I recently rooted my Mytouch 4G Slide (s-off) and have been trying out several roms, my favorite of which are: Blue6IX's Bulletproof rom, Virtuous Primadonna, and Virtuous Inquisition. I like all of these, since each have their benefits over the other. Bulletproof is more solid and maintains the ability to use all stock features, most importantly the camera. The Virtuous roms are both visually more exciting (Inquisition is an ICS style rom), BUT the camera crashes if you even try certain camera features or some random things fail like trying to send a photo via text. All those pros and cons aside, the main feature keeping me on Virtuous Inquisition is the overclock kernel. It overclocks up to 1.7Ghz, and that's damn cool if you ask me.
Since the Virtuous roms have so many issues, I want to be able to use a rom like Bulletproof and still be able to overclock it. I looked all over this forum for overclock info/kernels and found just 2 threads. One was an older one by Romanbb called Kanged (still available for download), the other was from Blue6IX including several variations of kernels (but none of the download links exist anymore).
Then I did some more research on the kernel used in the Inquisition rom. Everything I read pointed to a developer that, apparently, only has overclock kernels for the HTC Sensation (can't think of his name at the moment). This seemed a little strange that a kernel for a different phone would be compatible with mine.
So this is where I reached a dead end with even more questions than I started with:
Are overclock kernels specific to each device? In other words: if I found one for a Sensation or whatever, would I be able to use it with my MT4GS?
Since Romanbb's "Kanged" OC kernel seems to be the only one still available for the MT4GS, would it still be compatible with newer roms? And for that matter, does is have to be used with a particular version of Android, or Sense vs ICS?
You see, I don't know enough about overclock kernels (or even kernels, themselves) to know all the right questions to ask in this situation. All I know is that Bulletproof has the stability I want, while Inquisition has the speed I need. And before I go cutting & pasting bits and pieces of one rom into another, I'd like to know what I should be doing or if I'm even on the right path. So maybe someone can point me in the right direction and help me to understand compatibility of oc kernels & how they can/can't be implemented. Also, where the hell do I even find oc kernels for this model of phone?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me to understand all of this. And I apologize in advance for any headache my abundance of questions and lack-of-understanding may cause.
All of the ICS/JB roms that use the v3 kernel by TeamDS are overclocked to 1.7ghz as well. Oh and don't flash a Sensation kernel...you wont boot. Also I'm not sure but I think the latest bulletproof (v1.1) has overclock to 1.7
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All of the ICS/JB roms that use the v3 kernel by TeamDS are overclocked to 1.7ghz as well. Oh and don't flash a Sensation kernel...you wont boot. Also I'm not sure but I think the latest bulletproof (v1.1) has overclock to 1.7
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I'll check those out. I've noticed there's a common trend between all ICS roms for the MT4GS: they all have the same camera failures as well as plenty of other random issues, although some have more than others. So I'm hesitant about trying any ICS roms older than a couple months, since it seems that a truly stable ICS rom for this phone with minimal issues doesnt exist yet. But yes, I will check it out.
As for Bulletproof, if it does have overclock then something is wrong because I tried SetCPU (several others as well) and I wasn't able to set a max frequency higher than 1200-ish mhz (or 1100 something?). No matter what I tried the frequency stayed at stock settings. Thats why I'm trying to find out where to find a compatible oc kernel and how to install/flash it on top of a rom that didn't originally have an oc kernel.
With the Virtuous Inquisition rom that I'm currently on, it allows a max of 1728mhz which is great. Although for some reason whenever I set up a new profile within SetCPU or even change the Min/Max settings, the setting doesn't have an effect on the actual frequency longer than a couple seconds before reverting back to default. And I tried disabling Perflock but I get "Error: Misc Exception.. ". Which brings me back to my original thought about the kernel used in this rom; I found the name of the dev and kernel version used in this rom: "SebastianFM -Sensation 3.0.13 kernel". When I looked up that guy's kernels, they all seem to be exclusively for the Sensation, but his kernels are being used in this Inquisition rom that is compatible for the Sensation, Evo3D, and MT4GS. So the fact that this (apparently) is a Sensation kernel might explain why my settings in SetCPU have no effect and I'm unable to disable Perflock.
Still though, it would be nice to get the best of both worlds; stable rom, fast-as-hell kernel.
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Thanks. Didn't know that, I figured this was a development-related question so the "Development" section made sense, and I made sure I labeled it with a "( ? )" to avoid any confusion. My mistake, I suppose. And although I've been a long time reader of this forum, I didn't set up an account til last fall and hadn't actually started a thread til now. Now I know. Soo, is there a way to move this thread and I'm just not seeing it?
