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Describe Everyday use?

Benchmarks aside, cause I know people here put it through the ringer...
What is the everyday use of this thing like performance wise, such as surfing, moving between screens and apps, etc.

Works like a charm. Been using it every day for 2 weeks. Sometimes you get some short lags from the io problem, but for my use I seldom notice it.

A lot of reading. RSS, Pocket, Ebooks, XDA.
Watching some films while travelling or on Sunday morning in the bed.
Some writing.
I hardly ever play games on any of my mobile devices.
All the above works very well for me except Google Currents which lags like hell in landscape mode.

I am awaiting for mine. I have a Sony Tablet S to hold me over. I literally beat it up. I'm on it around the clock at work and home, into the wee hours of the night. Can't wait to battle test my Infinity the same way.
I've had the Sony for 2 months and logged almost 800 hours..

thephreak99 said:
Works like a charm. Been using it every day for 2 weeks. Sometimes you get some short lags from the io problem, but for my use I seldom notice it.
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I upgraded from the TF101 and so far, this blows it away (which is what I would expect). I haven't had any significant lag or freezes, everything seems to run very smoothly. Browsing is definately a significant improvement. I would get a number of lags browsing sites like Facebook from my TF101, this scrolls through it like butter.
My only complaint would be that some apps are not ready for primetime with the new 1920x1200 resolution. Some apps, like IMBD work just fine, but the font size is very small. Not a huge problem right now, but I suspect these apps will need to be adjusted over time. Thumb Keyboard also had very small fonts on the keyboard itself, but that was adjustable at least.
Some other apps are more problematic....for example, I fell in love with Go Launcher HD for Tablets on my TF101. Works fine on the TF700, however some of the widgets/icons overlapp the controls at the top of the screen. I couldn't find a combination of grids-size that would work for me, so I went back to the stock launch for now.
I suspect all these things will get worked by the app developers as these higher resolution displays take off....
-Chris

Guys, thanks so much, I appreciate it.
This is what I was looking for.
Every android tab has pro's and con's.
I am aware of the I/O issue, but as my coworker said to me this morning when discussing it "how many times will you be copying files to it or downloading?"
Although the tablet should work out of the box for the money, this still seems like it will be what I am looking for just to browse, listen to music, GPS, etc.
Thanks

lardo5150 said:
I am aware of the I/O issue, but as my coworker said to me this morning when discussing it "how many times will you be copying files to it or downloading?"
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That's my opinion too.
You pay a lot of money so you can expect ASUS to fix it and rumor has they are on it.
But although I'm not that of an ASUS fand I think the buzz is a bit too much overreacting.

lardo5150 said:
Guys, thanks so much, I appreciate it.
This is what I was looking for.
Every android tab has pro's and con's.
I am aware of the I/O issue, but as my coworker said to me this morning when discussing it "how many times will you be copying files to it or downloading?"
Although the tablet should work out of the box for the money, this still seems like it will be what I am looking for just to browse, listen to music, GPS, etc.
Thanks
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Without using one extensively, I'd have to say I agree with that line of thought. Every time I've seen a prime or TF300 display model, I've tried to force it into giving me an ANR in the browser. Every time I've been unsuccessful.
I'm looking for something I can browse the web with, handle email, and create/edit office documents. I admit I'm going to be harder on it than most since I'm setting up a debian chroot on it for libreoffice, but even then I have a hard time seeing the low IO benchmarking being a big issue.
There's a thread in the Prime section asking about how satisfied people are with their tablet, and while the posts themselves are very vocally negative, the poll results show an 80% complete satisfaction rate. I think that speaks for itself.

Jotokun said:
Without using one extensively, I'd have to say I agree with that line of thought. Every time I've seen a prime or TF300 display model, I've tried to force it into giving me an ANR in the browser. Every time I've been unsuccessful.
I'm looking for something I can browse the web with, handle email, and create/edit office documents. I admit I'm going to be harder on it than most since I'm setting up a debian chroot on it for libreoffice, but even then I have a hard time seeing the low IO benchmarking being a big issue.
There's a thread in the Prime section asking about how satisfied people are with their tablet, and while the posts themselves are very vocally negative, the poll results show an 80% complete satisfaction rate. I think that speaks for itself.
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The people enjoying the tablet are too busy actually using it and getting on with their lives instead of spending their life complaining about it on the forums. I'm sure for 90% of people, this tablet is fine in it's current state, and the other 10% will get an update to fix issues.

As I said in other posts, not only one or two but pretty much all the major sites list Transformer Infinity as the best Android Tablet. General consensus of losing a point on reviews seem to be the complain of android ecosystem not having dedicated tablet apps. So yeah I am sure the I/O issue is real and would certainly be nice to have it fixed. But if it is truly a problem for majority people for their daily use, you would think it won't be rated as the best tablet.
Having said that mine is waiting at home. So I'll know how it functions. I don't play games on it, but I do push the device to certain extreme for what I do such as opening massively large EPUB, PDF files. So let you all know my experience.

KilerG said:
The people enjoying the tablet are too busy actually using it and getting on with their lives instead of spending their life complaining about it on the forums. I'm sure for 90% of people, this tablet is fine in it's current state, and the other 10% will get an update to fix issues.
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I've had the same experience. When I've used the display models (as an attempt to check out the tf700), I see stuttering only on crazy long/big websites, but no ANRs from i/o.
My hope is this hardware will help with some of that. I get it tomorrow, can't wait!
- Chilly

HoushaSen said:
Having said that mine is waiting at home. So I'll know how it functions. I don't play games on it, but I do push the device to certain extreme for what I do such as opening massively large EPUB, PDF files. So let you all know my experience.
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Please report back, cause I will be doing the same with PDF's for Microsoft books.

HoushaSen said:
As I said in other posts, not only one or two but pretty much all the major sites list Transformer Infinity as the best Android Tablet. General consensus of losing a point on reviews seem to be the complain of android ecosystem not having dedicated tablet apps. So yeah I am sure the I/O issue is real and would certainly be nice to have it fixed. But if it is truly a problem for majority people for their daily use, you would think it won't be rated as the best tablet.
Having said that mine is waiting at home. So I'll know how it functions. I don't play games on it, but I do push the device to certain extreme for what I do such as opening massively large EPUB, PDF files. So let you all know my experience.
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I can already tell you that high res pdfs are rendering quite slow.
Epubs with a lot of text are no problem.
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Nebucatnetzer said:
I can already tell you that high res pdfs are rendering quite slow.
Epubs with a lot of text are no problem.
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What is causing the rendering? Is it cause of the high resolution and the T3?

Nebucatnetzer said:
I can already tell you that high res pdfs are rendering quite slow.
Epubs with a lot of text are no problem.
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I had the same problem with my TF300T but using adobe's official adobe reader app fixed it quite a bit (still a slight lag). Overall performance was about equal between my TF300T and Ipad 2 (goodreader) in terms of reading PDF's. I imagine, the TF700 might be a bit slower because of the higher res. Optimization should fix it though. 4 cores are meant for rendering.

I don't know what the problem is.
However it's not fast but still a lot better then on the TF101 which couldn't handle that PDF at all.
It feels like it's especially slow when there are many or one big picture on the page. The PDF ist 76 MB though so I don't know if it's fair to use it on a tablet.

I won't be able to test until later but I know different app are totally different. One that I found the fastest were mantano and ezPDF. As for ePub, iBook did good job except initial loading took a bit of time whereas mantano flew as long as I turned off TOC page assignment. So I am hoping this is now faster with quad core comparing to my old galaxy 10.1 dual core

I can't remember the name for the pdf app because I just bought it recently. It's IMO faster the ezPDF.
Edit: It's RepliGo PDF Reader.
For ePUB I'm using Aldiko which works pretty well especially together with Aldiko Sync.
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I'm using RepliGo for 150+MB pdfs with scanned pages every day and it's been doing really fine so far, especially compared to the competition (I'd say iAnnotate comes second). I'm opening these files both from internal storage and microSD. And I just love reading from Infinity's screen.

d14b0ll0s said:
I'm using RepliGo for 150+MB pdfs with scanned pages every day and it's been doing really fine so far, especially compared to the competition (I'd say iAnnotate comes second). I'm opening these files both from internal storage and microSD. And I just love reading from Infinity's screen.
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Does it load fast for you? I often experience a bit of a pause until everything is sharp. It prevents it a bit from being a fluid reading experience for me.
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Are We Expecting Too Much?

Am I the only who thinks some people are expecting too much? Maybe it is becuase my uses are so different than others?
I am not looking to control orbiting satelites with this device, nor am I wanting it to compose Adele's next number one smash. It is a tablet! Or, am I missing something. Have these devices come so far in such a short time that we want them to be full desktop or laptop replacements?
I want to: check the weather, see what the local movie times are and read some reviews, check email real quick and perhaps respond, watch a few clips of youtube on a really nice screen, have some entertainment portability when I travel, have a huge GPS in my car (that works), write reviews on Trip Advisor, read about the TomKat divorce, etc, etc. I wonder how many people who are highlighting the faults of this device actually have capable laptops at home!
I want a great screen and the latest device that might last me two, or maybe three years. I am not looking to take over the world with this device in 7 years.
Thoughts?
P.S. - I was joking about the TomKat thing.

