Apps/Games Market - General Topics

Hi everyone,
Maybe its a dumb question but I was just wondering..
For example, the Final Fantasy III game on the Android Market costs ~17,70 USD and till now the game has over 50.000+ downloads.. - Does that means the Developer (in this case a team of developers) earned 885.000,00 USD from the game/app !?

Yes, unlike Crapple, Google gives developers 100% of their sales. There is a $25 fee to be a dev on Google Play.
But Square Enix is a pretty big company, they make the Kingdom Hearts games and Final Fantasys for PS3, XBOX 360, Wii.
They have to pay their employees and whatnot to keep their company running
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I'm a huge square fan. I can't wait for them to release some more stuff for the android platform. I'm gonna have to hold back till they drop their prices though

gagdude said:
Yes, unlike Crapple, Google gives developers 100% of their sales. There is a $25 fee to be a dev on Google Play.
But Square Enix is a pretty big company, they make the Kingdom Hearts games and Final Fantasys for PS3, XBOX 360, Wii.
They have to pay their employees and whatnot to keep their company running
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Google take a percentage of each app sold. It is currently thirty percent to google and seventy to the developer.
I believe apple also take thirty percent so you can't say google do not take a cut, they do.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Google take a percentage of each app sold. It is currently thirty percent to google and seventy to the developer.
I believe apple also take thirty percent so you can't say google do not take a cut, they do.
Dave
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Hmm yeah I thought they didn't, could have sworn I read it somewhere before...
But I googled it and you're right
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There is a lot of money going around in phone applications. If you have a good idea for one you could be earning big money

and nsaness
So if I understood you all right, google takes 30% of the earnings for 'Administrational' stuff (marketing) Fair enough..
H3aRt_L3sS said:
There is a lot of money going around in phone applications. If you have a good idea for one you could be earning big money
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Actually, I'm going to start a few Android projects, but the main question now is: going with a free app/game and earning on adverts or putting a low price app/game on the market...

AlenDroid said:
So if I understood you all right, google takes 30% of the earnings for 'Administrational' stuff (marketing) Fair enough..
Actually, I'm going to start a few Android projects, but the main question now is: going with a free app/game and earning on adverts or putting a low price app/game on the market...
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For whatever reason apps with adverts get more downloads than pay only ones.
It may be because it is free, probably is, but ad funded applications might be better option.
If you pick apps similar to your own and look at ones with paid and also ad only versions you should notice the ad ones have more downloads.
It doesn't mean they make more money of course but it does mean that if you have an ad version you will reach people you otherwise wouldn't
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[Q] Twin Blades - No Longer in Market Place

Any idea as to what happened to Twin Blades?how come its no longer in market place. thanks
http://www.wpcentral.com/twin-blades-pulled-marketplace
Going the way of Apple, eh? but luckily Apple changed, hence the advent of great games like Resident Evil and Dead Space
its a disappointment indeed. im also wondering as to why they need to take out twin blades from market place because of the mature rating? not all kids can buy a device that is costly as windows phone, and to think most windows phone owners are matured enough to handle such content.
if this is the case, good and exciting games are being removed from circulation, i think i might as well stick with my wii. too bad wii doesnt have phone integration lol.
thanks for the info
slighmd said:
Going the way of Apple, eh? but luckily Apple changed, hence the advent of great games like Resident Evil and Dead Space
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Yeah they changed alright, hence the requirement for all apps that use external subscription (Kindle, B&N, Rhapsody..you name it) to instead go through in-app purchases, giving Apple a nice 30% cut. That's right. They want 30% of Kindle's sales that go through iPhone.
I'd argue that a "Mature" rating from the ESRB is not the same as what Microsoft meant originally when referring to "Mature Content" in their Marketplace rules. There has to be some common sense about this stuff. Blood and gore is not the same as porn.
Damn
I bought the app months ago, but installed a new sd card. Does anyone know who I can contact about getting the game again or refund my money. Rather have the game, it was great to waste five or ten minutes.
Please keep things other than app releases OUT of WP7 Apps and Games, and please read the stickied rules at the top of each forum you are in.
~~Tito~~
It sucks, bit keep in mind kids can sometimes purchase this stuff without parental consent. Theonly way to prevent this from happening is to just not let it get on the marketplace. Google hs a no porn policy for Android market, ad well. I can name examples of apps that were pulled from well known entities, but I don't want to go there...
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I'm guessing it might have been less the blood and gore, and more the lesbian undertones of the cut scenes.
is there anyway of getting this back or a refund?
x0xwolverinex0x said:
is there anyway of getting this back or a refund?
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As for as know there are no refunds. I was able to find a copy on a site that goes against xda's policy.
One article was stating the dev my be out of business not a marketplace issue.
Never played it anyone got the xap?
you can still download it in private market place if you have a full unlock rom

N64 Emulator gone from market?

