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Hey all,
I've tried on multiple occasions now to overclock my phone, using both the Trinity & Netarchy (1.1) kernel, everytime I have done so however it will put me into a bootloop, sometimes not getting past the nexus boot animation or lock screen, I'm sure that I'm doing everything right
1. Wipe data/cache
2. Flash ROM (I've tried Stock, Bionic, CM & Modaco, which I use currently.)
3. Boot
4. Flash kernel
5. Boot
I've no idea what's going on, I've just about given up, perhaps I've been handed a crappy piece of silicon, should have returned it before it was too late
Any help appreciated anyways, peacee.
Instead of flashing the ROM and then immediately applying the kernel, let the phone completely reboot. Then go back into recovery and flash the new kernel. Should work.
I've tried this already dude, probably should of mentioned it in my steps cheers anyhows
risegeek said:
I've tried this already dude, probably should of mentioned it in my steps cheers anyhows
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Which variations of the Trinity and Netarchy kernels have you tried and for which rom?
kenvan19 said:
Which variations of the Trinity and Netarchy kernels have you tried and for which rom?
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I've tried Trinity 1.2 > 1.4 on Modaco, Bionix & Cyanogen platforms
I've tried Netarchy 1.1 > Modaco & Cyanogen (1.0 was actually working but following the thread it wasn't actually applying the overclock )
risegeek said:
I've tried Trinity 1.2 > 1.4 on Modaco, Bionix & Cyanogen platforms
I've tried Netarchy 1.1 > Modaco & Cyanogen (1.0 was actually working but following the thread it wasn't actually applying the overclock )
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Have you tried Netarchy 1.2 yet? I've had a lot of issues with CM7, including kernels. Sometimes I would have to just flash the kernel 3 times and then it would work. Now I'm using MoDaCo and it is infinitely more stable. I've noticed the trinity kernels tend to be a little more volatile and hit or miss than the Netarchy one seems to be. If it is really of grave concern to you, if you live in an area where a return would be easily possible and if you are within your return period, return it and try a different slice of silicon
I've actually had this phone since release date, sadly I am out of the return period, I don't really mind all that much, this phone has been amazing coming from a constantly slow and crashing iPhone 3G.
I've just downloaded the new kernel from Netarchy, it seems to address stability issues regarding voltage, which I think it might be. I'll flash it and update this post in a second.
EDIT: Hasn't helped seems to be looping at the Google screen now.
Same thing is happening to me. I've had my phone since launch date and I can't seem to get it to overclock more than 1.3ghz (which is very unstable). It's so frustrating when people are posting pictures of 4000+ score on quadrant and I get a bootloop instead. I really hope they can tweak it so that people like us can run at these higher frequencies.
What the heck? I keep hitting edit but it keeps quoting =( please delete.
sanketrino said:
Same thing is happening to me. I've had my phone since launch date and I can't seem to get it to overclock more than 1.3ghz (which is very unstable). It's so frustrating when people are posting pictures of 4000+ score on quadrant and I get a bootloop instead. I really hope they can tweak it so that people like us can run at these higher frequencies.
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Have you tried Netarchy's kernel? A link to his thread is in my sig and it works great for me. It will boot you to 1GHz then using SetCPU (which can be attained for free on XDA, legally, just search for it. The Dev posted it) you can up the clock speed. You should take note however that the Nexus S is damned fast stock. I typically run my phone at 1.2GHz unless I want to show off to my friends and then I bump it up hehe
EDIT: Thank you also for not posting a new thread about this Its nice to see people using the search function!
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I'm using netarchy's kernel right now at 1.3ghz but as soon as i go to 1.4ghz it crashes which is slightly annoying. 1.3ghz is much more stable now though.
sanketrino said:
I'm using netarchy's kernel right now at 1.3ghz but as soon as i go to 1.4ghz it crashes which is slightly annoying. 1.3ghz is much more stable now though.