Partly.
I'm basically on your side. I also think some people overreact on some issues like the I/O.
I watched the Prime release as I wanted that too but there was an overall bad tone from those who got it. The whole forum was basically just threads about problems or complaining, here it is two or three threads now.
With the Infinity you hear some say "oh no I/O, send it back, its crap" and others that say "it's almost smooth as butter".
But on the other hand it is marketed as a high class tablet and priced like that.
So I expect from ASUS to fix that issues. If they ignore it I will probably send it back after some time if the issue really bothers me that much.
But as I'm still waiting for mine to arrive I won't cancel it because of this now.
Okay maybe it is different in other countries that do not have warranty for 2 years, dunno.

You wouldn't have to have bought the 700 if you'd only wanted to watch the ocassional YouTube clip, LOL. As far as your usage scenario goes, yes, I believe you will have a great device that will last you several years, and possibly much longer than that.
I love the device too, but in my usage scenario (watching movie along with browsing the web for a bit, XDA among it), the I/O issue does rear its ugly head every once in a while. Granted, if actually watching the video, all is great; browsing the web, all is great; accessing the filesystem is less nice with slower responses than my SGS2, let alone when you try and transfer a large file.
And to answer your title question: no, I do not think we're expecting too much for a device of this cost (and theoretical capability). A quad-core 1GB RAM ICS tablet with 64 GB on-board memory should blow everything Android out of the water; so far, the experience hasn't been that bad at all, but I am absolutely convinced there is quite some room for improvement.
And now I think of it: all this time we are used as unpaid beta testers. I wonder why ASUS never stumbled upon the I/O issue itself; is that because they just connected seome hardware in an aluminum casing and brought it to retail, like some cynics said, or is this really so special and unforeseen that they didn't test large file transfers (for example) at all and just didn't test that particular aspect? I do have an opinion on that.

Surfing the web (visiting regular sites) and watching embedded video's in those site should work smooth. Especially with this high-end tablet.
Well, it does not go smooth. That's not a high expectation to me.
I compared it with an iPad1 and and iPad3, and even the iPad1 (>2 years old!) does the job faster and smoother ...

@Marty
Is it fair to say that if Asus expects to produce and sell 7,000,000 of these devices (I do not know what the real production number is), and 6,800,000 of those buyers do not care about I/O, multi-tasking, etc, that Asus WOULD NOT spend time, energy, and resources to make those 200,000 buyers happy?
I love these sites and forums, they are a great resource, but lets face it, people that use and post to these sites are a minority, not majority. And while I am sure producers of these tablet devices, be it Asus, Apple, Samsung, etc, do care somewhat about what is said, they have to produce what they can sell at the highest profit margin and then move onto the next device. Forget the Infinity, Asus probably its successor and its successors successor already in the works!

sag365 said:
if Asus expects to produce and sell 7,000,000 of these devices
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I don't think that this is a realistic number. You have to lower that a lot!

I don't think you're expecting too much.
Went into a local Currys and had a good look at a few tablets. The Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 actually looks quite nice and has an amazing screen, so does the Nexus 7 (but again, no 3G or SD card).
I hate to admit it but Apple own the tablet market.
I think I'm going to wait until we have an HD tablet with 3G before I buy one. These days I want to make sure I get the best bang for my buck.

i really do think its the best tab out. no tab comes out as the perfect model an ipad 3 is because there is only 1 of them, nothing to compare within apple. its such closed ecosystem that it runs smoothly because.... u cant do anything YOU want just what they want lol. with android its like PC, so many configuartions its hard to eliminate all bugs, but really good devs are gonna get their hands on this device and fix up a lot of things. also check out endgaget Asus released 4.1 jellybean news to hit the prime and the infinity within the next month

Is it fair to say that if Asus expects to produce and sell 7,000,000 of these devices (I do not know what the real production number is), and 6,800,000 of those buyers do not care about I/O, multi-tasking, etc, that Asus WOULD NOT spend time, energy, and resources to make those 200,000 buyers happy?
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To be honest. I don't think they pay to much mind to us early adapters. We definitely are the minority...

I received my TF700 yesterday and I was expecting a wow from the screen but my wife screwed it up cause I been using her ipad3 for the last week while waiting for the infinity. The screen is definitely nice and it does run smooth like it suppose to. I saw an IO issue when I was downloading all my apps and sorting them out in my home screens. It was sluggish and the screen turned white twice but I was downloading 22 apps with wifi on and re organizing the home screens which is a lot (at least to me). The wifi and bluetooth are [email protected] great. Distance for bluetooth seems to be much better. Jambox works flawless. The only things I didn't like was it seems the speaker has a lower top volume. Doesn't seem to be as loud as my prime was. I do get a click from the lens when I take pictures. You can hear it in video which is annoying.
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Crizthakidd said:
i really do think its the best tab out. no tab comes out as the perfect model an ipad 3 is because there is only 1 of them, nothing to compare within apple. its such closed ecosystem that it runs smoothly because.... u cant do anything YOU want just what they want lol. with android its like PC, so many configuartions its hard to eliminate all bugs, but really good devs are gonna get their hands on this device and fix up a lot of things. also check out endgaget Asus released 4.1 jellybean news to hit the prime and the infinity within the next month
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dknotty said:
I don't think you're expecting too much.
Went into a local Currys and had a good look at a few tablets. The Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 actually looks quite nice and has an amazing screen, so does the Nexus 7 (but again, no 3G or SD card).
I hate to admit it but Apple own the tablet market.
I think I'm going to wait until we have an HD tablet with 3G before I buy one. These days I want to make sure I get the best bang for my buck.
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If I didn't need it for summer months, I would definitely wait for the Snapdragon version.

sag365 said:
@Marty
Is it fair to say that if Asus expects to produce and sell 7,000,000 of these devices (I do not know what the real production number is), and 6,800,000 of those buyers do not care about I/O, multi-tasking, etc, that Asus WOULD NOT spend time, energy, and resources to make those 200,000 buyers happy?
I love these sites and forums, they are a great resource, but lets face it, people that use and post to these sites are a minority, not majority. And while I am sure producers of these tablet devices, be it Asus, Apple, Samsung, etc, do care somewhat about what is said, they have to produce what they can sell at the highest profit margin and then move onto the next device. Forget the Infinity, Asus probably its successor and its successors successor already in the works!
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If you'd read my posts in here, you'd have seen I have stated exactly to same a few times over, my friend. In 'normal usage' scenarios, owners won't find significant faults, and they accept a hang here or there -- if you work anywhere where you cannot decide on hardware yourself, you are faced with crap hardware all the time and build up mental antibodies to stutters, lags, hangs and what-not.
Having said that, a lot of people come in here for 'other-than-normal usage' scenarios, right ? And you rightly point out that we do not have any market influence except for the direct one (representatives, who probably are depressed and suicidal by now, LOL).

Eroc162 said:
I received my TF700 yesterday and I was expecting a wow from the screen but my wife screwed it up cause I been using her ipad3 for the last week while waiting for the infinity. The screen is definitely nice and it does run smooth like it suppose to. I saw an IO issue when I was downloading all my apps and sorting them out in my home screens. It was sluggish and the screen turned white twice but I was downloading 22 apps with wifi on and re organizing the home screens which is a lot (at least to me). The wifi and bluetooth are [email protected] great. Distance for bluetooth seems to be much better. Jambox works flawless. The only things I didn't like was it seems the speaker has a lower top volume. Doesn't seem to be as loud as my prime was. I do get a click from the lens when I take pictures. You can hear it in video which is annoying.
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So what you thoughts in comparison?
Would you exchange Infinity for iPad 3?
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MartyHulskemper said:
If you'd read my posts in here, you'd have seen I have stated exactly to same a few times over, my friend. In 'normal usage' scenarios, owners won't find significant faults, and they accept a hang here or there -- if you work anywhere where you cannot decide on hardware yourself, you are faced with crap hardware all the time and build up mental antibodies to stutters, lags, hangs and what-not.
Having said that, a lot of people come in here for 'other-than-normal usage' scenarios, right ? And you rightly point out that we do not have any market influence except for the direct one (representatives, who probably are depressed and suicidal by now, LOL).
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Lol I'm not having too many issues with doing 'other than normal usage' scenarios actually. I downloaded multiple HD texture packs for Mario Kart 64, Starfox 64 and Super Smash Bros with little to no lag, then unzipped, copied and pasted the very large (a couple hundred megabytes) packs into their correct folders without really slowing down at all. I was impressed considering my tablet locked up several times while installing and Titanium Backup restoring apps.
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I was just thinking about writing about the same topic. Sometimes I feel that people are expecting to get a full spec laptop.
Yeah the problems are there, but do they make me regret bying the TF700T? Not a bit.

Sometimes I wonder if ASUS even knows the cause of these various performance issues.
Take this scenario - you or I decide to design our own tablet: We get a bunch of investors, we go to a Chinese tech company, we sit down in a board room with their engineers - somewhere - maybe in the US - we show our blueprints of what we want the tablet to do - screen resolution - processor - ports - size - case material - all the usual stuff - any one of us here on XDA could do it - then, a representative meets with you and your investors again 3 months later with a prototype - you tell them what you like and what you don't - they disappear again for another month and return with a new prototype - you test it, it meets with your approval - you give them the go to produce 1000 of them.
We would have our own company, and produce a tablet - which we sell to the public - but we wouldn't have the slightest clue what makes it tick
And if a customer complains what do we do - we contact a chinese engineer explain the problem and maybe they solve the problem or maybe they make excuses for shoddy workmanship and move on to the next bigger contract - its not their problem to provide customer support, its yours - but you didn't make the thing so you don't have a clue how to solve the customer's problems
Again just hypothetical, but with everything being made by Chinese factories, are we even sure that ASUS knows the cause of our problems or the solutions?
Remember the day of having products made and supported in the US is over. Even the Japanese don't make and support their products anymore. Sony products are made in China!
On a side note - I do think they could have taken the time to tell the Chinese engineers to find a way to put the damn speakers on the front, or at least along the bottom and separated - after hearing the speakers on the a700 I'm having a really hard time rationalizing a premium tablet with a cheap monotone side mounted speaker..

