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Is anyone aware of a plain vanilla stock Android ROM that can be used with the Sensation 4G? Basically I am looking for the "pure" Android experience that comes on the G2, G2x, etc but without the bloatware and that is unlocked. I know there are a number of other ROM's out there that people will claim are better, but I am more than happy to start clean (and stable!) and add what I want. Any suggestions? As good as some of the other ROM's surely are, I would prefer one that came directly from Google and can basically guarantee all functionality will work. Thoughts?
There are none yet, at least none that are fully functional. i guess you will have to wait some more weeks.
senseless extreme is 2.3.4 AOSP with some sense features (like the dialer, the people and sms apps etc. but there's very little trace of sense on the rom). give it a go, i 've tried it myself, seems ok, and the dev keeps it up to date i guess. once CyanogenMod 7.1 's available for the Sensation go try it, it will be your best guess closest to aosp + tweaks. best roms out there imo.
I've just flashed Senseless Extreme and it's great
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I havent yet found a stock AOSP ROM, is anyone else aware of one that has been released?
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I havent yet found a stock AOSP ROM, is anyone else aware of one that has been released?
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are you serious? thats what theyve been saying this whole post... what you're looking for doesn't exist at the moment.
Yes I am serious. I has been almost three weeks since I created this post (and asked the question) and a lot can happen in that period of time.
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Yes I am serious. I has been almost three weeks since I created this post (and asked the question) and a lot can happen in that period of time.
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A lot can happen, yes. But asking the same damn question shows your lack of respect for this community by not putting in your own legwork first to try and and answer your question.
Had you done your own legwork (instead of asking us to do it for you), you would find that the same aosp build in progress hasn't changed on the user end, but it seems they're making a lot of progress. But it's still not ready yet (and no eta as to when due to kernel.org being hacked and all associated git repos being shut down until further notice).
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A lot can happen, yes. But asking the same damn question shows your lack of respect for this community by not putting in your own legwork first to try and and answer your question.
Had you done your own legwork (instead of asking us to do it for you), you would find that the same aosp build in progress hasn't changed on the user end, but it seems they're making a lot of progress. But it's still not ready yet (and no eta as to when due to kernel.org being hacked and all associated git repos being shut down until further notice).
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First, I am not asking the same question again. I simply replied to an existing thread checking for updates. Second, you clearly didnt read what I wrote or you decided to reply rudely anyway. I did the "legwork" and couldnt find an AOSP ROM on my own, so I wanted to see if anyone in this community was either working on one or was aware of one that hasnt yet gone mainstream.
The only thing that is an issue to me with these "senseless ROMS" is that when someone calls you, you must unlock the phone (with the stock android unlock screen) and only then can you click andswer phone. It is a limitation in all senseless or stock ROMS.
I too am waiting for Cyanogenmod
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The only thing that is an issue to me with these "senseless ROMS" is that when someone calls you, you must unlock the phone (with the stock android unlock screen) and only then can you click andswer phone. It is a limitation in all senseless or stock ROMS.
I too am waiting for Cyanogenmod
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Yeah, I have heard that (about senseless ROMs) from a number of people and thats why I am holding out for something better. Cyanogenmod should be good, but I figured a pure stock ROM would be released prior to that. I guess time will tell as to which comes first!
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senseless extreme is 2.3.4 AOSP with some sense features (like the dialer, the people and sms apps etc. but there's very little trace of sense on the rom). give it a go, i 've tried it myself, seems ok, and the dev keeps it up to date i guess. once CyanogenMod 7.1 's available for the Sensation go try it, it will be your best guess closest to aosp + tweaks. best roms out there imo.
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Senseless Extreme is not AOSP, but probably the closest we have to AOSP at present.
Hey guys,
My name is Josh. I am currently an active member over in the G2/Desire Z forums, however, I am now moving onto the MyTouch 4G Slide. I was recently offered one as a replacement for my G2 (as it has reached it's EoL.) I have read a lot of people saying not to make the change but I feel that it's time I move onto something with a faster cpu and more ram, plus, it's free. (I really want full sense 3.0 or Sense 3.5 like I am running on my G2) Now, the only thing I am regretting is that I will have to give up my lovely sense 3.5 and beats audio for a dulled down version of Sense 3.0. What I am getting to is... I want to learn as much as I can before my phone arrives on Monday and I would potentially like to move into the development world of the MT4GS. What is the status on current roms? I see that Unity works and that is exciting, however, I know it has many bugs. How can I work with you guys and the current devs to get this show on the road?
Read all the Blue6IX posts and guides.
His rom is outstanding!
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Well.... One of our *arguably* best next to kornyone(I can't say I agree or disagree because blue is doing amazing work) but definitely most active on here was banned for something xda felt worthy of a ban. . .
Anyways if you want to work with ALL the developers you'll want to talk to ZombieDog about working with him on Virtuous Unity fixed up.... He's working on giving all the problems.
He's over on the RootzWiki forums!
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Thanks guys for the responses, I CAN'T WAIT for unity. I already miss it on my G2 and I am still using it! Lol. Personally I would love to port the RCMix3D Sense 3.5 Runnymede rom. (What I have on my G2 now.) It is SO perfect and everything that I want in a rom.
