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Concerns with rooting.

Hey guys I am new to the charge. I really want to root but I have some concerns first. For one I have already replaced this phone twice since I got it. If I un-root it will Verizon notice I rooted it at all? Also how safe is it? I really don't want a $300 paper weight. I rooted my old sch-m828c from straightalk and the phone wouldn't connect to the computer anymore; is that a concern with the charge? As from the last sentence I have experience with odin but my old phone lost the root somehow and i was unable to boot it back to stock. Is the charge better about stuff like that? Please respond with any help. (Best mods, safest methods etc.) Thanks in advance!
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All your questions can b answered if you just read the DC development forum posts, everything is there. Just do the research first, read all the posts.that is how I started. I read n reread all the posts for a month, downloaded relevant files made shure I understood what I read n followed the steps to rooting n flashing to the last letter. Never had any problems.
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tmanschuette said:
Hey guys I am new to the charge. I really want to root but I have some concerns first. For one I have already replaced this phone twice since I got it. If I un-root it will Verizon notice I rooted it at all? Also how safe is it? I really don't want a $300 paper weight. I rooted my old sch-m828c from straightalk and the phone wouldn't connect to the computer anymore; is that a concern with the charge? As from the last sentence I have experience with odin but my old phone lost the root somehow and i was unable to boot it back to stock. Is the charge better about stuff like that? Please respond with any help. (Best mods, safest methods etc.) Thanks in advance!
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Can u tell me how you rooted ur m828c?
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It was a long complicated process. Can't remember exactly, but you had to use all the slots in Odin.
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tmanschuette said:
It was a long complicated process. Can't remember exactly, but you had to use all the slots in Odin.
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Is there a thread with indtructions. I cant find one...
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I'm not sure.. It had been about 3 years since I did it. Just as a fair warning, the usb port stopped working after the flash.
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tmanschuette said:
I'm not sure.. It had been about 3 years since I did it. Just as a fair warning, the usb port stopped working after the flash.
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Is it even worth rooting? My wife got this phone and man was it a piece of crap. Constantly freezing and rebooting. Are there roms/kernels rhat might make this thing a decent phone to keep as a spare?
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There is no ROMs our kernels for the phone. I used it just to get Titanium Backup and Tegrak.
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sure
tmanschuette said:
Hey guys I am new to the charge. I really want to root but I have some concerns first. For one I have already replaced this phone twice since I got it. If I un-root it will Verizon notice I rooted it at all? Also how safe is it? I really don't want a $300 paper weight. I rooted my old sch-m828c from straightalk and the phone wouldn't connect to the computer anymore; is that a concern with the charge? As from the last sentence I have experience with odin but my old phone lost the root somehow and i was unable to boot it back to stock. Is the charge better about stuff like that? Please respond with any help. (Best mods, safest methods etc.) Thanks in advance!
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Honestly this phone is super easy. I was able to root with clockwork mod, install a custom kernal and flash a Tom in about two hour and evertlything worked first try and my first time ever doing any of it.
Followvthe instructions carefully and do exactly as they tell you and you should be fine.

How many times have you bricked your phone?

So... Maybe I just don't learn from my mistakes or I love custom ROMs, but I keep switching ROMs and trying different ways to make this toy more fun.
But, in the process I have to spend 30 mins daily plugging into Odin, wiping completely and starting over because I keep killing my device. Anyone else do this to their phone?

I have yet to brick this phone? I have almost tried every ROM cm aokp beans. How do you possibly brick?
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I have never. Sorry to hear youre running into softbricks. Follow the instructions for each rom. Do a complete wipe too before flashing. Its a pain but hey. Better than s***ting yourself knowing you might have a hard brick
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I've never hard bricked my phone. But I have unbricked heaps of phones
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Other peoples phones
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One time is all it took.
GS3

If you spend 30 mins a day on odin and you aren't developing your own roms or kernels and keep bricking, you really should consider reading a little more about flashing and save yourself the time and the headache. You could flash 10 roms a day and never use odin if you follow some simple steps.
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Multiple times on multiple devices!! Lol. Once when I was half asleep. Woke up to a brick. That's always hard to explain to a girl...
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Once, when I was trying to flash CM10, didn't know I had to unlock my bootloader, soft-bricked, reset everything with ODIN, then unlocked, re-flashed, and all was good.

