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[INFO] Why we don't have ICS yet + more info about it

Hi, I have noticed a ton of people curious about why AT&T people do not have ICS yet, so I thought I would answer that once and for all. I admit that I and others have gotten a little mad whenever people ask about this, but it seems they are not able to really find a clear answer, so here it is.
If you feel like this is well done, please sticky it at least until we get it all figured out.
I figure this would be best said i a Q and A type form.
Q: What is ICS, and why does everyone want it so bad?
ICS or "Ice Cream Sandwich" is android version 4.0.x. the next version, 4.1 Jellybean was just released as a slightly less important update, but ICS brought huge changes from Ginger Bread (2.3.x) the previous phone version (3.x HoneyComb was tablet only). ICS brings a slicker, darker, and better looking user interface, as well as many performance enhancements. Most of us want it more because it seems like we should than because it is actually that much better. That said it is still a great update, and most people will be happy to see it.
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Q: Why is it so hard to get ICS for our phone, while others have it even though it is not officially out?
The main reason is our locked bootloader. That means it is not possible to flash or boot a custom kernel unless it is signed with Motorola's key. That is obviously impossible.
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Q: What is a kernel?
the kernel is a major part of any operating system. you can think of it as a sort of layer between hardware and software. It is the part of an OS that communicates directly with a device's hardware. Android is based off the open source Linux kernel, meaning it is free for anybody to build and modify. However, Motorola has only released the source for the ME865, and partially for the MB865, meaning we can't really build a kernel anyways. Then of course, even if we could build one, we wouldn't be able to boot it with our locked bootloader.
ICS is not really complete without the newer kernel that goes with it
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What is Kexec, and is there any way to unlock the bootloader
The fact that I grouped these together would probably lead you to correctly believe they are related. Lets start with the second half. Simply put, NO. I hate to say it, but there is very little hope of EVER unlocking our bootloader, unless Motorola decides to do something like HTC did and allow unlocking.
Kexec is a method of hot switching kernels while still booted. It is actually just a linux tool that you can use on a computer, but it has been built for android essentially allowing you to bypass the bootloader. Theoretically it would be an easy way to run custom kernels. Then why don't we? Well a few reasons. One, we can't really get one built to begin with, especially because, at least to my knowledge, jimbridgman is the only one who actually knows what he is doing with kernel building, and he is only half here now that he got his fany new SGS3. Two, it does not work great. I am not sure the latest version is working at all on our phone, and even if it did, only one processor comes up, meaning it is really slow.
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Q: What's the deal with these Droid 3 builds that supposedly boot?
Some people managed to build ICS for the droid 3 based of a 2.3.6 kernel. that means you can boot it on a stock GB kernel, and therefore you do not need to unlock the bootloader. Unfortunately that means it is not totally ICS, but it is still pretty good. Of course they are for a cdma phone, so that means no data, no calls, and no gps, making it kind of useless.
I am not going to give a link to them, but if you are really interested go search around. any of the Droid 3 AOKP and CM9 builds will boot just fine. Find more info in the dev section, but please don't start a thread asking about it.
We have been trying to port these to work for us, but that is proving more difficult than expected, and with ICS just around the corner, I don't want to put time into it. I do think it is possible, and if you are a dev looking to give it a shot, PM me and I will tell you all I know, and try to help out as much as I can.
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Great thread!
Thanks for putting this together!
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jimbridgman said:
Great thread!
Thanks for putting this together!
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thanks. I felt it was needed. let me know if I forgot to say something important.
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Perhaps this will hopefully curb some of the incessant "where's my ice cream sandwich" or "make me a rom based on ICS" threads here. Nice job, and as always, your work here is both highly appreciated and revered.
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Nice work kras, as always.
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Hell i thought this thread was going to give me info on why att hadn't released ics for us yet. Just kidding, good job. If this thread falls down the list ill bump it so maybe it will help some of the new people and we won't get any more new threads about ics.
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Apex_Strider said:
Perhaps this will hopefully curb some of the incessant "where's my ice cream sandwich" or "make me a rom based on ICS" threads here. Nice job, and as always, your work here is both highly appreciated and revered.
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No,Most likely once posts stop on this thread and it makes it to the second page we will see more questions im sure lol
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rdavisct said:
No,Most likely once posts stop on this thread and it makes it to the second page we will see more questions im sure lol
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that's why I asked for sticky
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The good news is that the "3rd quarter" is tomorrow! Which knowing motorola and AT&T, could mean whatever.
Take that with a grain of salt. Lol.
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Fall of Enosis said:
The good news is that the "3rd quarter" is tomorrow! Which knowing motorola and AT&T, could mean whatever.
Take that with a grain of salt. Lol.
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so is September
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Why don't we have a vanilla rom? Is it due again to the locked bootloader?
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gvsukids said:
Why don't we have a vanilla rom? Is it due again to the locked bootloader?
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yep. same thing. we have a hard time compiling any also source as you need a custom kernel
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Nice post..
Just one thing to inform about your last question's ans.. DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM.. without backups and sufficient knowledge and experience atleast.. some changes have to be made in the rom before flashing.. i am trying to find all the files we must replace to get them working on our phone.. and just a FYI for those of you that wanna try.. other than droid 3, bionic is our nearest relative.. so u can edit and try their roms as well.. i did kinda get cm9 of bionic after replacing some required files.. but it bootlooped.. and of course bionic is cdma.. so.. good luck..
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Ravikirancg said:
Nice post..
Just one thing to inform about your last question's ans.. DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM.. without backups and sufficient knowledge and experience atleast.. some changes have to be made in the rom before flashing.. i am trying to find all the files we must replace to get them working on our phone.. and just a FYI for those of you that wanna try.. other than droid 3, bionic is our nearest relative.. so u can edit and try their roms as well.. i did kinda get cm9 of bionic after replacing some required files.. but it bootlooped.. and of course bionic is cdma.. so.. good luck..
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You are not right. I can prove it. The latest droid 3 AOKP and Cm9 builds will boot just fine, with no radio