I'll head on over to rootzwiki now. Thanks again for the info.
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Thanks guys for the responses, I CAN'T WAIT for unity. I already miss it on my G2 and I am still using it! Lol. Personally I would love to port the RCMix3D Sense 3.5 Runnymede rom. (What I have on my G2 now.) It is SO perfect and everything that I want in a rom.
I'll head on over to rootzwiki now. Thanks again for the info.
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No worries, you might check out zombie dogs sense roms as well as blue's bulletproof here. There both awesome, I'm debating whether or not to play around with it blue s
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Josh - can't wait until you get your device - you'll love it.
Eagerly looking forward to another developers works in support of this awesome piece of tech!
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Josh - can't wait until you get your device - you'll love it.
Eagerly looking forward to another developers works in support of this awesome piece of tech!
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I feel like its been said so much, and I'm one if the newer users of this device... patients is a virtue I guess.
Btw Josh: THIS GUYS AMAZING ^^^^^
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Another thing, since I am able to grab another few minutes to log in - you mentioned losing beats audio coming to this device.
I don't really know what it is, haven't read up on it or used it, but if you are interested in trying to port it to this device i'd be down for helping you do that.
That you have it, have it working on your current model phone and are familiar with it's use makes a world of difference - I know some people around here would love to see a project like that happen.
Feel free to get ahold of me if something like that interests you.
I'm happy to help with anything I can, so if you have any dev questions or want help getting oriented with the device once it's in your hands don't hesitate to ask - I'm sure you'll get up to speed on the particulars and quirks of the device pretty quickly either way.
Once ICS is ported back to the device, having devs interested in Sense is going to be important in my estimation - so I'm glad to see other people keeping it on their radar.
Check out Droidmoder's sticky at the top of the General section for a good reference to some of the threads you should read through.
Catch ya later
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Thanks guys for the responses, I CAN'T WAIT for unity. I already miss it on my G2 and I am still using it! Lol. Personally I would love to port the RCMix3D Sense 3.5 Runnymede rom. (What I have on my G2 now.) It is SO perfect and everything that I want in a rom.
I'll head on over to rootzwiki now. Thanks again for the info.
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Welcome! 3.5 sounds like a great thing to have!
Btw, is htc and tmo planning on releasing 3.5? I guess we would have seen a leaked beta already if so...
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Another thing, since I am able to grab another few minutes to log in - you mentioned losing beats audio coming to this device.
I don't really know what it is, haven't read up on it or used it, but if you are interested in trying to port it to this device i'd be down for helping you do that.
That you have it, have it working on your current model phone and are familiar with it's use makes a world of difference - I know some people around here would love to see a project like that happen.
Feel free to get ahold of me if something like that interests you.
I'm happy to help with anything I can, so if you have any dev questions or want help getting oriented with the device once it's in your hands don't hesitate to ask - I'm sure you'll get up to speed on the particulars and quirks of the device pretty quickly either way.
Once ICS is ported back to the device, having devs interested in Sense is going to be important in my estimation - so I'm glad to see other people keeping it on their radar.
Check out Droidmoder's sticky at the top of the General section for a good reference to some of the threads you should read through.
Catch ya later
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Heya Blue6ix,
Good too hear from ya! It's great that this post has gotten so many awesome responses. Once I get my device, I'll get it rooted right away and start getting familiar with it. As far as beats audio goes, have you ever heard of Beats by Dr. Dre? The Headphones. They're pretty expensive. Lol. Anyway, basically... the Sensation XL came with Sense 3.5 and audio software for enhancing the beats headphones that came with it. Over in the G2 forums, the beats audio has been ported back to Sense 3.0 and is stock in all of the 3.5 roms.
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Heya Blue6ix,
Good too hear from ya! It's great that this post has gotten so many awesome responses. Once I get my device, I'll get it rooted right away and start getting familiar with it. As far as beats audio goes, have you ever heard of Beats by Dr. Dre? The Headphones. They're pretty expensive. Lol. Anyway, basically... the Sensation XL came with Sense 3.5 and audio software for enhancing the beats headphones that came with it. Over in the G2 forums, the beats audio has been ported back to Sense 3.0 and is stock in all of the 3.5 roms.
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I don't know much about Beats - but I do know in the sensation forums they found the program code that tells the system the right headphones are plugged in, and figured out how to make it work for any headphones ... but that's pretty much all I know.
From what you are saying, it sounds like we could make this happen if there is interest in it. Not trying to push you into anything, but you said you were using it so it was something I thought worth mentioning.
I might actually recommend that you play with it for a few days before you root it - it's nice to know what it was like when it came stock, so you have an idea of what you are trying to keep and not.
If you want to dive into AOSP and focus on that, it doesn't matter what it came with - but if you want to develop stuff for Sense... the MySense that's on this device isn't really like other versions of Sense. Might wanna just have an idea of what it was like and what you want to change.
Take care, i'll be diving back into developing stuff tonight and don't forsee any other big breaks like yesterday and today in the near future.
