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I bought a Transformer yesterday, and I have some pretty severe backlight bleed. I'm either going to exchange or return it tonight.
I understand that people with problems with their device will be much more vocal than people who haven't run into any issues, but the number of posts I've seen talking about display or speaker issues is kind of worrying me, especially when I can go to the Thrive forum and see zero or near zero topics about hardware issues. Does anyone here have a Transformer with no problems? Or do they all have some issue and should I look at a different tablet?
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No issues whatsoever with mine, although I haven't actually went looking for light bleed. Certainly, I've not noticed it in normal use, which is the only place it would bother me.
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I bought a Transformer yesterday, and I have some pretty severe backlight bleed. I'm either going to exchange or return it tonight.
I understand that people with problems with their device will be much more vocal than people who haven't run into any issues, but the number of posts I've seen talking about display or speaker issues is kind of worrying me, especially when I can go to the Thrive forum and see zero or near zero topics about hardware issues. Does anyone here have a Transformer with no problems? Or do they all have some issue and should I look at a different tablet?
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I have small light-bleed but it's only visible on a completely black screen with the brightness turned right up and the lights in the room switched off. That's not my normal use case so it doesn't bother me.
I have my Transformer since 2 months now. The hardware is perfect, there is no Lightbleed, no cracking, no dust under the screen and the speakers are o.k. One little problem is Honeycomb, it is not so good as it could be but its getting better with every update. Rooting was no problem and there are no issues when flashing other roms. Last week i bought the dock and there is also nothing wrong with it.
I am very happy with my new Transformer and dont whant to be without it anymore.
Asus Transformer: B5O
Dock: B6O
Sorry for my bad english i am from Austria
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i Have light bleed over the charging port..but that's insignificant ..but my volume rocker JUST got stuck like 20 min ago..already put my RMA with asus..out side of that..it's no issues
Haven't got any problems, though i haven't taken my transformer into a darkroom with a dark jpeg and turned the brightness up to test it!!!!!
A big believer in realism!
My wifi works perfectly
ADW EX works perfectly
Opera Browser works perfectly
But i also don't believe in new automatically equals better, so i haven't installed 3.2.
Wouldn't no about browser typing lag, as i'm the slowest freakin typist ever
I've had no issues with my tablet.
I have just RMAd the dock, as it was a B50 and had the power drain issue, but the tablet on it's own has been great.
very minimal light bleed, but nothing major.
Out of curiosity, hows the ROM dev over with the Thrive? Im wondering if there is more development over there than there is with the TF..
And if so, if having several Roms/mods to play with, keep user more content; So much so, that they overlook minor details..
Maybe were just bored over here in TF world
I have a b60 transformer and keyboard dock and I am very happy with all. I had a small spec of plastic in the screen, flicked screen with my finger and now it has gone and never returned.
Not seen any light bleed and have no problems with build quality.
I only had the creak before, until I learned to look for the light bleed in the dark. It's not that bad, but it feels horrible when you look for it,
Certainly not me ;-) After 5 weeks trying to find a tablet and dock to actually purchase, I bought the only one I could find - a 32 GB version. Why the heck I didn't just give up and wait for the next generation, I'll never know.
Significant light bleed but that doesn't really bother me. But then I discovered the dock battery draining issue with my turned off tablet and that really started to bother me. Then the volume up key on the tablet stopped working and that kind of annoyed me. Then the charger stopped charging both the dock and the tablet and that was end of my using it altogether ... except that somehow the charger started working again on the tablet (and not the dock) so I could use it again. But now it's stopped charging the tablet once again.
I know I have to RMA this ****. Still have to find the receipts and packaging. Maybe I can ship it along with my Asus P8P67 Deluxe motherboard which never worked right from day 1 and has caused me endless grief. Yeah, Asus is pretty much my least favourite company right now...
I love my transformer.
There was some light bleeding at the bottom by the buttons but for some reason the other day it vanished. I have installed the Asus case that has the tapered edge and flap. Maybe the pressure is fixing it.