I got the pleasure of learning the ropes on my galaxy player 5.0. Alot less of a risk there with it not being my phone, and cheaper if I f'd up! And yes, several soft bricks, some done on purpose to see what would happen. Highly recommend that type of device to learn. Buying a used phone cheap would also surfice.
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never bricked any of my phones .. ever
that being said i guess i am due

srs731 said:
I have yet to brick this phone? I have almost tried every ROM cm aokp beans. How do you possibly brick?
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voodoomanx said:
If you spend 30 mins a day on odin and you aren't developing your own roms or kernels and keep bricking, you really should consider reading a little more about flashing and save yourself the time and the headache. You could flash 10 roms a day and never use odin if you follow some simple steps.
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Bricking happens. I didn't have an issue on my HTC Devices, but on this and my Charge I seem to be building houses with all the soft bricks.
Also, it's not about putting the Roms on, it's when you have to flash back to stock after a brick that you need Odin.
The good part is I'm confident in my ability to repair the damage without breaking a sweat.
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sebastianraven said:
Bricking happens. I didn't have an issue on my HTC Devices, but on this and my Charge I seem to be building houses with all the soft bricks.
Also, it's not about putting the Roms on, it's when you have to flash back to stock after a brick that you need Odin.
The good part is I'm confident in my ability to repair the damage without breaking a sweat.
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That's the beauty about what we do. We learn from our mistakes. Fortunately for most of us, those mistakes aren't fatal. The more you learn the ins and outs of the procedures and commands, the better off you are in the long run, regardless of the device.

kidhudi said:
never bricked any of my phones .. ever
that being said i guess i am due
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Wish I could say the same..But I once had a droid X.

i only bricked my Galaxy S1 when I first got into android and flashing, and since then no bricks at all.
Instruction are made very clear, and there's no reason to brick your phone since flashing is soooo noob-friendly.
I believe you should consider sticking to stock and now flashing ROMs anymore

I've soft bricked my Fassy maybe twice, i used to brick my Omnia back in the day trying to go from wm6.1 to wm6.5
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I soft bricked my old LG Revolution like 239586254 times. But that was when I was testing things like kernels and roms made from new updates to go over old updates. Never hard bricked it though (Don't think is was possible with what I did to that thing). I have boot looped this phone a few times due to unknown reasons. Flashed AOKP and then a kernel (Wouldn't boot) Flashed AOKP it booted flashed kernel it booted but I had to boot the phone up once before flashing the kernel. Good times.

I've been rooting since hero days and never bricked or even soft bricked.
Main thing is following directions and wiping correctly.
In my experience reading posts people don't follow directions, not saying you don't, just in general
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I think the major problem for me is that at times I don't check to make sure the bootloader got re-locked somehow, That's where my problem lies. Like I said, no biggie. It happens and we fix it.

Did it to my fascinate a few times but not to my sg3 yet
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Twice on the S3 so far, only soft bricks though.
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[Q] Be very careful with Goo Manager...Hard Bricked my Skyrocket

I've been rooting phones, flashing roms, and even flashing others phones to different carriers for, 5-6 years now I'd say. So, I know what I'm doing. I recently started using Goo Manager to download things occasionally, and to say the least I'm screwed. Downloaded the latest twrp recovery and it automatically booted into recovery and flashed the image. Endpoint...hard bricked.
Just be careful with goo is all I'm saying. I never confirmed it to flash the download and it didn't even ask. As soon as it was done dl'ing it just did it. I knew instantly it was going to be problematic. Because it wasn't actually the twrp img for my skyrocket. I was downloading it to use on another phone and transfer to my computer. So, now I'm without a phone. Sucks..
Anyone know of a way to get into download mode without having to use Jtag? lol prolllly not