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Thanks guys for the responses, I CAN'T WAIT for unity. I already miss it on my G2 and I am still using it! Lol. Personally I would love to port the RCMix3D Sense 3.5 Runnymede rom. (What I have on my G2 now.) It is SO perfect and everything that I want in a rom.
I'll head on over to rootzwiki now. Thanks again for the info.
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Well we need someone to make a compatible Kernel...i think someone already had the ROM but without a compatible Kernel it won't boot...as much as Blue has been bowed he has done nothing much but change the dulled sense ROM...Undead does have a ICS hybrid and an AOSP....and Kornyone has an Alpha of CM7 but never released any fixes or stable kernel...I personally regret getting the slide...I was hoping I could of gotten the Sensation on my latest warranty exchange...there is just not much happening here...it's sad....it appears the physical keyboard phones are all DOA anymore in the dev world.
*ps* and I am in no way doubting any devs ability....just mostly what we have is either buggy or nothing much more than themed mysense....:
Lol - that is mostly accurate.
Short of tracing back ip addresses and showing up at someone's house to chain them to a computer until they produce something instead of just consuming... I don't know what else I can do to encourage people to dev for the device past documenting what I'm doing and how.
That's why I am excited to see someone else coming in with the intention of making something.
There is a lot more happening in Bulletproof then simple theming, though graphics is something I am spending time on at the moment.
I downloaded the 4.0.3 ICS release yesterday, as I'm sure a lot of others have as well. I don't intend to port it to this device at this time, but I am looking through the source code to familiarize myself with it.
I just am not interested in losing tv-out, the biggest problem with any AOSP build on this device.
I don't quite understand how a community built and maintained by developers has so many people with this device but no one really releasing anything - every time I log in the first thing I do is check the dev section to see if some crazy software package was released that wasn't talked about until release day.
The hardware that this device has is pretty impressive, the capabilities it offers are equally so, and as we keep making it faster and more efficient someone else will throw their hat in the ring... as the OP is intending .o
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Lol - that is mostly accurate.
Short of tracing back ip addresses and showing up at someone's house to chain them to a computer until they produce something instead of just consuming... I don't know what else I can do to encourage people to dev for the device past documenting what I'm doing and how.
That's why I am excited to see someone else coming in with the intention of making something.
There is a lot more happening in Bulletproof then simple theming, though graphics is something I am spending time on at the moment.
I downloaded the 4.0.3 ICS release yesterday, as I'm sure a lot of others have as well. I don't intend to port it to this device at this time, but I am looking through the source code to familiarize myself with it.
I just am not interested in losing tv-out, the biggest problem with any AOSP build on this device.
I don't quite understand how a community built and maintained by developers has so many people with this device but no one really releasing anything - every time I log in the first thing I do is check the dev section to see if some crazy software package was released that wasn't talked about until release day.
The hardware that this device has is pretty impressive, the capabilities it offers are equally so, and as we keep making it faster and more efficient someone else will throw their hat in the ring... as the OP is intending .o
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Honestly Blue my guess is there are very few who can figure out the kernel side of dual core....without new functioning kernels there is not much that can be done here....i know there has been 2 sense 3.5 roms die for the same reason...well if you count Afinity 3....there is no compatible kernel....in fact the ONLY semi close to stable kernel is stock....wow who would of thought in a real of devs that would be the truth of things...if we had some actual coders here that could build a kernel we could see...3.5, real stable cm7 and possibly speed up cm9...MIUI (although why someone wants to turn their Android to an Iphone escapes me....maybe we all need to work on Kernel development....my mind is a little to straight forward to code fault tolerances and such...such...but I really think this is the major hold back here....do you agree Blue?...
I honestly hadn't read that far into it all.
I am taking my time trying to reach a community consensus on Bulletproof being bug free, stable and fast so I can get back into building kernels - I am trying to methodically answer everyone's call for overclock and undervolt before moving on to fix some things I feel are more important with kernel code.
Bulletproof is very specifically being designed as a shell to test kernels in, anything else people find use for it is just a bonus.
Is a lack of stable, working kernels really the issue?
I've already compiled a few kernels over the last 3 weeks and have been doing some general testing on my end privately - do you and others feel my time would be better spent focusing on that more fully, instead of trying to write tutorials on how to dev ROM stuff?
I could have Bulletproof ready for preliminary testing by mid-week and probably start pumping out the series of overclock kernels I described a while ago in Roman's kernel thread by next weekend.
If others are willing to sit down to build and support ROMs, I could drop everything else and focus on supplying kernels ( at the expense of as-yet unwritten tutorials).
I said before, and still am interested in working with other devs to supply them with kernels.
If splitting the load and me doing that while others handled the ROM side of it will speed up or increase development for the device, I'm down.
I never had any real-life computer friends, half the people I call friend off-line don't even own a computer, so my whole life if I wanted something to happen I had to do it myself or it didn't happen. I am equally capable of doing just about any aspect of dev, the pieces I'm missing I pick up quick because of my general range of knowledge.
I thought hammering out a stable ROM was where I should be focusing my attention, so I've been taking my time to do so. You can track my dev work on this phone all the way back, starting with the app reference...into the GPS work...and so on forward as doing what was needed most at the time.