Digital Man said:
Sometimes I wonder if ASUS even knows the cause of these various performance issues.
Take this scenario - you or I decide to design our own tablet: We get a bunch of investors, we go to a Chinese tech company, we sit down in a board room with their engineers - somewhere - maybe in the US - we show our blueprints of what we want the tablet to do - screen resolution - processor - ports - size - case material - all the usual stuff - any one of us here on XDA could do it - then, a representative meets with you and your investors again 3 months later with a prototype - you tell them what you like and what you don't - they disappear again for another month and return with a new prototype - you test it, it meets with your approval - you give them the go to produce 1000 of them.
We would have our own company, and produce a tablet - which we sell to the public - but we wouldn't have the slightest clue what makes it tick
And if a customer complains what do we do - we contact a chinese engineer explain the problem and maybe they solve the problem or maybe they make excuses for shoddy workmanship and move on to the next bigger contract - its not their problem to provide customer support, its yours - but you didn't make the thing so you don't have a clue how to solve the customer's problems
Again just hypothetical, but with everything being made by Chinese factories, are we even sure that ASUS knows the cause of our problems or the solutions?
Remember the day of having products made and supported in the US is over. Even the Japanese don't make and support their products anymore. Sony products are made in China!
On a side note - I do think they could have taken the time to tell the Chinese engineers to find a way to put the damn speakers on the front, or at least along the bottom and separated - after hearing the speakers on the a700 I'm having a really hard time rationalizing a premium tablet with a cheap monotone side mounted speaker..
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You could contract a US engineer to do the job for you. But you still need a brand image which requires time to get into customers' heads otherwise nobody will buy it from you. Well if you don't get the message across to them then who will? Remember, in a big company there's always a chain-of-command on the production side, it's difficult to get it right the first time and they tends to pick-up their mistakes overtime.
However you'll just needing to submit a customer feedback and then wait patiently because Asus has so many products that they're busy dealing with everyday. I'd understand it from a customer's point of view such that problems within the product itself and falling out of specification etc...
For example you see the quality not class A and constantly compares it with another product in similar system, would you rather be disappointed to see it not being a perfect product?
Think about it perhaps the tablet market has just taken off!!!

So far I am very pleased ... what exactly is an "io"? Wait till this gets an aokp jb port and a custom kernel...it will smoke anything coming out for a while
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You could contract a US engineer to do the job for you. But you still need a brand image which requires time to get into customers' heads otherwise nobody will buy it from you. Well if you don't get the message across to them then who will? Remember, in a big company there's always a chain-of-command on the production side, it's difficult to get it right the first time and they tends to pick-up their mistakes overtime.
However you'll just needing to submit a customer feedback and then wait patiently because Asus has so many products that they're busy dealing with everyday. I'd understand it from a customer's point of view such that problems within the product itself and falling out of specification etc...
For example you see the quality not class A and constantly compares it with another product in similar system, would you rather be disappointed to see it not being a perfect product?
Think about it perhaps the tablet market has just taken off!!!
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You could contact a US engineer to do it for you? You mean in a US factory? There are none. Thats the point.
China IS the only remaining company
ASUS = intermediary between US customer and China
They supply cash a brand name and a list of design requriments - China does all the rest
That disconect becomes a big problem when it comes to product support and problem solving - if you didn't really make it - you are not well prepared to support it

Asus' opinion on the I/O issue?

I think most people on this forum have come to love the Infinity for it's display and versatility, only to be disgruntled by lag and unresponsiveness of the UI, and freezing of applications.
Where the first impression was that the cause of this was an underpowered Tegra 3 (for the HD resolution) or RAM that was not speedy enough the cause now seems to narrow down on slow storage memory.
This becomes apparent with the data2sd modification for those that have dared to unlock the Infinity's bootloader thus voiding warranty and in the possession of a fast (class 10) microsd card to put the data partition on.
The above mentioned problems disappear and the Tegra 3 plus the RAM seem more than adequate for the task. So a relatively cheap component in the tablet (I bought a 64 GB class 10 / UHS-1 card for 55 euro's) is causing a significant deterioration in user experience.
To illustrate: When performing a I/O intensive operation such as downloading a torrent with a program such as aTorrent the tablet more or less freezes in normal operation. With data2sd you can happily continue to use it with only a minor impact on responsiveness.
Also heavy applications such as Linux under Android suddenly become much more usable.
So, this makes me wonder, is ASUS aware of this issue, and do people notice changes or less problems on the most recent versions of the tablet (referring to the serial numbers)? I think it's kind of sad that such a landmark device as the Infinity suffers from such a problem only related to a relatively cheap component in the tablet.

rikc said:
I think most people on this forum have come to love the Infinity for it's display and versatility, only to be disgruntled by lag and unresponsiveness of the UI, and freezing of applications.
Where the first impression was that the cause of this was an underpowered Tegra 3 (for the HD resolution) or RAM that was not speedy enough the cause now seems to narrow down on slow storage memory.
This becomes apparent with the data2sd modification for those that have dared to unlock the Infinity's bootloader thus voiding warranty and in the possession of a fast (class 10) microsd card to put the data partition on.
The above mentioned problems disappear and the Tegra 3 plus the RAM seem more than adequate for the task. So a relatively cheap component in the tablet (I bought a 64 GB class 10 / UHS-1 card for 55 euro's) is causing a significant deterioration in user experience.
To illustrate: When performing a I/O intensive operation such as downloading a torrent with a program such as aTorrent the tablet more or less freezes in normal operation. With data2sd you can happily continue to use it with only a minor impact on responsiveness.
Also heavy applications such as Linux under Android suddenly become much more usable.
So, this makes me wonder, is ASUS aware of this issue, and do people notice changes or less problems on the most recent versions of the tablet (referring to the serial numbers)? I think it's kind of sad that such a landmark device as the Infinity suffers from such a problem only related to a relatively cheap component in the tablet.
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I don't have a lagging, unresponsive Infinity. I'm still stock but rooted and have no complaints about this tablet. Also, I'd guess that ASUS' opinion would be that there is no I/O problem only users pushing the tablet beyond its reasonable limits.

BTrack said:
I don't have a lagging, unresponsive Infinity. I'm still stock but rooted and have no complaints about this tablet. Also, I'd guess that ASUS' opinion would be that there is no I/O problem only users pushing the tablet beyond its reasonable limits.
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Ok, interesting because you state in your signature that you have a C90 revision. I run a C70 version myself.

rikc said:
So, this makes me wonder, is ASUS aware of this issue.
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They moved to a different solution in the N7.
"Some manufacturers seem to do a better job of picking their storage solution, and the Kingston eMMC in the Nexus 7 is faster than the Hynix e-NAND ASUS has used in previous tablets. Neither is perfect however. There's a tangible impact on simple multitasking if you're downloading a lot of files or installing apps in the background. Even operations in memory are quite negatively affected by background IO. Take a look at how SunSpider performance is hurt by a background file download."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6073/the-google-nexus-7-review/6​

I once complained to ASUS about this issue and compared it to the experience on my Galaxy SII.
There response was:
Thank you for your email.
We will forward your feedback to our R&D, but we cannot garantee that we can fix speed 1 on 1. Both products are build up in a different way.
We will continuesly update the android system to keep performance on a good level.
We hope to have informed you enough.

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I once complained to ASUS about this issue and compared it to the experience on my Galaxy SII.
There response was:
Thank you for your email.
We will forward your feedback to our R&D, but we cannot garantee that we can fix speed 1 on 1. Both products are build up in a different way.
We will continuesly update the android system to keep performance on a good level.
We hope to have informed you enough.
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Yes, I also own a SGS2. It (albeit OC'd) felt so smooth compared to the stock Infinity. And I also ran Androbench on it. Although I don't have the results remembered I do know they were approximately 2-3 times higher than my Infinity. This is what makes the difference and make Samsung's SGS2 feel so smooth.

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Yes, I also own a SGS2. It (albeit OC'd) felt so smooth compared to the stock Infinity. And I also ran Androbench on it. Although I don't have the results remembered I do know they were approximately 2-3 times higher than my Infinity. This is what makes the difference and make Samsung's SGS2 feel so smooth.
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I do not believe in benchmarks, as often enough they do not even approximate user experience. A clear case for my argument is that, for example on CleanROM, the benchmark scores actually did not exactly skyrocket (they hardly improved to any degree of significance across the board), but the user experience is miles ahead of that of a stock ASUS TF700. I have seen the same happen on my SGS2, where in the past benchmark scores were artificially improved by disabling fsync without notification (That is risky and irresponsible decision making on part of a developer, but that's another matter. ) -- creating a situation in which a fair comparison can hardly be made.
Especially on multicore devices, the benchmark suites tend to falter...