It appears the n64 Emulator was pulled from the market. Anybody know why? flashed cm7 n26 last night and cant restore. market says requested item not found.
yup i flashed a new rom and tried to redownload it and couldnt find it. there goes 6 bucks.
xRepinsSporx said:
yup i flashed a new rom and tried to redownload it and couldnt find it. there goes 6 bucks.
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Yeah it's too bad that the Market is the only place to get apps, huh...
You can find the emulator on 4shared.com, who pays for apps anymore? Lol
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I emailed the dev and this was his response
A great number of users are complaining about the compatibility and running performance. Considering the bad ratings, I temporarily unpublished it. I am doing a rewrite of some of the core modules. Don't worry, N64oid will be back much better in 1-2 months.
Thanks for the understanding! I won't let people down
Ya people are retarded. Brand new app and they expect it to be flawless. Hate complainers. I actually did download I from a sharing site first but was impressed and decided to buy it. Plus 15 min refund window basicly makes it impossible to try it out. I never had problems with the app on my xoom of evo. I play it whenever I can at work
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wow dose that mean the people that bought it will receive the new version free? just sayin...
2nd that
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Ryjabo said:
Yeah it's too bad that the Market is the only place to get apps, huh...
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have you tried amazonappstore... there should be a app in the market place for that. if not try amazon.com
jonlee83 said:
have you tried amazonappstore... there should be a app in the market place for that. if not try amazon.com
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I don't think he was serious but the amazon app store is nice.
I don't blame him for doing this. People were all bent out of shape that it was $6 and he didn't have every rom working flawlessly. They rate bombed his app in the market.
The truth is that even if you only had 3 games working well, that should be worth your $6.
Oh well, now because everyone cried we can sit here with the app in it's current version, and wait 2 months for him to release a finished product instead of having something useable with updates all along the way.
Unrelated, but I just got a notice from google saying that one of my apps (a space invaders emulator) has been removed due to copyright infringement, even though it includes no roms.
I wonder why people complain about it about its sluggishness.
I mean, its not the developers fault that the people don't buy high-end phones.
They expect a 3D emulator to work on a 600mhz proccessor?
I mean, too many apps on ur phone also makes it slow.
Why bother leaving a low rating when its not the developers fault. The emulator runs flawlessly on the Evo, nexus s... (1 ghz+)
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jonlee83 said:
have you tried amazonappstore... there should be a app in the market place for that. if not try amazon.com
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I was being sarcastic.
koshinobi said:
You can find the emulator on 4shared.com, who pays for apps anymore? Lol
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Dude are you seriously that cheap! Android apps are most of the time a dollar maybe two. The ones that are more are usually well worth it. Six dollars for something that lets you play N64 games anywhere you go is cheap, and you know you didn't pay for any of the 1000 games you have to play for it. Plus With the huge number of free apps, paying a dollar for the one out of every twenty apps is crazy cheap.
Sorry for the rant, but stealing a android app is like stealing from a guy with a morgage and a family vs a movie is coming out of a mega corporations pocket. Most of the Developers in the market and on here make all this awesome stuff because they like too, with the added side effect of making money. Support the developers so they will keep make cool stuff!
Drewmungus said:
Dude are you seriously that cheap! Android apps are most of the time a dollar maybe two. The ones that are more are usually well worth it. Six dollars for something that lets you play N64 games anywhere you go is cheap, and you know you didn't pay for any of the 1000 games you have to play for it. Plus With the huge number of free apps, paying a dollar for the one out of every twenty apps is crazy cheap.
Sorry for the rant, but stealing a android app is like stealing from a guy with a morgage and a family vs a movie is coming out of a mega corporations pocket. Most of the Developers in the market and on here make all this awesome stuff because they like too, with the added side effect of making money. Support the developers so they will keep make cool stuff!
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I wouldn't even worry about that guy. He'll probably need the Android Market Security Tool eventually with that kind of attitude.
Please don't pirate these apps...it only demoralizes the devs that work hard to make profit from it. Stolen copies = less updates.
Overstew said:
Please don't pirate these apps...it only demoralizes the devs that work hard to make profit from it. Stolen copies = less updates.
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If they enter into the app development world, they've got to know/expect that people will pirate their apps. It's inevitable. If they get butthurt about it and stop updating their apps because of that, then they probably don't have what it takes to compete in this arena.
Having said that... I've paid for the apps that are on my phone.