If focusing my time on writing kernels and supplying other devs with working, stable kernels cooked up on a request basis for functionality will allow other devs to produce ROM choices - I'll be happy to do so.
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Don't mean to hijack your thread, Daiskei, but I suppose this does help and tie in to your announcement of coming over here to dev with/for us.
I am not familiar with your work, am new to Android, and the MT4GS is my first smart phone ( second device ). Would me focusing more fully on kernels allow you to spend time developing ROMs?
Help me help you, how can we work best together to accomplish more in less time?
I prefer quality to speed - but efficiency increases speed without a reduction in quality.
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The one problem with kernel development is you can't decompile it and see how it works or what's been done - so you basically have to know what you are doing and start from scratch. That's why we had to wait for source from HTC.
I can handle this side of it if that's what's needed, I can manage the complicated task of dual core, and am willing to work with anyone who wants to build on it.
The idea of working pretty strictly on kernels appeals to me - so let me know and that's what I'll do.
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The one problem with kernel development is you can't decompile it and see how it works or what's been done - so you basically have to know what you are doing and start from scratch. That's why we had to wait for source from HTC.
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Actually, I think the biggest problem with kernel development is you can't really test it unless it's on a device. Or, at least, that's my opinion.
If you're talking about building the stock linux kernel, it's very easy to build one and test it on a PC. If something goes wrong, it's pretty easy to grab the physical hardware and see where the fault lies. It's just not as easy to pull a HD and look at logs on a phone.
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Actually, I think the biggest problem with kernel development is you can't really test it unless it's on a device. Or, at least, that's my opinion.
If you're talking about building the stock linux kernel, it's very easy to build one and test it on a PC. If something goes wrong, it's pretty easy to grab the physical hardware and see where the fault lies. It's just not as easy to pull a HD and look at logs on a phone.
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Touche -
Assuming one has a device, though, they basically have to start with HTC kernel source and work up from there - you would have to edit in your own changes.
The only other option would be to find a repo to sync with where someone has built a kernel for the device and uploaded their changes pre-compile. I don't know anyone who has a public repo with modified kernel sources for this device specifically.
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The idea of working pretty strictly on kernels appeals to me - so let me know and that's what I'll do.
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That's honestly what we need IMHO. You can do whatever possible to a ROM, until out device has a nice kernel for it, the roms will all be virtually the same.
With the right kernel on my mt4g I could pull 30 hours of stock battery use. Still stock clock, it's just coded right. Thanks to TheDerekJay. You should pm him I'm sure he'll be glad to assist any question you might have... He's simply AMAZING
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Thanks, that's helpful.
I know enough where the learning curve isn't too steep, I can compile and have working kernels when i'm done & have previous CPU clock experience and worked with dual-core theory in the past - but i'm picking it all up as I go.
So far people have been happy with what i've been submitting for public consumption, confirming my progress in learning Android, but like I said - picking it all up as I go so any resources or people willing to help or offer advice are always welcome.
I'll track that dev down once I get my focus brought around to kernels and that becomes my life, so I can actually make use of any help he may be willing to give and not waste his time with frivolous or easily answered questions.
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I just doubled the RAM in my laptop a few days ago. It's about two years old, but when I bought it I bought a second stick of RAM I never added to it. I figured i'd use it until it really needed it, but now that i've been compiling things on it the more the merrier - been having some issues with it that have evaporated since I did that a few days ago.
I was gearing up for kernels anyway, but now i'm thinking i'll make that my primary focus and let all else mostly fall to the wayside except supporting any problems that crop up in my ROM.
Looks like tonight is going to be all math review and C coding refreshment.
I really can't wait to see Kernel from you, I know you'll do it right which is the best part
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anyone still on cm7, passing on all current ICS roms, and waiting for CM9?
I've been using CM7 since it came out. I flashed virt. quatto just to see what ICS looks like, then went back to CM7.
post here if you are like me!
ive been waiting for a stable CM7 on the sensation for over a year now... CM7 alpha10 is pretty close but still not a daily driver.. i dont see a stable CM9 on our phones within the next year.. there are some good AOSP ICS roms though like Virtuous Inquisition which will have to do for now. ever since Samsung hired Cyanogen, you pretty much need a Samsung phone (Galaxy Nexus) for good CM support
the only reason i am using a Sensation right now is because it is the only high end phone (dual core) that supports my $5/mo tzones plan, else I would probably have a Galaxy S2 or the Nexus right now since i much prefer CyanogenMod
I'm in same situation
several past phones (Desire GSM, Atrix 4G) and current Pyramid are on CM7.1
I use Automatic Backlight feature, it's absent in other ROMs, I like Dialer and Contacts in CM.
Tried multiple ICS ROMs but I am unable to use them. Cannot remove contact's pictures from contact list (I don't use concact pictures at all), no adjustable automatic backlight, Volume rocker Wake and so on.
I do not use Google Account at all, all programs I install manually after flashing ROM. No market app, no Gmail, no GTalk. No Sence.
CM is the best for me
I have many phones flashed to CM7.1 and tried the alpha 10 for sensation too. But there are many lacks (e.g. reboot when recording video, battery after 10 hours down to 20%) so I went back and waiting for CM9.
