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is prolonged charging harmful?

i leave my xoom charging before sleeping, so at some point, it reaches 100% while I'm asleep. I unplug it only when I wake up in the morning.
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If the guys from motorola only know a little bit about what they are doing, its not harmful.

All devices today are designed with protections against overcharging. I keep mind hooked up to the charger all day at my desk. Don't worry about it.
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It is bad though. I know a lot of people who overcharge their laptops and gadgets and their devices stop holding charges. Their laptops have to be plugged in all day and night just for them to be able to use it.

Traditional theory is that you should try to drain the battery as much as possible between charges so you have fewer total recharges. If you are plugging it in every night you are likely to start seeing diminished capacity is 1.5 - 2 years and may need a battery replacement at 2-3 years. If you only need to plug it in every other night, you can effectively double the battery life.

KerryG said:
Traditional theory is that you should try to drain the battery as much as possible between charges so you have fewer total recharges. If you are plugging it in every night you are likely to start seeing diminished capacity is 1.5 - 2 years and may need a battery replacement at 2-3 years. If you only need to plug it in every other night, you can effectively double the battery life.
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what this ^^ guy said.
The batteries used today don't have "memory" any more, but the materials used internally have a service life, rated in charging cycles.
If 2 XOOMs with identical hardware and software were both used exactly the same, but 1 was plugged in every night regardless of need, and the other plugged in every other night, the effective charging life span of the battery internals would be approximately doubled.
But this doesn't actually answer your question.
No, leaving the XOOM plugged in will not hurt the battery or device.
Li-Ion is actually some what unstable. So the Mfgs incorporate overload protection circuitry into the battery itself.
It keeps the battery from being charged or drained too much.
The Li-Ion will become unstable above and below certain voltages.
Bump charging is an attempt to defeat this system, its like topping off the gas tank in your car.
If this protection fails the battery could overheat and potentially rupture.
I'm sure you remember the exploding laptop battery issues not too long ago?

Battery to blame for some reboots?

just had a thought, my g2x just started rebooting like crazy i.e it would get to the tmobile g2x android start up animation and after it finishes it would reboot. my battery was around 30%-35% at the time i was thinking maybe the battery cant maintain a decent voltage and it falls below the g2x voltage threshold while under load and boom instant reboot. this could also explain why some batteries heat up to hot as well, they dont have a high enough discharge rate to keep up with the demands of the phone.
this can be solved one of two ways get a larger capacity battery of the same discharge rate. or get a higher discharge rate battery of the same size. both of those will allow the phone to draw more power without overtaxing the battery and would keep the battery cooler as well.

I wouldn't be surprised if the battery drivers are the culprit for all our issues. The phone can't properly read the battery charge and so the battery overheats or the phone reboots itself in hopes of getting a better reading on the battery.

i noticed my phone starts to heat up when the battery level hits around 40%. i never really understood why.

Mine once rebooted when it was plugged in and 100% charged. I think when it's plugged in it draws power from charger not the battery. So your theory, if true, only explains some reboots, not all.
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rhinology said:
Mine once rebooted when it was plugged in and 100% charged. I think when it's plugged in it draws power from charger not the battery. So your theory, if true, only explains some reboots, not all.
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I may be mistaken, but if it was in fact 100% then it was probably drawing from the battery at that point. I believe that once they reach 100% they will cycle between battery usage and charging.

well i know from using lipo batterys in my r/c planes and cars that if you draw them below 3v it can damage the battey im not sure what Li-ion low voltage is but its near the same basicly once the battery hit around 3.6 volts at rest its empty and will not hold voltage at all.
and for the 100% full charge if the battery drivers is fubar it could be overcharging your battery and damaging it so it has less capacity so when it pulls a draw it cant keep up and reboots

I plug my phone in every day before going to bed, and unplug it in the morning. If G2x doesn't have overcharging protection my battery would have been damaged long ago.
Also, I used the phone several times when it was charged 100% and still plugged in, never saw battery percentage went to 99% then back to 100%. So I believe when 100% and plugged in, it won't cycle power source through battery and charger.
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I will add a little information that may or may not have relevance. I have 4 batteries for my G2X (This is my solution to the short battery life). The LG battery, $25 AceSoft battery, and two $6 generic Chinese batteries. None of them including the dirt cheap ones cause my phone to reboot. Conclusions can be drawn from this information but I'm going to leave that up to someone else. If you want to test the battery hypothesis I suggest you buy some of those cheap batteries off of eBay and see if something changes. Would be a rather inexpensive experiment.

I agree, ever since I started using a 1900mah battery from ebay, the random reboots and freezing issues have disappeared completely, and I have been using the phone for almost a month now. Please try a different battery to get rid of random reboots and overheating issue. Hope it will help someone.
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you know what, I bought 3 ebay batteries so I can swap them around if i don't have a charger. none of them did the black lock screen. weird.