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Now I know. Soo, is there a way to move this thread and I'm just not seeing it?
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No, you are not allowed to move threads, even if you created them.
The post was reported, and the thread moved. For future reference, you can do this as well - but also for future reference, no questions should ever be in the Development section. Thanks!
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I want to flash the lordmod kernel with the -50 undervolt but whenever I don't use the stock kernel on miui my camera doesn't work or my wireless tethering goes out. Is there any way I could get this kernel and have both work? Also how much can you undervolt MIUI without it causing any problems?
Heres the link for lordmod kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1020637
Also what is the difference between BFQhs and VIO
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I don't know about MIUI, but on CM7 I just tried flashing it on a stable version and got those problem. Later found out that it was for the nightlies. Maybe there is a older version of lordmod that will work for you?
Why not go into the threads of the rom/kernel in question and see if perhaps this problem has already been encountered? It may be faster and provide solutions tailored to your needs.
I doubt you're the first person to have run into issues like this.
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Why not go into the threads of the rom/kernel in question and see if perhaps this problem has already been encountered? It may be faster and provide solutions tailored to your needs.
I doubt you're the first person to have run into issues like this.
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Agreed. There's a recent thread here in the general forum,where someone explained that all phones handle things differently so even if someone tells you what they undervolted to on miui,it mite not work for you. Best bet is to play around with different settings to see what's gives you the best results
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The latest LordMod kernel... read the first two posts and the last five or so to get a feel for how it works for others.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085725
Camera works fine for me on the latest (1.6.10 v3) MIUI and overall its really quick.
I'm using it with SetCPU at 1.1 ghz/230 mhz.
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Hello guys,
I am still rocking the stock ROM with ADW EX, s-off and rooted with the .5 version of CWM.
I see new ROMs popping up that are without sense. I used TB to freeze two Sense applications that I could see on the list. I was wondering, what else is being removed from Sense for these Senseless ROMs?
Also, it seems the majority include overclocking. Some look to use setCPU. Could you check your SuperUser logs to see if SetCPU is requesting permission thousands of times a day? Mine was and was causing my phone to freeze up, so I removed it and found my battery to last much longer. (I was OC to 1.5Ghz, but had some govs in place). I believe that setCPU doesnt work right with the stock ROM, using the old methods that the temp rooters used.
Thanks guys!
Matt
I'm currently running android revolution HD no sense rom. If you look at the second post of that thread you can see what's removed and what's kept (link).
As for Setcpu, i never used it. This rom has a build in overclock script called OC Daemon. And works like a charm.
Ive been running this Kernel now for a while at 1.83 and have had no hiccups whatsoever and was wondering if someone was going to cook up a kernel with higher clock speeds (tried posting this question in the appropriate thread but since I'm a new member (skilled none the less) it wouldn't allow me to)
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Ive been running this Kernel now for a while at 1.83 and have had no hiccups whatsoever and was wondering if someone was going to cook up a kernel with higher clock speeds (tried posting this question in the appropriate thread but since I'm a new member (skilled none the less) it wouldn't allow me to)
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use .3 you can oc more. but its not recommended by da_g!
Thank you appdroid, Ill check it out.
Tried it and although its only 30mhz more it was locking up and causing some issues. Im not so sure it was the increase in speed but maybe the voltage differences (I'm using the 1325V version) and maybe some of the other mods he made to .42 that made it more stable. Hope he can increase the options on his newer releases. Awesome Kernel though, kudos to da_g on his work.