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Odd...for my own testing purposes I've been running at 1.4GHz (testing battery life vs other clock speeds) since yesterday and haven't had a single crash. What ROM are you using?
I'm using modaco r10 and correction to my earlier post, 1.3ghz on netarchy's kernel isn't much better than trinity. Ran Nfs shift for 5 seconds and it rebooted.
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sanketrino said:
I'm using modaco r10 and correction to my earlier post, 1.3ghz on netarchy's kernel isn't much better than trinity. Ran Nfs shift for 5 seconds and it rebooted.
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Hmm, I used his 1.1v kernel on MoDaCo but never the new kernel so I can't speak to its stability.
Some phones are able to run up to 1.4-1.5 without issues whereas some aren't due to hardware limitations (different batch,build quality etc).
Most however, from what i read in the forums, are able to clock up to 1.3 with either kernels (CFS or BFS, versions types etc) without facing the issue of random rebootings.
Personally, i'm only able to clock up to 1.3. I'll get random reboots if i run smartbench with a 1.4. Quadrant is fine for me at 1.4 though. Was able to get ~3500-3600 scores but in terms of real life situations, i can't tell the difference between a 1.3 to 1.4.
Hey guys,
seems my thread is still alive I flashed the newest version of netarchy the other day, I can manage 1.2-1.3 quite happily atm - I have to manually use SetCPU after each boot though, if I set on boot it will loop
ah well.
Since SetCPU was updated today to support the tegra II chip, I thought I would just give you all a heads up. Hope to see some kernels compiled with overclocking slots soon.
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Since SetCPU was updated today to support the tegra II chip, I thought I would just give you all a heads up. Hope to see some kernels compiled with overclocking slots soon.
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Cant you overclock by hand without that?
There are a few other apps and methods to overclock. The newest version of setcpu is able to see the slots in clemsyn's kernel, but they don't exceed 1ghz.
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Looks like the xoom is already OCd to 1.5. Can't wait to see some kernels for us too
Wrong section.
At any rate, I'm sure once coolbho3000 puts his overclock code in github, the kernel devs around here may be able to get these puppies overclocked as well. The difference being that the Xoom as a .36 based kernel as where we are still running .32 based kernels, so there is just as much chance that it doesn't port.
When posting, think of the content and context. This thread is about an app. But this section is for Guides, Kernels, and ROMs to be released. I know this section is where most folks spend most or all of their timing reading/posting, but there are 4 sections for a reason, to keep content organized and relevant. Let's help the mods do that by posting in the appropriate section.
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Wrong section.
At any rate, I'm sure once coolbho3000 puts his overclock code in github, the kernel devs around here may be able to get these puppies overclocked as well. The difference being that the Xoom as a .36 based kernel as where we are still running .32 based kernels, so there is just as much chance that it doesn't port.
When posting, think of the content and context. This thread is about an app. But this section is for Guides, Kernels, and ROMs to be released. I know this section is where most folks spend most or all of their timing reading/posting, but there are 4 sections for a reason, to keep content organized and relevant. Let's help the mods do that by posting in the appropriate section.
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Am I missing something? Isn't this in the general section?
Why do there seem to be so many self imposed forum police these days? Seems like half the posts I see are people *****ing at the op
There is a big difference between 36 and 32. Honestly, I only assume this from looking at the latest 38 rc commits and comparing the two. But it seems to be significant, even in its comments and verbosity. What's missing is cpu-tegra.c or the cpufreq driver for tegra written by Colin Cross (android dev) - instead we have NVIDIA's cryptic cpufreq.c .. I can barely understand what's going on with most code.. but it seems like our kernel version is from a time where NVIDIA's code was still being sorted thru by the aforementioned Google dev.
I have setcpu installed however I cant change the governor
collindv said:
Am I missing something? Isn't this in the general section?
