Just stumbled on to this blog post
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...cream-sandwich-update-roll-out-odds-are-slim/
that's claiming the ICS update is slim chance of coming to the thunderbolt what are the chances of this??? Anybody else read this post I have never come across this site before, maybe its just opinion but I will flip if this phone doesn't get ICS update I will be ready to leave android all together ill go back to a dumb phone and save some money..
If HTC doesn't update this they will be on my list of no buy companies up there with samsung (OG galaxy tab owner) who would rather sell a new product than update an existing product that's a good way to lose customers rather than save them. I hate apple products with a passion but at least they get a couple updates before they make you buy a new phone this fragmentation is getting ridiculous.
Android has a chance to be great better than any iproduct but they need to step it up and get in with these phone manufacturers and clean up the fragmentation. work together so when a new version is released all phone can get it. plan ahead and support a product stop taking after china building crap that needs to be bought new again instead of being fixed and upgraded.
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let flaming begin I apologize if this is in the wrong forum or has a topic already
I agree, its ridiculous if our phones don't get this update. Its not so much that we don't get the update, but more that HTC has done nothing but break promises to Thunderbolt owners who already have been suffering through many issues. Hopefully they'll at least give us the RIL so the devs can finish they're roms because they're great so far. In the end though, I'm done with HTC once my contract is up... plan on getting the next Nexus where there will be no problems like this.
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I wouldn't take that website as legit, especially since my computer picked up a virus threat while loading the page.
(WARNING BEFORE YOU LOAD THE LINK)
Anyways, I have seen where one guy (can't remember his name) called HTC about the update for the Thunderbolt.
This guy claims that an HTC representative told him over the phone that HTC has already released the update to Verizon. Now that the ICS update is in Verizon's hands, we are basically waiting for Verizon to add their crap to it before they release it to it for use.
I wish I could find this post where the guy was talking about it.
I am almost certain that Thunderbolt users WILL see ICS, but never anything more updated than that.
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I wouldn't take that website as legit, especially since my computer picked up a virus threat while loading the page.
(WARNING BEFORE YOU LOAD THE LINK)
Anyways, I have seen where one guy (can't remember his name) called HTC about the update for the Thunderbolt.
This guy claims that an HTC representative told him over the phone that HTC has already released the update to Verizon. Now that the ICS update is in Verizon's hands, we are basically waiting for Verizon to add their crap to it before they release it to it for use.
I wish I could find this post where the guy was talking about it.
I am almost certain that Thunderbolt users WILL see ICS, but never anything more updated than that.
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I remember reading the post you're talking about but how do we know if that is legit or not.
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RBarnett09 said:
I wouldn't take that website as legit, especially since my computer picked up a virus threat while loading the page.
(WARNING BEFORE YOU LOAD THE LINK)
Anyways, I have seen where one guy (can't remember his name) called HTC about the update for the Thunderbolt.
This guy claims that an HTC representative told him over the phone that HTC has already released the update to Verizon. Now that the ICS update is in Verizon's hands, we are basically waiting for Verizon to add their crap to it before they release it to it for use.
I wish I could find this post where the guy was talking about it.
I am almost certain that Thunderbolt users WILL see ICS, but never anything more updated than that.
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I get the feeling that if the ROM was being processed by VZW we'd have seen a "leak" already.
i think we will never see ICS ever... on tbolt.
everyone is moving from doing roms for an old device
HTC sent me this email yesterday when I asked them about ICS on the Thunderbolt
Dear #### ,
Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC technical support. I will gladly assist you with your inquiry regarding the ICS update and your Thunderbolt, ####.
HTC does not announce dates for release of software due to the nature of the software development process. At any point in the software development cycle a situation may be encountered that requires anything from some minor additional rework, to complete rewrites of the software base. Only after the final acceptance testing has been successfully completed will HTC release software. The normal time period between the final acceptance testing and release of software is about a week and often shorter than that
With this being said, I would suggest that you keep an eye on our official website and social media outlets. Once we have released the software for your Thunderbolt, it will be announced on these sites first.
I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused, ####. Keep in mind, you can find tips & tricks and your user manual on the Thunderbolt support page found here: http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-thunderbolt-verizon/
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
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Sincerely,
Angela
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HTC sent me this email yesterday when I asked them about ICS on the Thunderbolt
Dear #### ,
Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC technical support. I will gladly assist you with your inquiry regarding the ICS update and your Thunderbolt, ####.
