Hello guys,
I am still rocking the stock ROM with ADW EX, s-off and rooted with the .5 version of CWM.
I see new ROMs popping up that are without sense. I used TB to freeze two Sense applications that I could see on the list. I was wondering, what else is being removed from Sense for these Senseless ROMs?
Also, it seems the majority include overclocking. Some look to use setCPU. Could you check your SuperUser logs to see if SetCPU is requesting permission thousands of times a day? Mine was and was causing my phone to freeze up, so I removed it and found my battery to last much longer. (I was OC to 1.5Ghz, but had some govs in place). I believe that setCPU doesnt work right with the stock ROM, using the old methods that the temp rooters used.
Thanks guys!
Matt
I'm currently running android revolution HD no sense rom. If you look at the second post of that thread you can see what's removed and what's kept (link).
As for Setcpu, i never used it. This rom has a build in overclock script called OC Daemon. And works like a charm.
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Hello,
I am running stock ROM with S-oFF and rooted. Ive got setCPU running via the methods used for temp root. (Basically pulled the code from the BAT files everyone used to overclock and temp root). It works alright, but after a reboot, I have to redo it.
I see people are running ROMs that include setCPU. How does a custom ROM manage to keep setCPU "set" after a reboot? Can the methods be used for the stock ROMers?
Also, I see that setCPU requests SU hundreds of times a day when I look at the SuperUser logs. Why is this? Is it bad?
Thanks,
Matt
They are using custom kernels and oc daemon.
Behold_this said:
They are using custom kernels and oc daemon.
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thank you for the reply! Is this something that a stock rom could implement in its own? Or, should I consider flashing a custom rom?
Thanks,
Matt
Its a little hit and miss right now unfortunately. The kernels can still be buggy on some devices, though they, in theory, should work on a stock device. If you have issues you can always just flash the stock kernel back. Some love it and have no issues, others not so much. In fact some devs have stopped bundling their kernels with their roms and leave them as optional add ons because of issues.
Is cm7 expected do implement overclocking? If so, I may just wait for them to finish.
Matt
Not sure...they are playing cm7 for the sensation very close to the chest, lol, but I don't think so. Just a guess though.
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Not sure...they are playing cm7 for the sensation very close to the chest, lol, but I don't think so. Just a guess though.
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Ahh...I guess that only time will tell what sort of advancements come in the way of overclocking (reliably and efficiently).
My theory is that setCPU is the cause for my headaches and may be the cause of most others using it as well. (Crappy battery despite conservative governors as well as phone freezes and data connectivity issues). Seeing setCPU request SU a few thousand times a day seems suspicious. I have it frozen for now, well see how things go.
Matt
I don't know for sure either, but I suspect you might be right, at least to an extent.
#*#LordMod vs talonAce#*#
okay, im new to the inspire but i have an honest question for those of you who are very experienced with the hardware and available linux kernels for cm7 on the inspire/DHD.
Please dont turn this into a quarrell of sorts, what im looking for is A. which kernel do you prefer to use whilst running cm7 on your inspire? B. why do you prefer this kernel over stock, or the other available kernels for our devices and C. are there any specific features that are available/active in the specified kernel that led to your decision.
I know how to read OP's, and I have read the OP's of both kernels mentioned here (BUUUTTTT please feel free to mention any compatible kernel with cm7 in this thread) but there are a lot of good/cool things going on with every kernel it seems, my main problem is i havent EVER seen my inspire lag... so i have nothing to compare performance to other than my galaxy s i had prior to this inspire that i had to tweak for weeks to get running half as smooth as ANY rom ive used on this inspire.
I'm currently on nightly 252 running TalonACE with the v6 supercharger script set to my usual setup (like 72mb ram is the highest oom value with the HTK launcher or die-hard launcher or whatever he calls it now) and I dont know what to do with myself! My phone is running so well that i cant figure out anything to flash to "improve" on anything because it seems this phone runs... well.. perfect all the time!
One more thing, if anybody has gotten ShadowGun (tegra2 optimized) to run on any particular kernel without freezing the phone (using CF3D of course) please share the CF3D settings used and kernel used to achieve such, my crappy laggy captivate could play shadowgun smoothly for hours with pretty much 1/2 the ram and power of this inspire and I would like to actually get it to run longer than 2.5 minutes
any and all input encouraged!
Threads like this will always lead to a flame war on which is best. That is why they are not allowed.
