Guys my samsung charger is broken. I asked in a shop for new charger but its very costly. So temperory I am using nokia charger of my another nokia phone by using a usb charger connector at one end (usb connector having price only 10 Rs).
But when I saw carefully I come to know that samsung charger & nokia charger have following output
Samsung charger
Voltage - 5v DC
Current - 700 mA
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Nokia charger
Voltage - 5v DC
Current - 890 mA
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You can see that current in nokia charger is somewhat higher. Is there any side effect of this on our battery??? I observed that battery gets charged more faster with nokia charger.
vishal24387 said:
Guys my samsung charger is broken. I asked in a shop for new charger but its very costly. So temperory I am using nokia charger of my another nokia phone by using a usb charger connector at one end (usb connector having price only 10 Rs).
But when I saw carefully I come to know that samsung charger & nokia charger have following output
You can see that current in nokia charger is somewhat higher. Is there any side effect of this on our battery??? I observed that battery gets charged more faster with nokia charger.
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If I'm not mistaken, the current on chargers is usually the maximum supported current. Your phone effectively "pulls" as much current as it wants/needs. So I don't believe it'll do any harm. Just be careful with the voltage!!
Cheers.
It's probably okay. I sometimes use my 1A rated charger. It may be a good idea to not use it while charging if the phone is heating up. You can also just plugin to your USB port although it will be a bit slower at only 500 mA charging current.
Guys my samsung charger is broken. I asked in a shop for new charger but its very costly. So temperory I am using nokia charger of my another nokia phone by using a usb charger connector at one end (usb connector having price only 10 Rs).<br />
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But when I saw carefully I come to know that samsung charger & nokia charger have following output<br />
Samsung charger<br />
Voltage - 5v DC<br />
Current - 700 mA
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Nokia charger<br />
Voltage - 5v DC<br />
Current - 890 mA
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You can see that current in nokia charger is somewhat higher. Is there any side effect of this on our battery??? I observed that battery gets charged more faster with nokia charger.
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@vishal: no issues.
According to some huge conference back in 2009-10, almost all major mobile companies decided to use the same usb connector for all of their mobiles, with same specification for voltage output.
The voltage input differs from country to country, while the wattage and current specification can be varied as per company whims (due to cost variance and battery specification).
So all Nokia, HTC, blackberry, Motorola, Samsung etc use the same USB connector.
I've used my chargers for HTC sensation and Samsung galaxy sl interchangeably for quite a long time now(around 4 months now) and no difference/side effects observed. No difference in backup hours, just the time to charge the battery varies with current specification when I charge with HTC as, it is 1000mA.
A friend of mine having Samsung galaxy s, had used his blackberry charger for charging. No issues. (he started using it before me)
I will surely provide the link of the same info asap.
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iAmBalvinder, you must be referring to this:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-10165603-78.html
If adapter using USB to MicroUSB cable, there's nothing wrong with it since USB's voltage and current values are universal. Your charge time decreased because Nokia charger's current is higher than our charger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus
there are no side effects as stated in other posts. i too am having a damaged samsung i9003 charger and its is too costly to buy. right now i am using my previous' phone charger (sony) for quite some time. no signs of anything up to this point =)
iAmBalvinder is right;
mine is
5v DC and 1A (1000mA) and it is not even phone charger
it is kodak camera charger.
To quote wikipedia, on the USB page.
"The cellular phone carrier group, Open Mobile Terminal Platform (OMTP) in 2007 have endorsed Micro-USB as the standard connector for data and power on mobile devices.[33] These include various types of battery chargers, allowing Micro-USB to be the single external cable link needed by some devices.
As of 30 January 2009 Micro-USB has been accepted and is being used by almost all cell phone manufacturers as the standard charging port (including Hewlett-Packard, HTC, LG, Motorola, Nokia, Research In Motion, Samsung, Sony Ericsson) in most of the world.[citation needed]
On 29 June 2009, following a request from the European Commission and in close co-operation with the Commission services, major producers of mobile phones have agreed in a Memorandum of Understanding ("MoU") to harmonise chargers for data-enabled mobile phones sold in the European Union. Industry commits to provide charger compatibility on the basis of the Micro-USB connector. Consumers will be able to purchase mobile phones without a charger, thus logically reducing their cost.[34] Following a mandate from the European Commission, the European Standardisation Bodies CEN-CENELEC and ETSI have now made available the harmonised standards needed for the manufacture of data-enabled mobile phones compatible with the new common External Power Supply (EPS) based on micro-USB.l
Please refer to the wiki page for proper extreme links.