HTC does not announce dates for release of software due to the nature of the software development process. At any point in the software development cycle a situation may be encountered that requires anything from some minor additional rework, to complete rewrites of the software base. Only after the final acceptance testing has been successfully completed will HTC release software. The normal time period between the final acceptance testing and release of software is about a week and often shorter than that
With this being said, I would suggest that you keep an eye on our official website and social media outlets. Once we have released the software for your Thunderbolt, it will be announced on these sites first.
I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused, ####. Keep in mind, you can find tips & tricks and your user manual on the Thunderbolt support page found here: http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-thunderbolt-verizon/
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
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Doesn't confirm nor deny just keeps us wondering. more or less the reason i posted this in the first place was because my wife has the rezound which was suppose to be updated the end of June/early July and here we are at the end of July and still nothing for the rezound either. So i thing HTC is turning into another samsung with updates lets hype up the news and tell everybody that we will update only to say down the road that it cant be updated.
It cant be paranoia when a Rom can be created for my OG galaxy tab showing it can run ICS without problems but samsung says it cant be done it all comes done greed they need to make money which i understand but they shouldn't be doing it at the expense of there loyal customers who ran out and bought the first 4G device created for verizon and waited almost a year before getting 4g in there areas (some i'm sure are still waiting). It may be a good business Decision now but it wont be in the long run when those customers go else where.
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Doesn't confirm nor deny just keeps us wondering. more or less the reason i posted this in the first place was because my wife has the rezound which was suppose to be updated the end of June/early July and here we are at the end of July and still nothing for the rezound either. So i thing HTC is turning into another samsung with updates lets hype up the news and tell everybody that we will update only to say down the road that it cant be updated.
It cant be paranoia when a Rom can be created for my OG galaxy tab showing it can run ICS without problems but samsung says it cant be done it all comes done greed they need to make money which i understand but they shouldn't be doing it at the expense of there loyal customers who ran out and bought the first 4G device created for verizon and waited almost a year before getting 4g in there areas (some i'm sure are still waiting). It may be a good business Decision now but it wont be in the long run when those customers go else where.
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That's true. I'm really thinking about ditching this phone and picking up a used G Nex
This is exactly the reason HTC is now on my NO BUY list. I will stay away from HTC. I hate sense but liked HTCs build quality. But from here on out I will stay away from HTC phones. I will wait till the next Nexus comes out and that will be my next phone unless it doesnt release on Verizon then I will go with Samsung as long as the bootloader isnt locked down.
Considering the Desire HD's ICS update just got the axe and the phones are pretty similar..... I'm thinking the Ththunderbolt will probably get the same excuse. Glad I switched to a Galaxy S3.
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Considering the Desire HD's ICS update just got the axe and the phones are pretty similar..... I'm thinking the Ththunderbolt will probably get the same excuse. Glad I switched to a Galaxy S3.
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Well, that's not entirely true.
The latest excuse/reason from HTC regarding pulling the Desire HD ICS update states that the reason is due to lack of internal storage capacity to handle the upgrade.
Due to the lack of capacity(1.5Gb's), the update would end up formatting all of the users data.
This is the reasoning for them not updating that device.
Our Thunderbolt however, has approx. 4GB of internal storage, so for us, this excuse will not fly and should not be used.
Also we should not see a lack of update due to "Poor device performance" either.
As they have obviously gotten ICS and Sense 4 running well enough on the 600Mhz Desire C device that they just released.
So, should we be faced with the same fate as the Desire HD?
NO we shouldn't!
Does this guarantee anything?
Absolutely nothing!
But I don't think we can write it off just yet anyway....
As I stated in another post...
I don't believe the HTC Desire HD is the closest phone to the Thunderbolt. Rather, I believe the AT&T HTC Inspire 4G is, which does currently run ICS.
I don't see why it would be a problem for us. Especially when you compare the phones together, the Thunderbolt comes out on top.
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As I stated in another post...
I don't believe the HTC Desire HD is the closest phone to the Thunderbolt. Rather, I believe the AT&T HTC Inspire 4G is, which does currently run ICS.
I don't see why it would be a problem for us. Especially when you compare the phones together, the Thunderbolt comes out on top.
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Inspire and Desire HD are the same phone and run the same ROMs. AT&T just felt the urge to rename it.
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Inspire and Desire HD are the same phone and run the same ROMs. AT&T just felt the urge to rename it.
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The Inspire 4G is LTE ready where as the Desire is not. Also the Thunderbolt has more internal memory than the Desire HD, and the Inspire 4G also has more internal memory than the Desire.
Very similar, but not the same.