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Well, since getting my HTC Glacier last April, I've been on XDA quite frequently. Actually daily. Never gotten around to registering though. Just starting this thread to complete my 10 post requirement to post help/fixes on the development forum here. Since getting my Glacier last year I've had numerous ROMs. Many from the Virtuous Team, including the first sense 3.0 leak ROM, Fusion. Then from there to Unity from the official shipped RUU for the Pyramid. Knowing Sense ROM's use a lot of resources to make it all flashy, I wanted to try out a battery friendly ROM. I had some problems with CM7. It was nice, fast, and easy on the battery, except in the build I downloaded there was a connection bug that would render the data/wifi useless until I restarted the phone. From there I saw the Virtuous Team release their sense 3.5 ROM Affinity, I tried it for a while but once again, like all sense ROMs it was quite the battery hog. I decided from there to go to the weekly builds of MIUI from thederekjay. It was my daily driver for quite the long running. Until recently Ice Cream Sandwich ROM's flooded the development threads so I thought I'd try Febyc's AOSP Creamed Glacier. I ran that from the first beta release until I switched over to the Virtuous Quattro port by Febyc. And ran that until a few days ago I flashed Zipsnets build of Creamed Glacier which had the camera fix. Since then I haven't seen a smoother build of Ice Cream Sandwich for the HTC Glacier. So comes to today, currently running that same build by Zipsnet as previously stated. Loving it. Waiting until Virtuous Primadonna comes out of Alpha to try out sense 4.0 for a couple days depending on the battery usage. Oh, left out a few things. Tweaks I have used that have helped my glacier fly are as follows:
V6 SuperCharger
gps.conf tweaks to speed up GPS fix
Juice Defender battery saver [Ultimate]
ILWT Tools (free), app to tweak governors/cpu speed using screen on, screen off, charging, low battery, and temperature using a built in Daemon. Like implemented in newer virtuous ROMs
Feel free to check out/use any of the above tweaks to help make your phone an iPhone killer!!!
Awesome. Good to have another undiscovered MT4G user
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Awesome. Good to have another undiscovered MT4G user
Sent from my Sense 3.6 Glacier using XDA Premium.
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I'm quite the procrastinator for things haha. Used to have a Blackberry curve 8520 before this phone. I came over from IPMart Forum BBOSZone, tried to find a similar forum for Android but couldn't so I went here after being told about the amazingness of XDA. I was impressed when I came here. Have to say XDA has been my phone's savior many times over. I wouldn't be surprised if it is in the future as well. Helped me root the phone, hardest thing for me to do while pushing g-free files and then it still didn't work with visonary temp-root then perm-root method. But the oddest thing happened. After pushing the g-free files to the phone and running, unsuccessfully, I was able to SuperOneClick the root oddly enough. Keep in mind that the SuperOneClick method did not work prior to g-free attempt at root. I was finally at peace when I found out I had s-off and root. Following my root, the tweaks I applied, beside the ones posted in the OP, were a modified boot image. It reads "rooted MyTouch 4g" with the Android Central crossed arms android on it. Flashed CWM, duh! Flashed a new ROM because stock froyo sucked major ballsack. Experimented overclocking applications. Looking back I see what I n00b I was to tweaks and crap. I had no F***ing clue what a kernel was or what it did to your phone. Or what a governor was. Etc, etc etc. . . But obviously, after a **** ton of indulging my flash addiction, I have done sooooo many things I can't even remember, I have gotten to a phase where I could successfully aid Developers in Debugging and ROM testing and help other users solve problems such as maximizing your battery life on your phone. From kernels to ROMs to init.d scripts to root file modifications. Pretty much any type of tweak or modification that any power user could use without having to develop it themselves. My philosophy is simply:
Let the developers develop ROM's, tweaks, and modifications, and let the users use the ROM's, tweaks, and modifications to their own discretion. I'm glad to join the HTC Glacier XDA Forum.
Looking back to a few weeks ago, I wish I had been a little more thorough, and read more before I altered my phone. My first few posts were made in an absolute panicked state of mind, because I didn't know anything about rooting or flashing! (I flashed a Rom and didnt flash the boot.img which had me stuck on bootscreen) I started out by doing the HTC unlocking, which was the biggest mistake I made. But now, I have everything under control, running Black Ice. But the point of this post was to say that I really respect how you chose to kick back and be patient, which is something I didn't do but should have! I now understand what I am doing, which makes things easier on all involved. Welcome to XDA..
