I have bought two of these the first one swelled up until the cover wouldn't fit... now the second one the charge just goes away in idle... i am wondering if other people complaining about not being able to keep a charge is a battery issue and not a rom... i am constantly going back to my factory battery...it seems to hold a charge longer and keep its ability to hold a charge over years of use better than these after market bigger batteries... does anyone know of a good replacement that stays good over time?
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How long have you had them? Totally sucks to hear that - I just bought mine a few weeks ago and love it thus far. I haven't had a problem with the original battery but I work 12 hour shifts in a cellular black hole. Even with data/wifi/GPS turned off, I normally leave dangling from a thread... I know that any lithium ion battery requires proper "care and maintenance" - have you been good about letting it discharge appropriately and not keeping it plugged in all the time?
My original battery lasted 10 months. It stopped holding a charge so I purchased the OEM 2600 battery and cover. Works like a champ - I get a full days use - and I only recharge it overnight. I am running stock/rooted/debloated, but I expect Tweaked to provide even better battery life. In my experience a swelling battery is due to excessive heat.
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My original battery lasted 10 months. It stopped holding a charge so I purchased the OEM 2600 battery and cover. Works like a champ - I get a full days use - and I only recharge it overnight. I am running stock/rooted/debloated, but I expect Tweaked to provide even better battery life. In my experience a swelling battery is due to excessive heat.
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Or charging too fast, or a defective battery
thanks... i try good battery practice... lol... but wen I am on low and near a socket... i get what I can...i will try finding the larger oem battery... mine was a cheap one...and as for charging I have to use a tablet charger because it's the only one that works on a 74volt socket in a locomotive...
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Hi i dont know why my battery isnt completely charging! or the battery charger info is broken! anyone else not charging to 100%?
It probably hits 100% then starts draining slightly to keep it from over charging. Mine gets to 99% then I unplug and replug it and it hits 100. But that has happened with a lot of devices for me.
Happens on my evo as well. You can get around it by flashing a kernel that does trickle charging which I'm sure we'll get for the tf sooner or later.
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Happens on my evo as well. You can get around it by flashing a kernel that does trickle charging which I'm sure we'll get for the tf sooner or later.
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I would NOT use an sbc kernal on this battery, they are known to shorten battery life. Cell phone batteries are a dime a dozen, this thing is both non-user replacable and most likely not cheap.
Pretty sure its a lithium ion battery inside and you shouldnt overcharge those. You're best off keeping it between 30-90% and doing a drain and full charge once a month to prolong its life. The charger should stop charging when the battery is full on it's own anyways if you do leave it plugged in. I think it's a European law to have that as a safety feature, probably an American law for this too. So if the charger is staying hot a few minutes after your device has hit 100% charge, you've got a problem. Mine does get to 100% but yes it takes a while to top up, that's just the way these batteries operate.
just had a thought, my g2x just started rebooting like crazy i.e it would get to the tmobile g2x android start up animation and after it finishes it would reboot. my battery was around 30%-35% at the time i was thinking maybe the battery cant maintain a decent voltage and it falls below the g2x voltage threshold while under load and boom instant reboot. this could also explain why some batteries heat up to hot as well, they dont have a high enough discharge rate to keep up with the demands of the phone.
this can be solved one of two ways get a larger capacity battery of the same discharge rate. or get a higher discharge rate battery of the same size. both of those will allow the phone to draw more power without overtaxing the battery and would keep the battery cooler as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if the battery drivers are the culprit for all our issues. The phone can't properly read the battery charge and so the battery overheats or the phone reboots itself in hopes of getting a better reading on the battery.
i noticed my phone starts to heat up when the battery level hits around 40%. i never really understood why.
Mine once rebooted when it was plugged in and 100% charged. I think when it's plugged in it draws power from charger not the battery. So your theory, if true, only explains some reboots, not all.
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Mine once rebooted when it was plugged in and 100% charged. I think when it's plugged in it draws power from charger not the battery. So your theory, if true, only explains some reboots, not all.