That with Prime 1.6, the thing is a beast. I'm out of town for work over the next 2 weeks. No reboots or weirdness. I have my PC laptop and my LG G2x setup with wifi sharing so my TF is grabbing internet from one of those devices.
It just works so good I'm afraid to flash it to a 3.2 rom.
I found thumb keyboard better over SwiftKey X and I'm flying. The Office suite allows me to check all my work related documents on the go and has been a lifesaver.
Asus Transformer 3.1 pwnd
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Minor issues...
I have a little bit of light bleed, but it's only noticeable on black backgrounds, with dim ambient light, at certain angles. The speakers aren't as loud as I'd like, but I don't see how speakers that small could be louder. Overall I'm very pleased with mine, especially considering it's what, half as thick as the Thrive?
Not half as thick, but it does feel a lot thinner. It's because Asus designed the tablet to slant from thick (in the center) to thin (in the edge). It's so pretty .
I have problems with the tf, and not only with one unit, because now I am using the third unit (replaced the two previous).
The first was countinually rebooting when suspended (may be software, but used a nandroid of it with the second and no problem)
The second has light bleed and the upper part of the touch screen was bad.
With the third unit has sound balance problem, but I can live with it.
Conclusion
The quality control is bad, but I like this tablet.
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No issues, I haven't really looked to see if I could find light bleed, but I love this thing
on my second tf
my first one quit charging after 4 days. No keyboard dock.
The one I have now has more light bleed than my first one. That one was a B60, current one is a B50.
No issues to report, although I have not checked on the battery drain issue with the dock (B5O). Still I really like this tablet and use it for work.
No problem here. Running Prime 1.7
Just checked for light leak. took a picture in a black room with brightness all the way up and on the left lower side i noticed it.
been mashing the power and volume buttons all day to see if i can break it(still within 30 days). No issues yet.
b60 purchased last week
I returned a TF700 and replace a order again on Amazon
I just got my TF700 and the first things I do is press the screen down to see if there is a clicking sound or loosen screen problem.
Thank god it doesn't have such problems
Then I turn it on and check for light bleeding. Well, there is a light bleeding spot on the left corner, but not obvious and won't be notice under normal use.
The rest of the TF700 are fine.
Now I am waiting for the case and screen flim.
I am not going to use it until the case arrive, last time I drop it from around 5~8cm height and the corner just blend and the screen pop out. I cannot believe how weak the structure is (Absolutely much weaker than the ipad!)
Hope the case could give some protection.
Waiting for JB now
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I returned a TF700 and replace a order again on Amazon
I just got my TF700 and the first things I do is press the screen down to see if there is a clicking sound or loosen screen problem.
Thank god it doesn't have such problems
Then I turn it on and check for light bleeding. Well, there is a light bleeding spot on the left corner, but not obvious and won't be notice under normal use.
The rest of the TF700 are fine.
Now I am waiting for the case and screen flim.
I am not going to use it until the case arrive, last time I drop it from around 5~8cm height and the corner just blend and the screen pop out. I cannot believe how weak the structure is (Absolutely much weaker than the ipad!)
Hope the case could give some protection.
Waiting for JB now
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Yes, +1 on the case. It's really important to have some protective covering for this device. It's so beautiful and it would be such a shame to scratch and mar it up.
Without issues, Asus's tablets are the best:good:
Sound funny but it's true.
Do you have Bluetooth earphones to test it out with? I am happy with my tablet except for the Bluetooth audio lag.
What about lags and performance ?
Mine is perfect built with no hard ware issues, but I feel there are some software issues. I want to know is it common issues or only mine.
Some lags in main screen when first time going through them it looks like it needs time to load the pages and when downloading/updating apps from the market there are some freezes in screen and sometime while browsing using chrome the device become unresponsive and the screen freeze and I have to shut it down...
The device is great, but I'm wondering about the software issues and smoothness of this CPU
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What about lags and performance ?
Mine is perfect built with no hard ware issues, but I feel there are some software issues. I want to know is it common issues or only mine.