You should also add Why any other leak releases of atrix 2 ICS will not work on att atrix 2..... Sick of will this work on my att..... About to be like yea we all use it lol JK.....

Ravikirancg said:
DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM9
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Couldn't be more wrong....they both boot just fine and are pretty functional, the problem lies in getting the radio to work.

Ravikirancg said:
Nice post..
Just one thing to inform about your last question's ans.. DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM.. without backups and sufficient knowledge and experience atleast.. some changes have to be made in the rom before flashing.. i am trying to find all the files we must replace to get them working on our phone.. and just a FYI for those of you that wanna try.. other than droid 3, bionic is our nearest relative.. so u can edit and try their roms as well.. i did kinda get cm9 of bionic after replacing some required files.. but it bootlooped.. and of course bionic is cdma.. so.. good luck..
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Please I emplore you to do your proper research before making incorrect posts like this. I constantly see posts from those who think they know it all, and post idiotic things like this. Nothing makes me madder than someone who does not know how to use google and the search function.
It takes less than 2 min. to make sure you CYA before posting bad information.
Both CM9 and AOKP boot, but with no radio, as has already been said in several posts now. I have tested both.
P.S. most of us devs in here have been working on this very thing for sometime now, and I have not seen you jump in on any of threads discussing the files or how to port or anything.
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jimbridgman said:
Please I emplore you to do your proper research before making incorrect posts like this. I constantly see posts from those who think they know it all, and post idiotic things like this. Nothing makes me madder than someone who does not know how to use google and the search function.
It takes less than 2 min. to make sure you CYA before posting bad information.
Both CM9 and AOKP boot, but with no radio, as has already been said in several posts now. I have tested both.
P.S. most of us devs in here have been working on this very thing for sometime now, and I have not seen you jump in on any of threads discussing the files or how to port or anything.
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Agreed, They actually run extremely well, but obviously I can't stick with them with no radio.
P.S. this is my new best thought for porting, might take some extra build.prop work too. It did not boot for me, but I think we should be able to get it to. Then it is just a question of whether or not the radio will work. there is way more in build.prop on that than I would think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713
I think it may work because it really adds the cm9 stuff to our own files rather than add our files to it. maybe not the cleanest way, but it might just work.

hankbizzo5 said:
You should also add Why any other leak releases of atrix 2 ICS will not work on att atrix 2..... Sick of will this work on my att..... About to be like yea we all use it lol JK.....
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WOW, did I really forget to add that? that was kind of one of the main points of this post I'll fix it tomorrow (actually today, I guess it is after midnight), but I need some sleep.

lkrasner said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713
I think it may work because it really adds the cm9 stuff to our own files rather than add our files to it. maybe not the cleanest way, but it might just work.
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I have tried this method along with every idea that popped in my head of things to alter after following this guide. I have a highly modified build prop that AOKP boots with that I replaced with a lot of our build prop but there are still some things missing as no luck yet

[Q] can indian rom run on at&t phone

i had a question if searet roms (ota update)can run on at&t phones (since bullet rom was based on indian rom)
and if its true we can use the leaked searet rom here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758824
cause i have heard that indian roms are very well compatible with at&t phone
pls mods read it and try>>>>>>>>>>>>>>........................