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I may be mistaken, but if it was in fact 100% then it was probably drawing from the battery at that point. I believe that once they reach 100% they will cycle between battery usage and charging.
well i know from using lipo batterys in my r/c planes and cars that if you draw them below 3v it can damage the battey im not sure what Li-ion low voltage is but its near the same basicly once the battery hit around 3.6 volts at rest its empty and will not hold voltage at all.
and for the 100% full charge if the battery drivers is fubar it could be overcharging your battery and damaging it so it has less capacity so when it pulls a draw it cant keep up and reboots
I plug my phone in every day before going to bed, and unplug it in the morning. If G2x doesn't have overcharging protection my battery would have been damaged long ago.
Also, I used the phone several times when it was charged 100% and still plugged in, never saw battery percentage went to 99% then back to 100%. So I believe when 100% and plugged in, it won't cycle power source through battery and charger.
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I will add a little information that may or may not have relevance. I have 4 batteries for my G2X (This is my solution to the short battery life). The LG battery, $25 AceSoft battery, and two $6 generic Chinese batteries. None of them including the dirt cheap ones cause my phone to reboot. Conclusions can be drawn from this information but I'm going to leave that up to someone else. If you want to test the battery hypothesis I suggest you buy some of those cheap batteries off of eBay and see if something changes. Would be a rather inexpensive experiment.
I agree, ever since I started using a 1900mah battery from ebay, the random reboots and freezing issues have disappeared completely, and I have been using the phone for almost a month now. Please try a different battery to get rid of random reboots and overheating issue. Hope it will help someone.
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you know what, I bought 3 ebay batteries so I can swap them around if i don't have a charger. none of them did the black lock screen. weird.
I had random reboot issues using some of the custom roms + original battery.
Then I bought a charger + batteries off ebay, and reset to original rom, and havn't had a single reboot/freeze since.
i just had my second reboot in cyanogen with my battery at 32% after if rebooted it went back up to 45%. i was playing galaxy on fire 2 when it rebooted. and according to battery monitor it was pulling 931mA when it rebooted.
i think the battery discharge rate is substandard for this phone this is a high performance phone and you cant just stick a normal cell phone battery in and expect it to work. this is in part why some of the reboots are happening and why when people got new battery they problem went away for them.
You might be on to something. Everytime my phone restarts it is because it is overheating.
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i wish we had more info on the batterys lg used like the discharge rate and everything. i bet they are .5c or 1c discharge that would be why they overcheat when under heavy use or charging
I got a replacement battery from T-Mobile this past Tuesday, and had two random reboots within an hour. However, since then, I haven't had one issue. 4 days and counting going strong... Knocking on wood. Phone is stock and rooted.
well i know cm fixed the battery should be in his next build also data speeds with gingerbread, should be build 54 not 53, something is wrong with 53 and root access so they are going to have it fixed im pretty sure in 54, here peep this via twitter.........
@CM_arcee RC
My dark magical powers have beaten the G2x's radio into submission. Starting tonight, p999 gets a battery meter and twice the data speed
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while that is awsome news i dont think the battery meter for the phone is really the problem it happens when the draw on the battery pulls it below 3v under load the batterys low voltage cutoff kicks in and shuts the phone off and then the spings back up and the phone restarts
I think it could be the chargers causing issues. My gf pulled my g2x charger out of the box and said it made her phone whacky and died after a few hours.
Her comment made me think about it.
I never had battery issues but I use my old nexus one and zune charger.
Food for thought
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My wall charger is bad, out bricks the phone every time I use it. Have to charge via USB.
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and I don't remember where, but I read somewhere, some time ago, that when you get a new battery, you should fully charge, and fully discharge the battery a few times.. Is this a good idea? does it help the battery?
are there any tips, like doing a complete cycle every so often?
Also, well, I got this on Amazon so I'm hoping it really is brand new. The brand new batteries are supposed to be dead, not charged, right?
Lithium ion batteries are never shipped "dead", bad things can happen (read up on it). So when you buy a lithium ion battery it always has a charge on it. They also don't have a "memory" like older batteries do so just use it normally. When i got my Naztech battery it was fully charged!