Some lags in main screen when first time going through them it looks like it needs time to load the pages and when downloading/updating apps from the market there are some freezes in screen and sometime while browsing using chrome the device become unresponsive and the screen freeze and I have to shut it down...
The device is great, but I'm wondering about the software issues and smoothness of this CPU
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same here but i think it's more noticeable because i have a nexus which is very smooth. hoping jb solves all the lagginess.
I just received my TF700T 64GB from Amazon yesterday and no issues with the screen clicking, actually it is very solid. It does have some light bleed out on the start up screen. But any other time it is not noticeable at all. As for the BT issue, that I am not sure of since I don't have a BT headset.
I did have a Freeze and Crash with loading Glowball. Once I turned it off and back on, it didn't seem to have any issues. The lags, in loading pages I have noticed this every once in awhile, which is strange. Wasn't sure if it was my Wifi network. However I have not had any lagging to the point that it locked up the page where I would need to shut down and reboot.
As for a case, that is not for me. You purchase a device like this due to performance and how thin it is. By putting a case over it, then it is thicker like some of the competition. Besides when dust particles get behind the case it will scratch the aluminum anyway if not careful. Not quite sure how one drops such a heavy device. If you have Accidental Damage insurance on it, no need to worry. File a claim and get a new one, issue fixed.
Traded my prime in at my local BestBuy for an Infinity. Clicking around the screen and the buttons were mushy. Second Infinity the buttons were still mushy and there was a poor mesh between the aluminum back and the plastic strip. THIRD Infinity SEEMS ok (cross your fingers) buttons click good, not really mushy, no clicking around the screen, all seems well!
The clicking could be because the glue they use stays tacky for a bit. I would assume that after a month or so it should cure and stop being tacky thus the clicking. Just an idea tho...
It's actually a shame that there are threads devoted to receiving a flawless prime. Not knocking the OP or anything, but it's crazy how we shell out 1/2 a G for a tablet and "hope" that it's a good one... I got fed up with the stutters, lock ups, questionable-hardware-so-lets-blame-it-on-the-software concerns... I had a tf201 and was lucky enough to be able to return it directly to Asus and get a full refund, then I turned around and got the tf700... Went through two of them. First one had mushy buttons and a clicky screen... It was a c7... Then got a replacement which was a c6. Turned out to be a better build than the c7, but the GPS didn't work independently like it should have. Then, I checked the c7 and that didn't work the way it should have either. Both needed google location services active for GPS to work! Between that and reading about the tf300 issues with JB and experiencing the sluggish response times, non responsive touch screen, icon-less home screens, app force closes, decreasing wifi reception and just about every problem under the sun (ala prime), I finally decided to return it to amazon for a refund. It seems like the infinity starts to get really slow as you use it more and more... It has potential, but I don't have the time or bank roll to wait and gamble...
I'm sure there are people who have perfectly working infinity's but I wasn't trying to hold my breath any longer just to hope that JB would correct all the issues... I'm actually eyeing the iPad, but will probably wait until October to see what apple has up its sleeve... I don't care for apple, but truthfully speaking... Their products have a LOT less issues and the developer devotion to some solid apps only available on the iPad have me steered in that direction. I mean, I can't get scrabble for the infinity or the prime (when i had it)... Really?!?!
Well, good luck to the infinity owners, I'll still follow the forums just to see how things turn out, but I think I'm done with Asus... It's really a shame, because they have so much potential...
Hi guys.
Before buying my A510, I used to have a SGT 10.1. I sold off my SGT 10.1 2 weeks before getting my A510, so I was never able to do side-by-side comparison between the two.
However, judging by the response in the forums at that time and by my personal usage, it was clear that the Acer tablet had some serious sensitivity issues. I couldn't confirm how bad, but it was bad enough to be noticeable by me based against my SGT 10.1.
To me, the worst thing is when putting the tablet on a hard flat surface, like a table. This is where the sensitivity, for some weird r!eason, takes a very BAD hit. I just got a Note 10.1 yesteray, and used both side by side. The Note could flawlessly take input when laid flat on a table. But not the A510.