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Tweaking SQLite and moving the data partition to a class 10 SD card kind of disprove your point because by bypassing or circumventing the NAND issue what's reflected in the IO benchmark scores between stock and tweaked pretty much reflect what people experience. And something like AndroBench is as basic a test as exists and its only function is measuring reads and writes to storage. Using it, my Teg3 device performs better than my Exynos device and the IO scores it reports jive with the IO differences reported by Quadrant. In non-IO tests I agree with you that some benchmarks don't leverage additional cores well but simple single-threaded IO tests shouldn't be impacted by the processor as the reads/writes are the lowest common denominator even on the fastest device. Compared to PCs, all Android devices have slow IO because of the NAND and eMMC storage solutions they use. The biggest difference between Android devices are those that have dedicated IO controllers. Exynos 4/5 and the S4 series all include a dedicated IO controller on the chip. HTC provides a dedicated IO controller on their Teg3 devices. That’s why the LTE TF700 below scores so high on the Quadrant memory and IO tests using Asus' NAND solution compared to the Wi-Fi TF700. So at least for IO what the benchmarks are reflecting represent actual performance.

To illustrate: When performing a I/O intensive operation such as downloading a torrent with a program such as aTorrent the tablet more or less freezes in normal operation. With data2sd you can happily continue to use it with only a minor impact on responsiveness.
-What exactly are you downloading from torrents on a tablet? You will get better performance doing that activity on a computer hooked up to ethernet. Granted these things are getting stronger, I don't think we should expect these devices to replace regular computers. They are more convenient for sure but they won't have the same processing power, expandability, or overall same user experience.
What are you expecting from your tablet? What is your purpose for buying it other than the cool factor of having a tablet? What you may want may not realistically be possible on any tablet currently. Go with Apple if you want something smoother. For what this device is intended for works. If the hang ups of the device are that annoying to you then sell it and get something else. You will only frustrate yourself by keeping it and festering over I/O.

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It's already been discussed (a lot) and part of what caused everyone here to come up with non-standard IO solutions. Either data2SD or browser2RAM allow the TF700 to function like other tablets because they bypass the stock NAND solution Asus uses. Android itself is capable of running multiple processes concurently.
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Oh I understand that Android is capable of doing much more and use browser2ram myself. Just not phrasing my question or thought right. I'm wondering what people are wanting to do with the tablet beyond it being a portable internet and multimedia device. Are they purposely doing so much with the tablet at once that it will lag? I'm constantly downloading 2-3 mp4 video files (range between 70-350mb each) while on a busy work wifi signal and browsed the web at the same time. Sure it runs a bit slower but it operates and I know it will be back to normal when the downloads finish. If I'm needing to download large files I'm going log into my pc with splashtop, set it download, and transfer it when I get home. It doesn't make sense to weigh down the tablet with large file downloads that can take hours to do. Especially when people know it can slow their tablet down and leave them feeling bummed with the device.
I don't mean to point the poster out and I apologize for that. On reading the post again I see they are using torrent download as example and asking about Asus response to I/O. I think it would be hard to think of Asus not knowing of the I/O problems and how disgruntled people are over it. There are many reviewers who have found the issue and probably countless owners who have brought it to their attention.
For people not willing to venture into modding their device then they may need to accept it will have this issue as is or find a different device. Cut your losses so you are not looking for lag and other problems instead of having fun with the device. Perhaps an Ultrabook will be better equipped to handle what they want. I enjoy the tablet so much more once I came to accept my unit has some light bleed. I festered over returning it for about 2 weeks. Then I stopped and thought of the vast improvement over my Prime this is. I could have ended up with a device having worse screen bleed or other issues. But key thing is I enjoy the tablet so much more once I got that hardware flaw out of my head. I don't actively look for the bleeding anymore.

@fsured,
Yes I used d/l-ing a torrent as an I/O heavy example. Or running Linux on Android because indeed because when doing those kind of things that most people don't do every day the issue really becomes really apparent... sort of like stress testing.
And... again my telephone is able to do that stuff instead of locking up like my stock C70 Infinity did... to put it into real world terms (I've read the comment about the limited use of benchmarks earlier in this thread).
And to answer your question/remark about how you (should) use your tablet? I leave my work laptop at work since I have it use it about 95% of the time with the keyboard dock and often with an external mouse. I do minor productivity stuff on it (some keeping track of expenses with the Officesuite HD spreadsheet app), a lot of internet browsing (first with browser2ram and now the freezes are also gone) with flash sideloaded. A lot of studying using repligo pdf reader, a lot of chatting with the Lilypad floating chat app while i'm web surfing or so, d/l-ing stuff, doing basic photo editing using photo mate professional and doing banking stuff with an app from my bank. Also I always use desktop sites (changed uastring).
So no, maybe I'm not a typical user, just like you and explore the boundaries of what people do with tablets like this. Yet that makes me see that the tablet with a dock is a very promissing form factor... and I'm not complaining about the Tegra 3's processing power especially no that the internal storage bottleneck has been circumvented.

My serial number is C60KAS082... does this mean I have C60 revision?
I bought this tab to replace my original galaxy 10.1. In some respects it's a great tablet and in others it completely sucks!!! I use my tabby for surfing, you tube, email, and internet fun. I read the Engadget review of the nexus 10 where they said that the tf700 tab was probably a better device. Based on that review I bought the tf700. I wish I would never had read that review! I had no idea that this tab had problems until I started using it. I have never seen a wait message in a browser, never. This tab does it all the time! If you're reading this, DON'T BUY A TF700!!!!!!!!!! I got mine at a good price from craigslist so I'm stuck with it. I like rooting, modding and the like, but not to recover basic functionality. Asus you suck!

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My serial number is C60KAS082... does this mean I have C60 revision?
I bought this tab to replace my original galaxy 10.1. In some respects it's a great tablet and in others it completely sucks!!! I use my tabby for surfing, you tube, email, and internet fun. I read the Engadget review of the nexus 10 where they said that the tf700 tab was probably a better device. Based on that review I bought the tf700. I wish I would never had read that review! I had no idea that this tab had problems until I started using it. I have never seen a wait message in a browser, never. This tab does it all the time! If you're reading this, DON'T BUY A TF700!!!!!!!!!! I got mine at a good price from craigslist so I'm stuck with it. I like rooting, modding and the like, but not to recover basic functionality. Asus you suck!
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This attitude is one I can never understand. Why punish yourself with lesser performance, just because the performance should have been better out of the box? You bought the tab used at a good price, so get with the program! Unlock (if not already) and start modding. You have some very good choices and I promise that you will be very happy with your results.

@Olagn... what okantomi says
The I/O is a major oversight... but the Infinity is otherwise great and can be made so with data2sd
And I created this topic wondering if Asus has an opinion (do they read posts here) and if newer revisions have faster storage memory to fix this

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@Olagn... what okantomi says
The I/O is a major oversight... but the Infinity is otherwise great and can be made so with data2sd
And I created this topic wondering if Asus has an opinion (do they read posts here) and if newer revisions have faster storage memory to fix this
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Newer versions do not fix this issue, infact Asus's Windows RT tablet also uses slow internal memory.

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Newer versions do not fix this issue, infact Asus's Windows RT tablet also uses slow internal memory.
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So you have the equivalent of freezes and FC's under Win RT...
ASUS is testing brand loyalty the hard way it seems.

I was able to use uTorrent to download pRon on my Infinity and still use other applications with lag on stock Android 4.1, no modifications.

I think ASUS should give us a official solution for his TF700 I/O Bottleneck, becouse this tablet really freezes a lot in stock-unlocked. Maybe an official unlock that doesn't void warranty. Or an official data to SD software.
So yes, I love the fact that we can unlock, root, flash etc with tf700 but, what about the warranty? I don't want to lose it before 2 years (my warranty), ASUS don't allow me to find a solution by myself becouse it means lose of warranty, and also the device doesnt work as expected. And I don't have a "hardware warranty", if I unlock I lose it.
My day by day with a TF700 is surfing web and play local file mp3 music with Google Music app in background... just loading a page like this forum can mean browse freeze. I tried Chorme, Dolphin, StockBrowser.. sometimes it freezes 10-20 seconds every page load an also it makes the music freeze too... I have the impression of a "not tested device" I bought it NEW for 590€ aprox. a month ago.
So thanks god, someone creates an illegal (for ASUS) software solution so we can wait 2 years of warranty end and then apply it.
Thanks ASUS.

I just can't understand how ASUS, with all their millions of $$$ R&D budget, ended up producing a tablet that, quite frankly, has some serious flaws out of the box...
...but then you get developers such as Scrosler, with CleanRom, & Clemsyn, with his kernal mods, who have totally transformed the Infinity into the device we all hoped it could be.
It baffles me - what sort of effort do ASUS actually put into their devices with their crappy build quality, and unoptimised software!?

General problems with TF700

Hello everyone. I'm trying to decide between buying a TF700 for this Black Friday, or wait a bit longer and get a Nexus 10 (it's not available in my country yet). I'd like to know if there are still technical issues with the TF700 or if they were fixed by ASUS either by software updates or by improving their manufacturing process. I've heard a lot about slow I/O on this tablet, is this still a problem ? Are there other thing I should be aware of when purchasing (like the screen lift on the Nexus 7) ? Thank you

There are several things you should be aware of including:
Screen lift
screen bleed
Slow IO
Slow stock software
low quality volume buttons(really low feels extremely cheap)
Dead pixels
Also the keyboard dock might cause some damages to the tablet itself depending on the usage.
Well i bought mine 3 weeks ago and i still have the slow IO and the screen lift/screen bleed and needed to change to custom rom to make it
usable..
i believe that alot of these issues will never be solved...
also asus has some of the worst support i have ever experienced so long story short dont buy unless you are happy with a slow
buggy and Defect high end device that might end up destroying itself for no reason
Trying to get the screen lift and screen bleed repaired while being unlocked seems impossible as asus rejects it. atleast thats what they are doing to me.