Sent from my Black Ice'd Glacier using xda premium
I would suggest you try the hybrid ics with AOKP and Zipsnets build. It's an odexed ROM but runs faster than a mother f***er. After you flash, I would suggest you, if you are a battery life enthusiast, to try the V6 Supercharger scripts found in the OP. Zepplinrox has three downloadable scripts to tweak your built in memory manager and a 3G supercharger script to speed up your data (you can confirm via speedtest) as well as kick ass kernelizer which tweaks your kernel and changes your I/O scheduler to support long battery life with a lag free environment. You use script manager to run the installation scripts and with this ROM, you need to navigate to your init.d folder and set the supercharger scripts to run as root and run at boot so when you restart your phone the tweaks will be enabled. Also, I would recommend ILWT tools, a GUI that installs an OC daemon to the root of your phone that allows faster profile switching without running a 3rd party app to do so. As with the supercharger scripts, ILWT tools installs an init.d script which needs to be set to run as root and run at boot in order to enable the OC Daemon. With this ROM, juice defender isn't needed because the built in ROM control has power saver settings that mimic juice defender, so you can save memory with one less background app and battery with the effectiveness of juice defender, and for free. It runs great on this ROM and all the OP tweaks can be applied to any ROM, giving you the same effectiveness as posted here. I just can't attest to a ROM I haven't tested any tweaks on.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA
Why is the overclocking area on my Captivate greyed out after installing cm9 latest nightly???
I honestly do not have the time to read hundreds of pages of forums to see if someone has allready had this issue.
Of course i tried searches.
It happens on any cm9 nightly, not just the latest one.
I want to be back at 1.2ghz. being stuck at 1ghz. is rediculous to me after being so spoiled. (lots of google earth, gaming and other stuff that a higher clock speed helps with)
If I have to I will just go back to 2.3.7 and a swift 1.3ghz. MAX
BUT it seems like I should be able to overclock using CM9 on my captivate.
Please do not explain the system settings and performance yadda yadda yadda, anymore, i am obviously familiar enough with an android device to know how to use system settings etc. if i can root and install custom roms i can read and point and click as well.
Sorry for the frustruation but i seriously can not deal with anymore nonsense and 80 diff. pieces of broken info from people that only "heard from some guy" about how to do all this.
Thank you in advance... forever learning"!"
yellowfuse said:
Why is the overclocking area on my Captivate greyed out after installing cm9 latest nightly???
I honestly do not have the time to read hundreds of pages of forums to see if someone has allready had this issue.
Of course i tried searches.
It happens on any cm9 nightly, not just the latest one.
I want to be back at 1.2ghz. being stuck at 1ghz. is rediculous to me after being so spoiled. (lots of google earth, gaming and other stuff that a higher clock speed helps with)
If I have to I will just go back to 2.3.7 and a swift 1.3ghz. MAX
BUT it seems like I should be able to overclock using CM9 on my captivate.
Please do not explain the system settings and performance yadda yadda yadda, anymore, i am obviously familiar enough with an android device to know how to use system settings etc. if i can root and install custom roms i can read and point and click as well.
Sorry for the frustruation but i seriously can not deal with anymore nonsense and 80 diff. pieces of broken info from people that only "heard from some guy" about how to do all this.
Thank you in advance... forever learning"!"
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Were you using Glitch before, or some other custom kernel? I didn't think cyanogen's stock kernel supported overclock. If you install a new nightly you have to reinstall your overclocking kernel.
I have been using cyanogenmod only. I never purposefully installed a custom kernel then the rom. Just used Odin to root/clockwork and so forth. Never heard of Glitch. Through out all of my custom rom experiences with the captivate I have been able to use the sys. settings or osmonitor to overclock to a max of 1.3ghz. I have tried miui or whatever its called for about five minutes. other than that just cm6/7, then updated to cm9. in the past whatever kernel i had, stayed in effect, i guess.
I will do a search for custom kernels for cm9 on captivate.
I havent seen any yet, but who knows. I am used to simply stunning roms and the moto droid one. That was great! SS/chevy~ would always have links to the latest kernels avail. for the current builds etc. Good job too.
SO... the search continues.
*Mystery: If I cant even change cpu settings in osmonitor (up or down), yet it lets me enable root mode, what does that mean? The greyed out overclocking area in perfomance settings (up or down)???
I need to learn more"!"
As mentioned, glitch kernel b6 is a great ics kernel. Flash over CM9 and install nstools from the market to control all the kernel settings such as oc/uv, voltages etc etc.
Sent from my glitched ICS Captivate using XDA App
The options are greyed out because the stock kernel currently doesn't support overclocking. Glitch is awesome, and Semaphore kernel is pretty nice too.
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IcyGlitch for OC, and Semaphore for 400MB mem.
Well Glitch has 387 MB of free RAM
both kernels are good
I want my 13 MB! They are unused so occupying them is unforgivable. IcyGlitch is solid kernel, and I hope 400MB will be added.