Any idea why? Do try if your tab takes a hit when placed on a flat surface and let me know.
Thanks
I had an A510 that I returned for just that reason; sensitivity not only took a hit, it became almost useless when laid on a table. Problem was compounded by a screen protector. A700 seems much better. However the most recent update (1.029 -> 1.057) actually made things worse as far as the touch screen. For a while I flashed back to 1.029. Then I decided to update to 1.057 and root, and now I am using Acer Liquid Settings program which requires root & seems to help sensitivity. I am typing this flat on a table with only 1 or 2 missed touches for this reply, all in the 1st sentence.
Edit: There is a YouTube video that illustrates this problem in the A510 Search A510 problem on YouTube.
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I had an A510 that I returned for just that reason; sensitivity not only took a hit, it became almost useless when laid on a table. Problem was compounded by a screen protector. A700 seems much better. However the most recent update (1.029 -> 1.057) actually made things worse as far as the touch screen. For a while I flashed back to 1.029. Then I decided to update to 1.057 and root, and now I am using Acer Liquid Settings program which requires root & seems to help sensitivity. I am typing this flat on a table with only 1 or 2 missed touches for this reply, all in the 1st sentence.
Edit: There is a YouTube video that illustrates this problem in the A510 Search A510 problem on YouTube.
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Indeed, I have EXACTLY the same problem as that in the video. The actionbar is TOTALLY unusable on a table. When I lift and use it in my hands, things are much better but still very much worse compared to other tablets.
Now, the thing is, from what I read, an update from Acer caused this issue. Can anybody vouch for that?
I got my tablet in mid-June, and by then it was running on the latest version. I've not gotten any new updates to fix this issue. Assuming it is a software problem, why hasn't Acer issued a hotfix? Also, this must mean ALL A510s are affected right?
screen protector?
ok, may sound a bit weird, but i experienced exactly the same "issue" on my a700. if i use the tab in bed or in the stand i got no touchscreen response. but this inresponsiveness has startet sometimes after mounting a screen protector at the tab. it just takes a while, until i recognised this behavior. travelling around the last weeks and was trying to navigate through the music library at the hotel brought the problem up first time.
since i removed the protector foil, the touchscreen response is back in all situations.
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There have been past threads on different devices that point to a grounding issue when this occurs. Your body is a conductor when holding the tablet so it works better. If the device is grounded properly then there isn't an issue either way. If your saying this was the result of an update then that's better then a hardware issue since it can be fixed much easier, once the company is made aware of the issue of course.
Don't hold your breath...
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There have been past threads on different devices that point to a grounding issue when this occurs. Your body is a conductor when holding the tablet so it works better. If the device is grounded properly then there isn't an issue either way. If your saying this was the result of an update then that's better then a hardware issue since it can be fixed much easier, once the company is made aware of the issue of course.
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Yes a software issue can be fixed more easily...
IF the company decides to acknowledge the problem, act on the information and then go to the (likely considerable) expense of creating and releasing an update to address the problem. There have been many reports of this touch screen issue in the A51x & A7xx Iconias throughout the Internet especially, but not exclusively, if one is using a screen protector. Amazingly Acer claimed to address this in most recent OTA update for A700 (1.057), which was stated to address touch screen issues; it only made them worse on my A700. Go figure.
So I have the A700 and do not find any difference in touch sensitivity between the tablet laying down on a table and it being in my hands. Are you guys finding a big difference between the two?
Unfortunately it doesn't mean its perfect as I do struggle with touch sensitivity with the edges of the screen sometimes, which can be annoying as a lot off apps/browsers tend to put buttons in the corners.
Quick fix is to toggle the screen sensitivity everytime you boot up. (Change to medium then back high again, you do this every boot.)
A more permanent solution (applicable to the A510 only), is to flash NoThrills' optimized A510 rom along with the included NoThrills Kernel. This has solved my screen sensitivity issues.