Slow I/O and slow stock software is all I have. I have no hardware-related problems, like the ones mentioned above. If I had, I would probably have traded it in before I unlocked it.

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not my Infinity
screen bleed
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not my Infinity
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that's true. But if you want to unlock your device, there is a workaround!
Slow stock software
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that's not true
low quality volume buttons(really low feels extremely cheap)
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not important for me!
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i don't have dead pixels
Also the keyboard dock might cause some damages to the tablet itself depending on the usage.
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i use the keyboard dock a lot and have no damage on my tablet
Well i bought mine 3 weeks ago and i still have the slow IO and the screen lift/screen bleed and needed to change to custom rom to make it
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IMO it's very usable with stock, but with CustomRom this Tablet is outstanding!!!
i believe that alot of these issues will never be solved...
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...but you don't know, except the I/O issue
also asus has some of the worst support i have ever experienced so long story short dont buy unless you are happy with a slow
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that is also not true, ASUS bringing updates very quick
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I'm extremely happy with my TF700!!!

The thing is this: Happy people are quiet people. They don't bother to go somewhere and leave a positive review. So what you'll find here is a handful of grumphy users, only a tiny segment of the thousands of buyers.
I'm very happy with my Infinity. No issues at all.
So a few games in the Playstore are listed as incompatible. How is this the device's fault?! (Yes, people are seriously whining about that.) That's like saying it's your cat's fault they don't sell Whiskas in the shop... Bloody ridiculous. The games work fine, anyway.
And yes, copying is a little slow. Ever tried to copy 3GB worth of images in Windows? Same bloody thing.
And the volume keys are perfectly solid. they don't wobbly, nothing. Respond immediately, too.
I use the keyboard literally all the time, as I also use it as a screen protection during travel. (and I write. A lot.) What damage? Stop spouting nonsense.
I had to Google screen bleed to know what the hell they meant. Nope, none to be found.
It's not slow. Stop trying to watch a film while you're gaming.
And I got mine a week before the release. so the first production line. (As the European Mainland also got it earlier than the US)

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The thing is this: Happy people are quiet people. They don't bother to go somewhere and leave a positive review. So what you'll find here is a handful of grumphy users, only a tiny segment of the thousands of buyers.
I'm very happy with my Infinity. No issues at all.
So a few games in the Playstore are listed as incompatible. How is this the device's fault?! (Yes, people are seriously whining about that.) That's like saying it's your cat's fault they don't sell Whiskas in the shop... Bloody ridiculous. The games work fine, anyway.
And yes, copying is a little slow. Ever tried to copy 3GB worth of images in Windows? Same bloody thing.
And the volume keys are perfectly solid. they don't wobbly, nothing. Respond immediately, too.
I use the keyboard literally all the time, as I also use it as a screen protection during travel. (and I write. A lot.) What damage? Stop spouting nonsense.
I had to Google screen bleed to know what the hell they meant. Nope, none to be found.
It's not slow. Stop trying to watch a film while you're gaming.
And I got mine a week before the release. so the first production line. (As the European Mainland also got it earlier than the US)
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I wholeheartedly agree. If you search this forum you'll find lots of complaints of issues both real and unrealistic. I think many of the users with lag issues are pushing the tablet way beyond reasonable expectations. They represent a tiny portion of Infinity owners, the rest of whom are quite satisified the the tablet's quality, including myself.

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Slow I/O and slow stock software is all I have. I have no hardware-related problems, like the ones mentioned above. If I had, I would probably have traded it in before I unlocked it.
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Well if i had known that the tablet would begin to have screen lift which would then escalade and cause screen bleed after the first 3 weeks of use.
i sure wouldnt have bought or unlocked it in the first place... it had nothing when i got it... i have done nothing to cause these problems..
i always carry my tablet in a sleeve and never even leaves it laying on a table without placing it on top of the sleeve...
also the volume rocker is getting looser and looser the more i use it which is getting on my nerves
and actually i do know that the hardware issues will never be fixed.. as they never did on the tf200....
and btw i see no usable workaround for the slow IO speeds as i need the micro sd card slot and have more than one card.. so i cant just be limited to a non removable sd card due to data2sd..

and actually i do know that the hardware issues will never be fixed..
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That seems like something ASUS would do (or rather won't do). I have gone through 2 Nexus 7, both C90 that had the exact same issues that plagued the first batches (C50 and such). I returned them both and decided to choose a higher tier price product. I wasn't expecting something in this price range to have so many issues. Hope the Nexus 10 turns out better.

Some more questions :
- the problem with slow I/O, is it wide-spread ? Are all TF700 affected or only some depending on factors like : memory size, manufacturing date etc.
- does ASUS use the same numbering system as in the case of Nexus 7 ? C90 for a device made in 2012 (C in hex is 12), on the 9-th month - september ?
- is the dock really worth it, can I buy it without it for a lower price ?

1: Yes, it is very widespread. It can be fixed with CustomROMs though.
2: No idea, tbh. I haven't looked into it.
3: I believe the dock is worth it, but you can buy the tablet without it. I use the dock a lot, and it's nice to have the extra battery power. Comes in handy.

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Some more questions :
- the problem with slow I/O, is it wide-spread ? Are all TF700 affected or only some depending on factors like : memory size, manufacturing date etc.
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It affects all units.
- does ASUS use the same numbering system as in the case of Nexus 7 ? C90 for a device made in 2012 (C in hex is 12), on the 9-th month - september ?
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Interesting... Quite possibly so. I have a C60 and I bought it in early August. Most now I see are C80's.
is the dock really worth it, can I buy it without it for a lower price ?
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Depends on what you use it for. It's got a USB port, SD slot and 4-7 hours of extra battery at intensive use. Plus it makes a great stand, and the keyboard is fully functional, it can be used to navigate, even. (it's 10'1"of OCD, so that helps keep the screen clean.) It also provides extra protection, as it closes like a laptop. (And charges whilst docked, even when asleep). I hate typing on a screen whilst holding said screen. it leaves marks, isn't comfortable and it gives me a sore neck. (I write entire novels. not 140 characters max.)
I don't know where you are, but some countries sell the tablet without dock, and some don't.

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The thing is this: Happy people are quiet people. They don't bother to go somewhere and leave a positive review. So what you'll find here is a handful of grumphy users, only a tiny segment of the thousands of buyers.
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This argument is entirely correct. Forums always have a negative bias.
So a few games in the Playstore are listed as incompatible. How is this the device's fault?! (Yes, people are seriously whining about that.) That's like saying it's your cat's fault they don't sell Whiskas in the shop... Bloody ridiculous. The games work fine, anyway.
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This ^^ and the fact that sideloading is so easy. You could even ask someone to install it temporarily and forward the apk or TiB files to you, and there are numerous sites that allow download of the apk files themselves anyway.
And the volume keys are perfectly solid. they don't wobbly, nothing. Respond immediately, too.
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I've never understood the argument of presumably floppy volume buttons. How many times in a day do you actually adjust volume? It's practically always on Vibrate mode for me (and when I watch a movie or documentary, I changed it with a swipe on-screen -- DICE Player ftw). One of the most irrelevant arguments against the 700 in my opinion.
I use the keyboard literally all the time, as I also use it as a screen protection during travel. (and I write. A lot.) What damage? Stop spouting nonsense.
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Same here -- only comes off when the kids play a game. I don;t have microscopically-enabled eyesight anymore (laser refraction surgery), but I cannot spot a single scratch either, no matter how tiny. Isn't that easy to accomplish on Corning's glass overall, unless you unleash unholy punishment on the screen. On any device, the odds are off, then... (I remember bragging about Gorilla Glass to some friends we were having over for dinner, and rubbing a metal spoon on the screen of my LG Optimux 2x. Very enthusiastically. It scratched. Clearly and obviously. )
I had to Google screen bleed to know what the hell they meant. Nope, none to be found.
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Most LCD screens suffer from some form of light bleed due to the backlighting, but I've never had it to any appreciable degree on my device either.
It's not slow. Stop trying to watch a film while you're gaming.
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Why did I not try this? Plants vs. Zombies with Stick It!-ed video. Wow. Good deal!
By the way: Plants vs. ZOmbies is a good example of a "not compatible" game. Sideload it, get the data folder from a shady site (hell, you may even pm me) and it runs. Initial loading and level endings are pretty slow, but in-game, runs nicely.
And I got mine a week before the release. so the first production line. (As the European Mainland also got it earlier than the US)
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Breda? or Zwolle? I took a motorcycle to Breda -- had it almost three weeks before the European release. My 700 has no issues at all. Not a creak, not a lift, not a scratch. Only I/O -- all units have this -- but a cROm fixed that.
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I wholeheartedly agree. If you search this forum you'll find lots of complaints of issues both real and unrealistic. I think many of the users with lag issues are pushing the tablet way beyond reasonable expectations.
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I noticied the I/O issue early, clearly and frequently. It was there on a low level as well, not only when pushing the device. As it stands, I would contest your statement.
They represent a tiny portion of Infinity owners, the rest of whom are quite satisified the the tablet's quality, including myself.
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With the exception of ASUS'poor choice regarding internal memory (see above), the other issues are relatively infrequent (and probably not that severe in most cases; note the use of the term "relatively"). I'm *very* happy with my CleanROMmed 700.
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Well if i had known that the tablet would begin to have screen lift which would then escalade and cause screen bleed after the first 3 weeks of use.i sure wouldnt have bought or unlocked it in the first place... it had nothing when i got it... i have done nothing to cause these problems...
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No, but you should've RMA'd the device. The cause is clearly on AUS'side, but you canot blame them for voiding your warranty before you actually made sure your device was OK. that's your responsibility as a buyer/unlocker. How do you know your actions (whatever they may have been) didn't cause or exacerbate the issues your device now seems to have? (I am not saying they did -- I do not know either.)
i always carry my tablet in a sleeve and never even leaves it laying on a table without placing it on top of the sleeve...
also the volume rocker is getting looser and looser the more i use it which is getting on my nerves
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Mine is in a leather sleeve, but takes quite a beating for that scenario. No issues whatsoever.
and actually i do know that the hardware issues will never be fixed.. as they never did on the tf200....
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No, should they magically replace parts in our devices long-distance? That would rock! Hell, if they just send that engineer, I'll make him a cup of tea -- he can even sleep in the guestroom!
and btw i see no usable workaround for the slow IO speeds as i need the micro sd card slot and have more than one card.. so i cant just be limited to a non removable sd card due to data2sd..
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I/O is OK on CleanROM, and I do not have data2sd enabled.
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Some more questions :
- the problem with slow I/O, is it wide-spread ? Are all TF700 affected or only some depending on factors like : memory size, manufacturing date etc.
- does ASUS use the same numbering system as in the case of Nexus 7 ? C90 for a device made in 2012 (C in hex is 12), on the 9-th month - september ?
- is the dock really worth it, can I buy it without it for a lower price ?
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1. All units are affected, and gicen ASUS'track record with the TF201, all units released to market in the future will be affected.
2. Nobody knows except ASUS. Might be worth taking to Gary Key. I have an early unit without any issues, and so have lots of others in here. I do not believe the serial number is an accurate preictor of sorts for any issues that particular device may or may not have.
3. Obviously, the device is available without the dock, but I love it. I would not even consider buying it without the dock. Prime selling point for me.[/QUOTE]

