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Hi,
I am sorry if this topic previously has been discussed, butI have googled it for some time and haven't found any solutions.
I need to be abla to beam music from one android phone to another, i.e. use the phone as media renderer. I have two old android phones which I use only for sound in my bed room and living room. I would therefore want a way to control these phones from my primary phones. There are some ways to use them as media servera, etc., but I cant't the solution.
So, please help wouldn't this be possible? I guess a lot of people out there have old phones, which could be awesome to control from remote.
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Nice idea!
Hi, this is actually a interesting idea! I have an old G1 and if it can be recognized as a renderer I
Could plug it to external speakers and beam music to it from my Desire.
Result : cheap wireless speakers system!
I'm sure that someone must have tried this before.
Any experience to share?
BUMP
no news on this?
Will Skifta work? (Its on the market)
Thanks for your answer, but Skifta works exactly as other Android streaming apps - the music on the tv/computer can be controlled, not the other way around. I want to remote control the music on android from remote (e.g. from another android device).
Have you tried twonkey media?
It should do the trick... need to install it on both phones, then set one up as the library and the other as the output.
No, I have already tried Twonky player, but it does not allow me to beam the music from on android phone to another. If have two phones, A and B, I want to be able to control the music player on B, which is connected to the hifi in the livingroom from phone A, which is in the kitchen. Twonky, and other options allows me to stream music from phone B to A, but I want to control the B player, which I am nowhere close to. Does that make sense? It has to work like Gmote, where it is possible to control music from the phone on the computer, but here I want to control the music on B instead of a computer.
Ah, I see. You have a phone connected to your stereo playing music. You want to be able to control that phone with another one wirelessly.
I think you are SOL... I haven't heard of anything like that. You may be able to cobble something together with Tasker and gtalk/sms messages (ie. send a message like "next song" to the other phone that Tasker picks up and performs the action).
I've been looking for this as well to repurpose my HTC Hero and have finally found it!
An app called ArcMC Media Server and Player (market link) can turn any phone into a DLNA receiver. You can then use your other phone as the server with Twonky or similar. I almost made an additional hardware purchase for this but now my old phone does it just as well.
The app looks new which might explain why no one has found it and the bad review average so far. Also it requires 2.2 which may be a limitation for some. Installing a custom rom can fix that though.
edit: sorry, I may be confused. I want my new phone "play to" my old phone. For that my old phone needed to be a receiver, which Twonky does not do. The media lives on and is controlled by my new phone, I just use my old phone to receive it and output it to the speakers.
BubbleUPnP
FYI
I just found this app, which looks promising...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118891
I will install this on my HD2 that is connected to my outdoor speakers and I will then hopefully be abe to control the music from my Galaxy S2...
Cheers
Jonas
Here's one for ya... i went from an iphone 4 to an Atrix (woo hoo!) and would like to control my iphone music from my android. it is jail broken.
I know it's a long shot but figure'd it's the XDA forum, ya never know.
I can push YouTube videos from a phone that has Twonky Beam installed to a phone with ArkMC installed. I tried it with Samsung Infuse and Samsung Captivate.
jonolo said:
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I just found this app, which looks promising...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118891
I will install this on my HD2 that is connected to my outdoor speakers and I will then hopefully be abe to control the music from my Galaxy S2...
Cheers
Jonas
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Of the apps mentioned so far in this thread, BubbleUPNP is the one I found the most stable and most useful.
I'm using it to stream from my PC, from foobar with the uPNP plugin. Winamp is my preferred music player but foobar just works so smoothly as a control point for uPNP that there's not even a choice!
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I can push YouTube videos from a phone that has Twonky Beam installed to a phone with ArkMC installed. I tried it with Samsung Infuse and Samsung Captivate.
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ArkMC now supports YouTube as well. It's possible to subscribe for YT channels and share them to DLNA/UPnP device in local network.
Android Renderer
+1 for Arkmc . Using it for almost 1 year as a renderer on my old HTC.
Main reason why i own Apple product at the moment is being able to stream music from my iphone 4 to my speakers using airplay+airport express.
So first is there somebody who maybe have gotten airplay already do this with combination of Android 3.x tablet?
I believe there's app called Honey Player for Android, but is it any good on 3.x, does it work?
If there's no convenient way make this happen trough airport express are there some other options for Android? Maybe some way to do this via dlna?
No, i'm not talking about bluetooth here. I'm trying to stream high bit rate music to my 2.1 set at home.
Looking for an app that will stream all system audio over airplay (example would be airport express).
An example of why this would be really great would be for Apps like Rdio and Spotify. By having an application agnostic way to stream it would work for numerous apps. I know there are players out in the market that do play to airplay speakers, however the audio has to come from them (IE would not work streaming based applications).
