I just wanted to know to see if it shows up there and not on computer you simply need to install the drivers.Try holding down all 3 buttons to see if it powers down. Do what it says http://www.technewscentral.co.uk/enter-fastbootbootloader-mode-htc-one/id_7930 if works go into fast boot. Does it say locked or unlocked. If unlocked go herehttps://github.com/koush/UniversalAdbDriver and get the windows installer if your on windows.
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I now found out how adb and fastboot are working, but the main problem now is, that it says the sdcard cant be mounted. I tried this tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25557817#post25850720 but i dont know how to do the first step. Du i need an extra file and where do i get it from and how to use it. As long as i dont get back this access, i couldnt install any OS. I tried also sideload. It was able to copy but cant install because of the missing sdcard access.
I hope you can help me to become my phone running again.
Go here http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xWmnHwkDrKk but first type adb devices in cmd. If it shows ur HTC type adb shell and and type mount sdcard next to the "#" once it appears although you should be using the fastboot shell not adb commands.adb should only work on a powered on device or you can use fast boot in cmd while phone is in fastboot not recovery(you did say the phone can go into fast boot right?). Just make sure you got the right drivers and both fast boot and adb. You should get Koush's Universal drivers from my previous post since some phones have multiple drivers and MAY cause problems with cmd. Also HTC one S doesn't have expandable storage correct?
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Wow. Now I incidentally soft bricked my phone again if you would believe it and nothing works this time.
Have you been able to fix?
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Okay, i forgot to write but adb and fastboot are working on my Mac. I use the Mac because Win 8.1 has the known driver problems.
I tried a lot now, but i recognized maybe the main problem. My phone is still S-ON in bootloader. For sure thats the problem. Do I need to get rid of it and how do I do. The tutorial i used hasn't mentioned this step, maybe the person was still S-OFF.
The first thing i try now is to flash the original recovery, lock the bootloader and execute the original signed RUU to get back the original software first. Im going on holiday on tuesday and it would be a pitty without the phone. When I get it working i will leave it, and thy it again, when I'm back. Otherwise.......****
Use this tutorialhttp://htc-one.wonderhowto.com/how-to/fix-soft-bricked-htc-one-by-flashing-new-rom-via-adb-0154361/unless its the one you used already. From boot loader you were supposed to have gone to fastboot.boot loader has to be unlocked.From fast boot you flash TWRP.IMG which happens to have a special adb side load feature under advanced options. There you upload another ROM and kernel.here is the full list of supported devices as I don't know what variant or carrier you havehttp://teamw.in/twrp_view_all_devicesAlso, a stock kernel is optional but it always seems to fix my problems.
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Thank you. But I already did it like this. The issue is, than after using sideload successfully the installation fails because of the known "unable to mount storage" text. And i don't know what to do wrong.
Like I already said, my phone is still S-ON, but can this make a difference?
Now i got it to bring the stock ROM running again, and as I'm on holiday for a few days I'm happy it is working again.
But one thing is left. It seems like there is no 3G/HSDPA connection now, only EDGE. I dont know what went wrong. Did you hear about this problem.
By the way, my phone is the standalone version whithout any provider.
Search the forums about edge only. There is a huge thread on this.