This is my own opinion, I don't believe well even get an alpha build of any kind from kmobs at this point of development even in the next year or two years. I asked him about it an he said he was compiling it at that time.
It tells me a lot by that response from him. That he is a perfectionist that want to do everything by himself an I'm pretty sure that he's gotten help by cm team. And that since he got a GN and amaze he may be too busy to focus on sensation. He said he isn't working on those two but I mean if you had to pick between those two and sensation I might pick them.
The best way to get fixes is by yes providing him log cats towards certain issues but at the same time having the source helps so it can pinpoint the source of the issue in the build.
Many devices have already been merged and I think one or two were made after the sensation was released. Whether its fair or not he has the most updated source for pyramid and we as the people only have nothing but watch and wait
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and we will be slowly insane cause nothing happens. But I've read a few days ago in a post, there are two developers?
I'm still on CM7 and it's not looking good for CM9:
https://plus.google.com/113702637309752822154/posts/DkmD4rUQJ66
I know we're not paying him or anything, but why can't he at least give us an update instead of these "mystery" posts?
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I'm in same situation
several past phones (Desire GSM, Atrix 4G) and current Pyramid are on CM7.1
I use Automatic Backlight feature, it's absent in other ROMs, I like Dialer and Contacts in CM.
Tried multiple ICS ROMs but I am unable to use them. Cannot remove contact's pictures from contact list (I don't use concact pictures at all), no adjustable automatic backlight, Volume rocker Wake and so on.
I do not use Google Account at all, all programs I install manually after flashing ROM. No market app, no Gmail, no GTalk. No Sence.
CM is the best for me
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WOW dude no google account? That sucks because if you had one you could easily edit or delete your contact info by signing into google from your computer. You do know that android is google right? I think you would be much happier with a flip phone.
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This is my own opinion, I don't believe well even get an alpha build of any kind from kmobs at this point of development even in the next year or two years. I asked him about it an he said he was compiling it at that time.
It tells me a lot by that response from him. That he is a perfectionist that want to do everything by himself an I'm pretty sure that he's gotten help by cm team. And that since he got a GN and amaze he may be too busy to focus on sensation. He said he isn't working on those two but I mean if you had to pick between those two and sensation I might pick them.
The best way to get fixes is by yes providing him log cats towards certain issues but at the same time having the source helps so it can pinpoint the source of the issue in the build.
Many devices have already been merged and I think one or two were made after the sensation was released. Whether its fair or not he has the most updated source for pyramid and we as the people only have nothing but watch and wait
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I agree. Kmobs is still a kid afterall. Hes in school and needs to focus on college if you ask me. He bought a GN for $500.00 out of pocket despite telling us how great his sensation was running his build of ICS. Even though it is his money, its pretty irresponsible for a college student to do. Needing a new phone is one thing, but wanting something newer to play with is another.
I dont think it will take a year to get CM9 to the sensation, as I feel Kmobs will eventually turn over what he has done to someone else on the CM team and they will finish it for us. All his G+ posts seem to focus on the fun he is having with his GN.
Yea its free, but it would be nice of him to turn over what he has to another respected developer in the spirit of open source and all...If he hasnt got the time for CM9, then maybe someone else does. Keep in mind, CM is thinking about starting a for profit marketplace. It would be good business to get CM9 out for the maximum number of phones if they want the maximum number of customers. The sensation might not be all that popular though...
Maybe someone from the CM team could speak to him about turning over the project?
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I agree. Kmobs is still a kid afterall. Hes in school and needs to focus on college if you ask me. He bought a GN for $500.00 out of pocket despite telling us how great his sensation was running his build of ICS. Even though it is his money, its pretty irresponsible for a college student to do. Needing a new phone is one thing, but wanting something newer to play with is another.
I dont think it will take a year to get CM9 to the sensation, as I feel Kmobs will eventually turn over what he has done to someone else on the CM team and they will finish it for us. All his G+ posts seem to focus on the fun he is having with his GN.
Yea its free, but it would be nice of him to turn over what he has to another respected developer in the spirit of open source and all...If he hasnt got the time for CM9, then maybe someone else does. Keep in mind, CM is thinking about starting a for profit marketplace. It would be good business to get CM9 out for the maximum number of phones if they want the maximum number of customers. The sensation might not be all that popular though...
Maybe someone from the CM team could speak to him about turning over the project?
Matt
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after today I don't think I will go back to cm7 again. I have been running vi all this month and currently on v3.0.0 and it will do until something better comes out.
yes, I do believe knob abandoned our phone and do not expect any release from him. January is almost over and we are left in the dark. The promise I made to myself is never to get a non nexus phone again. I will just wait a little bit to see if they release the 32gig GSM version.
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Just switch to an ICS rom in the meanwhile. I reccomend Virtuous Quadratto.
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Im using Virtuous Quattro Alpha3 4.0.3. Any im receiving tiny mms pics. Is their a fix?
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anyone still on cm7, passing on all current ICS roms, and waiting for CM9?
I've been using CM7 since it came out. I flashed virt. quatto just to see what ICS looks like, then went back to CM7.
post here if you are like me!