Anyone have any thoughts or know of any apps that could do this?
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I would think not. I honestly don't know what's so good about airplay. I have bluetooth and my ipod touch can play music to that with no problem!
Anyway, you probably could find a way to do it however, since it isn't cooked into the OS, you probably don't have a hope.
Oh, and Air Play doesn't work with every ipod touch app either, unless you know a very special trick (and perhapse a jailbreak).
I am sorry about this.
Try Doubletwist.
What i like about airplay is the integration into my home theater system. My home theater has numerous available sources and 3x sets of speakers for different sections of the house. This allows me to play what i want where i want it.
If I could get some sort of bluetooth device that has a range of 150 feet (as i can be on the deck or anywhere in the house) then that works. Any suggestions?
I thinks its a very low likelihood that anything exists now.
The base parts are there: the bluetooth audio redirects system audio, and other apps stream to airplay. So its a matter of combining them.
aibo: I was under the impression that doubletwist will play to airplay only if the audio plays through it. IE music local to the device. If doubletwist would allolw music played from the rdio or spotify app that would be what i want.
also very interested in this. looking for an app that can play ALL phone audio over airplay.
yes, bluetooth is great, but has the distinct disadvantage of shorter range than wifi (used by airplay).
anyone know of anything?
DLNA
Your stereo probably has DLNA support, so you could try finding an app for that. DLNA is almost identical to AirPlay. I don't know why Apple made their own system instead of just implementing DLNA.
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Your stereo probably has DLNA support, so you could try finding an app for that. DLNA is almost identical to AirPlay. I don't know why Apple made their own system instead of just implementing DLNA.
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DLNA poses the same problem. There is no method of pushing *all* sound through DLNA only sound from the DLNA enabled apps. I too would love *some* systemwide method of streaming other than bluetooth, but I have yet to find one. One that does audio and video would be perfect. The HDMI cable works great, but I have broken 1 cable and 1 adapter because the point where the mini HDMI goes into the wire/adapter is the weak point in the event of cable flex.
As to the question of why Apple made a new system it is pretty simple. Apple gets a royalty from every iDock device sold as it is their patent, the same holds true for airplay, they get a royalty for every airplay device sold. They feel they have the market share to force users to purchase these devices. And let's face it, for whatever reason the Android manufacturers missed the boat on this one. If Android had established a standard A/V port on every device we too would have a mutitude of docks to connect our devices to, but it never happened. That is the one and only thing I wish we had from the Apple world.
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DLNA poses the same problem. There is no method of pushing *all* sound through DLNA only sound from the DLNA enabled apps. I too would love *some* systemwide method of streaming other than bluetooth, but I have yet to find one. One that does audio and video would be perfect. The HDMI cable works great, but I have broken 1 cable and 1 adapter because the point where the mini HDMI goes into the wire/adapter is the weak point in the event of cable flex.
As to the question of why Apple made a new system it is pretty simple. Apple gets a royalty from every iDock device sold as it is their patent, the same holds true for airplay, they get a royalty for every airplay device sold. They feel they have the market share to force users to purchase these devices. And let's face it, for whatever reason the Android manufacturers missed the boat on this one. If Android had established a standard A/V port on every device we too would have a mutitude of docks to connect our devices to, but it never happened. That is the one and only thing I wish we had from the Apple world.
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I totally agree. Wouldn't it be nice if we could stream all our audio to wireless (airplay) docks....
Says an owner of a BW Zeppelin Air
MP3's is no problem at all, but Radio, Podcasts or games would even be better
For those of you not familiar with Rogue Amoeba they are the developers of a very popular iOS/OS X and now Windows application called Airfoil that is capable of streaming any audio source to any Airplay capable device or any device with their "Airspeaker" app installed on it.
As you can imagine they have had great success with this app. Unfortunately they have no plans to develop a version for android. This was made clear in a post in February located here:
rogueamoeba.com/utm/2012/02/18/sending-any-audio-to-android-devices-via-airplay-with-airfoil/
I also contacted Paul Kafasis (CEO of RA) and his response was the same explaining further that Android actively prevents access to it's audio making it nearly impossible to develop an app for android. I've included our conversation below as well.
ME:
I would like to officially submit my request to have the Airfoil app developed for Android.
With over 300,000,0000 android devices sold worldwide as of February 2012 (over 10 times the amount of iOS devices despite a 16 month head start) and another 850,0000 activated every day the potential here is absolutely enormous.
Please seriously reconsider your decision to not develop for android at this time.
PAUL:
Hi Drew,
It's an interesting idea, but at this time, I'm afraid we have no plans for Airfoil for Android. While Android allows for more access than iOS, it's still nearly impossible to grab another application's audio to send it out. As such, Airfoil for Android is a difficult proposition at best.