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iAmBalvinder, you must be referring to this:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-10165603-78.html
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Yeah, this is the news post before the conference actually took place.
Please see detailed links if needed, on the wikipedia page(refer USB)
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Hi guys,
since the charger of the iPhone has an USB connector, my question is if I can use that charger for the Nexus One too??
Since it supplies actually the same energy level (both can get energy from a PC USB instead), does this mean that also the charger delivers current with good specifications for the N1?
thanx in advance
exelero
How are you going to plug the iPhone 30 pin in to a micro USB? Maybe I'm not understanding you correctly.
to plug the microUSB-to-USB cable of the Nexus One into the USB socket of the iPhone charger.
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How are you going to plug the iPhone 30 pin in to a micro USB? Maybe I'm not understanding you correctly.
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I think (s)he means the mains adapter part with the USB socket in it - in which case yes it will work, you just need the right cable - which came with your N1
Looking forward to when all manufacturers standardised on micro usb, for a while I thought that mini usb was micro, so I was surprised to see that the n1 was different then I found out....
ok, now i see. Not enough coffee yet,lol
scote said:
in which case yes it will work
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yeah, from the connection part, I know it will work. my question was more related if the iPhone charger delivers the appropriate current (tension/amperage) conditions for the N1 and, let's say, it won't burn the N1 due to a too high voltage, or mess up the battery due to an incorrect tension input.
I was just having a conversation on chargers with a friend of mine the other day and googled around on the subject on amperage/current/Ma of chargers..
I stumbled upon these posts (either here on XDA, Androidforums or other forums):
1. "The current rating on a voltage source is the maximum amount that the power
source can deliver without exceeding its saftey rating.
What this means is that if you are using some device that has a power supply
with a current rating of 500mA then its best not to use a different power
supply(at the same votlage rating) with a lower max current rating. i.e.,
anything < 500mA. Now ofcourse you might be able to get away with it but if
it burns down your house then its your fault.
A device will only pull the amount of current that it uses(assuming it is a
voltage controlled device) and this is true regardless of the current
rating(hence the saftey issues I discussed above). If a device
says(sometimes they don't) it uses 500mA then it uses 500mA. Maybe it
doesn't use 500mA all the time but the engineers have put that rating there
for a reason. Using any power supply with the right voltage and a current
rating of anything more than what the device uses is ok because the device
will only pull the current it uses.
Now, about the voltage rating: The voltage rating does not have to be exact
and different devices can tolerate different voltage ratings. The problem
usually is one of current. By increasing the voltage, say, you increase the
current the device uses and then you have changed the parameters that the
device was created with."
2. "And as far plugging your phone into a charger that outputs well over 850mA, don't worry about that either. Unlike voltage, the more amperage the merrier because the device will only take what it needs of the available resources."
3. "Moral of the story. Match the Voltage (5.1Volts) Meet or Exceed the 850mA rating. (which is .850 Amps) and you'll be fine."
4. "amps are not pushed but drawn
amps is the max the charger can provide
before it get pressured and lover the volts
you could use a 5volt 10000MegaAmp charger
and the device would only draw the amps the device
was made to draw all the rest of the amps would stay
at your electricity company
ohms law state Amps == volts / residence"
5. "amps are not pushed but drawn
ohms law state Amps == volts / residence
In other English:
P = VI, where
P = Power of device (watts) and is fixed
V = Voltage used by device (volts) and is fixed
I = Current (amps) and is decided by P/V (a fixed ratio)
So the device cannot draw more current than the fixed ratio. It may draw less current if the charger cannot supply the highest amount, but then as in one of the above posts, it simply takes longer to recharge.
With these devices, milliWatts/miliAmps are the scale, 5V is generally the fixed Potential Difference.
Used in a vehicle, the device is generally both drawing and expending energy (ie. charging and running say, GPS) simultaneously. This in/out situation when prolonged is the cause of the observed overheating with the original X1 battery."