Music beta, I just don't get google sometimes

http://www.neowin.net/news/googles-...ted?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Wow, wtf?!? That's all I can say.
//Tap'd on my TBolt while grounded\\
wow smfh this is not cool Google -___-
Music works just fine.
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had absolutely nothing to do with the music beta though...
If you are mad at google, you have no idea what is going on.
Totally unsurprising, and not unreasonable.
+1 to g00s3y.
This has NOTHING to do with the music beta...
I find it unreasonable. This was clearly done at the whim of the movie studios in the name of anti piracy measures. The reason I can be sure is the moronic logic. Anyone willing to pay in the first place wouldn't be the pirate type. Who is going to pay to watch it just to pirate it? They are making it so people who root their phones can't pay for the content. That leaves one way to view it, piracy. Also if you are smart enough to root a phone, you can certainly fire up a torrent. Shame on Google for bending over to the mpaa and movie studios. Can't say I care all that much though. The studios are shooting themselves in the foot. People will only take so much bull**** and keep dealing with it. If only they had even half a clue what consumers want.
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I mean...they're all businesses looking to make money. How would you feel if the product you guys worked hard on was being stolen and you weren't getting hard-earned money for it?
@darkroom. I agree with u. There is always get movies n music for free. Y screw those who may actually possibly want to save themselves the footwork and actually cough up the money to buy it..
That and in time a hack will be made to bypass the check for rooted devices. Google should know that already ... as they said themselves that as long as there is security in place there will be a procedure to bypass it...
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darkrom said:
I find it unreasonable.
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Then, you have the option of not paying for Google videos. That will show them. Isn't the free market great?
This was clearly done at the whim of the movie studios in the name of anti piracy measures.
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Your point being?
Who is going to pay to watch it just to pirate it?
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Of course you're right, because pirates always create their own content, they never start with something that was paid for (camcorder in a theater, unencrypting a DVD, etc.).
They are making it so people who root their phones can't pay for the content. That leaves one way to view it, piracy.
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Really? The only device you can watch video on is your phone? Almost everyone else has a range of choices - theater, DVD, Blu-ray, Netflix, TV, etc. Phones pretty much suck for watching movies, they have small screens and poor audio. The market continues to move toward large screen home theater systems. You don't know what you're missing.
I fear that Android's time as a fully-open platform is limited... If they want to play nice with the corporate world, doors are going to get shut on our faces. At least that's how I see it...
Yeah, lets say screw the law, google will just pay all the lawsuits that they get, no problem. Some of you are idiots.
whytecountry said:
I fear that Android's time as a fully-open platform is limited...
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Huh? Android was never "a fully open platform." The kernel (only) is licensed under the GPL, but most of the rest is licensed under Apache or similar, which has no requirement to provide source. Google makes everything fully available to hardware manufacturers only. That they've made most of it available to anyone is through their generosity, it's got nothing to do with being "open" in the FOSS sense.
What _is_ "open" is application development and distribution - no need to get the gardener to pot your plant inside the wall.
Don't like Google's terms for their forthcoming movie rental biz? Write your own app, and start your own competing one. Google hasn't done anything to stop you.
At the end of the day 10 dollars is too much for a movie. There are way more professions that should make that kinda money. Teachers and doctor's and people like that should be the paid people not the producer who gave input of a video. I'll pirate till they choose to reduce they product
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jalen156 said:
At the end of the day 10 dollars is too much for a movie. There are way more professions that should make that kinda money. Teachers and doctor's and people like that should be the paid people not the producer who gave input of a video. I'll pirate till they choose to reduce they product
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So, you rationalize your illegal actions, instead of just avoiding the product altogether. You're the problem, not the solution.
Good to see a few people see how reasonable this is. To Google consumers, developers and the 'big wigs' come first, not the tinkers and hackers. As others stated, Google is in the business of making money.
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mike.s said:
So, you rationalize your illegal actions, instead of just avoiding the product altogether. You're the problem, not the solution.
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Probably thinks $2.99 is too much for an app that he uses everyday too.
Berzerker7 said:
I mean...they're all businesses looking to make money. How would you feel if the product you guys worked hard on was being stolen and you weren't getting hard-earned money for it?
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Thanks man, I work in the film industry and never can seem to get the point across that its how i support my family. People seem to have the perspective today that well i don't have the money then they buy a case of beer or something and download a movie and its no big deal. Its just like software developers you need to support the community and I'm sure most do but I can't blame the studios for protecting their lively hood. Pirating moves does effect people. However I am a rooted user and still feel its to bad I can't buy movies on a rooted device as I would on a regular basis.

Why are apps like fpse bios are allowed to stay in the android market?