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Breda? or Zwolle? I took a motorcycle to Breda -- had it almost three weeks before the European release. My 700 has no issues at all. Not a creak, not a lift, not a scratch. Only I/O -- all units have this -- but a cROm fixed that.
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Zwolle. (Bit closer ) Took them half an hour to find the thing in storage xD The idiot came back with an iPad at first. I think he's still a bit scared of me, saw him here recently at Media Markt, he ran away! xD

I'm really disappointed. Such a powerful CPU/GPU combo, such a good display (at least resolution-wise, there aren't many other Android tablets that can compete with the retina iPads from this point of view) and ASUS had to ruin it all by making these small mistakes (well, the I/O thing is not so small) and, even worse, not invest anything into fixing them. I think I'll wait for the Nexus 10 and hope that Samsung took its time designing it and ironing out all the bugs.

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Zwolle. (Bit closer ) Took them half an hour to find the thing in storage xD The idiot came back with an iPad at first. I think he's still a bit scared of me, saw him here recently at Media Markt, he ran away! xD
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Are you such a scary lady? Mmmmh.... Hahaha! Mine was dumped in a framework container with some TF201 Primes -- unlabeled, no pricing, no advertising. The girl I asked first didn't know what I was talking about and went to some guy to ask, and he turned out to be the one who dumped them there just 15 minutes earlier. Hadn't even had the time to look up for which price they were leaving the store.

I'm sure you'll be happy to hear the Nexus 10 has ANR errors in the browser, too, then. ...Not happy with it? Oh well.
And there's plenty of Google Issue Reports regarding random freeze and reboots for the Nexus 10. This one, for instance: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39879 Or even here on XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998496
Or maybe we should mention the WiFi issues? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995833
Or maybe the Lightbleed?
How about the lousy battery life?
It doesn't have a MicroSD slot. For me, this is enough reason not to consider the N10.
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Are you such a scary lady? Mmmmh.... Hahaha! Mine was dumped in a framework container with some TF201 Primes -- unlabeled, no pricing, no advertising. The girl I asked first didn't know what I was talking about and went to some guy to ask, and he turned out to be the one who dumped them there just 15 minutes earlier. Hadn't even had the time to look up for which price they were leaving the store.
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I'm generally considered rather frightening, yes.
Over here in the Media Markt they often enough don't even know it's called a Tablet, and not an iPad. They just assume iPad is the name for all tablets. And if you want a non-Apple product, they're somewhere in the far back corner behind all the junk.

The problems that seem to be hardware-related (an therefore not fixable through a software update) are the light bleed, the crappy battery life (which is not all that bad but, still, doesn't even come close to the iPad) and, maybe, the WiFi connectivity issue. I have to admit, those don't look too good. And I bet that, as time passes, more will be found. I always wondered why so many people go the iPad route instead of choosing an Android tablet. It's the apps, sure, but also the feeling of a higher quality product. So, in the end, what's the best high-res Android tablet ?

Jumping Ship...What do you suggest?

So, TF300T friends, I have decided to trade in my tf300t for a different device. I have my own reasons for coming to this decision, but I will not bash this great device. It has served me well for the time being, but now, with all the upgrades to Android, it is getting bogged down. I find myself waiting for its processor to finish working so my unresponsive screen begins to respond again.
Anyway, not going to rant. I intend to go for the new nexus 7. I have realized that my tablet cannot serve as a replacement for my laptop. Yes, I know that it is not intended to be a replacement, but now I truly understand the limitations of an Android device, keyboard or not. I still prefer to use my tablet for movies, reading my ebooks for school (laptop is too heavy), and entertainment.
Forgot to mention that my lag problems have multiplied tenfold after wiping misc to recover from brick a few months back.
Any thoughts?
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aarsyl said:
So, TF300T friends, I have decided to trade in my tf300t for a different device. I have my own reasons for coming to this decision, but I will not bash this great device. It has served me well for the time being, but now, with all the upgrades to Android, it is getting bogged down. I find myself waiting for its processor to finish working so my unresponsive screen begins to respond again.
Anyway, not going to rant. I intend to go for the new nexus 7. I have realized that my tablet cannot serve as a replacement for my laptop. Yes, I know that it is not intended to be a replacement, but now I truly understand the limitations of an Android device, keyboard or not. I still prefer to use my tablet for movies, reading my ebooks for school (laptop is too heavy), and entertainment.
Forgot to mention that my lag problems have multiplied tenfold after wiping misc to recover from brick a few months back.
Any thoughts?
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The best part about Nexus devices is that you're pretty much guaranteed the latest and greatest android updates straight from the Google mothership. Thats one of the positives of moving to a nexus device. Furthermore, I believe there's great developer support in XDA for nexus devices since they are quite popular, so it will be easy to get great roms, help etc..
Personally, I would stick with my TF300T since it has a larger screen, keyboard dock and a great battery life (for me). I think that android as an OS, especially since its a mobile one, isn't that good for productivity. Yes, there are some great apps out there, but they will never beat the powerful capabilities of a proper Windows/Mac (Choose your side) computer running the Microsoft Office Suit.
I use my table for leisure, not for doing calculus through the wolfram alpha app, or writing a 1000 word essay; that's what my laptop is for. At least with a Nexus device, it could be used for these things if the android operating system improved dramatically from an update from Google, but thats probably not going to happen in the near future.
It all really depends on what you think you will gain and/or loose if you change devices. My best argument for the Nexus 7 is that it will get the latest version of Android pretty much as soon as it is released, as well as the large developer support from XDA since is quite popular. While the TF300T's biggest advantage is the keyboard dock, it makes typing a lot easier to type, and hence, better for productivity.
In the end, it depends on what you use the tablet for and what you want out of it that decides what tablet you should be using.
BTW, shouldn't this thread be in the general section?

1337 H4X0R said:
The best part about Nexus devices is that you're pretty much guaranteed the latest and greatest android updates straight from the Google mothership. Thats one of the positives of moving to a nexus device. Furthermore, I believe there's great developer support in XDA for nexus devices since they are quite popular, so it will be easy to get great roms, help etc..
Personally, I would stick with my TF300T since it has a larger screen, keyboard dock and a great battery life (for me). I think that android as an OS, especially since its a mobile one, isn't that good for productivity. Yes, there are some great apps out there, but they will never beat the powerful capabilities of a proper Windows/Mac (Choose your side) computer running the Microsoft Office Suit.
I use my table for leisure, not for doing calculus through the wolfram alpha app, or writing a 1000 word essay; that's what my laptop is for. At least with a Nexus device, it could be used for these things if the android operating system improved dramatically from an update from Google, but thats probably not going to happen in the near future.
It all really depends on what you think you will gain and/or loose if you change devices. My best argument for the Nexus 7 is that it will get the latest version of Android pretty much as soon as it is released, as well as the large developer support from XDA since is quite popular. While the TF300T's biggest advantage is the keyboard dock, it makes typing a lot easier to type, and hence, better for productivity.
In the end, it depends on what you use the tablet for and what you want out of it that decides what tablet you should be using.
BTW, shouldn't this thread be in the general section?
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Well, technically....I did ask a question.
On another note...thank you for your reply. My biggest attraction to the new N7 is the processor and the price. *I* personally don't need a 10" screen. I do like the bigger screen, but it certainly cuts down my mobility a little. Even swiping with Swiftkey is a bit more cumbersome in portrait mode. I used my tab as a standalone for about 8 months before I purchased a keyboard attachment, so I have experienced the both of both worlds quite extensively. Now, I only remove my tab for games (which I do a lot less) and for reading longer documents & PDFs.
I feel that the Tegra 3 is the TF300T's biggest flaw. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's why I don't want to save money to get the OG N7.
But what do you know (from experience or friends experience) about different smaller tablets? I've done my research, but opinions on XDA are much more current.