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Bottom line... Make sure the voltage is 5V, the amperage doesn't really matter.
thanx for your feedback.
both chargers have the same output (5V, 1A) - so I am already successfully using it.
blackberry storm also has micro-usb
hello two chargers and an extra usb-cable
To answer the OP's question...
yes it works fine. I have one in my car and charge my ipod and nexus at the same time without issue. The advanced zune car adapter also works (in case one of the 5 who own a zune are reading this ).
I have been using my old Iphone white plug -> USB adapter for almost a month now and I haven't had any issues.
I tried using the iPhone charger but it charges slow...it does not quick charge. Am I doing something wrong?
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I tried using the iPhone charger but it charges slow...it does not quick charge. Am I doing something wrong?
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no. If i'm up to date, and i think i am, you'll only get the 'fast charge' if you use the charger that came with your phone. the usb to usb micro chargers all charge slow
Can i use X10 mini charger (5v DC 850mA output) on nexus one by the things i read i understand that i can't but my english is not very good. Thanks
if youre talking about using the iphone usb cable on your n1, HAHAAHHAAHAHAHAH
if you mean using the usb-to-AC adaptor then yea you can use any usb cable to charge anything pretty much..
Hi
I'm intersted in buying this adapter because I already have a Nokia car charger and I'm not intersted in buying another LG car charger (I'm using the Nokia one too and I don't like having two chargers in the car); my question is: will it work? And will I be able to use this adapter to charge my LG with a Nokia AC charger?
Hi 22VIN
I think that adapter is compatible. I seen it work on nokia e52 and E5. Also i used the original E52 charger on optimus one and it worked just fine. Cheers!
You can buy almost any car charger, but, in order to have fast charging (in LG, Nokia, Samsung, etc.) the specs for the car charger states that the data pins are linked.
Something that isn't required on apple products. So take notice.
I have bought a car charger for iphone, but, only after linking the data pins with some soldering it started fast charging my phone.
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Fenix_999 said:
You can buy almost any car charger, but, in order to have fast charging (in LG, Nokia, Samsung, etc.) the specs for the car charger states that the data pins are linked.
Something that isn't required on apple products. So take notice.
I have bought a car charger for iphone, but, only after linking the data pins with some soldering it started fast charging my phone.
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Don't do that...trust me it works without any linking...probably you will damage your port. Iphone has a proprietary port unlike OO which has standard microUSB. So any certified charger will do just fine.
Obviously I disagree.
You can read the technical documents (MoU regarding Harmonisation of a Charging Capability for Mobile Phones, google it), look more carefully to the section7.
"The EPS shall short the D+ and D- lines with a resistance not greater
than 200 ohms."
Said this, I also believe that if you buy a proper certified device it is the perfect option, unfortunately I see a lot more product choice for iphone then other brands.
For instance, I first realized about the short when I bought a PowerBolt™ Duo Car Charger from Kensington, I said to myself, great!! 2.1 A and another 1A USB plug, I will be able to charge anything.
But when I first connected it to my phone, it was charging alright!!, but Slow charging, only after some investigation I found why, the PowerBolt didn't had the Data pins linked together, and the phone limited the power drain.
using original LG charger with a Nokia or HTC micro-USB cable, the display indicates "charging" but the battery percentage doesn't increase...why?
Does it say Charging (USB) or Charging (AC)
You can find this if on Definitions->About Phone->Phone State
I was out of the country recently and could NOT get to a charging source. So i was wondering what if i had one of these in my backpack? Would it be safe for my phone or would it mess it up because of the charging output?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123#ht_2692wt_1202
Since our ac charger output is at 5v 1a or 1000ma....
Its weird this charger output is 5.5v. Most I've seen are 5v output.
My friend had one from another brand with 5v output no problems.
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TopazUser1 said:
I was out of the country recently and could NOT get to a charging source. So i was wondering what if i had one of these in my backpack? Would it be safe for my phone or would it mess it up because of the charging output?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123#ht_2692wt_1202
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If it were me....
I wouldn't use that charger if it is pumping out 5.5v. The batteries in the phones are LiPo batteries which need to be charged in a very specific manner. If they are over charge or under charged it can and will do permanent damage. And if the OE charger is 5V i wouldn't risk it.
Don't go cheap when you consider solar/power pack options. You need to consider the power output of the stock usb charger and try to stay as close to those numbers as possible.