:Search:
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actually i own international phone but if its possible then no need of droid rom ports
but devs can now prepare cwm from our very own ics~~

The answer is simple: no, no, and....no.
Also, search.

Why do posts like this keep popping up, this is the umpteen post about this same thing!
Please search before posting ANYTHING!!!!!
This phone has been out for over 10 months now, we have pretty much seen it all now, the answers to most questions are just a search away, and this one would have turned up more than 10 or so of this exact same thread.
Please remember the number one rule on XDA still applies:
DO A SEARCH FIRST!!!
Now to answer your question we would have already done that with one of the leaks if it was possible, but unfortunately it is not possible, I am sorry to say the hardware differences and the way the bootloader checks are, it will not even flash.

Extremely sorry but while reading post of first leaks some devs were saying they are waiting for the searet rom release :O
Anyways waste of time Dev pls delete the post
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Cyanogen mod????

Every other good phone has it...even the ones with locked BL like defy......
Come on guys..we have one of the best phones .....atrix 2 aint bull****...if not everything then maybe CM would atleast make most of us happy......be a team ..if not many then atleast one awsomely working CM ....i dont want samsung or htc....look at them ..brick bug or touch issues or battery backup........we have no issues except BL ......
And can someone tell me when kexec comes out.. usable for us.....
Im happy though with my A2

hemanbond said:
Every other good phone has it...even the ones with locked BL like defy......
Come on guys..we have one of the best phones .....atrix 2 aint bull****...if not everything then maybe CM would atleast make most of us happy......be a team ..if not many then atleast one awsomely working CM ....i dont want samsung or htc....look at them ..brick bug or touch issues or battery backup........we have no issues except BL ......
And can someone tell me when kexec comes out.. usable for us.....
Im happy though with my A2
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seriously?? can a mod just lock this before it explodes
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I dont know anything...but its a harsh truth that moto wont unlock bootloader..

Locked boot loader means NO CM7/9.
PERIOD.
Whatever the defy boys have is probably some half-arsed hacked port.
Please, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, search before you ask next time.
Here, I'll do it for you: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=will+cyanogenmod+work+on+a+locked+bootloader?+
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lkrasner said:
seriously?? can a mod just lock this before it explodes
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Agreed. I hope we don't start seeing a bunch of these, "Well this phone or that phone can have (whatever) so what's up with the ATRIX 2?"
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Hmmm

hemanbond said:
Every other good phone has it...even the ones with locked BL like defy......
Come on guys..we have one of the best phones .....atrix 2 aint bull****...if not everything then maybe CM would atleast make most of us happy......be a team ..if not many then atleast one awsomely working CM ....i dont want samsung or htc....look at them ..brick bug or touch issues or battery backup........we have no issues except BL ......
And can someone tell me when kexec comes out.. usable for us.....
Im happy though with my A2
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i know u r right...since i had defy with cm7 though its bootloader is unlocked ....but u cannot complain about it .....u bought the phone ...nobody forced u ......be happy with what u got nd devs can offer ...if u cant help....dnt expect to get help /......fair enough ,....not to be harsh ,its just as simple as that

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i know u r right...since i had defy with cm7 though its bootloader is unlocked ....but u cannot complain about it .....u bought the phone ...nobody forced u ......be happy with what u got nd devs can offer ...if u cant help....dnt expect to get help /......fair enough ,....not to be harsh ,its just as simple as that
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Or the OP could learn how to dev and try and compile CM9 for himself and see where he gets. Most of our devs did not start out as devs.