Why do there seem to be so many self imposed forum police these days? Seems like half the posts I see are people *****ing at the op
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Because we are supposed to self police ourselves otherwise the mods just close our forum.
grinch247 said:
I have setcpu installed however I cant change the governor
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Because your kernel isnt set up to be changed
thebadfrog said:
Because your kernel isnt set up to be changed
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however I can alter the speed up or down...and check off set on boot..
grinch247 said:
however I can alter the speed up or down...and check off set on boot..
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Yes and so can I. I can also set the governor with a script or manually. They kernel for the GTab has 2 settings....performance and powersave... and as far as I know setcpu doesnt support the .32 kernel that GTab has. It does support the .36 kernel that the xoom has.
collindv said:
Am I missing something? Isn't this in the general section?
Why do there seem to be so many self imposed forum police these days? Seems like half the posts I see are people *****ing at the op
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I (one of the two mods) moved this into the General section where it should be. It had been in the Development section which wasn't the right place.
And thebadfrog is correct - we (as a community) benefit when everyone helps everyone out - including making sure posts are created in the right spot, and aren't just another variation on a question that might have been asked 15,245,332 times before.
I apologise for posting in development. I wasn't even paying attention. Thank your for moving the thread for me.
Originally Posted by coolestmage
Since SetCPU was updated today to support the tegra II chip, I thought I would just give you all a heads up. Hope to see some kernels compiled with overclocking slots soon.
Cant you overclock by hand without that?
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You need a kernel that supports overclocking and the GTab doesnt have one yet
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Yes and so can I. I can also set the governor with a script or manually. They kernel for the GTab has 2 settings....performance and powersave... and as far as I know setcpu doesnt support the .32 kernel that GTab has. It does support the .36 kernel that the xoom has.
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wondering if the xoom setcpu profile would jive w/ our tablets?
The gtbalet's benchmark is around 2,500. The overclocked Xoom got 2850. Standard Xoom @ 1Ghz got 2,150.
Am I missing something???? If the gtablet could be OC'd that would be huge.
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wondering if the xoom setcpu profile would jive w/ our tablets?
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Kayak83 said:
The gtbalet's benchmark is around 2,500. The overclocked Xoom got 2850. Standard Xoom @ 1Ghz got 2,150.
Am I missing something???? If the gtablet could be OC'd that would be huge.
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The profiles won't until the AOSP frequency scaling is imported into the kernel sources - and that's not an easy process. Then the kernel will have to be compiled, etc.
Yes - it'd be nice to be OC'd - but battery life would be affected. It's a tradeoff in many ways....
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The profiles won't until the AOSP frequency scaling is imported into the kernel sources - and that's not an easy process. Then the kernel will have to be compiled, etc.
Yes - it'd be nice to be OC'd - but battery life would be affected. It's a tradeoff in many ways....
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On my OG Droid I like being able to drop the speed for battery savings when the screen is off if it's not in use. So there's more in it than just big numbers.
I want to flash the lordmod kernel with the -50 undervolt but whenever I don't use the stock kernel on miui my camera doesn't work or my wireless tethering goes out. Is there any way I could get this kernel and have both work? Also how much can you undervolt MIUI without it causing any problems?
Heres the link for lordmod kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1020637
Also what is the difference between BFQhs and VIO
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I don't know about MIUI, but on CM7 I just tried flashing it on a stable version and got those problem. Later found out that it was for the nightlies. Maybe there is a older version of lordmod that will work for you?
Why not go into the threads of the rom/kernel in question and see if perhaps this problem has already been encountered? It may be faster and provide solutions tailored to your needs.
I doubt you're the first person to have run into issues like this.
Scott_S said:
Why not go into the threads of the rom/kernel in question and see if perhaps this problem has already been encountered? It may be faster and provide solutions tailored to your needs.
I doubt you're the first person to have run into issues like this.