I just had to say this. I came across an app in the market called fpse bios witch is the file you need in order to run playstation emulators bassicly the developer charges people a dollar for the app and all it does is search the internet for a download link to the bios file. witch is something even the average Joe can do. And if that isn't inferiating enough the developer makes you rate the app before you can even use it. Also I want to point out that bios files arnt even technically legal to have unless you already own a playstation. I'm sorry but this kind of stuff really grinds my ears because the developer is ripping people off and not refunding there money or responding to emails. Sorry for the ranting and raving but what do y'all think of this should apps like these be allowed to stay in the market?.
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That sucks, but you can rate the app again anytime.
It's the same with people on Ebay selling instructions on how to do something which can easily be found for free through google.
Release a free app that does the same thing. Do humanity a favor.
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TheMavic said:
Release a free app that does the same thing. Do humanity a favor.
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This wins
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SOPA bill hearings - no opponents allowed

moving to canada as soon as i get the money and gas money.
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SCREW THIS GOVERNMENT.
All they're accomplishing by doing this is stirring even more public distrust and hatred towards the government.
You Americans always...You think your government are downright assholes?Come to Greece!The place where idiocy is considered a fundamental "trait" if someone wants to lead the country.
I'm so depressed now...
With the current nutjobs in the majority in the House I am not suprised. All they are about is tax cuts for the rich and de-regulate all big corporations and banks so they can rob us and poison us at the same time. It is just creeping fascism, but maybe the "creeping" is actually "running" now days. Couple that with the Roberts SCOTUS that says that corporations are people and money is speech (Citizen's united) and are allowed to buy elections, we are screwed.
Since the elite have already bought off the corporate "news" media, now they want the last bastion of free speech, the "internets".
This is really a secret conspiracy hatched by the VPN providers to force everyone to use their services or risk being thrown in jail.
Actually its Hollywood. The same people who tried to sue back in the 90's to ban mp3 players.
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The thing is also Google does have lobbyists in congress and Google is against it. Sony is too, and Microsoft Telecom hate it too
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Kiboe said:
The thing is also Google does have lobbyists in congress and Google is against it. Sony is too, and Microsoft Telecom hate it too
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As big as Hollywood companies are, Google, Sony, and Microsoft are a LOT bigger.
This bill won't pass, not with companies like this trying to stop it, because we all know who can pay the government more.
Wow , such corruption and bribery can never be tolerated in Singapore
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funny thing is even Google and other big online guys are against this SOPA bill
In another post, Tepp said that the U.S. Chamber of Commerce "will always stand" on the "side of American businesses"--an odd statement given that the list of businesses opposed to SOPA includes eBay, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, AOL, Zynga, and many other technology companies. (See CNET's FAQ and our previous coverage of security concerns.)
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well... ****. Am I the only one who saw internet censorship coming?
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**** like this makes me want to just throw away technology and move to a mountanous area in some third world country.
here's the link to sign the petition against this bs: http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/sopa_testimony/?akid=1018.606560.JTkqV4&rd=1&t=2
share it on facebook, twitter etc.. make your voices heard
tolis626 said:
You Americans always...You think your government are downright assholes?Come to Greece!The place where idiocy is considered a fundamental "trait" if someone wants to lead the country.
I'm so depressed now...
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Ahhh. greece.. it just as nice as i thought it would be.
I was lmfao when i saw this bill. This bill is going to drop harder than anything. Piracy actually helps sales. One friend pirates movie oh i saw that movie etc you should see it to.
If it does pass piracy is going to be hitting harder than it was before. Movies will be pirated while the scene is actually taking place. Behind the scenes all the time.
Sad thing is that these companies are legally allowed to bribe our elected officials through a process called lobbying.
Lobbying should be illegal.
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jordanishere said:
Sad thing is that these companies are legally allowed to bribe our elected officials through a process called lobbying.
Lobbying should be illegal.
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The problem is that the same people who could make lobbying illegal are the politicians getting the money! They are enjoying their payoffs way too much to make a law against getting free money from lobbyists

			
				
DaveC1964 said:
The problem is that the same people who could make lobbying illegal are the politicians getting the money! They are enjoying their payoffs way too much to make a law against getting free money from lobbyists
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It's a vicious cycle...
Too bad we can't really do anything about it.. Who doesn't want free money?
I wonder why "big pharma" would be against it. Canadian online drugstores making that big a dent in their profits or are they afraid of the free exchange of homeopathic remedies or is it (most likely) that the internet makes it easier for people who have suffered severe side effects from their overpriced medicines to find each other and start class action suits?
You can fight this and many other horrible bills that our bought congress creates at demandprogress.org. They organize many petitions against these bills.

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