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I am like you!
I use HyperSensation with Launcher Pro.
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Im using Virtuous Quattro Alpha3 4.0.3. Any im receiving tiny mms pics. Is their a fix?
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Off Topic. Thread title is "anyone still on cm7, waiting for cm9? passing on all current ICS roms"
I could personally care less about CM9. I am running CM7 now and it works fine. I considered flashing an ICS ROM but they all suck right now. Personally if there was a pure vanilla Android ROM (Gingerbread or ICS) I would run that. If CM9 is the closest I will get to AOSP ICS then I guess I will use that whenever (if??) a stable release ever comes out for the Sensation. To be honest I might even be using a Nexus by that time since development for the Sensation is basically dead.
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I could personally care less about CM9. I am running CM7 now and it works fine. I considered flashing an ICS ROM but they all suck right now. Personally if there was a pure vanilla Android ROM (Gingerbread or ICS) I would run that. If CM9 is the closest I will get to AOSP ICS then I guess I will use that whenever (if??) a stable release ever comes out for the Sensation. To be honest I might even be using a Nexus by that time since development for the Sensation is basically dead.
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I counted seven flavours of Sensation ICS ROMs discussed and most are available somewhere online. Only the kmobs 'official' CM9 seems to be lost this year.
On Rootzwiki I asked if the following list was up to date. Here it is. Some exist and some are not, but all are Sensation-specific ROMs in development or possible development.
Will we get up to TEN 'unique' Sensation ROMs soon?
1. TripNRaver already has released three betas of his AOSP ROM for Sensation, over at Modaco.
2. HTC Leaked ICS ROM. Lots of tuning and updates of the major 'brands' of Sensation ROMs at XDA Sensation Developers forum, for 4.03 ICS and Sense 4.0 leak.
3. Virtuous Quattro (AOSP) ported to Sensation at XDA Developers forum.
4. MIUI developer petitioned to release a Sensation ICS MIUI (250+ votes for it). 新年快樂 !
5. TripNRaVer previously mentioned he could do an ICS MIUI port once the CM9 Sensation ROM was working.
6. TripNRaVer yesterday released his own CM9 beta ROM for Sensation.
7. Cyanogenmod 9 team (Keyan Mobli aka kmobs, others?) may be still developing the CM9 ROM, unless there has been any announcement otherwise. No recent news in 2012, though.
8. ? Anyone have another ROM for Sensation that's not a variant of or based on one of the above?
9. ?
10. ?
TripNRaver released a beta CM9 over at MoDaCo, fyi.
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I counted seven flavours of Sensation ICS ROMs discussed and most are available somewhere online.
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There are only four "distinct" ICS ROMs available. Trips CM9 leak, the two Virtuous builds, and MAYBE Android Revolution. Everything else is just a themed version of one of the above.
yup still waiting. most ics AOSP roms arent fully stable.
havent seen this posted yet so im copy and pasting from rootwiki ORIGINALLY POSTED BY jimmyco2008
Hey all,
So I've been working on a site (which went live earlier today) to serve as a repository for ROMs, kernels, recoveries, things like that, and even news- Mecha Centre.
I've noticed that the Thunderbolt community is dying a bit, not only because of the age of the Thunderbolt, but because of the whole RIL Ice Cream Sandwich fiasco which suggests that Thunderbolt development is dead without HTC's releasing updates.
I've created this site to help revive/keep the community of devs and users alive, as well as to make it easier to locate ROMs and other files one may need for their Thunderbolt.
We're still working on the site, but we already have some live links and news, and I encourage everyone to check it out! We try to keep ROM files so as to avert the dreaded 404 dead link, and our goal is to update often and keep up with the developers and their ROM releases.
You can find out more about this project at MechaCentre.tk and contact us with any questions, comments, suggestions, etc. via [email protected].
Thanks guys! Long live Thunderbolt!
ugh... this doesn't belong in the development section, you didn't share anything you developed in this thread. also, jimmyco posted a thread in thunderbolt general here about his site already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1787467
*Thunderbolt 4G*
RIL = Release it Late? I really have no idea what happened to shutdown development, but I keep seeing RIL all over every thread asking about it.
Shadow Death said:
RIL = Release it Late? I really have no idea what happened to shutdown development, but I keep seeing RIL all over every thread asking about it.
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RIL= radio interface layer... it is needed to get working data in ICS for this phone. development has slowed because developers have already created a ton of gingerbread roms and because it has proven extremely difficult to reverse engineer the ICS RIL without source. the RIL wasn't part of the source HTC published for gingerbread, but will be part of the ICS source... it'll give devs a base to start from in getting AOSP data for ICS anyway...
*Thunderbolt 4G*
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ugh... this doesn't belong in the development section, you didn't share anything you developed in this thread. also, jimmyco posted a thread in thunderbolt general here about his site already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1787467
*Thunderbolt 4G*
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Wait a minute.....whats that sound??.....I hear banjo's
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RIL= radio interface layer... it is needed to get working data in ICS for this phone. development has slowed because developers have already created a ton of gingerbread roms and because it has proven extremely difficult to reverse engineer the ICS RIL without source. the RIL wasn't part of the source HTC published for gingerbread, but will be part of the ICS source... it'll give devs a base to start from in getting AOSP data for ICS anyway...