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Or the OP could learn how to dev and try and compile CM9 for himself and see where he gets. Most of our devs did not start out as devs.
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+1 to that A BIG ONE

This is getting to be a every day thing here and i personally am running out of patience because of people not taking five minutes to read up on their already answered questions. I propose that we start ignoring these type of posts from now on. That to me is the best solution.
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tmease1 said:
This is getting to be a every day thing here and i personally am running out of patience because of people not taking five minutes to read up on their already answered questions. I propose that we start ignoring these type of posts from now on. That to me is the best solution.
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+1
Agreed.
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@OP yea good attitude now go do RnD for yourself, you cant search sh!t in first place and you dare to order other respected people ? Just cut your [email protected] and stop posting useless threads.

+1 tmease. I concur.
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BOOMSHAKALAKAAAAA!
(That's this thread exploding :-D )
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Not a bad idea. I came from defy.
They basically run cm7/9 with an existing signed moto kernel.
Myself, am interested in porting the 2nd init from defy. Really hope I can do it.
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lukensteinz said:
Not a bad idea. I came from defy.
They basically run cm7/9 with an existing signed moto kernel.
Myself, am interested in porting the 2nd init from defy. Really hope I can do it.
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Do a search... we already have done something similar, it is slow, and not worth it, since we don't have space on the internal storage to put the 2nd ROM, so it MUST go on the SDcard.
It was abandoned due to the fact that it was so slow it was unusable. Besides there are many of us that have been working to get CM7 and CM9 working from a port without success.... but you are more than welcome to jump in and lend a hand, we have a post in the dev section about it for aokp and CM9.

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Do a search... we already have done something similar, it is slow, and not worth it, since we don't have space on the internal storage to put the 2nd ROM, so it MUST go on the SDcard.
It was abandoned due to the fact that it was so slow it was unusable. Besides there are many of us that have been working to get CM7 and CM9 working from a port without success.... but you are more than welcome to jump in and lend a hand, we have a post in the dev section about it for aokp and CM9.
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Do you mean as in a multi boot?
The Defy I had, I flashed a defy+ sbf too then plonked cm9 on, no 2nd rom/boot or such.
My understanding was that the purpose of 2nd init was to hijack the init process and allow to boot into boot manager.
I'm also guessing bootmanager would need to be built from source to suit the A2?
I've read a few of your posts mate, worked with Linus? Legend.
You will by far know more than I do these days, but I'll see what I can do to help.
First I'll deodex the ics leak I'm running and make a Cwm backup to upload. Not sure how useful it will be due to the kernel.
The U.S, Europe and Asia hardware is all different?
The one last thing I remember from defy was I had to use at&t baseband since telecom nz uses the same carrier frequency.
And ran the defy+ rom on old red lense ddfy without a single issue at defy+ stock clock freq
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lukensteinz said:
Do you mean as in a multi boot?
The Defy I had, I flashed a defy+ sbf too then plonked cm9 on, no 2nd rom/boot or such.
My understanding was that the purpose of 2nd init was to hijack the init process and allow to boot into boot manager.
I'm also guessing bootmanager would need to be built from source to suit the A2?
I've read a few of your posts mate, worked with Linus? Legend.
You will by far know more than I do these days, but I'll see what I can do to help.
First I'll deodex the ics leak I'm running and make a Cwm backup to upload. Not sure how useful it will be due to the kernel.
The U.S, Europe and Asia hardware is all different?
The one last thing I remember from defy was I had to use at&t baseband since telecom nz uses the same carrier frequency.
And ran the defy+ rom on old red lense ddfy without a single issue at defy+ stock clock freq
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Yeah we used a util called safestrap that another dev and I patched to make it work on this phone that was originally from hashcode.
It allowed us to boot another ROM on say our SDcard, but again it still has to use our kernel due to the bootloader issue...
The only way around the bootloader as of now is by using kexec, and that only works with 1 CPU and can only load a "stock based" unsigned kernel, so the CM stuff is out.
We are working to get CM9 and or AOKP booting from a port on our phone using the stock GB kernel. There is a post on it in the dev section.
Yeah Linus is a Friend, a great guy and I can't say enough good things about him. I have not seen him since the last Linux world / Opensource world now as it is called.
Yeah you should jump in and join the frey, we can always use more help in here.

Well it wasn't hard to work out how to get a 2nd init style boot. (As in, blue light, press vol down, gets bootmenu)
Except bootmenu is garbled screen. I need to test more, and probably mod some of the scripts.
Heres a system nandroid of ICS http://www.4shared.com/archive/bp3qzA9o/Atrix2-ICS-NANDROID__672112asi.html
Dunno how much use it will be since I didn't get the kernel.