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The Inspire 4G is LTE ready where as the Desire is not. Also the Thunderbolt has more internal memory than the Desire HD, and the Inspire 4G also has more internal memory than the Desire.
Very similar, but not the same.
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It's definitely not LTE ready nor has a modem chipset that supports LTE. My friend owns one.
The also both have the same amount of memory (768mb). However, if you meant flash memory, then yes, it has more (4GB versus 1.5GB)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Inspire_4G
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Htc_desire_hd
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It's definitely not LTE ready nor has a modem chipset that supports LTE. My friend owns one.
The also both have the same amount of memory (768mb). However, if you meant flash memory, then yes, it has more (4GB versus 1.5GB)
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Okay, you're right about the LTE on the Inspire. Thanks for clearing that up because I totally read up on that wrong.
Since the Desire HD has less flashable memory than the Thunderbolt, I think the Thunderbolt still holds that good chance of getting the ICS update.
Regardless, who knows what excuse they might come up with.
I know it won't be because it isn't capable of running on the Thunderbolt. Even the Inspire runs ICS. =l
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Just seems like because of flashable memory coming into play, the Inspire is technically closer to being a Thunderbolt than the Desire.
That's pretty much all I was saying.
Though barely a difference between the Inspire and Desire.
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Pretty sure the Desire HD and Inspire 4G are the exact same phone, other than the Inspire 4G has a second noise cancelling microphone and has a couple more radio frequencies it can run on. Some people say the Inspire has 4GB ROM and the DesireHD only has 1GB, but from what I understand they both only have 1GB for the system, which is why neither is getting an official ICS update.
Yes, the Inspire has ICS, and so does the DHD, but only because of developers that take the time to make the ROMs, neither phone is getting ICS from HTC.
What does this mean for the Thunderbolt? Who knows...but I believe it only has 1.5GB for system, which might be barely enough to get an ICS update installed, or might just not be enough.
It would be if they dumped Sense (fat chance).
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What are the chances current rooting methods and ROM's for the DHD will work on the Inspire?
I would assume that it would be the same. We just have to wait for the devs to get their hands on it. I am ditching the captivate for a better working gps and larger screen. Hoping this phone pans out to be half way decent.
If you can run dhd roms with it and swap out the modem driver for the 4g then we should have gingerbread in the form of cm7 right away.
Woo can't wait!
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There is nothing to swap modem wise... "4G" is not a feature that has been added compared to the European or Telus version. They all have HSPA+. It's just that AT&T has decided to give the technology a flashy name.
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The inspire 4G looks identical to the Desire HD and according to my sources they share the same code name .... ACE .... if this is the case the desire HD stuff is relevent ..... when someone gets there hands on one pls pm me to see if the inspire can be rotted by the normal methods ( user shoud know how to use fastboot + adb )
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If anyone is brave enough to teardown an Inspire 4G, they could also compare to the DHD teardown:
http://forum.frandroid.com/topic/40711-demontage-desire-hd-tombe-dans-leau/
And confirm if anything looks greatly different.
Seeing as the Telus Desire HD will be on the same frequencies and was announced the same day as AT&T's version, I would be very surprised if there were any hardware differences at all between that and the Inspire 4G. The Telus/Bell network is HSPA+ capable (as evidenced by Bell's Desire Z launch) so I can't see any reason Telus would intentionally ask HTC to send them a version with such a feature stripped out.
If it turns out to be able hackable via the exact same way as the Desire HD and it can run the same unmodified ROMS then perhaps this entire forum section for the Inspire 4G is pointless. In which case it might be better to get rid of the Inspire 4G section or rather merge it and rename the Desire HD to "Desire HD / Inspire 4G"
@r_3 You're going from the Captivate? Is the gps and .3in'' bigger screen worth it? Im not triking to say anything; I have the captivate as well and just wondering about your feelings on it.
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@r_3 You're going from the Captivate? Is the gps and .3in'' bigger screen worth it? Im not triking to say anything; I have the captivate as well and just wondering about your feelings on it.
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I have one too, and yes.
It's not just GPS and a bigger screen.
I don't know about you, but I'm STILL waiting for the Sense ROM to get stable for Captivate and I don't think it's coming anytime soon. Inspire is.
Plus the better camera and flash.
Plus the more premium-feeling aluminum case.
Plus, again--HTC.
I would switch in a heartbeat considering warranty has to give you a phone due to ATT not holding Captivate [refurb] anymore.