I've had a solar panel setup from Brunton for several years and it's excellent quality and provides the power needed via a car cigarette lighter outlet. 6 watts is the lowest output rating I would go (500mA @ 12V). I bought my first one for $106 when the Dell Axim x50v was a new product and even bought a 2nd one (last one moontrail had for $89.95) for my emergency survival pack. Excellent camping/hiking accessory I wouldn't be caught without, especially with power-hungry GPS devices.
Here's a link to what I use: http://www.moontrail.com/brunton-solaris-6.php
I've tried several rechargeable battery packs and had to return them because the only pack I've found that would charge my phones more than once was purchased several years ago, from PPCTechs.com. It cost me $60 (from what I can remember) and is rated @ 4400mAH and charges it at least 3 imes. They don't carry the product anymore...
When it comes to solar power, you're going to have to pay a little more money for reliable products...
I tried to charge my A700 with a HTC USB charger, but it didn't work. Can anybody confirm that the A700 only can be charged with the original Charger and not with any micro USB cable?
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schm1dt said:
I tried to charge my A700 with a HTC USB charger, but it didn't work. Can anybody confirm that the A700 only can be charged with the original Charger and not with any micro USB cable?
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I tried several ones and none worked.
Thanks for confirming, that's really bad news.
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But this was well known befor the device was available. This is necessary because of the huge power pack.
The original charger can provide 12V and 1,5 A. The USB specification is only 5V and 500 mA.
Did you try to charge the HTC with the acer charger ? you cannont plug it ! they added a pin
Out of couriosity,
in this preview they tell us it would charge on USB???
http://youtu.be/Zy736u97xJA
Not good News at all, im lucky i did not preordered this device, its a no go for me...
Can anyone try to charge over USB while the device is turned off, maybe this works?
Greetz Tokl
Tokl said:
Can anyone try to charge over USB while the device is turned off, maybe this works?l
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No, it doesn't take any power from regular USB pins.
One has the choice: big power pack or loading by USB. I prefer the running time of this device.
Edit: Loading via USB would take over 24 houres for sure.
Now I found also 12V/1.5A on the right side of the housing of the A700. OK so USB is not for charging.
Did someone already find a car charger I couldn'd find at Amazon. (or should we discuss that in the other thread?)
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schm1dt said:
Did someone already find a car charger
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Not yet, I think third party suppliers just need a bit more time.
I have a different experience to your's.
I've tested USB charging with two different USB-chargers. One from Nokia (5V, 1200mA) and one from Samsung (genuine SGS2 charger). Both charge the A700 in stand by mode with about 4% per hour and up to 100% battery capacity. The android battery info does not say "charging" but it does!
When the A700 is switched on my 5V chargers are to weak to charge it.
Shudushi said:
I have a different experience to your's.
I've tested USB charging with two different USB-chargers. One from Nokia (5V, 1200mA) and one from Samsung (genuine SGS2 charger). Both charge the A700 in stand by mode with about 4% per hour and up to 100% battery capacity. The android battery info does not say "charging" but it does!
When the A700 is switched on my 5V chargers are to weak to charge it.
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Nice info, but i guess the charging led is off too ?
Shudushi said:
I have a different experience to your's.
I've tested USB charging with two different USB-chargers. One from Nokia (5V, 1200mA) and one from Samsung (genuine SGS2 charger). Both charge the A700 in stand by mode with about 4% per hour and up to 100% battery capacity. The android battery info does not say "charging" but it does!
When the A700 is switched on my 5V chargers are to weak to charge it.
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Confirmed
I charged my A700 with my HTC USB charger (HTC TC E250) in standby mode this night. It charged from 23% to 64% in about 10 hours. There was nothing at the A700 that showed it is charging.
To be honest, 4% per hour is "nearly not charging".
schm1dt said:
Confirmed
I charged my A700 with my HTC USB charger (HTC TC E250) in standby mode this night. It charged from 23% to 64% in about 10 hours. There was nothing at the A700 that showed it is charging.
To be honest, 4% per hour is "nearly not charging".
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This is known as trickle charge. The device might charge if the micro USB provides enought mili amps AND the device does not need much power when connected (i.e. screen off).
I really doubt that the device will charge on USB when the screen is on, but on the other hand the device will definitly discharge slower when connected to USB.