*Thunderbolt 4G*
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Thank you for clearing that up. I have been trying to piece together what I've read here on the forums without having to start a thread. To be honest, if they would release the RIL development would pick up again. I think they need to look at Samsung's idea and reconsider their marketing strategy. The NS4G is over a year old now and the development is booming for them. The second the jb source released people were cranking out roms.
I love this phone but I'm not exactly crazy about the lack of encouragement HTC gives you developers.
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yeah... HTC will never release just the RIL, it's proprietary software. though i much prefer HTC products to samsung's, HTC is notorious for their questionable interpretation of GPLv2 where they feel they can wait 90-120 days after a release to publish source, even though no time period is stipulated and samsung releases source before, alongside, or shortly after their releases.
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You know, when the sdk for ICS released someone had managed to modify the rom built from the sdk to run on a 2.3.7 kernel on the NS4G. I wonder if a similar path would be possible with the RIL from the current AOSP roms for this phone. I have no idea how Android is structured so as far as I know I may just be blowing smoke with that idea.
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You know, when the sdk for ICS released someone had managed to modify the rom built from the sdk to run on a 2.3.7 kernel on the NS4G. I wonder if a similar path would be possible with the RIL from the current AOSP roms for this phone. I have no idea how Android is structured so as far as I know I may just be blowing smoke with that idea.
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Unfortunately getting the kernel to work with ics is relatively easy. Not much changed in the function of the kernel from gb to ics so only a little modification can make it work. The ril on the other hand requires much more modifications because the framework is tied in with the ril. Plus there are other factors that i cant explain that determine whether the rril will work.
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Wait a minute.....whats that sound??.....I hear banjo's
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if it's banjos, it's dueling banjos! lol
Hey.
I've been on jb roms since they came out for desire s and have been using ics before that. However... ics roms have been in beta stage since ever and have not really advanced in terms of having stable or even working main functions. Well this is because of the fact that our devs did not have kernel sources. There have been words that kernel source release would solve all our major issues like front cam and others. But kernel source has been released and I'm seeing a decline in our forum's traffic and in development. I know i's partly due to many original members leaving. But I also hear that devs are facing difficulty in making the kernel. So I want to ask, will we ever have fully stable ics or jb roms or is this not a possibility?
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Sorry for the tone, but this is a pretty pointless thread (IMO) there are already several others in a similar vein that exist and as we don't have a time machine and can't see into the future....although speculation appears to what the majority of threads contains these days....
This is now unfortunately an old device and as you rightly pointed out lots of the forums previous users have moved on to bigger and better new devices so the forum traffic was always bound to fall. We still have several devs that are developing for this device so don't do them a dis-service by suggesting that no progress has been made. Just look at the CM, AKOP and JB source build threads for examples.....
Since the release of the kernel source - progress has certainly been made, just look at the tweaked kernel we can now use, in which we are now able to UV & OC not to mention that the wifi tether issues are now resolved... everything takes time, so be patient....or learn to code yourself and help out!
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Sorry for the tone, but this is a pretty pointless thread (IMO) there are already several others in a similar vein that exist and as we don't have a time machine and can't see into the future....although speculation appears to what the majority of threads contains these days....
This is now unfortunately an old device and as you rightly pointed out lots of the forums previous users have moved on to bigger and better new devices so the forum traffic was always bound to fall. We still have several devs that are developing for this device so don't do them a dis-service by suggesting that no progress has been made. Just look at the CM and AKOP threads for examples.....
Since the release of the kernel source - progress has certainly been made, just look at the tweaked kernel we can now use, in which we are now able to UV & OC not to mention that the wifi tether issues are now resolved... everything takes time, so be patient....or learn to code yourself and help out!
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I fully understand the devs' hard work and their dedications. That's not what this thread is asking. It seems to many devs that they are still having a hard time adjusting ics and jb to our device even upon kernel source release. Despite the prior speculation that things would be much easier with kernel source. So I was bringing the problem forth to see if it is possible for us to have stable ics or jb roms. No need to be all defensive. Just want an objective discussion
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custom roms are rearly FULLY stable. there is always a little bug here and there. but since the release of the official ICS and the latest kernel source ICS roms are getting mature at last. and if you're still not satisfied, wait a month more. or flash the official ICS and have a really stable rom now.
JB is another story. there is no native kernel source for it and i doubt there will ever be.
I totally see where you are both coming from. The kernel source was released over a fortnight ago.
I agree with Ben, in respect we should appreciate what the current devs have given us etc etc,
But I also agree with skim, I am quite surprised that with the kernel source released, AOSP still hasn't got a functional kernel based on our Saga build. (Andromadus is using a kernel port)
I was hoping for at least ICS AOSP to be working by now, but I guess that is not the case
The forums have certainly gone a lot quieter now, and I suspect by the end of the year, even more of us will leave
But back to the original point, I wish that things could pick up like they were this time last year, but sadly that will never happen.