Captivate, Galaxy, Vibrant, whatever the hell they call that phone these day, it sux donkey's balls. The GPS is garbage, the phone feels like garbage in ur hands, samsung software update is garbage. Stick w HTC, even if they dont give out official updates, we will always be up to date due to how much devs here on xda are supporting HTC products, HTC sense beats samsung, motorola and lg all day.
I know I am doing my best to justify changing phones form the Captivate, mostly because of the similarity to the DHD and the fact that it is an HTC phone.
Its working gps. Supported phone from the manufacturer. Flash for the camera. Etc that have me leaving my captivate. SAMSUNG really rubbed me the wrong way and a lot of other people as well with their lack of communication and support for their customers. They are more interested in developing new phones and forgetting about their existing customer base and keeping them as loyal customers.
HTC is a phone company that I have used in the past and have been extremely happy with them. I will never buy another SAMSUNG phone.
I think you guys have talked me into it. When I night the captivate I was happy with it for a little until I hit the common problems (gps, updates, lack of real asop devs). I have really wanted to get an htc but I don't want to lose the great display. Do you guys think the inspire will have a better screen than the evo? My buddy has one and the display is lacking big time.
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I think you guys have talked me into it. When I night the captivate I was happy with it for a little until I hit the common problems (gps, updates, lack of real asop devs). I have really wanted to get an htc but I don't want to lose the great display. Do you guys think the inspire will have a better screen than the evo? My buddy has one and the display is lacking big time.
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Does your buddy have the AMOLED or SLCD Evo?
The AMOLED is comparable to the Nexus One screen which is brilliant in some light and rather dim in others. The SLCD has a more even appearance to it, and is comparable to the Desire HD screen. Possibly still not as bright as the Samsung super AMOLED but you'd have to decide for yourself.
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I would switch in a heartbeat considering warranty has to give you a phone due to ATT not holding Captivate [refurb] anymore.
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Is this true for all ATT stores? I'd love to be able to go in and get an Inspire 4g but since I bought the Captivate on day 1 I am not eligible for an upgrade yet. I'm fed up with the nonfunctional GPS in the Captivate.
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Rhiven said:
Is this true for all ATT stores? I'd love to be able to go in and get an Inspire 4g but since I bought the Captivate on day 1 I am not eligible for an upgrade yet. I'm fed up with the nonfunctional GPS in the Captivate.
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+1 I think what he was saying is that if you go in to get a new phone from warranty they would be forced to give you an inspire?? If this is indeed true I believe everyone in the right mind would be switching out their cappy for a new inspire. I just can't see ATT actually doing this. I mean they totally should it has been like 6 months and my GPS is still as f*@KE# as it was in the beginning. I have tried every hack mod fix and rom out there and no matter what it doesnt hold a candle to my gf's iphone 4. [email protected] SAMSUNG AND THEIR UNWILLINGNESS TO HELP PREVIOUS CUSTOMERS.
call customer service. They gave me an early upgrade from my captivate.
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call customer service. They gave me an early upgrade from my captivate.
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Did they waive the $200 early upgrade fee?
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Yes. I am paying $100 for the phone and $18 activation *which I plan to get waived as well*
Hey.. question.. does this phone have speaker phone.. AT&T cant confirm it! LOL
The Sensation is not what you want.This device may fall under the category with the Droid X and the Atrix. There is barely any support for either device. I suggest you ride it out with the G2X because support and roms will come in a bundle sooner or later. The sensation is tempting but once you do your initial setup than what?
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U are right plus no HDMI mirroring
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The sensation is tempting but once you do your initial setup than what?
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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I am too. Ill have to see what happens.
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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The atrix is motorola's flagship phone as well.
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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If your happy w/ the level of dev love that the Dx and Atrix get, then you'll be fine. Note that their ROMS are quite limited due to the lock down.
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U are right plus no HDMI mirroring
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This is the feature that kept me on the g2x.
Also the extra ram and processer power that the sensation has is for sense ui to run smooth.
Cant wait until new kernels arrive that will make the tegra a crazy powerhouse. The phone has been out for about two weeks, give it some time for the devs to get a hold of it. The nexus s for the first 2 months had a really lame dev section.
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This is the feature that kept me on the g2x.
Also the extra ram and processer power that the sensation has is for sense ui to run smooth.
Cant wait until new kernels arrive that will make the tegra a crazy powerhouse. The phone has been out for about two weeks, give it some time for the devs to get a hold of it. The nexus s for the first 2 months had a really lame dev section.
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Yep and look at it now.