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Quick fix is to toggle the screen sensitivity everytime you boot up. (Change to medium then back high again, you do this every boot.)
A more permanent solution (applicable to the A510 only), is to flash NoThrills' optimized A510 rom along with the included NoThrills Kernel. This has solved my screen sensitivity issues.
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Oh my God, you're so damn right! One of the first things I did when I got my tablet was putting the sensitivity to high, and I have never changed it since. Now that you mention, I put it to medium, then immediately high. Using the tablet on a flat surface is possible...my taps get registered flawlessly.
So, this means it is not something wrong with the display panel itself, but a software issue. Here's to hoping that Acer will fix it. Really weird man.
PS: Is there a code that I could tweak in the buil_prop maybe? I don't want to be flashing ROMs at the moment.
I was also wondering whether screen sensitivity could be addressed in build.prop. Anyone know?
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Oh my God, you're so damn right! One of the first things I did when I got my tablet was putting the sensitivity to high, and I have never changed it since. Now that you mention, I put it to medium, then immediately high. Using the tablet on a flat surface is possible...my taps get registered flawlessly.
So, this means it is not something wrong with the display panel itself, but a software issue. Here's to hoping that Acer will fix it. Really weird man.
PS: Is there a code that I could tweak in the buil_prop maybe? I don't want to be flashing ROMs at the moment.
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I currently do not know of any build.prop or init.d solution. (So I guess it's more complex than I thought it would be.)
As mentioned though, I don't have the sensitivity issues anymore since using NoThrill's Optimized A510 WW ROM (The kernel was the one that fixed it I think, since I flashed Acer's stock kernel and I got my sensitivity issues back.)
So you might wanna consider flashing a new rom, or, flashing a new kernel at least.
I purchased my first tf700 from Newegg 5 or 6 weeks ago. The build was excellent. No screen separation issues and little light bleed. I ended up RMAing the device due to a weird screen issue where it was randomly tapping/swiping by itself every now and then.
I just received my new device which has an 80 serial number, and the screen is separating. If you sight down the edge of the top you can see that it actually bows out quite a bit toward the middle, and it clicks when I press it. SO FRUSTRATING!
Newegg's RMA procedure is as painless as it can be for an online purchase, but I think I'll return this one for a refund and purchase from Best Buy so I don't have to spend the foreseeable future shipping Infinities back and forth.
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esoxx said:
I purchased my first tf700 from Newegg 5 or 6 weeks ago. The build was excellent. No screen separation issues and little light bleed. I ended up RMAing the device due to a weird screen issue where it was randomly tapping/swiping by itself every now and then.
I just received my new device which has an 80 serial number, and the screen is separating. If you sight down the edge of the top you can see that it actually bows out quite a bit toward the middle, and it clicks when I press it. SO FRUSTRATING!
Newegg's RMA procedure is as painless as it can be for an online purchase, but I think I'll return this one for a refund and purchase from Best Buy so I don't have to spend the foreseeable future shipping Infinities back and forth.
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I bought one off amazon everything was great, then the corner of the screen start to click when I picked it up. :/ it was so perfect..............................................................................
Guys, there are like a thousand threads on these same issues already here, each with perfect solutions for dealing with the situation should it arise. Must we have yet another negative TF700 thread? My 700 is perfect, and so are the majority of people's as well. Continuing to populate the forums with these types of threads though does nothing but scare away potential developers from wanting to shell out the cash to pick up one of these tabs and develop awesome roms for us!
I do not mean to sound rude, nor am I flaming, but please, mods lock this thread before it spirals into something worse.
I agree with theanarchist that this is the same thread that we've all seen. But I also don't think most peoples tabs Are perfect. Some (like me) are still trying to find a perfect one And some have just accepted what they have and have given up. Others (like you) managed to get a perfect one.
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Mine is perfect as well. My mother, my uncle, my best friend Craig, and my in laws have a perfect unit too. So when I see threads like this, it makes me wonder if people have an agenda.