I have no intentions of insulting any devs, I truly appreciate the work they have provided us, and I haven't contributed anything particularly useful, so I am in no position to do so, but this is just how I feel.
When I look through forums like the S2, I envy the development... even after a year, ROMs are still on full scale, with so many choices to choose from...
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Unfortunately Oly I don't think that you can compare the DS to the SGS2. We unfortunately were never a main stream device (like the SGS2), we sadly missed the boat, with the Sensation coming out shortly after our release, I reckon that the focus went from DHD to Sensation and the limelight never really shone on us long enough to get a main stream following.
The Samsung onslaught appears to unbeatable currently sadly even the One series hasn't really made a dent.
We must all accept the inevitable that our device (Desire S) is by fact outdated with the phase of how fast mobile technology comes. That said, sooner or later, our thread will surely die.
It is with great appreciation that our devs are prolonging the inevitable. Most will surely be having new devices comes these coming months. I too will be leaving the scene as a new device is surely coming at hand in two months time.
Everything in our life changes. One must be oblige to flow with it. If not, one will be left alone and at lost.
P.S.
For an answer for the OP. THERE WILL BE a stable JB/ICS ROM as long as a dev will be willing to still work on it. If not, then THERE WILL BE NOT.
Long answer short: we will never know unless there will be one.
Moral of this post: learn to accept the truth that you have to move on to a new device if you really want to have a stable up-to-date ROM, even past JB.
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Well, that was philosophical!
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Skanob said:
We must all accept the inevitable that our device (Desire S) is by fact outdated with the phase of how fast mobile technology comes. That said, sooner or later, our thread will surely die.
It is with great appreciation that our devs are prolonging the inevitable. Most will surely be having new devices comes these coming months. I too will be leaving the scene as a new device is surely coming at hand in two months time.
Everything in our life changes. One must be oblige to flow with it. If not, one will be left alone and at lost.
P.S.
For an answer for the OP. THERE WILL BE a stable JB/ICS ROM as long as a dev will be willing to still work on it. If not, then THERE WILL BE NOT.
Long answer short: we will never know unless there will be one.
Moral of this post: learn to accept the truth that you have to move on to a new device if you really want to have a stable up-to-date ROM, even past JB.
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Haha I don't know about you man... but I'm a student and learning to move on to a new device is not as easy as it sounds. I'm stuck with a contract until next April. So ill be sticking around here till then xD
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I think custom roms have advantages, but it's not easy for the devs to make them perfect.
If i compare the stock ROM of x10mini/pro with custom cm6/7 ROM, the stock ROM sucks...
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I think custom roms have advantages, but it's not easy for the devs to make them perfect.
If i compare the stock ROM of x10mini/pro with custom cm6/7 ROM, the stock ROM sucks...
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htc stock rom ( sense ) , indeed, the best stock of all android. I've been using samsung, motorola and sony, but nothing is better than sense.
anazhd said:
htc stock rom ( sense ) , indeed, the best stock of all android. I've been using samsung, motorola and sony, but nothing is better than sense.
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At the moment i'm using stock rom (sense) too, cause my prefered custom rom has still a problem with battery drain...
As soon this is fixed, i'll go to ICS DS again...
But at all, the ICS stock rom is working very nice...
Fallout v4.4.0 is pretty stable to me, been using since a while now.
Tonight i'll try Fallout 5.0, let's see how it is... :highfive:
MIUI 2.8.x or 2.9.x
I recently flashed MIUI 2.8.17 and its been a joyful ride! It is very very stable. I had to reboot only once so far and that is an intermittent bug. BT/WiFi/Tethering/Camera etc. etc. everything works! (hard to find that in an ICS ROM)! Its my daily ROM now.. :good:
Fallout 5.0
I got myself S-off and rooted 2 days ago.
The first custom rom Ive tried is Fallout 5.0. Only one day into my test and it's very stable and fast compared to stock gingerbread.
I'm very pleased with it so far :good:
anazhd said:
htc stock rom ( sense ) , indeed, the best stock of all android. I've been using samsung, motorola and sony, but nothing is better than sense.
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My Gingerbread stock rom experience made me root my phone. I kept getting the white screen with the green HTC logo and no matter what I did it always came back. I have now tried out about 5 or 6 custom roms and this issue no longer appears. Of course there are other issues, some of which are serious. But there are ROMs which are in general more than good enough for day to day usage. I currently use ICE-DSv5 but for example Fallout v4.4 is stable (v5 is not stable for me but it is for a lot of people).
If you are interested you can look at my other thread here called "My First Rooted Phone" for an overview of my experiences so far.
Blindbean and Codename are great JB roms, not fully stable, but good to work with.
Yes. I flash every recent roms so I know how they are. I started this thread to get an idea of if it is possible to have a stable rom. The devs have been struggling with major bugs since early this year and we're still stuck with the same bugs we had prior to the release of the kernel sources. I do know it is a difficult process. But wanted an answer from a dev. Is it possible for us to have working front cam, proper video playback, etc. ? This isn't complaining btw just wanted an answer other than "be patient. Be thankful. It's good enough"
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if you want stable flash rooted stock. it has everything you mentioned. combine it with tweaked kernel and you have even more...