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If your happy w/ the level of dev love that the Dx and Atrix get, then you'll be fine. Note that their ROMS are quite limited due to the lock down.
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Wouldn't the Thunderbolt be a better comparison to the Sensation rather than those Motorola phones since Motorola uses a different method of locking down their devices?
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Wouldn't the Thunderbolt be a better comparison to the Sensation rather than those Motorola phones since Motorola uses a different method of locking down their devices?
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No because the only reason the THunderbolt was unlocked was because of a leaked old ROM that wasn't locked down. Total luck.
I just came from an atrix and there is one dev cooking roms. (He has two). While they were both awesome its not a whole lot...we have more development here in two weeks then they had in 3 months. The atrix has more ram which is its only advantage....I always had like 700 mb ram available.....so for me the extra ram didn't benefit me. I was tempted to get the nexus s due to it being pure google but the fact that its a samsung phone (had alot of problems with galaxy s) and with dual core phones coming out I figured I would skip it. The g2x is what the nexus s should have shipped with. Dual core tegra.
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Motorola was a big name in Android because of the $100MM in marketing they and Verizon spent to put Android on the map with the "Droid does" campaign. Once HTC and Samsung got with the program Motorola's market share has been steadily declining. They're also primarily a North American player where Samsung and HTC are global. Both the SGS2 and Sensation will each individually sell more units than the entire Motorola Android product line. Spec wise the Atrix is a good comparison but sales and acceptance wise not so much. I at least give them credit for going back to the drawing board on the Bionic rather than launching what would have been an already dated phone.
Assuming all future Samsung and HTC phones are based off the internals of the SGS2 and Sensation, the impact of what you're saying is devs are going to stop working on Samsung and HTC phones. I find that hard to accept. Especially when the SGS2 and Sensation (and their derivatives) are expected to sell in the millions of units. Only time will tell.
Its been a while since I have posted here, but as I did not see a thread dedicated to this yet other then the previous one in the dev section about HTC reviewing their policy. Here is what Htc Said Today.
HTC
Devs, we’re making lots of progress on unlocking bootloaders: Today we can confirm the HTC Sensation and HTC EVO 3D will be supported! See out note for more info:
Update on Bootloaders
Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information soon. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback. **UPDATE** We’ve listened. Check out the statement from our CEO, Peter Chou on HTC bootloaders. Click the link for more info. http://on.fb.me/iZXgkR **UPDATE 7/10** <!-- p.p1 {margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 48.0px; font: 15.0px Calibri} --> We wanted to provide an update on HTC’s progress with bringing bootloader unlocking to our newest phones. We know how excited some of you are for this capability, and we’ve put significant resources behind making this change as soon as possible. While we wish we could flip a simple switch and unlock all bootloaders across our device portfolio, this is actually a complex challenge that requires a new software build and extensive testing to deliver the best possible customer experience. We’re thrilled to announce today that software updates to support bootloader unlocking will begin rolling out in August for the global HTC Sensation, followed by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. We’re in the testing phase for the unlocking capability now, and we expect it to be fully operational by early September for devices that have received the software updates. We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments. HTC continues its commitment to unlocking bootloaders and supporting the developer community. Because of the importance of this community to us, please expect an update on this about every few weeks as we make progress toward launch. Thank you for your patience and continued support!
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While this is very promising to us, keep in mind there are still other restrictions they are trying to use to crack down on the dev community.
Such as Providers working with google, reviewing which devices by imei will not take an update, and possibly deactivating service from there... I don't remember the link to the site that was talking about it, as I am on a new computer and it was book marked on my crashed one.
If any one has the link please feel free to share.
Where you been mudknot? You didn't get an infuse or something did you?
Definitely not I will never buy samsung unless its a tv or washer and dryer. My laptop crashed on me. So I had to buy a new one, which I got a somekin deal on, Thing has 6g ram, i5, 750g harddrive 17.3 inch screen, Ati graphics card with 1g dedicated ram, for 550 bucks.
Windows 7 and an XBOX 360?
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Definitely not I will never buy samsung unless its a tv or washer and dryer. My laptop crashed on me. So I had to buy a new one, which I got a somekin deal on, Thing has 6g ram, i5, 750g harddrive 17.3 inch screen, Ati graphics card with 1g dedicated ram, for 550 bucks.
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Whew. I was worried there for a sec.
I really think I need to do a backup of my laptop. A little voice has been telling me the last few days, and now you say yours did, somethings definitely trying to drop me a hint.
That's a lot of laptop for the price, for sure. In fact, that's downright amazing considering my POS and how much I paid for it 3 years ago.