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Mine is perfect as well. My mother, my uncle, my best friend Craig, and my in laws have a perfect unit too. So when I see threads like this, it makes me wonder if people have an agenda.
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Mine's not perfect, clicking near the hdmi port and you can click it from a good portion up towards the middle of the screen. I personally gave up on Asus, though hearing that there are people that have indeed perfect ones makes me wish I had exchanged it. I was hesitant because I had already returned a tf300 (screen issue) and then later the Prime that I had replaced the tf300 with. I had only returned the Prime to get the tf700, as I was pretty frustrated I couldn't get the gps to work EVEN with the dongle Asus sent me. I didn't have any wifi issues really nor any screen clicking issues with the Prime and though I like the infinity the screen clicking annoys me. Wondering if I should rma it directly to them, just don't want to get a different tab back or been in a worse situation as a result.
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Guys, there are like a thousand threads on these same issues already here, each with perfect solutions for dealing with the situation should it arise. Must we have yet another negative TF700 thread? My 700 is perfect, and so are the majority of people's as well. Continuing to populate the forums with these types of threads though does nothing but scare away potential developers from wanting to shell out the cash to pick up one of these tabs and develop awesome roms for us!
I do not mean to sound rude, nor am I flaming, but please, mods lock this thread before it spirals into something worse.
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There was an earlier thread that theorized that the build issues were being addressed in the more recently built devices. I posted to show that even with the more recent 80 serial number devices, the same issues are present on at least a percentage of tf700s.
I certainly have no agenda. I'm on my second Infinity, which will unfortunately also be going back. The first one had some extreme screen separation on the right hand side. It was an C06 serial number. The one I'm on now, my second is a C80 serial number. The screen is good, with just a slight clicking in one spot on the right hand side. I'd live with it. However the light leaking out onto the screen along the bottom and right side from the LEDs is very very noticible.
I won't give up. I really love everything about the TF700 except for the build quality issues that I have experienced. I think the OP has a valid point in saying that the issues are not fixed yet. When my second unit came, I was psyched to see the serial number on the box said C80. I was very disappointed that it too has issues.
I think...
I think the screen seperation can be because of the humidity. Where do u live?
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I think the screen seperation can be because of the humidity. Where do u live?
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I don't think it's humidity. I live on the west coast of the US. Pretty dry here. I noticed a curve in the glass along the top of the screen as soon as I took it out of the box and removed the skin/wrapper. It's noticeably bowed out in the middle of that edge.
I just wanted to chime in to say that this is my 2nd C8. The 1st had a June build date and it came with the .22 firmware. I exchanged that one for this 2nd C8 which came with the .26 firmware and a 20120720 build date.
The 1st infinity had power and volume button issues and sharper than normal edges all around. I can't find anything wrong with the build on this second C8 other than the haptic feedback is set really low. (Does vibrate when power on)
I'm rooted and have the dmclient froze in titanium backup while I read up on NV flash. (Guarding against a forced OTA update) I made the mistake of applying the .30 OTA to soon last time.
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I just wanted to chime in to say that this is my 2nd C8. The 1st had a June build date and it came with the .22 firmware. I exchanged that one for this 2nd C8 which came with the .26 firmware and a 20120720 build date.
The 1st infinity had power and volume button issues and sharper than normal edges all around. I can't find anything wrong with the build on this second C8 other than the haptic feedback is set really low. (Does vibrate when power on)
I'm rooted and have the dmclient froze in titanium backup while I read up on NV flash. (Guarding against a forced OTA update) I made the mistake of applying the .30 OTA to soon last time.
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Glad to hear that. Hopefully, 3rd time will be the charm. I really do LOVE this tablet, I just want one that's solidly built and works.
Agreed. I don't see how humidity is going to affect Corning's Gorilla Glass 2. Seriously don't see this being a factor at all.
I suppose I am one of the luck ones as well, no discernable bleeding edge light and completely flat screen. Of course, I bought the 64GB model from BB online, and it already have .26 on it when it arrived.