I had random reboot issues using some of the custom roms + original battery.
Then I bought a charger + batteries off ebay, and reset to original rom, and havn't had a single reboot/freeze since.

i just had my second reboot in cyanogen with my battery at 32% after if rebooted it went back up to 45%. i was playing galaxy on fire 2 when it rebooted. and according to battery monitor it was pulling 931mA when it rebooted.
i think the battery discharge rate is substandard for this phone this is a high performance phone and you cant just stick a normal cell phone battery in and expect it to work. this is in part why some of the reboots are happening and why when people got new battery they problem went away for them.

You might be on to something. Everytime my phone restarts it is because it is overheating.
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i wish we had more info on the batterys lg used like the discharge rate and everything. i bet they are .5c or 1c discharge that would be why they overcheat when under heavy use or charging

I got a replacement battery from T-Mobile this past Tuesday, and had two random reboots within an hour. However, since then, I haven't had one issue. 4 days and counting going strong... Knocking on wood. Phone is stock and rooted.

well i know cm fixed the battery should be in his next build also data speeds with gingerbread, should be build 54 not 53, something is wrong with 53 and root access so they are going to have it fixed im pretty sure in 54, here peep this via twitter.........
@CM_arcee RC
My dark magical powers have beaten the G2x's radio into submission. Starting tonight, p999 gets a battery meter and twice the data speed
3 hours ago via web

while that is awsome news i dont think the battery meter for the phone is really the problem it happens when the draw on the battery pulls it below 3v under load the batterys low voltage cutoff kicks in and shuts the phone off and then the spings back up and the phone restarts

I think it could be the chargers causing issues. My gf pulled my g2x charger out of the box and said it made her phone whacky and died after a few hours.
Her comment made me think about it.
I never had battery issues but I use my old nexus one and zune charger.
Food for thought
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My wall charger is bad, out bricks the phone every time I use it. Have to charge via USB.
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3500 mAh battery?

I have bought two of these the first one swelled up until the cover wouldn't fit... now the second one the charge just goes away in idle... i am wondering if other people complaining about not being able to keep a charge is a battery issue and not a rom... i am constantly going back to my factory battery...it seems to hold a charge longer and keep its ability to hold a charge over years of use better than these after market bigger batteries... does anyone know of a good replacement that stays good over time?
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How long have you had them? Totally sucks to hear that - I just bought mine a few weeks ago and love it thus far. I haven't had a problem with the original battery but I work 12 hour shifts in a cellular black hole. Even with data/wifi/GPS turned off, I normally leave dangling from a thread... I know that any lithium ion battery requires proper "care and maintenance" - have you been good about letting it discharge appropriately and not keeping it plugged in all the time?

My original battery lasted 10 months. It stopped holding a charge so I purchased the OEM 2600 battery and cover. Works like a champ - I get a full days use - and I only recharge it overnight. I am running stock/rooted/debloated, but I expect Tweaked to provide even better battery life. In my experience a swelling battery is due to excessive heat.
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Reilly1812 said:
My original battery lasted 10 months. It stopped holding a charge so I purchased the OEM 2600 battery and cover. Works like a champ - I get a full days use - and I only recharge it overnight. I am running stock/rooted/debloated, but I expect Tweaked to provide even better battery life. In my experience a swelling battery is due to excessive heat.
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Or charging too fast, or a defective battery

thanks... i try good battery practice... lol... but wen I am on low and near a socket... i get what I can...i will try finding the larger oem battery... mine was a cheap one...and as for charging I have to use a tablet charger because it's the only one that works on a 74volt socket in a locomotive...
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[Q] Does hot swapping batteries kill their life over time?

When I first got my Galaxy S3 (Verizon) the OEM battery lasted at least a good 9 or 10 hours, usually plenty to last the day. But I wanted more than that so I got a pack of 2x QCell 2300mAh batteries for cheap on amazon, with one of the wall chargers that you pop the battery into. That was July of last year and I promptly lost one of the batts at school, so in May of this year I got another pack of 2 batts, this time EZOPower, 2100mAh.
Both brands worked pretty well while I had them and I would generally just start the day taking my GS3 off the charger and putting the extra battery in my pocket, and at ~8pm or so I'd switch them out and have more than enough for the rest of the day, and some for the next day if I didn't make it home for some reason that night.
But recently that time to switch has been creeping down earlier and earlier, and lately I've noticed I wake up to the battery icon showing the circle but no percentage (just switched from AOSP to Pacrom, dunno if that makes a difference) and when I take it off it's about 95%. When I switch batts, which is now at about 2 or 3pm if I wake up at 10, the second one (coming off the cheap battery-only wall charger) is at 75% or thereabouts and each lasts less than 5 hours.
Attached are my stats from the other day. I keep all my radios on all day usually but lately I've been having to selectively put it on airplane mode whenever I can afford to, if I want to have enough juice to last through the evening. This sucks. I know batteries die over time but I've literally had these ones for a few months and they're terrible already. Is it because of my hot swapping habits? Does that drive down the battery life over time, or is it something to do with how android pegs the amount of juice left on each battery? Is there a way to wipe the battery stats, or would that even help? There used to be an option for it in CWM but I looked today and I suppose it's gone. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I've never had battery life this bad on any phone.
tl;dr bought a pair of non-OEM batteries with a wall charger, been hot-swapping them for more power throughout the day, but in just a few months their life is approaching nil. What am I doing wrong?