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Naa just a laptop that I got on clearance. I already have the three major systems.
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Scott_S said:
Whew. I was worried there for a sec.
I really think I need to do a backup of my laptop. A little voice has been telling me the last few days, and now you say yours did, somethings definitely trying to drop me a hint.
That's a lot of laptop for the price, for sure. In fact, that's downright amazing considering my POS and how much I paid for it 3 years ago.
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I am only going to upgrade to another HTC that is more then likely not going to be 3d, that crap hurts my eyes. More then likely the holiday.
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I am only going to upgrade to another HTC that is more then likely not going to be 3d, that crap hurts my eyes. More then likely the holiday.
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I hear ya. Luckily this phone has given me the patience to be able to wait for a holiday-type phone from ATT.
I didn't feel that way when I had the cappy. Two months with that phone and I was already begging ATT to come out with something better... The inspire will hold me over just fine.
The Holiday sounds like it is worth it, I am saving my money now so hopefully I have enough for it when it comes out(of-contract). Im predicting about $700.
(Dont hate Im too young still to work so I don't have a steady job)
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The Holiday sounds like it is worth it, I am saving my money now so hopefully I have enough for it when it comes out(of-contract). Im predicting about $700.
(Dont hate Im too young still to work so I don't have a steady job)
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Judging by past HTC phones I would say it will more likely be around 500-600
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Definitely not I will never buy samsung unless its a tv or washer and dryer. My laptop crashed on me. So I had to buy a new one, which I got a somekin deal on, Thing has 6g ram, i5, 750g harddrive 17.3 inch screen, Ati graphics card with 1g dedicated ram, for 550 bucks.
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That's a hell of a laptop for that cost.
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That's a hell of a laptop for that cost.
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Well it was a display model with the retailers software installed, it was originally listed for like 1000. I talked them down a little bit. The only the thing wrong with it is the keyboard is a little raised in one section but it doesn't effect the typing. So I had to buy it, because HP will still warranty it.
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Well it was a display model with the retailers software installed, it was originally listed for like 1000. I talked them down a little bit. The only the thing wrong with it is the keyboard is a little raised in one section but it doesn't effect the typing. So I had to buy it, because HP will still warranty it.
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Sir, that's a win.
Back on topic here. The article I read stated that even though HTC wll come up with a tool to unlock the bootloaders, it would require approval from the carriers to be released. What are the odds? This just seems like a big ploy to put the finger soley on the carriers.
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With all the newer phones for HTC coming out, is the HTC Inspire still a good a buy?
I just purchased a thunderbolt. They're basicly the same device. Yes, its still a great buy. Throw cm7 or ics sense on it and call it a day.
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With all the newer phones for HTC coming out, is the HTC Inspire still a good a buy?
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Give us more info. Do you have an upgrade coming up or something? It's still a good phone that runs android relatively smooth. But there are many better offerings.
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Sure it's a real solid phone, but if you're upgrading from the carrier and getting their discount I'd go for newer technology personally. I won't be replacing my inspire till it dies or I find a ROM that needs a faster processor, but I don't think i'd actually buy one new.
Honest opinion, as much as I'd like to get a new phone (one x), my inspire suplies me with everything I expect from a smartphone, but if I were to upgrade from, say a OG Droid or something from those parameters, I'd get a newer phone.
I've had my Inspire since Feb 2011 and I still love it. Since you can probably get one for next to nothing now, it's a great buy. But I agree that if I was going to upgrade right now I'd get one of the newer devices to maximize my discount.
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I have had my inspire since June of last year. It was my first Android phone coming from an iPhone and I love it. It does everything I ask of it and is very hackable. I have lost track long ago of the number of different Roms I have try ed on it and it seems to keep getting better. And since I will not be able to get an upgrade from AT&T till January I'll just keep trucking with it and enjoying it.
I traded my Titan 2 for an Inspire (+ cash) and I'm so happy. The phone is EXCELLENT! To me, the default GB ROM with Sense was super ugly and reminded me of my old HD2 when it was running on Windows 6.5. So within an hour of having the phone, I rooted it and put ICS on it and I can proudly say, the Inspire is here to stay .
I sold my new galaxy note for 500$ and bought an inspire for 160$.... I'm happy with the decision
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I thoroughly enjoy this phone, but with all of the new and fancier ones coming out, I would lean towards those. Then again I like to mess with things a lot, so if you're looking simply for a solid phone, the Inspire definitely fits that description.