I have a small calculation to explain things:
The original charger operates with 12V at 1.5 Amps = 18 Watts (which is not USB compatible so they hat to change the jack to ensure it will not be pluged in to a normal USB device and damage it)
If you would like to have the same Power over USB with its 5V max voltage you would need at least 3,6 Amps. Now that is far to much for those little pins on the micro USB jack and the currency would damage the pins when pluggin in and out.
USB standard specification normally is 500mA = 0,5 Amps ( -> 2,5 Watts in comparison with 3,6 Amps 18Watts)
So I think Acer has done a quite nice compromise.
Hope that clarifies matters a bit.
ninjaw said:
Nice info, but i guess the charging led is off too ?
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Confirmed, no charging LED with standard 5V charger. Orange LED while charging only with original 12V charger.
mearoth said:
This is known as trickle charge. The device might charge if the micro USB provides enought mili amps AND the device does not need much power when connected (i.e. screen off).
I really doubt that the device will charge on USB when the screen is on, but on the other hand the device will definitly discharge slower when connected to USB.
I have a small calculation to explain things:
The original charger operates with 12V at 1.5 Amps = 18 Watts (which is not USB compatible so they hat to change the jack to ensure it will not be pluged in to a normal USB device and damage it)
If you would like to have the same Power over USB with its 5V max voltage you would need at least 3,6 Amps. Now that is far to much for those little pins on the micro USB jack and the currency would damage the pins when pluggin in and out.
USB standard specification normally is 500mA = 0,5 Amps ( -> 2,5 Watts in comparison with 3,6 Amps 18Watts)
So I think Acer has done a quite nice compromise.
Hope that clarifies matters a bit.
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Thanks M8,
this cleares things.
Still waiting for the 3G/4G Device here in Germany
Greetz Tokl
On the A510, when charging the battery via USB, the icon does not indicate it.
That must be the same on the A700.
DЯΦ[email protected]П said:
But this was well known befor the device was available. This is necessary because of the huge power pack.
The original charger can provide 12V and 1,5 A. The USB specification is only 5V and 500 mA.
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Since USB 2.0 version :
"Several changes and increasing limits including allowing 1.5A on charging ports for unconfigured devices, allowing High Speed communication while having a current up to 1.5A and allowing a maximum current of 5A"
Source : wikipedia.org
Fortunately we are not limited to 500mAh, otherwise we could not quickly recharge our current smartphones .
There are some USB/AC adapters available that put out 2A of juice instead of the typical 1A. For those in the US, check out www.monoprice.com -> they're my go-to source for inexpensive spare cables & such.
It seems that finding a cheaper charger for the A700 isn't a simple task. I had to wade through a lot of cross references with some unintentioned misinformation. First thing was the model number. It's the A510 that is most like the A700 not the A500. Though the A500 does share some similarities it's not the closest match.
When I look for any type of charger, I make sure that the output voltage is correct and the amperage requirements are correct. Looking at the A700's charger, the manufacturer managed to squeeze a lot of info onto it. Amperage is what I always try to find. That is the total amount of current it can handle and deliver to the device connected to it. The A700's charger can handle 1.5 amps. So, the A700 sucks up a quantity of 1.5 amperes of electrons in order for the battery to fill up to it's capacity. That is the load the tablet's battery presents to the charger. Make sure that the charger bought for the A700/A510 can handle at least 1.5 amperes or the wall wart will be OVERLOADED. This is where the charger begins to overheat, smoking warning signals may start coming from the plug and your're asked for a donation for the local voluteer fire department. Besides the voltage which is 12 volts dc, load current requirement is the most important value I make sure is correct for saftey's sake. It is alright to get a charger that has a higher amperage rating but the voltage must be the same, 12vdc for the A700. It just means the charger can handle a larger load.
The only adapter I could find was the original Acer product, mainly because of the unique USB dual purpose connector interface. There is a little diagram of the pinout for the plug on the charger. Using a magnifing glass, I could barely make out the pins the +/-12vdc are attached. Pin P1 is +12vdc and pin P12 is -12vdc. It looks almost beyond a humans capabilities to make or solder together a short plug interface conversion cable in order to use other 12vdc/1.5 A chargers.
I've read in the forums some uncertainty about the proper specs for a replacement charger for the A700, that's why I wrote this post. Maybe , this will help clearup some of the confusion and not add to it. I've also noted a lot of chatter about using a USB cable with the micro USB plug to charge the A700 tablet. Apparently, USB charging can be acheived but it is very slow ( 24 hours or more ) and the amber/white power LED does not indicate the tablet is charging or has finished charging.