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Agreed. There's a recent thread here in the general forum,where someone explained that all phones handle things differently so even if someone tells you what they undervolted to on miui,it mite not work for you. Best bet is to play around with different settings to see what's gives you the best results
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The latest LordMod kernel... read the first two posts and the last five or so to get a feel for how it works for others.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085725
Camera works fine for me on the latest (1.6.10 v3) MIUI and overall its really quick.
I'm using it with SetCPU at 1.1 ghz/230 mhz.
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Yes, I FINALLY did it!!! I overclocked my G2X. I would appreciate if anyone could share their experiences with o.c. pros and cons... Should I retreat or stay where I am? Please some feed back!
Over 1300 seems to cause trouble on mine.
i dont think oc'ing is really that necessary with a phone this fast but if u must i wouldn't go above 1.3 (just seems unstable above that). I think the "Pros" come from being able to underclock. Setting up profiles for uc'ing when screen is off or as battery level drops etc really prolongs the life of the battery (at least in my case)
On my OG droid that came limited at 550 mhz, ya, oc'ing was def necessary but I cant really think of any "Pros" for oc'ing this phone.
each phone is different though so play around and you'll find a combination that works great for your phone, good luck
Well... you can get some serious bench scores... This thing rocks the Mandelbrot multithread test in smartbench 2011 at 1.5 ghz. Other than that it helps with games.
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wu_wei_lion said:
Well... you can get some serious bench scores... This thing rocks the Mandelbrot multithread test in smartbench 2011 at 1.5 ghz. Other than that it helps with games.
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What about the CPU not having enough cooling and frying the CPU over time. I presume its just like Desktop overclocking but without all the extra cooling you can add to make it safe for the hardware.
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What about the CPU not having enough cooling and frying the CPU over time. I presume its just like Desktop overclocking but without all the extra cooling you can add to make it safe for the hardware.
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But what i really want to know is if oc could damage the phone. After all if there is that danger it's noy worth it...
In all honesty I used to be really into benchmark scores and OCing the heck out of my phone and under volting it in the process but that led to many battery pulls ect. What I've noticed is just keep it at stock and mild uving seems to be the best for me its stable decently fast just 2 cents though
Overclocking a cpu is the same as on a pc, only a bit more dangerous on a phone. (This phone already has overheating problems running at stock speeds ) On a computer, people pay a premium for parts that are easily overclocked, and have either very good fans/heatsinks or a liquid cooling rig.
Overclocking is dangerous, especially because not all chips are going to be made equal, even if they come off the same production line. These chips are designed to run at a certain voltage, and certain clock speed. As far as real world use, (NOT benchmarks. Sure, they look pretty and all, but benchmarks are never very accurate.)
Sure, you might get 2-3 more fps on your games, but is that worth the risk of shortening the life of your chip/phone?
(And just so you know, I've been building/overclocking pc's for years, but I also understand what you need to do to keep it stable, and it's *all about cooling*.)
If you're not convinced, try this. Don't overclock your phone, and use it for a few days. Tell me honestly that you really notice a real-usable difference with the chip overclocked or not. (Games set aside, but like I said, getting a couple extra fps on a game to me isn't worth the risk without a proper cooling setup)
For those of you that really don't understand what you're doing to your chips when you overclock, I'd suggest doing some reading about it. A good place to start would be here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overclocking
So you think using fauxs kernel is not safe or reduces the life of the chip? I just flashed it and didnt oc or uv further then fauxs default settings...
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I'm not saying it's for sure, I'm saying there's a chance.
Plus keep in mind that these kernels have other really nice additions besides overclocking and undervolting. I'm using faux's stock voltage kernel ext4, and leaving it at stock settings, and it really works great.
I just posted this up because I see a lot of people more interested in quadrant scores (which to me are pretty useless) than stability of their phones. If you do overclock, and it works for you, more power to you. I just want to inform people. I'd HIGHLY suggest if you aren't sure, read that wiki article, it's a great place to start. (not all information is there, but it gives a very good general idea on how and what overclocking is.)
Thanks! i always like reading knowledgeable and informative posts!