Bump. Anyone knowledgeable on this? I'm pretty sure it could apply to just about any phone and I know plenty of other people do the same thing I do with these battery pairs on Amazon so this would be useful for progeny.

Do you leave them in the charger until you need them? Usually, the longer a battery charges while it's fully charged, the more the total charge will diminish. So, the longer you keep it charging more than it needs to, the faster the battery dies out. Also, when you get a new rechargeable battery, or even a new phone or tablet with a rechargeable battery in it, the first thing you should do is use it till it's drained. Don't immediately plug it in to the charger. Keep in mind, though, that no matter what you do your batteries will diminish. Cheaply made batteries will diminish faster than higher quality ones, so that may attribute to how fast your batteries are dieing.
I could be wrong, though.

I actually do keep it on the charger long after it's charged. And I have heard that before - but don't most chargers have a built in feature that cuts off the current once the battery is fully charged?
Anyway I'm not sure that's the sole reason for the batteries being so ****ty. Although idk, I also could be wrong, lol.

Best battery life tip: don't use the turbo charger!

So, I own this phone for a few weeks now and I got pretty frustrated about the battery life on this phone as I was getting 3 hrs of SOT a best.
Then I decided not to stress the battery so much by charging it with the included turbopower 25 charger all the time, and use my old (5V 2.1A) charger overnight instead. Then I was surprised to see my SOT going up to about 4.5-5hrs.
I did some research about fast charging techonlogy and found out that when you fast charge you typically don't get as much charge into a battery as with a slow charge.
I still use the turbo charger when I am short on time, but using my regular one definetely does add more juice to the battery, thus, helping it last throughout the day.

sleepdownloader said:
So, I own this phone for a few weeks now and I got pretty frustrated about the battery life on this phone as I was getting 3 hrs of SOT a best.
Then I decided not to stress the battery so much by charging it with the included turbopower 25 charger all the time, and use my old (5V 2.1A) charger overnight instead. Then I was surprised to see my SOT going up to about 4.5-5hrs.
I did some research about fast charging techonlogy and found out that when you fast charge you typically don't get as much charge into a battery as with a slow charge.
I still use the turbo charger when I am short on time, but using my regular one definetely does add more juice to the battery, thus, helping it last throughout the day.
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Will definitely try that out. Cuz my usage gets me around 4 -4.5 or even 6 if I read a little. So if this happens for me too I'm gonna get some nice battery life.

Curlyfry2121 said:
Will definitely try that out. Cuz my usage gets me around 4 -4.5 or even 6 if I read a little. So if this happens for me too I'm gonna get some nice battery life.
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It doesn't really matter, at least not that significantly... something else is the cause.
Using a turbo charger could change the longevity of the battery, over time, due to heat buildup and breakdown of the internal components due to more stress, but it wouldn't just "get better" switching to standard charger... I charge my phone half the week on a standard charger when at home, and when traveling I use a quick charger. If I am on either at home or on the road for a few weeks at a time and my battery life doesn't change. Well, not because of the charger, but at home I am within 30' of a very high quality WiFi router all the time and essentially never on mobile data, on the road it's the complete opposite.
If you did your researching into Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 (and higher) standards you would see that the issue of batteries not getting a full charge from the original QuickCharge/Fast Charge standard has been remedied with high voltage charging automatically downgraded to "standard" voltage charging during about the last 10% of the charge cycle to allow the battery to cool and take a full charge.
Not doubting your getting better SOT, just your analysis of the reason why are...

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It doesn't really matter, at least not that significantly... something else is the cause.
Using a turbo charger could change the longevity of the battery, over time, due to heat buildup and breakdown of the internal components due to more stress, but it wouldn't just "get better" switching to standard charger... I charge my phone half the week on a standard charger when at home, and when traveling I use a quick charger. If I am on either at home or on the road for a few weeks at a time and my battery life doesn't change. Well, not because of the charger, but at home I am within 30' of a very high quality WiFi router all the time and essentially never on mobile data, on the road it's the complete opposite.
If you did your researching into Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 (and higher) standards you would see that the issue of batteries not getting a full charge from the original QuickCharge/Fast Charge standard has been remedied with high voltage charging automatically downgraded to "standard" voltage charging during about the last 10% of the charge cycle to allow the battery to cool and take a full charge.
Not doubting your getting better SOT, just your analysis of the reason why are...
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Maybe you're right, I'm still monitoring my battery life on both chargers, and with the same usage, my battery does last longer when charging with the regular 5V one. I'm mostly on 3G network data and rarely use wifi, as I'm mostly only sleeping or eating at home. Maybe there are other factors making this difference, though i'm pretty sure the charger is the only difference for me. Will report if I notice anything else.

I don't see any big difference, I'm also using standard charger over night and quick when I'm in the hurry. Despite charging methods my sot time is very inconsistant from 2,5h to 4h at best.