I enjoy the phone if you one of those people like me who doesn't mind not having a front camera then I'd say go for it I've personally flashed a ics ROM but that's just me
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For a phone of this age (by today's standards), it still is a worthy device. I had my phone running stock for the first 6 or 7 months i had it. Didn't slow down at all. And the amount of development going into it is pretty crazy so there's no way you can get bored once you root
It's a good phone, one of the best that I ever had.
Also I ear good news from HTC that the HTC desire HD (sister of the Inspire) will be receiving the ICS update!!! And hopefully, one of the developers will be able to port this into to the HTC Inspire 4g
I have a HTC Inspire 4G and it still is a really good Phone; However, better phones have become or will become available in the near future. It really comes down to your preference. Samsung, HTC, and Motorola all have really good phones out now so search around and find a phone that fits your needs and get that one.
... is almost gone and still no JB update on the horizon. I doub't that there will be an JB Update this month
Anyone with me?
It's htc obviously there isn't going to be a jelly bean update they talk out their back side all the time never buying another HTC device.
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They actually never said October, that was just a rumour and supposedly only for the X, not the S.
They only came out the other day officially saying November for the one X and December for the one S.
http://www.techradar.com//news/phon...ean-release-date-when-will-you-get-it-1087344
Update: The latest reports suggest the One X will see Android 4.1 pop up in October, although HTC are yet to officially confirm anything.
Update:HTC has confirmed its One X and One S devices will be getting Android 4.1 in November and December respectively, and the update will land with an enhanced version of Sense – cunningly named Sense 4+ after its debut on the HTC One X+.
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But yeah I agree, it is annoying........
I am not expecting the update to hit my stock sim free one S in the UK till January or February.
That notice its false (sorry for my inglish) htc said in their google+ and another sites like twitter, that update its going to rolling out in this month for ONE X AND ONE S, THIS...
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That notice its false (sorry for my inglish) htc said in their google+ and another sites like twitter, that update its going to rolling out in this month for ONE X AND ONE S, THIS...
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You got any links to those posts?
It doesn't matter htc even if they give us a date they don't stick to it happens with most of their devices I really don't care if they go bankrupt they are terrible to customers
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Man...some of you don't seem to understand how the update process works. Weather HTC said this month or not it doesn't matter. You service provider has final say as to when you get your precious update.
As of yesterday give it take " update for the one x and one s will be November and December respectively"!
Take 2 seconds and google it.
4.0.4 with sense 4 is pretty slick so I'm not sure why everyone has their panties in a bunch
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A lot of us have sim free devices, which means we don't have to rely on network providers, so in theory if HTC released the JB update for Europe, every sim free one s that was bought from Europe should have the JB update by the end of the week, likewise for USA etc. Network locked/branded phones have to wait.
Sim free device means it comes down to the CID number.
Although with the way things worked out for the last update, it sounds like you're better of with branded phones
Take 5-10 seconds to read this thread, I already posted that quote in this thread already......
Regarding as to if JB will make a difference or not, many people who have the GS 3 have said the difference in smoothness is pretty big coming from ICS and from my experience the GS 3 is smoother than the S, just not as nippy/speedy though.
Besides there is more to it than just project butter:
- notification tray UI update
- improvement in battery slightly
- improvements in sense such as themes for the SMS sense app, camera UI, battery history/graph
No doubt there will be other improvements, possibly improving signal/wifi performance even more.
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Man...some of you don't seem to understand how the update process works. Weather HTC said this month or not it doesn't matter. You service provider has final say as to when you get your precious update.
As of yesterday give it take " update for the one x and one s will be November and December respectively"!
Take 2 seconds and google it.
4.0.4 with sense 4 is pretty slick so I'm not sure why everyone has their panties in a bunch
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Mines sim free not branded and should get it straight away also once devs get their hands on the software they can implement it into their roms so technically we are just waiting for HTC and they don't stick to their deadlines
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I'm just going to throw this in here also... Coming from a family who has ran a small business, deadlines are hard to keep. You may think with 100% certainty that something will be done by then, but something else pops up and you have to focus on that.
Even with HTC being a bigger company they have a TON of other things to worry about, not going out of business for one. There's no way HTC has as many developers on board as Samsung and Google at the moment, not to mention how much more work goes into Sense UI than Touchwiz.
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I'm just going to throw this in here also... Coming from a family who has ran a small business, deadlines are hard to keep. You may think with 100% certainty that something will be done by then, but something else pops up and you have to focus on that.