Ouch.. So does that mean my battery isn't going to be as good as an OEM battery? It looks like it's a legit samsung battery, it has the same model #
Anyway I charged it up fully, then I had to send in my phone to Samsung, so I took it out. When it gets back I'll see how my battery life is.
Li-ion batteries aren't supposed to have a memory, however I read a lot of good articles that argue no batteries have memory. However that being said, I've had the best luck out of cycling batteries like that. We have 7 Samsung batteries for our Fascinates, and always just run them down and swap to the next battery. Whenever I get a new one I charge it up, then run it down a few times.
I always charge them, they do come partially charged, but usually not 100%.
Any battery "woes" of memory is all placebo affect much of the time. Unless the phone doesn't get a balanced charge it will have no memory. But I think these batteries are one cell so you don't have to worry about it.
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If you have 7 batteries isn't it a pain swapping them back in to charge them?
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you can get chargers, like just a wall charger that you can drop a battery or two in and it'll charge without the phone.
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I had the infuse on the AC charger the other day, when I took it off, it had a message stating charging stopped because of battery temperature. Now battery will only charge to 35% no matter how long its plugged in. Also when phone is off the charger, phone is getting very warm to the touch and the phone is not being used. Do you think I need a new battery or is the charging circuit messed up? Thanks for any input!!!
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If your able to plug it in and it shows it's charging then there is noting wrong with the circuitry. Your gonna need to replace the battery.
A new battery is much cheaper than a new phone.
Batteries heat up as the internal resistance increases over time. As Axiomkid suggests, get another battery. Do it soon. Old (or defective batteries) overheating run the risk of shorting, leaking, or exploding.
Better yet get two batteries and maintain them properly ie discharge to 10%, recharge to 100%, then swap out with another battery and let the recharged battery cool down.
Tried a new battery, it charged to 100%... but drained 50% in one hour. When I charged it again same problem is still happening. Thanks for all that helped.
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You might need a new charger too. are you using the original Samsung charger? Try charging it from a PC too. The 50% drop in the charge could be a calibration issue too. It would improve that reading over the first few charges with the new battery.
yes i am using original charger, i have use a captivate phone charger as well. i think they are both the same. i'm thinking something is wrong with the phone because after charging and taking the phone off, the phone is getting really hot without being on the charger. like the phone is being used but it's not. could maybe the rom cause an issue like this? i'm thinking maybe trying to flash the phone with a stock rom and see how much the battery drains
Problem solved!!! Reflashed ROM and all is good
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Glad to hear your problem is solved! Was that the root cause with your first battery as well?
Hey guys,
You can see the problem in the Screenshot. At one point the phone stops charging fast and goes on charging very slow. It looks like the phone thinks the battery is full and minimizes the charging power. It is a 1500mah battery, bought a few days ago. I also calibrated the battery at 100% in the 4ext recovery. CM 10.2 from 08.08.
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Provably not a problem at all. My guess would be that the battery or charging circuits were getting too hot so it dropped the charging current - fairly normal behavior.
The phone is staying completely cool. I think the calibration is wrong. It is supposed to charge slower at 90% Not something like 50
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I suspect a cheap battery... What brand is it?
Its a german brand MTec, oder via ebay.
I've noticed my battery does the exact same thing. Charges quickly to around 50% and then very slow for the remaining 50%. I'm using the original HTC battery that came with my Desire S so I just presumed that it was either the due to the battery aging or perhaps due to the CM 10.1 I'm running. Can't say I noticed this charging behaviour before I used CM 10.1 but I didn't immediately notice it after flashing either.
My phone takes around 8 hours to do a full charge. I've noticed that I can get it to charge to 100% more quickly if I let it charge to near 50%, unplug it and leave it for 5/10 mins, then plug it in again. It's starts off with a fast charge again. It slows after a while but overall it's a quicker way to get to 100%. It's probably not the best thing for your battery to do that regularly so I don't do it unless I need it to charge quickly.