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I'm not saying it's for sure, I'm saying there's a chance.
Plus keep in mind that these kernels have other really nice additions besides overclocking and undervolting. I'm using faux's stock voltage kernel ext4, and leaving it at stock settings, and it really works great.
I just posted this up because I see a lot of people more interested in quadrant scores (which to me are pretty useless) than stability of their phones. If you do overclock, and it works for you, more power to you. I just want to inform people. I'd HIGHLY suggest if you aren't sure, read that wiki article, it's a great place to start. (not all information is there, but it gives a very good general idea on how and what overclocking is.)
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OK, you definitely convinced me.... I have also faux (let me tell you exactly - Kernel Version 2.6.32.9 FR Faux 123-v0.03) on EagleBlood 1.05. Could you please tell me what I need to do set up in order to be safe? Thanks!
I'd just go to faux's thread in the development section (his froyo thread, not the cm7 one, since you're using eagleblood), and download his stock voltage kernel. (It's in the first post.) He's on .04 now, by the way.
Then reboot into recovery, and flash the file you downloaded. It'll overwrite your current kernel and modules with the new one, then reboot.
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I'd just go to faux's thread in the development section (his froyo thread, not the cm7 one, since you're using eagleblood), and download his stock voltage kernel. (It's in the first post.) He's on .04 now, by the way.
Then reboot into recovery, and flash the file you downloaded. It'll overwrite your current kernel and modules with the new one, then reboot.
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I could not find this thread under G2X Android Development Section... I found threads Kernel Trinity, Kernel CM7, Kernel LGE Stock Froyo, Kernel Morphine... Which one is it...? Please do have some patience, at least I learn fast!
krekabl said:
I could not find this thread under G2X Android Development Section... I found threads Kernel Trinity, Kernel CM7, Kernel LGE Stock Froyo, Kernel Morphine... Which one is it...? Please do have some patience, at least I learn fast!
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You passed right by it. LGE stock froyo. (That doesn't mean it's a stock froyo rom, it means it's *based* on one )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102720
Choose the stock voltage one. (ext3 or 4, depending on your preference.)
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You passed right by it. LGE stock froyo. (That doesn't mean it's a stock froyo rom, it means it's *based* on one )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102720
Choose the stock voltage one. (ext3 or 4, depending on your preference.)
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Thanks you've been very helpful. That's why I made this post I hope this can help other people as well as it's helped me! )
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I could not find this thread under G2X Android Development Section... I found threads Kernel Trinity, Kernel CM7, Kernel LGE Stock Froyo, Kernel Morphine... Which one is it...? Please do have some patience, at least I learn fast!
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And a lot of times the kernel will be credited to the developer. So if you see "faux's kernel" people are referring to kernels by faux123. Trinity kernels were developed by morfic. If you are having a hard time finding a specific one, look at the top left to see who started the thread and sometimes that will help find it. Does that make sense? I had to pull an overnight at work so I am a little loopy....
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I recently rooted my Mytouch 4G Slide (s-off) and have been trying out several roms, my favorite of which are: Blue6IX's Bulletproof rom, Virtuous Primadonna, and Virtuous Inquisition. I like all of these, since each have their benefits over the other. Bulletproof is more solid and maintains the ability to use all stock features, most importantly the camera. The Virtuous roms are both visually more exciting (Inquisition is an ICS style rom), BUT the camera crashes if you even try certain camera features or some random things fail like trying to send a photo via text. All those pros and cons aside, the main feature keeping me on Virtuous Inquisition is the overclock kernel. It overclocks up to 1.7Ghz, and that's damn cool if you ask me.
Since the Virtuous roms have so many issues, I want to be able to use a rom like Bulletproof and still be able to overclock it. I looked all over this forum for overclock info/kernels and found just 2 threads. One was an older one by Romanbb called Kanged (still available for download), the other was from Blue6IX including several variations of kernels (but none of the download links exist anymore).