aarsyl said:
Well, technically....I did ask a question.
On another note...thank you for your reply. My biggest attraction to the new N7 is the processor and the price. *I* personally don't need a 10" screen. I do like the bigger screen, but it certainly cuts down my mobility a little. Even swiping with Swiftkey is a bit more cumbersome in portrait mode. I used my tab as a standalone for about 8 months before I purchased a keyboard attachment, so I have experienced the both of both worlds quite extensively. Now, I only remove my tab for games (which I do a lot less) and for reading longer documents & PDFs.
I feel that the Tegra 3 is the TF300T's biggest flaw. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's why I don't want to save money to get the OG N7.
But what do you know (from experience or friends experience) about different smaller tablets? I've done my research, but opinions on XDA are much more current.
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I think the biggest flaw that the Nexus 7 (N7) has, which the TF300T pwns with, is storage, followed by the camera. And you could match the cpu clock speed...
1. The N7 not having expandable is a major downfall - just like iDevices. 32 GB isn't enough for me. Combine that with my parents who have accounts on it and it quickly adds up. Right now I'm jamming 1x 32 GB micro-sd card and 1x 32 GB sd-card, so a total of 64 GB on top of the 32 GB built in (96 GB in total). If I had the money to spend on expensive SD cards, I would be possiable to have a 256 GB SD card and 64 GB micro-SD card in there, adding up to 320GB on top of the built in storage. If *I* had the N7, it would not suit me I need a large amount of storage, but you're needs (and wants) may be different.
2. I'm pretty sure you can overclock the Tegra 3 to 1.5GHz, so it will match the N7's clock speed. Use at your own risk.
Will add my experience with tablets once I've thought about it for a while. One question, how is the Tegra 3 the TF300T major flaw?

The Input/Output speeds of the Tegra 3 are terrible. To my knowledge, that's the cause of the abysmal lag while installing apps. I absolutely cannot afford to have Google Play to update apps automatically because of the way it slows down the tablet. If you read about the OG N7, you will see that the issues are similar (but not as bad, for some reason).
Once again, my tablet was bricked and restored, and my issues have gotten ten times worse. Maybe I should have replaced the motherboard, but I didn't have the money to dish out at the time. Maybe my tab was faulty. Who knows....
All I know is that my OG Evo 4g (1Ghz Single core Snapdragon) was more usable while installing apps than the TF300. I'm not trying to imply that my old phone was faster, but if the tab is writing files, or processes working hard in the background, the lag is beyond noticeable...it is intolerable.

aarsyl said:
The Input/Output speeds of the Tegra 3 are terrible. To my knowledge, that's the cause of the abysmal lag while installing apps. I absolutely cannot afford to have Google Play to update apps automatically because of the way it slows down the tablet. If you read about the OG N7, you will see that the issues are similar (but not as bad, for some reason).
Once again, my tablet was bricked and restored, and my issues have gotten ten times worse. Maybe I should have replaced the motherboard, but I didn't have the money to dish out at the time. Maybe my tab was faulty. Who knows....
All I know is that my OG Evo 4g (1Ghz Single core Snapdragon) was more usable while installing apps than the TF300. I'm not trying to imply that my old phone was faster, but if the tab is writing files, or processes working hard in the background, the lag is beyond noticeable...it is intolerable.
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In the meantime as I read up on what you replied with (BTW, very interesting)...
My friend(‘s family) has a generic 7” android tablet, as well as an iPad Mini, and a iPad, and a Win 8 Tablet and a laptop and this and that etc.. You get the point – he/his family is LOADED.
Anyway, we were once discussing about using tablets, (This is when I used my tablet at school for a while before I got a new laptop to handle the power tasks and improve productivity – I’m going off topic) and I remember him saying something like the iPad Mini (what a rip off – wait what?! ) was better for playing games that involve movement (temple run) and portability since it’s easier to hold and smaller (obviously), but the proper iPad was better for everything else, e.g. Reading, watching a movie, browsing the web since it was bigger.
I do see where he is coming from. It is clear that bigger screens provide a better median of entertainment as it is easier on the eyes, and when having more than one person watching something, makes the viewing experience a lot better.
Though the downside to this is that less portable. It’s like comparing the Galaxy Mega to the original S mini. Many people don’t have hands big enough to hold with one hand, or pockets big enough or store the Mega, making it harder to hold and less portable, it contrast, the mini, is extremely portable, and it is easy to hold with one hand. It’s a good analogy.
Though, I have to stress this point, the answer to your question is dependent on what you want from a tablet, not what other people (like me) want.
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The Input/Output speeds of the Tegra 3 are terrible. To my knowledge, that's the cause of the abysmal lag while installing apps. I absolutely cannot afford to have Google Play to update apps automatically because of the way it slows down the tablet. If you read about the OG N7, you will see that the issues are similar (but not as bad, for some reason).
Once again, my tablet was bricked and restored, and my issues have gotten ten times worse. Maybe I should have replaced the motherboard, but I didn't have the money to dish out at the time. Maybe my tab was faulty. Who knows....
All I know is that my OG Evo 4g (1Ghz Single core Snapdragon) was more usable while installing apps than the TF300. I'm not trying to imply that my old phone was faster, but if the tab is writing files, or processes working hard in the background, the lag is beyond noticeable...it is intolerable.
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****After doing some reading and testing****
Hmmm, that's weird, my tablet runs just fine and its on full stock everything. Just updated like 20 apps whilst playing temple run, beachbuggy blitz etc.. The game ran as smooth as always. (FYI, I once had to manually update Android via fastboot after the OTA update to .27.1 failed every time, That's when I lost my root access )
If the tablet annoys you that much, then go ahead and get the N7 if you think it will be less annoying. You have my approval. :good:
Just realized that I forgot to point out in one of the previous post that the TF300T has a better camera than the N7, so that'll be useful to know if your into the taking photos with tablet movement.
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Just had to point out the irony.
ASUS TF300T - It's back from the brink of death....
Rerooted, Custom ROM, and Faster than EVER!!!
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And yet its laggy whilst installing apps? :laugh: This made me laugh. Sorry for my immaturity.:angel:

1337 H4X0R said:
In the meantime as I read up on what you replied with (BTW, very interesting)...
My friend(‘s family) has a generic 7” android tablet, as well as an iPad Mini, and a iPad, and a Win 8 Tablet and a laptop and this and that etc.. You get the point – he/his family is LOADED.
Anyway, we were once discussing about using tablets, (This is when I used my tablet at school for a while before I got a new laptop to handle the power tasks and improve productivity – I’m going off topic) and I remember him saying something like the iPad Mini (what a rip off – wait what?! ) was better for playing games that involve movement (temple run) and portability since it’s easier to hold and smaller (obviously), but the proper iPad was better for everything else, e.g. Reading, watching a movie, browsing the web since it was bigger.
I do see where he is coming from. It is clear that bigger screens provide a better median of entertainment as it is easier on the eyes, and when having more than one person watching something, makes the viewing experience a lot better.
Though the downside to this is that less portable. It’s like comparing the Galaxy Mega to the original S mini. Many people don’t have hands big enough to hold with one hand, or pockets big enough or store the Mega, making it harder to hold and less portable, it contrast, the mini, is extremely portable, and it is easy to hold with one hand. It’s a good analogy.
Though, I have to stress this point, the answer to your question is dependent on what you want from a tablet, not what other people (like me) want.
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****After doing some reading and testing****
Hmmm, that's weird, my tablet runs just fine and its on full stock everything. Just updated like 20 apps whilst playing temple run, beachbuggy blitz etc.. The game ran as smooth as always. (FYI, I once had to manually update Android via fastboot after the OTA update to .27.1 failed every time, That's when I lost my root access )
If the tablet annoys you that much, then go ahead and get the N7 if you think it will be less annoying. You have my approval. :good:
Just realized that I forgot to point out in one of the previous post that the TF300T has a better camera than the N7, so that'll be useful to know if your into the taking photos with tablet movement.
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Just had to point out the irony.
And yet its laggy whilst installing apps? :laugh: This made me laugh. Sorry for my immaturity.:angel:
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Have I tried a custom rom? Have you seen my signature in the first post? Lol....just poking fun at you at this point.
I certainly have not been able to run a game while installing/updating apps. It is becoming quite clear that my tab was faulty from the start. However, I still want to get the new N7 (N7.2, I guess) for my own purposes. Yes, the camera is better, and it did influence my initial purchase of the TF300. But over the past 17 months, I haven't taken more than 50 pictures with my tab, if that much at all. The lack of flash greatly depreciates the value of the camera. I'm not one to use my tab to take pictures outside, either, since my phone has a much better camera to begin with.
I just wanted the peace of knowing that I'm making a good choice for myself. I have never filled up my 32gb of internal memory, so I don't truly need expandable storage. The only thing that I'll miss about expandable storage is the times when I need a few files from another device, and I can easily pop in my sd card from my phone.
Which reminds me, do you have issues with sending files to the TF300? On many roms, I can only send a few files for a day or two after the initial flash, but it blocks any files after that. I have researched this, and many many people have the same problem. Do you? It sounds like you got a good device out of the bunch...
I see that you updated your post. Yes, it's faster than before, but that doesn't mean that it's not very laggy. Besides, I was feeling like 100 bucks when I made that signature...time to change, I guess.