Got it.... thanks

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Hey guys..
Well it's simple really..
just analysing if you will
Well now that the official jellybean ROM has been leaked, do any of you think(or have fingers crossed) that it would compel Moto to issue an update?
That's it.. Tell me what you think?

ashindnile said:
Hey guys..
Well it's simple really..
just analysing if you will
Well now that the official jellybean ROM has been leaked, do any of you think(or have fingers crossed) that it would compel Moto to issue an update?
That's it.. Tell me what you think?
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I would say no.. They (moto) want more ppl to buy RAZR.. And att long ago eol'd this phone in US.. Its all politics and marketing.. The only reason that leak came out was because a2 seems quite popular in China and some guys are close to(relatives?) high level executives.. That's why it got leaked.
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No but they will issue A rebate to Us owners..... Also questions belong in Q&A..... To correct things the leak came from cheesecake.....

hankbizzo5 said:
No but they will issue A rebate to Us owners..... Also questions belong in Q&A..... To correct things the leak came from cheesecake.....
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okay
But the US rebate- does that take 100$ off on the phone''s price on contract? then it makes sense.. otherwise, who''d want to trade it in for such a low price?
and yes, I thought of posting it in Q&A but this is rather general don''t you think?
And by cheesecake you mean?
And also, why is it not possible for devs to make their own sbf's? Is it because moto doesn''t allow Bootloader unlock?

dude.. lol relatives XD

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And by cheesecake you mean?
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hankbizzo5 said:
No but they will issue A rebate to Us owners..... Also questions belong in Q&A..... To correct things the leak came from cheesecake.....
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By leak came from cheesecake, if you are talking about the jb fxz files that Wang posted, then no it cannot be from cheesecake.. you can only get update zip from cheesecake as far as I know.. but the leak that was posted were fxz files.
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This is entirely tangential, but is it possible to create an fxz from a working phone? Something like imagex/dism for Windows? How does Moto put the fxz file together?
I'm interested in any and all development links, searching the forums for info on fxz mainly only turned up walkthroughs for how to apply them...

jakzel said:
This is entirely tangential, but is it possible to create an fxz from a working phone? Something like imagex/dism for Windows? How does Moto put the fxz file together?
I'm interested in any and all development links, searching the forums for info on fxz mainly only turned up walkthroughs for how to apply them...
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To the best of my knowledge, You build fxz images from source code.. When you compile, you can give option to what format the output will be..
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how can I tell which leak I'm on? And if 2.. What are options..scv7 supercharged..:(

I have acquired a Motorola Atrix 2 from a best friend of mine. I have been following XDA for years thank you for all the help with my optimus v. I do not know how to tell which leak I have I apologize but I have looked at the threads until my eyes have I apologize but I have looked at the threads until my eyes have bled and then looked again and I still see so much conflicting information I do not know what to do or think anymore. I want to know if I am running scvc 7 ICS supercharged.. If I can go to another rom. I hope I find out I have one of the phones that I can go back to Gingerbread. My friend is clueless he has no answers for me. again I a I'm not exactly a noob but . I owe is much is i know so far to you all so thank you in advance

Xanafuego said:
I have acquired a Motorola Atrix 2 from a best friend of mine. I have been following XDA for years thank you for all the help with my optimus v. I do not know how to tell which leak I have I apologize but I have looked at the threads until my eyes have I apologize but I have looked at the threads until my eyes have bled and then looked again and I still see so much conflicting information I do not know what to do or think anymore. I want to know if I am running scvc 7 ICS supercharged.. If I can go to another rom. I hope I find out I have one of the phones that I can go back to Gingerbread. My friend is clueless he has no answers for me. again I a I'm not exactly a noob but . I owe is much is i know so far to you all so thank you in advance
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Post a screenshot of your about phone screen. If the kernel build has a mid july build date, then it is leak 1 and you can go back to GB using my script in the dev section.
Otherwise you can only run ICS based ROMs (yes you can run any ROM that is ICS based, just not GB based ones).
If you have issues it is easy to use the ICS FXZ, as we did not have that yet when leak one and two were out. Hence the issues and bricks. You MUST know which version of the phone though (ATT, Asian, or HK) To properly use an FXZ, or you have a chance to brick.