I'm sorry about the long post if you want to get straight to my question, skip the first paragraph
I was avoiding this because it is a fairly noob question set (and I've seen a history of new members on XDA being berated for questions that could have been answered by any amount of research and I'm unsure whether my question set will fall into that category), but I just can't do anymore research since most information I'm finding is not in one place and I can't seem to find a full feature list for any of the ROMs and Kernels I research and look into, and on top of that there are SOOO many.... I'm about to pull my hair out of my head and my skull along with it, and every search engine I use is contemplating homicide (google has divorced me and is planning my murder for the life insurance money, and duck-duck-go is biting my heels with its bill) and firefox is planning a suicide bombing taking the 50 or more tabs with it along with my RAM, and I'm not terribly sure any of those actions aren't justified (and also, as you can probably tell, I'm going NUTS!). Just the amount of information and the amount of digging I have to do to find a single answer for the MANY questions I have regarding these ROMs and Kernels is staggering (I remember having similar problems searching to find the right linux distribution for me, but it wasn't this hard and after 2 or more weeks of searching, I didn't find myself not having any substantial answer, nor did it actually take two weeks)
anyways, enough with the crazy intro to the question
My current phone is a Nexus S 4g (sprint) currently running the stock ROM and Kernel, gingerbread 2.3.7 (build GWK74). I have it rooted and I have clockwork mod recovery flashed as well as ROM manager installed. I'm looking for ROM and Kernel recommendations (and combinations, I want to make sure they're compatible) as well as reasons why they might fit my needs
I need a ROM and Kernel that:
1. Won't reduce any of the current features I have on the Stock ROM/Kernel I have (though I don't use NFC so if google wallet isn't applicable, that's not a loss)
2. Will allow more steps in frequencies on my CPU (so CPUtuner won't tell me it can only go between 100Mhz and 1Ghz when I attempt to manually change the frequency, I can get one governor to get me 400mhz, but that only adds one more step to the 2 current steps, and performance and powersave governors don't work with the stock kernel, not that it's a big deal, I prefer conservative and ondemand)
3. will allow voodoo control & voodoo color (or any other feature that might be useful, though BLN isn't a big deal to me)
4. Has better battery life (while in use, use being things similar to internet browsing) than stock ROM/Kernel (so UI flare isn't completely necessary, and underclocking and/or undervolting would be great, as long as it doesn't sacrifice speed)
5. The UI should be less jittery than I'm seeing the stock react half the time (though that might be an effect of the CPU tuner)
6. I would like overclocking (however if that interferes with battery life, then I can live without it as long as it doesn't make the speed worse than stock)
7. this coincides with #1, but I think it should be said anyways: I don't want any connectivity (besides maybe NFC) to be affected adversely, so I want 4g, 3g (given), wifi, tethering, etc...
a few questions I have that I can't seem to clear up:
1. I'm beginning to develop software for android, so I'm wondering if any ROM and/or Kernel will affect ADB or any connection to my PC at all
2. What advantages do CM7.1 nightlies have over the CM7.1 stable, and any disadvantages (because I would prefer stable unless there's something on the nightlies I might want)
3. And any advantages ICS ports might have to anything listed above? and compatible kernels?
well, I have done some research, and the two ROMs I'm currently considering are Oxygen and CM7.1 (stable). I like Oxygen because it's a barebones rom with a few extra features that (from what I've seen thus far) don't interfere with performance or battery life. I like CM7.1 because it seems to be fairly quick and has a good feature set.
now I know that the performance might be more affected by the kernel than the ROM, so the kernels I've been most interested in are Netarchy and Trinity. Netarchy has decent speeds (though I'm unsure of its effect on battery life) and has a great list of features (such as voodoo control). Trinity is fast (depending on which version, I was debating on the overclocked version that doesn't go to the highest clock setting and the undervolted version which stayed at 1ghz but had great powersaving) because of its speed and/or powersaving, but I'm unsure of all of the features it has)
I had read that CM has its own kernel, but I can't find any substantial evidence to it besides a few short forum posts on various forums. I can't find anything on the CM site that backs up those claims (I could have just missed it though)
I was considering MIUI but I had heard that it had some translation problems from chinese into english and I'm not sure if you can get the text to read from left to right (and be alligned that way). Not sure if that has been fixed and if the features on there are necessary and/or make it difficult to use
I'm asking here because I'm sure I've barely scratched the surface on all of the ROMs and Kernels that might be helpful to me (and hope to get info from more knowledgeable people)
I have been referring to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067813
I'm sure somethings I want aren't possible or if they are, there's negligible gain (I'm starting to thing that about battery life with the more I read)
once again, I apologize for the extremely long post, as you can tell I'm verbose (as it's really the only way I know how to get my point across)
if you need further information, feel free to ask. If any information needs to be cut off (especially if this needs to be cut shorter) let me know
I hate to do this but
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my main problem with this is that most of these roms and kernels seem to do the same thing but all have different problems
I've also found that some versions are more buggy then others which has thrown yet another curve ball into my research (not as bad as ICS but bad enough). I should have expected it but it's just one more thing to go digging for
an answer at all would be nice, other than just the views with no post. Even if the next person's answer is "this is stupid" or something of the like
even that would help me believe it or not
Honestly, your answer is the same one everyone else gets. Try them out and see. Most of the kernels out there should work with any of the ROMs, even the stock ROM. Personally, I have had no real issues with any ROM/kernel combo I have tried. I use CM because I am so used to the features they add and I dislike the stock GB theme. I'm using the last nightly cm7 had because there was something they didn't have in the stable but I don't recall what that was. But most any ROM or kernel you get for gB is likely done being developed for. The combination in my signature serves me very well. A lot of people do like oxygen. I just missed cm too much. Most of the kernels should allow for all of the wants you have.