Perhaps more likely is an Airfoil Speakers client for Android, enabling you to *receive* audio on Android. We don't have any announced plans for that either, but it's likely what you'd see first, before an Airfoil for Android.
Anyhow, we'll keep our eye on the platform, and see what happens!
ME:
Paul,
Thanks for the quick response. I am not a programmer so I won't pretend to know the complexities involved with grabbing the audio output of the device and redirecting it but I wouldn't think it would be extremely difficult to redirect all audio on the device no different than when you plug in a set of headphones or send your audio over Bluetooth. This is what I believe to be the primary feature of your software. Being able to set each app individually to use airplay as a receiver would be nice but certainly not necessary for initial releases. I would hate to see someone beat you to it since you've done such a great job on your iOS, OS X and Windows applications.
PAUL:
Drew,
You wouldn't think so, no, but it is. Android simply does not make this functionality possible, and actively prevents it.
Anyway,
Where I'm getting with all this is that a lot of people would like to see an app with this capability developed for android. Especially now that a large number of devices (receivers, speakers, etc.) in recent years have started to come with airplay compatibility out of the box. People have been requesting this from Airfoil for over 2 years with no response. I was hoping to get the following answered from someone with an intimate knowledge of the capabilities of android:
1. Is it possible to develop an app that is capable of routing all audio on an android device to an Airplay device?
2. If not possible on a locked device, is it possible on a unlocked/rooted device?
3. Is this something anyone on here would be capable or interested in developing?
Thanks for all the help.
Anyone have any opinion or feedback on this? Is it possible is it not?
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Anyone have any opinion or feedback on this? Is it possible is it not?
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I would LOVE to see an app like that! My whole house is wired for airplay with 6 zones and speakers in all ceilings. Iphones can play music in any room. Only app for Android is Honey Player and that is terribly buggy
It would be awesome if it was just possible to send ALL audio like bluetooth A2DP !!!
I just wanted to add my desire for such an app as well. I have airfoil all set up so I can stream from my laptop to my HTPC but it would be awesome if I could do it from my Android phone and tablet.
There must be a developer on here that could do such a thing and I for one would be willing to donate.
The last thing i want is to propagate the Apple jail cell.. they are the only kid on the block that does not want to play with others... and yes, i own an iPad.
I USED to want to get airplay running in my house but i realised that my Samsung Galaxy Note, Blackberry BB9930, Dell PC, HP desktop, HP laptop, Gateway Netbook and Sony TV ALL support DLNA and so i have stopped caring about my iPad and its audio...
A DLNA app for Ios and an itunes plug-in would be the way to get universality here
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The last thing i want is to propagate the Apple jail cell.. they are the only kid on the block that does not want to play with others... and yes, i own an iPad.
I USED to want to get airplay running in my house but i realised that my Samsung Galaxy Note, Blackberry BB9930, Dell PC, HP desktop, HP laptop, Gateway Netbook and Sony TV ALL support DLNA and so i have stopped caring about my iPad and its audio...
A DLNA app for Ios and an itunes plug-in would be the way to get universality here
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DLNA is fine for streaming media files from one device to another but it is not capable of streaming media from a streaming service. I.e. streaming Google music or Tune In via airplay to your home stereo. Really the only solution to date is airplay or bluetooth and bluetooth just doesn't have the range. AM I missing some other solution?
iMediaShare has Airplay capabilities, I use it to stream to my AppleTV(s).
iMediaShare is not compatible with Airport Express at the moment...I tool would be willing to pay for an "Airfoil for android" type application the key being that it can send ANY audio source to the Airport Express.
Plus 1!
I am still looking for this! My apple days are over, but I still own 3 Airport Express devices and 1 appleTV.
JB has ability to do USB audio. Are we getting any closer to "airfoil-like" app for android. I too have 4 zones set up in whole house audio, and hate my first gen ipad these days. Whoever makes this app will make some serious money on the market.
Any news regarding this...?
Seriously... this would be a gold mine for the developer. There are so many Airplay speakers out there that would make playing music to your speakers so much easier.
Isn't it possible to root your device and send all sound output directly to an airplay device?
Sincerely
L
Airplay for Android? I think i'll try that!
i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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It may be a bit late now that miracast has been established and is starting to go into devices. It pretty much does the same thing as airplay except a little better. However it's still brand new so there aren't many devices that support it yet.
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i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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I'd be interested in this as well. My GF has a airport express that I would love to stream to from my tablet/phone.
Negreac said:
It may be a bit late now that miracast has been established and is starting to go into devices. It pretty much does the same thing as airplay except a little better. However it's still brand new so there aren't many devices that support it yet.
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While I agree that Miracast duplicates some of the features of AirPlay, that doesn't change the fact that many people already have AirPlay devices (eg AirPort Express) and don't want to buy new hardware if/when it's available.