If anyone has more info about the A700 charger please reply or post....
Thanks All...
Hi All!
I know that it could be difficult for you to check this Polish site but you can find there a charger that I am going to buy. It has some changeble plugs - also micro usb.
link:
tridex.pl/ramka4.php?menu=towar1&symbol=9396
I think all what you have to do is to look for this kind of a charger - MW3R15GS, btw you can see this name on the original one...
Best regards
Gregork
Acer A701
Save your money and your A701. This thing has only a standard micro-usb plug-in. Check the connector of your Acer charger ... look really close and for better comparison hold a micro-usb-connector from a standard cable next to it. The connector from Acer is longer .. why? because the first row of pins that you can see are not the same ones that fit in a micro-usb-jack. Look deeper into the connector from Acer and you will see a second row of pins.
So if you use this charger with the adapter from that site and set a higer voltage you might fry the usb from your tablet. Sorry to disapoint you but better now than later with a broken tablet.
My moto g (1st gen) is about to arrive but I don't know how to charge it yet. I heard it takes long to charge in PC and I need a wall adapter for charging on the go anyways. Original brand ones are really expensive and I want to avoid that cost if possible. So is it safe to use a generic (most likely without any brand) wall adapter? For example one that says 100-240VAC, 50-60 Hz Output 5.0VDC 1.2mah. If not, what should I take into account when looking for a charger?
Thanks in advance.
It's not necessary to use original moto charger but it's recommended you can use any other chargers for charging With appropriate Voltage values...
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All USB chargers have a regulated output voltage of 5 volts DC, and all of them are compatible with any device that charges via a USB/mini/micro port.
The difference is the maximum charging current, which generally ranges from a low of 300 milliamps to a high of 2 amps. More current will fill up the battery faster, as long as the charging control circuit on the device will accept more power. Regular USB ports like the ones on your computer are specified to put out a maximum of 500 milliamps current, so most device charging circuits will detect when they are on a computer USB port and limit their current drain to 500 milliamps to avoid triggering a "port overload" shutdown on the computer.
Devices with big batteries (like tablets) will take a long time to charge with a low-capacity charger, so you generally want to use a higher-capacity 2 amp charger with those to cut the charging time. Phones are generally somewhere in the middle - they'll charge in a reasonable time with a 1 amp charger, but they might benefit from using a 2 amp charger. You can still charge them using a low-capacity charger or a computer USB port, but you may need to shut the device off while charging if it consumes more battery power in normal operation than the charger can pump into it. And it might take a very long time (like 24 hours) to charge a big battery from a small charger.
jbanti said:
It's not necessary to use original moto charger but it's recommended you can use any other chargers for charging With appropriate Voltage values...
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DJames1 said:
All USB chargers have a regulated output voltage of 5 volts DC, and all of them are compatible with any device that charges via a USB/mini/micro port.
The difference is the maximum charging current, which generally ranges from a low of 300 milliamps to a high of 2 amps. More current will fill up the battery faster, as long as the charging control circuit on the device will accept more power. Regular USB ports like the ones on your computer are specified to put out a maximum of 500 milliamps current, so most device charging circuits will detect when they are on a computer USB port and limit their current drain to 500 milliamps to avoid triggering a "port overload" shutdown on the computer.
Devices with big batteries (like tablets) will take a long time to charge with a low-capacity charger, so you generally want to use a higher-capacity 2 amp charger with those to cut the charging time. Phones are generally somewhere in the middle - they'll charge in a reasonable time with a 1 amp charger, but they might benefit from using a 2 amp charger. You can still charge them using a low-capacity charger or a computer USB port, but you may need to shut the device off while charging if it consumes more battery power in normal operation than the charger can pump into it. And it might take a very long time (like 24 hours) to charge a big battery from a small charger.
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Yes I'm aware of all this. The thing is I purchased it from Amazon and it doesn't come with a charger. That's why I need to purchase one. I know it works without problems with samsung, htc, blackberry, etc chargers but I don't know if it works -without problems and risks- with a generic charger. By generic I mean those chinese cheap ones that "imitate" original ones. So are those safe? Thanks again.