Had to break out my optimus v, and I would like to personally thank you for responding so quick. I expected to get really beat up I have been following you all for years and I know how it is horrible to be redundant here. Well my new friend it looks like I am on week 2. I do not know what to do where I should go from here but I will tell you what more stable even stock would be better even if it is a ICS leak. I don't know why they call it a leak if it came over the air does that mean AT&T in Motorola send out experimental software? the fact that I'm posting speaks to the power that this phone is an anomaly. Through the years I have never once had to post. All of my hard questions have been answered by you all in advance.
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jimbridgman said:
Post a screenshot of your about phone screen. If the kernel build has a mid july build date, then it is leak 1 and you can go back to GB using my script in the dev section.
Otherwise you can only run ICS based ROMs (yes you can run any ROM that is ICS based, just not GB based ones).
If you have issues it is easy to use the ICS FXZ, as we did not have that yet when leak one and two were out. Hence the issues and bricks. You MUST know which version of the phone though (ATT, Asian, or HK) To properly use an FXZ, or you have a chance to brick.
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thank you, does this tell you that I'm on the second leak? I don't know where to look to find out how to install a permanent recovery.. I suppose I'll have to use boostrap.. scary concept....
and FXZ..New one to me. I'll search the threads more for that.. unless you want to throw new some more hints. my girlfriend and I, are so grateful
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Think that's official. It's same as I have, and i fxz'd to official 4.0.4.
Going back to gingerbread is worthless. It'd be like going from Windows 7 back to xp.
We don't use bootstrap anymore, and If you have I'd fxz to stock, root it, and then install boot menu manager, or BMM. then can flash the newer stuff.
But be aware the what your on and Numa are the only fully functional and stable ones we have.
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MotoMudder77 said:
Think that's official. It's same as I have, and i fxz'd to official 4.0.4.
Going back to gingerbread is worthless. It'd be like going from Windows 7 back to xp.
We don't use bootstrap anymore, and If you have I'd fxz to stock, root it, and then install boot menu manager, or BMM. then can flash the newer stuff.
But be aware the what your on and Numa are the only fully functional and stable ones we have.
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Hey thanks man. We bought this from my best friend actually it was a gift. It is on leak two I believe according to Jim and also it came with SCV7. It is already rooted. I am just confused as to the next step to do how to FXZ ..it is AT&T phone. I am scared to death I will brick this ! And the scary thing is I have rooted been custom ROMs and recoveries on many different phones for friends and coworkers but I have never encountered anything like this Motorola Edison
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Xanafuego said:
Hey thanks man. We bought this from my best friend actually it was a gift. It is on leak two I believe according to Jim and also it came with SCV7. It is already rooted. I am just confused as to the next step to do how to FXZ ..it is AT&T phone. I am scared to death I will brick this ! And the scary thing is I have rooted been custom ROMs and recoveries on many different phones for friends and coworkers but I have never encountered anything like this Motorola Edison
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At&t FXZ is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961310
Don't know what to do with it? Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909319
Want root? The root batch file jimbrigman posted here is (IMO) the most reliable method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28934153
All you'll need from that last link should be the root file. Be sure to read all the available instructions/information provided a few times until you are comfortable with what you're doing and you'll be OK. :thumbup:
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At&t FXZ is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961310
Don't know what to do with it? Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909319
Want root? The root batch file jimbrigman posted here is (IMO) the most reliable method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28934153
All you'll need from that last link should be the root file. Be sure to read all the available instructions/information provided a few times until you are comfortable with what you're doing and you'll be OK. :thumbup:
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wow that is incredible. And there is a lot of love in this place. I appreciate that. My next move is to borrow my friends laptop as mine has died and get started hopefully this weekend. I will report the results. Did I say you guys were awesome? Voice love this place and I cannot wait to start my classes, I'm going to study Linux and computer technology at the local community college here. And from there who knows. Anyways thank you to you all and many like you for the inspiration I cannot wait to get my girls phone working 100 percent again.. Now to focus on the other problem I will try to read the thread and then I'll post later the screen seems possessed like it touches on its own I don't know if its a digitizer or a program problem because it seems to come and go at different times of the month. Very bizarre. Anyways thank you any tips are appreciated and I will keep you informed on this little project, and I'm going to start Searching the threads hoping I have the answer to someone else's question :thumbup:
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