baddgoat said:
I've been rooting phones, flashing roms, and even flashing others phones to different carriers for, 5-6 years now I'd say. So, I know what I'm doing. I recently started using Goo Manager to download things occasionally, and to say the least I'm screwed. Downloaded the latest twrp recovery and it automatically booted into recovery and flashed the image. Endpoint...hard bricked.
Just be careful with goo is all I'm saying. I never confirmed it to flash the download and it didn't even ask. As soon as it was done dl'ing it just did it. I knew instantly it was going to be problematic. Because it wasn't actually the twrp img for my skyrocket. I was downloading it to use on another phone and transfer to my computer. So, now I'm without a phone. Sucks..
Anyone know of a way to get into download mode without having to use Jtag? lol prolllly not
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Sounds like a noob mistake and also it tells you in too manager when you select install custom recovery its not goo.managersfault its lack of reading
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I am not sure why someone that has been doing this for years would put anything on the phones memory that doesn't go with the phone for any reason. It seems like half, if not more, of the bricks that happen are because of the wrong thing trying to be installed on the phone. Knowing that, it seems like a good idea to NEVER put anything on the phone that doesn't go with the phone, if you plan on using it or not. I guess this is just another precautionary tale for others now because if you really are hard bricked then Jtag is your option. Assuming you have already tried download mode, Odin, etc...Anyone doing this as long as you would have already known to try that stuff first...right? Good luck.

I got into a similar problem with goo manager. Ended with hard brick. Will never use goo or rom manager. Odin and twrp or cmw are the way to go. And never, ever flash anything unless you know it's for your device. That was the problem with goo, it said it was but wasn't.
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baddgoat said:
I've been rooting phones, flashing roms, and even flashing others phones to different carriers for, 5-6 years now I'd say. So, I know what I'm doing. I recently started using Goo Manager to download things occasionally, and to say the least I'm screwed. Downloaded the latest twrp recovery and it automatically booted into recovery and flashed the image. Endpoint...hard bricked.
Just be careful with goo is all I'm saying. I never confirmed it to flash the download and it didn't even ask. As soon as it was done dl'ing it just did it. I knew instantly it was going to be problematic. Because it wasn't actually the twrp img for my skyrocket. I was downloading it to use on another phone and transfer to my computer. So, now I'm without a phone. Sucks..
Anyone know of a way to get into download mode without having to use Jtag? lol prolllly not
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I've got 5 devices successfully running Goomanager / TWRP, and none of them have had a single issue. I just make sure that what I am getting for each device is FOR each individual device.

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I've got 5 devices successfully running Goomanager / TWRP, and none of them have had a single issue. I just make sure that what I am getting for each device is FOR each individual device.
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I agree all my device run twrp or cwm and no issue like I mention just a noob error
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You know you can force a reboot of the phone during the download by holding the power key or pulling the battery, right? If you knew what the file was, why didn't you do that?
I've downloaded ROM files hundreds of times through GooManager and gapps files at least a few dozen on three different phones across two platforms (Rocket and Note II). I've also flashed recoveries through it more times than I can remember. It's never once caused a problem, downloaded the wrong file, or even soft-bricked me.

I thought you couldn't brick a phone by a botched recovery flash. Because it's only writing to the recovery partition and not the system. Just what I once read anyway.
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I didn't know it was the wrong file until after it installed. It was supposed to be a gapps package that went with the Rom. I't didn't look right and I should have known better but I went with goo.
Just reinforces you should always know that what ever you flash make sure it's for your specific device.
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plwalsh88 said:
I thought you couldn't brick a phone by a botched recovery flash. Because it's only writing to the record very partition and not the system. Just what I once read anyway.
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I cant agree more with you Walsh doesn't sound right but hey they learn the hard way just as we learned
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I'm no noob. I was downloading the fIle. Not flashing it. It flashed on it's own INSTANTLY after it finished downloading. Without asking. It never did that the dozens of times I downloaded stuff before. So, there.
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And yeah, I've learned to do things the old fashioned way. That's what. Based on the type of responses here, I see why some others have bad impressions of XDA members. Think whatever you want. Just sharing because it sucks. Guarantee you I know more than most of you who replied. Unless your a developer, lol.
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baddgoat said:
And yeah, I've learned to do things the old fashioned way. That's what. Based on the type of responses here, I see why some others have bad impressions of XDA members. Think whatever you want. Just sharing because it sucks. Guarantee you I know more than most of you who replied. Unless your a developer, lol.
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Very cool story, enjoy your brick!
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5-6 years of flashing and you just joined xda at the end of September?
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I only used goo manager to flash touch recovery on and I have had no problem with it..werid..
I did copy a recovery on my old SG Europa and it was the wrong one and bricked it,lucky I was able to get a replacement. You learn from your mistakes.
I have been there..