I also ran cm9 with the glados kernel and honestly, it ran perfect for me. My only issue was with a few apps i use not wanting to cooperate.
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alright thanks (which the button did for me)
I understand that (and some threads I looked over had answers like that, so I figured someone might say something along the lines of "try it out") I was mostly looking for input from past users about some ROM or kernel
I just don't want to end up with a broken phone before I leave for a week or two (to a rural area for a couple of days)
thanks for the answer, all I really need to know now is have there been any problems with any of them running ADB or transferring files from PC to phone?
EDIT: well I'm going to continue trying to get android SDK working on my linux OS, and I'm going to install and run a few ROMs and Kernels
ROMs I'm going to try: CM7.1 Stable, Oxygen, CM9
Kernels: Netarchy, Trinity, matri1x, and glados (with CM9)
Why is the overclocking area on my Captivate greyed out after installing cm9 latest nightly???
I honestly do not have the time to read hundreds of pages of forums to see if someone has allready had this issue.
Of course i tried searches.
It happens on any cm9 nightly, not just the latest one.
I want to be back at 1.2ghz. being stuck at 1ghz. is rediculous to me after being so spoiled. (lots of google earth, gaming and other stuff that a higher clock speed helps with)
If I have to I will just go back to 2.3.7 and a swift 1.3ghz. MAX
BUT it seems like I should be able to overclock using CM9 on my captivate.
Please do not explain the system settings and performance yadda yadda yadda, anymore, i am obviously familiar enough with an android device to know how to use system settings etc. if i can root and install custom roms i can read and point and click as well.
Sorry for the frustruation but i seriously can not deal with anymore nonsense and 80 diff. pieces of broken info from people that only "heard from some guy" about how to do all this.
Thank you in advance... forever learning"!"
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Why is the overclocking area on my Captivate greyed out after installing cm9 latest nightly???
I honestly do not have the time to read hundreds of pages of forums to see if someone has allready had this issue.
Of course i tried searches.
It happens on any cm9 nightly, not just the latest one.
I want to be back at 1.2ghz. being stuck at 1ghz. is rediculous to me after being so spoiled. (lots of google earth, gaming and other stuff that a higher clock speed helps with)
If I have to I will just go back to 2.3.7 and a swift 1.3ghz. MAX
BUT it seems like I should be able to overclock using CM9 on my captivate.
Please do not explain the system settings and performance yadda yadda yadda, anymore, i am obviously familiar enough with an android device to know how to use system settings etc. if i can root and install custom roms i can read and point and click as well.
Sorry for the frustruation but i seriously can not deal with anymore nonsense and 80 diff. pieces of broken info from people that only "heard from some guy" about how to do all this.
Thank you in advance... forever learning"!"
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Were you using Glitch before, or some other custom kernel? I didn't think cyanogen's stock kernel supported overclock. If you install a new nightly you have to reinstall your overclocking kernel.
I have been using cyanogenmod only. I never purposefully installed a custom kernel then the rom. Just used Odin to root/clockwork and so forth. Never heard of Glitch. Through out all of my custom rom experiences with the captivate I have been able to use the sys. settings or osmonitor to overclock to a max of 1.3ghz. I have tried miui or whatever its called for about five minutes. other than that just cm6/7, then updated to cm9. in the past whatever kernel i had, stayed in effect, i guess.
I will do a search for custom kernels for cm9 on captivate.
I havent seen any yet, but who knows. I am used to simply stunning roms and the moto droid one. That was great! SS/chevy~ would always have links to the latest kernels avail. for the current builds etc. Good job too.
SO... the search continues.
*Mystery: If I cant even change cpu settings in osmonitor (up or down), yet it lets me enable root mode, what does that mean? The greyed out overclocking area in perfomance settings (up or down)???
I need to learn more"!"
As mentioned, glitch kernel b6 is a great ics kernel. Flash over CM9 and install nstools from the market to control all the kernel settings such as oc/uv, voltages etc etc.
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The options are greyed out because the stock kernel currently doesn't support overclocking. Glitch is awesome, and Semaphore kernel is pretty nice too.
Sent from my CM9 ICS i897 Captivate
IcyGlitch for OC, and Semaphore for 400MB mem.
Well Glitch has 387 MB of free RAM
both kernels are good
I want my 13 MB! They are unused so occupying them is unforgivable. IcyGlitch is solid kernel, and I hope 400MB will be added.
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Well Glitch has 387 MB of free RAM
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