I would love a "Airfoil for Android"-type app.
However, as a workaround, does this sound like something feasible?
1. Connect Android device to PC via Bluetooth.
2. Setup PC as a Bluetooth speaker for the Android device. (Is this possible?)
3. Use Airfoil to route audio: Android > Bluetooth > PC > Airfoil > AirPort Express (I've never used Airfoil, so I don't know if this is possible.)
Just wanted to add my support for something like this. I would gladly pay money for this app. I have a Galaxy S2 skyrocket and a Nexus 7. I would love to be able to use my nexus 7 as an audio receiver and stream music from my phone (Play Music / Pandora / Songza / etc) to it. I realize I could set up these apps on the n7 itself and play directly that way, but the key is having the ability to control the music from my phone. Additionally, my friends who have Android phones and the app should be able to do the same with relative ease.
Currently I have AirFoil on my laptop and Android HiFi installed on my n7 and stream music that way. That is less than ideal. I don't understand why this is so difficult? But then again, I'm not a programmer.
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While I agree that Miracast duplicates some of the features of AirPlay, that doesn't change the fact that many people already have AirPlay devices (eg AirPort Express) and don't want to buy new hardware if/when it's available.
I would love a "Airfoil for Android"-type app.
However, as a workaround, does this sound like something feasible?
1. Connect Android device to PC via Bluetooth.
2. Setup PC as a Bluetooth speaker for the Android device. (Is this possible?)
3. Use Airfoil to route audio: Android > Bluetooth > PC > Airfoil > AirPort Express (I've never used Airfoil, so I don't know if this is possible.)
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I guess that works. I feel like it's kind of overkill and it sucks that you'd have to daisy-chain using both bluetooth and a laptop/desktop. But in the absence of anything else, we have to make due, right?
Airfoil can't intercept audio from the bluetooth stack server, I've tried.
I am also interested in such app
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I am also interested in such app
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We all are. It is shocking nothing has come of this.
It is indeed shocking. I'm guessing there's not a lot of work being done because it is too difficult (though I don't quite understand why that is). I am hoping Google blesses us with miracast in the next release.
Hey, I wanted to say that I am really loving x3maniacs build of Ubuntu for tf101, Tubuntu, it's revitalized a piece of hardware I didn't even know needed revitalizing.
I only had one or two questions involving audio. Is there any way to get Jack Audio working on an ARM processor, this one in particular? I've read enough to know that they don't play nice together, but I've read of some success getting it to work with the ARM based Pandaboard through an external audio interface compatible with Ubuntu/Linux. I'd much rather prefer the software way, but anything would be awesome.
And I guess that's part of my second question: Is there any way to get USB midi interfaces or Audio Interfaces recognized? Maybe recognized is the wrong word, because I scanned the ports with my Korg microkey plugged in, and it saw a device labeled KORG, but I think I need to be able to use a midi softsynth like timidity or fluidsynth to have it translate to an application.
I'm already really impressed with this build, and linux in general, I know it's very midi capable, it recognized my psx controllers hooked up with a super dual box pro, and as two seperate midi game controllers no less with fully working thumb axis controllers (which is more than I can say for android).
I should also mention that I'm really interested in this because LMMS (Linux MultiMedia Studio), Audacity, and the Hydrogen sampler all seem to be up and running really well on Tubuntu, I mean I'm more than happy with that. I can even use an adapter to split the microphone input and audio output in the headphone jack so I can plug my guitar, bass, and microphones in and record directly into Audacity. More than I ever could've imagined doing with this hardware.
And anyone who's into audio production or beat making, you should really check out LMMS on Tubuntu, full of instruments, plugin effects, and an Sf2 (soundfont) player, all with really manageble latency considering.
so even though I'm happy where it's at, I'm just wondering if that one small, yet crucial and difficult to work around, piece can be figured out. Jack would open the system up to programs like Ardour, Rosegarden, Musecore (which actually works but crashes when you try to go into preferences and can't play sound, think it's automatically configured to jack or alsa_seq), and Traverso, which all start up, but can't really be used without Jack; or the world of guitar amp modeling, as there's a way to get a guitar signal in.
Sorry for the long post, but I am really excited by the sheer number of things that are already working in this build (not even mentioning GIMP or Libreoffice).
Really, thanks to everyone for their hard work on this. Hope to hear from someone on the issue.
Oh, and I should warn anyone who might try, excessive installing and uninstalling of audio drivers/midi drivers seems to lead to instability in the system, I've reflashed and started from scratch many times in the last few days.
Also, also, I usually found my self in search of snd-seq modprobe file/directory, that seemed to be the thing that couldn't be found and connected to jack most often.
Alright, thanks again.