...Another thread resurrection? Seriously? Good lord.

Better late than never, eh. This is seen old thread
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spannernick said:
I only used goo manager to flash touch recovery on and I have had no problem with it..werid..
I did copy a recovery on my old SG Europa and it was the wrong one and bricked it,lucky I was able to get a replacement. You learn from your mistakes.
I have been there..
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jd1639 said:
Better late than never, eh. This is seen old thread
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Sorry didn't look at the date... Dam Google search ...lol( 4 months old)
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AHAHAHAH...NO..Spiderman got cancer...????

jd1639 said:
Better late than never, eh. This is seen old thread
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Did you see the hobbit? It clearly stated the necromancer is coming.
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Lock Recovery and download mode!!!

What i have to do if i want to lock my phone's recovery and download mode?????
One of my friends found a Galaxy S, and when he tries to det in recovery and download he could not!!!! He tried everything but nothing!!!!!!

Is the phone hard-bricked?
If not, is he doing the procedure correctly?
Is this simply found or "found"?
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Pennycake said:
Is the phone hard-bricked?
If not, is he doing the procedure correctly?
Is this simply found or "found"?
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Its not bricked.. He turned it onand it asked him for lock code.
He did not steal it because he found the owner and gave it back!!!
But I can't find out why he could not achieve R and D mode...
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Maybe the owner reported it lost / stolen and the carrier locked it down, because recovery and download would allow a wipe and re-use by the finder.

Maybe he just wasn't doing it correctly. Those things can be pretty picky and easy to mess up. Not sure if you can really "lock down" a hardware function like that, but maybe.
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bodh said:
Maybe the owner reported it lost / stolen and the carrier locked it down, because recovery and download would allow a wipe and re-use by the finder.
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Do you mean that he reported its imei and the carrier locked it down.????
My friend tried everything. He its not noon as he flashes ROMs to his i9100
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Well im also not sure what a carrier's capabilities are as far as locking down a lost / stolen phone, but surely they have some method..And dont forget that the carrier's reps scan the imei at the store, or by putting in a sim, it detects the imei, so they have it. Perhaps they can send some kind of temp kill via sim?..

[Q] Getting a bootloop, but I've never rooted or anything like that.

My sidekick has been recently just replaying the start-up screen. Once in a while it'll fully boot but then it just shuts off after a few seconds. I haven't messed around with it at all so I can't think of what may be causing this. If anyone could help that would be amazing. Thanks a lot!

Could be many things, if you debugging enabled try to get a logcat. Or if you don't mind loosing your data use hiemdall or Odin to flash back to stock fully
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Do I not need to be rooted for odin?

Nope, just put phone in download mode. If unfamiliar on how to use this I suggest hiemdall, Adam Outler made a one click hiemdall package which you can find in the first page or so of developer section, very very easy to use
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Oh awesome. Thank you so much for your help!

magnoidgoat said:
Oh awesome. Thank you so much for your help!
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The stock phone has issues id suggest you root an flash a nexus rom should fix a lot of issues
If you need text or anything "backup your mobile" or something like that works amazing
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Some users also have had issues with the display ribbon cable coming loose at the hinge. You may also want to check out your battery..
Did you install any new software? There are apps out there that will cause boot loops on Froyo/Gingerbread.
Good luck. I miss the keyboard on my Sidekick, but I don't miss that crummy Samsung abomination that powers it.