I too just returned my c8 version today that suffered from light bleed, mushy/sticky power and volume buttons, separating screen which also had sharp 90 edges. The one I just picked up is a night and difference from the first one. This one is a c9 version and other than a little light bleed the construction is solid. It doesn't even appear to be the same tablet....its like the first one was a cheap knock off. Another thing I am noticing with this new one is that the speed of touch feedback is so much faster than the C8.
I did decide to purchase the extended warranty this time around...my experience with the prime has left me jaded and there is no way I'm going to be left holding a dud.
With that said, I suggest if possible to keep on returning them until you find a good one...they do exist!
If Asus can't be persistent with their perfection...Be persistent with the returns!
F me! Just noticed this one is creaking like an old rocking chair, its on the left side by the hdmi port.
Today, I swapped out my first C7 after owning it for a week and received a C8 as a replacement. It amazes me the differences between the two.
For my particular devices, the differences were:
C7 pros: The construction was very solid. I kept reading horror stories about screen lift, creaking, etc. and mine felt solid like a tank. No light bleed issues either.
C7 cons: It suffered from severe I/O issues. Trying to download something from the market would grind things to a halt until the download and install finished. The Browser lagged a bit as well........as did moving around the launcher or clearing items from the recents menu . I returned it because there was a spec of dust under the screen which just really bothered me.
C8 pros: It feels like they put better quality internals in this one! There have been none of the i/o issues, lag, or stutters. Everything is very responsive and snappy. From a software usability standpoint, this feels like a completely new device.
C8 cons: The physical build quality is definitely not as high as the first. There are spots around the edges of the glass that feel "squishy". There is also a bit more lightbeed but i would not call it bad by any means.
For now, I am going to keep the C8 because the performance difference alone is worth it. The minor physical build quality issues aren't bothering me enough yet to risk giving up the performance.
One trend I seem to have noticed after reading all these reviews is that the build date does not seem to have much correlation with physical build quality. However, it does seem that more recent models may be using higher quality internal components contributing to noticeable performance gain.
These are just my observations.
This will be my second replacement through Amazon. My first unit wouldn't read any sim I placed in the device which I just put down to bad luck considering I couldn't find any other user with the same issue. The second (my current unit) has developed a sort of LCD distortion around the mid right of the screen. When touched it is visible enough to cause me to notice it when using apps with lighter backgrounds, it is even more prominent when using the stylus. I have never encountered this on any touch screen I have used before and was wondering if anyone else has had this? I saw a thread on the NVIDIA forums discussing it but not on here.
I will say this much for sure, on the two units so far the battery life has been terrible. I really want to love this device as overall it's been great for games and emulation... but with all the issues and battery life i'm thinking that if this unit is no better i'll give this tablet a miss and hope the next version is fixed.
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This will be my second replacement through Amazon. My first unit wouldn't read any sim I placed in the device which I just put down to bad luck considering I couldn't find any other user with the same issue. The second (my current unit) has developed a sort of LCD distortion around the mid right of the screen. When touched it is visible enough to cause me to notice it when using apps with lighter backgrounds, it is even more prominent when using the stylus. I have never encountered this on any touch screen I have used before and was wondering if anyone else has had this? I saw a thread on the NVIDIA forums discussing it but not on here.
I will say this much for sure, on the two units so far the battery life has been terrible. I really want to love this device as overall it's been great for games and emulation... but with all the issues and battery life i'm thinking that if this unit is no better i'll give this tablet a miss and hope the next version is fixed.
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I have this issue with my tablet, and unfortunately lots of people on the geforce forums are as well. Supposedly the RMA units being sent out as replacements overwhelmingly have the same issue (See Jasons posts at https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/793383/shield-tablet/nvidia-guilty-of-fraud/1/). I have an RMA being sent to me as we speak, and I really hope I don't have this problem again.
bill0405 said:
I have this issue with my tablet, and unfortunately lots of people on the geforce forums are as well. Supposedly the RMA units being sent out as replacements overwhelmingly have the same issue. I have an RMA being sent to me as we speak, and I really hope I don't have this problem again.