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Well Glitch has 387 MB of free RAM
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I recently rooted my Mytouch 4G Slide (s-off) and have been trying out several roms, my favorite of which are: Blue6IX's Bulletproof rom, Virtuous Primadonna, and Virtuous Inquisition. I like all of these, since each have their benefits over the other. Bulletproof is more solid and maintains the ability to use all stock features, most importantly the camera. The Virtuous roms are both visually more exciting (Inquisition is an ICS style rom), BUT the camera crashes if you even try certain camera features or some random things fail like trying to send a photo via text. All those pros and cons aside, the main feature keeping me on Virtuous Inquisition is the overclock kernel. It overclocks up to 1.7Ghz, and that's damn cool if you ask me.
Since the Virtuous roms have so many issues, I want to be able to use a rom like Bulletproof and still be able to overclock it. I looked all over this forum for overclock info/kernels and found just 2 threads. One was an older one by Romanbb called Kanged (still available for download), the other was from Blue6IX including several variations of kernels (but none of the download links exist anymore).
Then I did some more research on the kernel used in the Inquisition rom. Everything I read pointed to a developer that, apparently, only has overclock kernels for the HTC Sensation (can't think of his name at the moment). This seemed a little strange that a kernel for a different phone would be compatible with mine.
So this is where I reached a dead end with even more questions than I started with:
Are overclock kernels specific to each device? In other words: if I found one for a Sensation or whatever, would I be able to use it with my MT4GS?
Since Romanbb's "Kanged" OC kernel seems to be the only one still available for the MT4GS, would it still be compatible with newer roms? And for that matter, does is have to be used with a particular version of Android, or Sense vs ICS?
You see, I don't know enough about overclock kernels (or even kernels, themselves) to know all the right questions to ask in this situation. All I know is that Bulletproof has the stability I want, while Inquisition has the speed I need. And before I go cutting & pasting bits and pieces of one rom into another, I'd like to know what I should be doing or if I'm even on the right path. So maybe someone can point me in the right direction and help me to understand compatibility of oc kernels & how they can/can't be implemented. Also, where the hell do I even find oc kernels for this model of phone?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me to understand all of this. And I apologize in advance for any headache my abundance of questions and lack-of-understanding may cause.
All of the ICS/JB roms that use the v3 kernel by TeamDS are overclocked to 1.7ghz as well. Oh and don't flash a Sensation kernel...you wont boot. Also I'm not sure but I think the latest bulletproof (v1.1) has overclock to 1.7
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All of the ICS/JB roms that use the v3 kernel by TeamDS are overclocked to 1.7ghz as well. Oh and don't flash a Sensation kernel...you wont boot. Also I'm not sure but I think the latest bulletproof (v1.1) has overclock to 1.7
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I'll check those out. I've noticed there's a common trend between all ICS roms for the MT4GS: they all have the same camera failures as well as plenty of other random issues, although some have more than others. So I'm hesitant about trying any ICS roms older than a couple months, since it seems that a truly stable ICS rom for this phone with minimal issues doesnt exist yet. But yes, I will check it out.
As for Bulletproof, if it does have overclock then something is wrong because I tried SetCPU (several others as well) and I wasn't able to set a max frequency higher than 1200-ish mhz (or 1100 something?). No matter what I tried the frequency stayed at stock settings. Thats why I'm trying to find out where to find a compatible oc kernel and how to install/flash it on top of a rom that didn't originally have an oc kernel.
With the Virtuous Inquisition rom that I'm currently on, it allows a max of 1728mhz which is great. Although for some reason whenever I set up a new profile within SetCPU or even change the Min/Max settings, the setting doesn't have an effect on the actual frequency longer than a couple seconds before reverting back to default. And I tried disabling Perflock but I get "Error: Misc Exception.. ". Which brings me back to my original thought about the kernel used in this rom; I found the name of the dev and kernel version used in this rom: "SebastianFM -Sensation 3.0.13 kernel". When I looked up that guy's kernels, they all seem to be exclusively for the Sensation, but his kernels are being used in this Inquisition rom that is compatible for the Sensation, Evo3D, and MT4GS. So the fact that this (apparently) is a Sensation kernel might explain why my settings in SetCPU have no effect and I'm unable to disable Perflock.
Still though, it would be nice to get the best of both worlds; stable rom, fast-as-hell kernel.
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Thanks. Didn't know that, I figured this was a development-related question so the "Development" section made sense, and I made sure I labeled it with a "( ? )" to avoid any confusion. My mistake, I suppose. And although I've been a long time reader of this forum, I didn't set up an account til last fall and hadn't actually started a thread til now. Now I know. Soo, is there a way to move this thread and I'm just not seeing it?
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Now I know. Soo, is there a way to move this thread and I'm just not seeing it?
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No, you are not allowed to move threads, even if you created them.
The post was reported, and the thread moved. For future reference, you can do this as well - but also for future reference, no questions should ever be in the Development section. Thanks!