Then I did some more research on the kernel used in the Inquisition rom. Everything I read pointed to a developer that, apparently, only has overclock kernels for the HTC Sensation (can't think of his name at the moment). This seemed a little strange that a kernel for a different phone would be compatible with mine.
So this is where I reached a dead end with even more questions than I started with:
Are overclock kernels specific to each device? In other words: if I found one for a Sensation or whatever, would I be able to use it with my MT4GS?
Since Romanbb's "Kanged" OC kernel seems to be the only one still available for the MT4GS, would it still be compatible with newer roms? And for that matter, does is have to be used with a particular version of Android, or Sense vs ICS?
You see, I don't know enough about overclock kernels (or even kernels, themselves) to know all the right questions to ask in this situation. All I know is that Bulletproof has the stability I want, while Inquisition has the speed I need. And before I go cutting & pasting bits and pieces of one rom into another, I'd like to know what I should be doing or if I'm even on the right path. So maybe someone can point me in the right direction and help me to understand compatibility of oc kernels & how they can/can't be implemented. Also, where the hell do I even find oc kernels for this model of phone?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me to understand all of this. And I apologize in advance for any headache my abundance of questions and lack-of-understanding may cause.
All of the ICS/JB roms that use the v3 kernel by TeamDS are overclocked to 1.7ghz as well. Oh and don't flash a Sensation kernel...you wont boot. Also I'm not sure but I think the latest bulletproof (v1.1) has overclock to 1.7
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All of the ICS/JB roms that use the v3 kernel by TeamDS are overclocked to 1.7ghz as well. Oh and don't flash a Sensation kernel...you wont boot. Also I'm not sure but I think the latest bulletproof (v1.1) has overclock to 1.7
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I'll check those out. I've noticed there's a common trend between all ICS roms for the MT4GS: they all have the same camera failures as well as plenty of other random issues, although some have more than others. So I'm hesitant about trying any ICS roms older than a couple months, since it seems that a truly stable ICS rom for this phone with minimal issues doesnt exist yet. But yes, I will check it out.
As for Bulletproof, if it does have overclock then something is wrong because I tried SetCPU (several others as well) and I wasn't able to set a max frequency higher than 1200-ish mhz (or 1100 something?). No matter what I tried the frequency stayed at stock settings. Thats why I'm trying to find out where to find a compatible oc kernel and how to install/flash it on top of a rom that didn't originally have an oc kernel.
With the Virtuous Inquisition rom that I'm currently on, it allows a max of 1728mhz which is great. Although for some reason whenever I set up a new profile within SetCPU or even change the Min/Max settings, the setting doesn't have an effect on the actual frequency longer than a couple seconds before reverting back to default. And I tried disabling Perflock but I get "Error: Misc Exception.. ". Which brings me back to my original thought about the kernel used in this rom; I found the name of the dev and kernel version used in this rom: "SebastianFM -Sensation 3.0.13 kernel". When I looked up that guy's kernels, they all seem to be exclusively for the Sensation, but his kernels are being used in this Inquisition rom that is compatible for the Sensation, Evo3D, and MT4GS. So the fact that this (apparently) is a Sensation kernel might explain why my settings in SetCPU have no effect and I'm unable to disable Perflock.
Still though, it would be nice to get the best of both worlds; stable rom, fast-as-hell kernel.
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Thanks. Didn't know that, I figured this was a development-related question so the "Development" section made sense, and I made sure I labeled it with a "( ? )" to avoid any confusion. My mistake, I suppose. And although I've been a long time reader of this forum, I didn't set up an account til last fall and hadn't actually started a thread til now. Now I know. Soo, is there a way to move this thread and I'm just not seeing it?
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@eon said:
Now I know. Soo, is there a way to move this thread and I'm just not seeing it?
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No, you are not allowed to move threads, even if you created them.
The post was reported, and the thread moved. For future reference, you can do this as well - but also for future reference, no questions should ever be in the Development section. Thanks!