There's generally no problem with an inexpensive generic charger, but cheap junk is cheap junk. If it costs $1.99, and the connections are poorly soldered, the components are under-specified, and the construction quality is generally shoddy, then sure it can easily break, overheat, or go up in smoke. It could even conceivably damage your connected device. Just use some common sense in evaluating when something is too cheap.
I just got a samsung charger which seems to be for the note 2.. My worry is that I'm not entirely sure if it's original (even though build quality seems good) or not because of many reasons: a) I just noticed the model on the box (eta0u10ebecstd) is different than what is printed on the charger (eta-u90ewe) , including amperage listed (0.7a on box, 2a on charger) even though the box had the security seal b) I google'd about the model in the charger and I only saw it with the european plug presentation, didn't see a single american plug of that model (and I have the american plug). c) there seems to be 2 "presentations" with different printings (what varies is the location of the certification logos mainly and 1 extra certification for each "model" the other one doesn't have)
So my question is simple: Let's suppose the charger is not original, can it damage my phone? Thanks again.
xzifi said:
I just got a samsung charger which seems to be for the note 2.. My worry is that I'm not entirely sure if it's original (even though build quality seems good) or not because of many reasons: a) I just noticed the model on the box (eta0u10ebecstd) is different than what is printed on the charger (eta-u90ewe) , including amperage listed (0.7a on box, 2a on charger) even though the box had the security seal b) I google'd about the model in the charger and I only saw it with the european plug presentation, didn't see a single american plug of that model (and I have the american plug). c) there seems to be 2 "presentations" with different printings (what varies is the location of the certification logos mainly and 1 extra certification for each "model" the other one doesn't have)
So my question is simple: Let's suppose the charger is not original, can it damage my phone? Thanks again.
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If it is not Genuine avoide using as much as you can.
Using a genuine Samsung with Motorola or any charger made by real maunfacturer (Nokia, Samsung, LG, HTC.... etc) with any other phone is ok
but a duplicate charger is always a risk, because you never know what has been compromised.
Alright, I'll get a genuine one asap. Any tips to differentiate between an oem or duplicate charger?
"Genuine" is not a word that applies to USB chargers. Perhaps you mean "same brand as my phone", or "recognized brand name". That's one way to be sure you're getting acceptable quality. But you'll save some money if you just use common sense in evaluating the price and quality of what you're buying. There's nothing wrong with most generic USB chargers, and there's certainly no problem using a different brand-name USB charger with your phone.
DJames1 said:
"Genuine" is not a word that applies to USB chargers. Perhaps you mean "same brand as my phone", or "recognized brand name". That's one way to be sure you're getting acceptable quality. But you'll save some money if you just use common sense in evaluating the price and quality of what you're buying. There's nothing wrong with most generic USB chargers, and there's certainly no problem using a different brand-name USB charger with your phone.
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What I meant is fake copies of brand chargers. It's basically impossible to differentiate between a copy and an oem, isn't it?
xzifi said:
What I meant is fake copies of brand chargers. It's basically impossible to differentiate between a copy and an oem, isn't it?
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There are ways to differentiate then, but you need to measure the output under load and see if there is noise and ripple with an oscilloscope, which is not in everyone's possibilities.
Best way to get a genuine charger for cheap is to buy it from a friend who has it from some old phone. Or just look for brands like Nokia, Sony, Hama, Belkin, Energizer etc in some trusted sellers like Amazon or big local hypermarket.
liveroy said:
There are ways to differentiate then, but you need to measure the output under load and see if there is noise and ripple with an oscilloscope, which is not in everyone's possibilities.
Best way to get a genuine charger for cheap is to buy it from a friend who has it from some old phone. Or just look for brands like Nokia, Sony, Hama, Belkin, Energizer etc in some trusted sellers like Amazon or big local hypermarket.
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Ok so I found 3 chargers on Amazon that seem to have good reviews but I don't know much about brands so I hope you can help me to choose (can't post links). Which brand is more reputable in chargers? New trent, anker or powergen? Thanks
xzifi said:
Ok so I found 3 chargers on Amazon that seem to have good reviews but I don't know much about brands so I hope you can help me to choose (can't post links). Which brand is more reputable in chargers? New trent, anker or powergen? Thanks
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Powergen afaik are making high-power output chargers.You'd be fine with one of theirs, their quality is airtight and the prices are good.