Even with HTC being a bigger company they have a TON of other things to worry about, not going out of business for one. There's no way HTC has as many developers on board as Samsung and Google at the moment, not to mention how much more work goes into Sense UI than Touchwiz.
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Not only that, but do you remember a few years ago when phones didn't update firmware or software at all?! As someone already mentioned, the recent OTA update is great, and gets any job done for all intents and purposes. This is a case of wanting the shiny new thing right away - I say you're lucky you don't have to buy a new phone to get it at all, IMHO.
If you can give a solid example how JB will fix a major problem, or make your Android-Phone-using life drastically better, I'll reconsider. In the mean time I'm more than happy with what I have.
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Not only that, but do you remember a few years ago when phones didn't update firmware or software at all?! As someone already mentioned, the recent OTA update is great, and gets any job done for all intents and purposes. This is a case of wanting the shiny new thing right away - I say you're lucky you don't have to buy a new phone to get it at all, IMHO.
If you can give a solid example how JB will fix a major problem, or make your Android-Phone-using life drastically better, I'll reconsider. In the mean time I'm more than happy with what I have.
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Couldn't agree more. I don't see how much better my phone can get, it does anything and everything I want it to. It lasts me more than all day, except if I play heavy games (Which is a given with any phone...)
If you want fast updates, and a lot of them go to a iphone.
Everyone is nagging on HTC, while not enjoying what they have.
Jellybean will not drop until after the one x+ drops. Count on it. That's how they get that small percentage of impatient people to upgrade.
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but give HTC a break.
I mean, it is them but it is us too.
Several companies haven't even pushed ICS yet.
And are you kidding? Not many things changed, just an addition of Google Now and some other things. I would understand if they like promised like 5.0 Kandy Kane/Key Lime Pie/Krispy Kreme or whatever, but no.
The update is also confirmed to start rolling out in October-November.
HTC no longer announces dates for release of software due to the nature of the software development process. At any point in the software development cycle a situation may be encountered that requires anything from some minor additional rework, to complete rewrites of the software base. Only after the final acceptance testing has been successfully completed will HTC release software. The normal time period between the final acceptance testing and release of software is about a week and often shorter than that.
Also, look at other companies. Samsung, Huawei, Sony, Alcatel, etc. All companies are never sure when they are going to release it. I'm sure it's not easy to develop something for ever single device and customize everything to a liking. All phone companies lie.
Hope that helps!
I also think the main reason they could be late is because of rebasing it on 4.1.2 instead of 4.1.1, to avoid another update in the future.
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Hi guys !
If you look at the link below, it says (in French sorry :/) that the htc one x & s (SFR branded) will be updated on the 6th November. It also mentions that they are now validating internally the update.
http://android.sfr.fr/htc-one-xs-sfr/
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Jellybean will not drop until after the one x+ drops. Count on it. That's how they get that small percentage of impatient people to upgrade.
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This.
I am sure JB has been ready for quite a while now, well most certainly for the one X anyway.
Only reason they don't release it for the X is due to the above, another selling point for the X+.
Exact same happened with the GS 3 and the GS 3 LTE model in the UK, only in the last few days have GS 3 UK owners been getting the JB update despite the LTE model being out for a month or a few weeks iirc. Only difference between them is one has an extra GB of RAM and is LTE supported.
I am in no rush at all really, however, I would like to get the update before the end of the year though especially since I can't see us getting 4.2.....
Here is just a glimpse preview of what JB and the new sense will bring, it is for the X though and some stuff isn't right i.e. we do have the notifications new features, which shows more detail.
http://www.neowin.net/news/htc-sense-4-review-how-it-should-have-been-from-the-start
Why don't u think we will be getting 4.2? Do u think one x will be getting 4
2?
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Why don't u think we will be getting 4.2? Do u think one x will be getting 4
2?
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The one X will.
I just have a funny feeling the s won't, due to it not being popular at all, HTC have a whole bunch of new android phones out and will be releasing even more in the next 1-2 months meaning less time and money to spend on older devices. Plus we have only had like 2 updates since the phone released, where as the X has had around 4-5.
Of course, I could be completely wrong and really hope I am.
Although if the XL gets the update (and am pretty sure it will), then there is absolutely no reason why they can't provide the update to the S as well.....
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Hi guys !
If you look at the link below, it says (in French sorry :/) that the htc one x & s (SFR branded) will be updated on the 6th November. It also mentions that they are now validating internally the update.
http://android.sfr.fr/htc-one-xs-sfr/
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*facepalm*
That's for the European version, not the USA version.