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Have I tried a custom rom? Have you seen my signature in the first post? Lol....just poking fun at you at this point.
I certainly have not been able to run a game while installing/updating apps. It is becoming quite clear that my tab was faulty from the start. However, I still want to get the new N7 (N7.2, I guess) for my own purposes. Yes, the camera is better, and it did influence my initial purchase of the TF300. But over the past 17 months, I haven't taken more than 50 pictures with my tab, if that much at all. The lack of flash greatly depreciates the value of the camera. I'm not one to use my tab to take pictures outside, either, since my phone has a much better camera to begin with.
I just wanted the peace of knowing that I'm making a good choice for myself. I have never filled up my 32gb of internal memory, so I don't truly need expandable storage. The only thing that I'll miss about expandable storage is the times when I need a few files from another device, and I can easily pop in my sd card from my phone.
Which reminds me, do you have issues with sending files to the TF300? On many roms, I can only send a few files for a day or two after the initial flash, but it blocks any files after that. I have researched this, and many many people have the same problem. Do you? It sounds like you got a good device out of the bunch...
I see that you updated your post. Yes, it's faster than before, but that doesn't mean that it's not very laggy. Besides, I was feeling like 100 bucks when I made that signature...time to change, I guess.
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The TF700T was actually the tablet I wanted since it had a faster processor and flash, but when I saw the $1200 NZD price tag it put me off. I bought the TF300T for $700 NZD instead. The draw backs of the tablet was worth the $500 saving. (1 NZ Dollars = 0.83 US Dollars, source: Google)
When you mean sending files to the tablet, do you mean via "adb push filename.extension", or copying and pasting using windows or both?
In the meantime, I'll start testing. I'll post the transfer time when it's done.
BTW, the reason this post is late is because today is the next day in my country. I got to have my sleep, you know.
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Sending a 622 MB file via adb. Using my USB 3.0 port. Device screen off. Dock connected.
Results: 1271 KB/s (637313024 bytes in 489.424s)

1337 H4X0R said:
The TF700T was actually the tablet I wanted since it had a faster processor and flash, but when I saw the $1200 NZD price tag it put me off. I bought the TF300T for $700 NZD instead. The draw backs of the tablet was worth the $500 saving. (1 NZ Dollars = 0.83 US Dollars, source: Google)
When you mean sending files to the tablet, do you mean via "adb push filename.extension", or copying and pasting using windows or both?
In the meantime, I'll start testing. I'll post the transfer time when it's done.
BTW, the reason this post is late is because today is the next day in my country. I got to have my sleep, you know.
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Sending a 622 MB file via adb. Using my USB 3.0 port. Device screen off. Dock connected.
Results: 1271 KB/s (637313024 bytes in 489.424s)
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I surely appreciate you apologizing for the late response. Shows character. (I'm a man of respect.)
Anyway, I'm back from vacation, and I am now responding to yours. I was referring to sendong files via Bluetooth. I even tried sending a file from my tf300 to my brother's tf300 through Bluetooth, and it failed as well.
When I asked him about the lag, he doesn't experience any of it. So I have determined that my tab was slightly faulty when I bought it, but I thought it was normal. At this point, the problem has progressed past my tolerance level. Thanks for your input, and for testing.
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I surely appreciate you apologizing for the late response. Shows character. (I'm a man of respect.)
Anyway, I'm back from vacation, and I am now responding to yours. I was referring to sending files via Bluetooth. I even tried sending a file from my tf300 to my brother's tf300 through Bluetooth, and it failed as well.
When I asked him about the lag, he doesn't experience any of it. So I have determined that my tab was slightly faulty when I bought it, but I thought it was normal. At this point, the problem has progressed past my tolerance level. Thanks for your input, and for testing.
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Okay. Thanks for the clarification :good:. I will try transferring a file via bluetooth sometime today (most likely in the evening, since that is when I usually do this kind of stuff), after I finish moving the majority of the boxes around here to my new house. That way I'll have enough time to set everything up and make sure I don't get anything wrong, as well as not worrying about the boxes. (The furnitures going tomorrow. I don't usually use blutooth that much, so this will be interesting.
Again, sorry for the late reply. It's really because of the different time zone's we're in.
Just advising you that you may any replies from me tomorrow (possibly 2+ days if I don't get reconnected to the fibre network) since I am moving house, as mentioned before.

Hi aarsyl,
I run my TF300T fully stock. I agree with you, sometimes it feels laggy, but hey, it's a budget tablet with high-end specs (well, mostly). Anyway, like you, I intend to grab a 32gb N7.2 sometime during the rest of the year, hoping to catch the release of the LTE (mobile) version, but not out of disappointment on my TF300T, just because is way more practical to carry and use while in the streets. :good:

1337 H4X0R said:
Okay. Thanks for the clarification :good:. I will try transferring a file via bluetooth sometime today (most likely in the evening, since that is when I usually do this kind of stuff), after I finish moving the majority of the boxes around here to my new house. That way I'll have enough time to set everything up and make sure I don't get anything wrong, as well as not worrying about the boxes. (The furnitures going tomorrow. I don't usually use blutooth that much, so this will be interesting.
Again, sorry for the late reply. It's really because of the different time zone's we're in.
Just advising you that you may any replies from me tomorrow (possibly 2+ days if I don't get reconnected to the fibre network) since I am moving house, as mentioned before.
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Ok, no problem. I'll be waiting.
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Hi aarsyl,
I run my TF300T fully stock. I agree with you, sometimes it feels laggy, but hey, it's a budget tablet with high-end specs (well, mostly). Anyway, like you, I intend to grab a 32gb N7.2 sometime during the rest of the year, hoping to catch the release of the LTE (mobile) version, but not out of disappointment on my TF300T, just because is way more practical to carry and use while in the streets. :good:
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I'm not exactly purchasing a new tab out of my disappointment. It is my disappointment that sparked my curiosity of a new device. Somewhere during my search, I realized that I do not need such a large device for my daily use. I use my tab is portrait quite a bit, so a slimmer device is preferable.
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Ok, no problem. I'll be waiting.
I'm not exactly purchasing a new tab out of my disappointment. It is my disappointment that sparked my curiosity of a new device. Somewhere during my search, I realized that I do not need such a large device for my daily use. I use my tab is portrait quite a bit, so a slimmer device is preferable.
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Okay, I'm back. Thanks for waiting. :laugh:
I'm sending files (quite a few mp3's actually ) to the tablet via Bluetooth. Will update this post to say weather they were successful or not. Lets hope they transfer properly. :fingers-crossed:
****WILL UPDATE WITH RESULTS HERE****
This finished a while back, but I forgot about it.
To Tablet.
Successful:victory:: 20
Failed: 0
Total: 20
From tablet (Same files).
Successful:victory:: 20
Failed: 0
Total: 20
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Do you want me to add anything else?

Nope. Nothing else. You have a good device, and I simply do not. I should very oiled that squeaky wheel when I had the chance, but now that squeaky wheel is stuck...figuratively speaking.
I appreciate your time and effort. One more question, are you running a stock or rooted rom/kernel?
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Nope. Nothing else. You have a good device, and I simply do not. I should very oiled that squeaky wheel when I had the chance, but now that squeaky wheel is stuck...figuratively speaking.
I appreciate your time and effort. One more question, are you running a stock or rooted rom/kernel?
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We moved pretty much everything to the new house, but we're not connected to the fiber there. I'm currently at the old house, checking stuff and doing some final touch ups. We still have internet here. But I digress.
I'm running stock .15.3 rom and kernel. It has been rooted via motterchopper and has the XPOSED framework installed, along with a few hand modules. About a year and a bit old, with extended warranty. It's also has a locked boot loader.
I'm grateful for your appreciation; it's people like you that make XDA better as a community. :good:
you have my approval to get a N7.2013, as your TF300T doesn't seem to be the fasted of the pack.
See you round XDA. Have a great day
Live long and prosper.

1337 H4X0R said:
We moved pretty much everything to the new house, but we're not connected to the fiber there. I'm currently at the old house, checking stuff and doing some final touch ups. We still have internet here. But I digress.
I'm running stock .15.3 rom and kernel. It has been rooted via motterchopper and has the XPOSED framework installed, along with a few hand modules. About a year and a bit old, with extended warranty. It's also has a locked boot loader.
I'm grateful for your appreciation; it's people like you that make XDA better as a community. :good:
you have my approval to get a N7.2013, as your TF300T doesn't seem to be the fasted of the pack.
See you round XDA. Have a great day
Live long and prosper.
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Who said that I needed your approval? Just kidding.
I am using the new tablet (16gb version, since 32gb was nowhere to be found), and the difference between the two is amazing! It just updated all of the apps, and the tab felt just as if o just picked it up from sitting idle. You notice no lag whatsoever...so far. I don't regret my decision one bit. Got a warranty on this one, though.
The new size does take some getting used to, but I'm adaptable. The transition shouldn't take very long for me.
Thanks again for your advice, testing, and very kind words.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Go for it NOW
I am a user of TF 300T> to TF700T> Amazor Fire HD 8.7 and now Google nexus7 FHD 2013
I one word Buy the N7 FHD NOW.
It is fast , slim , Portable , charges wirelessly and cheap with respect to what it can do.
I use it for Podcast ( both watch ) and steam to bluetooth, Play songs, ocassional gaming , Movies, browing( FB, Linkedin etc, Gmail ).
The only situation where I found it limited was reading Magazines in Zinio. Although fast enough the const zomming in and out takes the pleasute of E magazine .
Anil