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I contacted Amazon to ask about the feedback they have received on units they've sold, the customer service advisor claimed nothing but positive feedback and no issues such as the ones on the Nvidia forums. All of that said, from what i've seen so far, this tablet is riddled with manufacturing flaws and i'm worried the lifespan will be much shorter than any smartphone or tablet I have bought before.
I feel sorry for the consumers who have had to RMA they're units multiple times, this will be my third Shield Tablet and it seems many others have gone through 3 or more to find one that is right, is this acceptable?
Then others score a perfect tablet like myself.
Same thing with phones, when N5 was released, never saw so many go through so many returns to achieve a level of some perfection.
Yet, the two I bought were perfect, I just don't get it myself neither.
Same happened with N7(13), N4 and N7(12).
I never had to return one because it was defective.
I read about this supposedly sub par in cell tech used on our display, that it distorts under pressure. I called bs on it first time I read it, tested myself, had to push so hard moisture in my skin wouldn't allow me to slide my finger on display.
Seem excessive?
Sure does, now if you're just touching it an it happens it is an issue, but if you can see blood pooling under your finger nail, the defect is above screen level IMO.
Harsh maybe, I'm sorry but that's my view on it here.
WR
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Then others score a perfect tablet like myself.
Same thing with phones, when N5 was released, never saw so many go through so many returns to achieve a level of some perfection.
Yet, the two I bought were perfect, I just don't get it myself neither.
Same happened with N7(13), N4 and N7(12).
I never had to return one because it was defective.
I read about this supposedly sub par in cell tech used on our display, that it distorts under pressure. I called bs on it first time I read it, tested myself, had to push so hard moisture in my skin wouldn't allow me to slide my finger on display.
Seem excessive?
Sure does, now if you're just touching it an it happens it is an issue, but if you can see blood pooling under your finger nail, the defect is above screen level IMO.
Harsh maybe, I'm sorry but that's my view on it here.
WR
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It's definitely a problem with this tablet, that and the cracked edges i've been seeing a lot of topics on. I've been using touch screen devices since around the time of the 1st generation iPod touch and i've never returned a single product back with any of the issues i've had/seen with this tablet which I am now on my third unit.
The screen itself needs little pressure for the screen to distort, which is now in two places on the screen. I'm far too careful with my devices and do not use excessive pressure on the screen.
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It's definitely a problem with this tablet, that and the cracked edges i've been seeing a lot of topics on. I've been using touch screen devices since around the time of the 1st generation iPod touch and i've never returned a single product back with any of the issues i've had/seen with this tablet which I am now on my third unit.
The screen itself needs little pressure for the screen to distort, which is now in two places on the screen. I'm far too careful with my devices and do not use excessive pressure on the screen.
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Yes, I do believe there are some bad units made.
Nvidia is a gem for standing behind unit so well.
Hopefully you get a decent one soon.
WR
SamualStrand said:
I contacted Amazon to ask about the feedback they have received on units they've sold, the customer service advisor claimed nothing but positive feedback and no issues such as the ones on the Nvidia forums. All of that said, from what i've seen so far, this tablet is riddled with manufacturing flaws and i'm worried the lifespan will be much shorter than any smartphone or tablet I have bought before.
I feel sorry for the consumers who have had to RMA they're units multiple times, this will be my third Shield Tablet and it seems many others have gone through 3 or more to find one that is right, is this acceptable?
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I'm happy to say the RMA'd unit I received is in great working order. No screen issues, no battery issues, wifi is good, and speakers/build quality are good.
Hi there yes mine to has a screen distortion around the sim card area . if I press harder with pressure but with the stylus its fine
I will Returning this to amazon where I had purchased from
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I'm happy to say the RMA'd unit I received is in great working order. No screen issues, no battery issues, wifi is good, and speakers/build quality are good.
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Since you have no battery issues, what is your screen on time like during a full cycle. I have been wondering since I get only about 3 1/2 hours.