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Does anyone know of a good car charger will not effect the battery of the phone or does rapid charging? Is there one with a voltage regulator so its like charging from a wall outlet?
Also I was thinking about getting a AC car adapter, and just plug in my wall charger that came with the G2.
What do you guys think?
Look on Amazon for a Motorola micro USB charger. It's like $1.50 with free shipping. They accidentally sent me two of them. Works just fine.
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I actually use my original G1 charger with a Mini USB -> Micro USB adapter that I bought for $1 shipped from hong kong on eBay, I ordered 5 of them for $5 and they sent me 10 of them on accident... I'm not complaining, now I can use all of my old mini USB cables for the PC as well
I've been looking for car chargers that output 1A.
So far have seen the belkin charger usb port/no cable $10 ebay and radioshack 1.2A corded charger $28.
I can't for the life of me find it sold separately anywhere, but the car charger that came with the N1 car dock works great. Even HTC doesn't have it on their site (that I can find). All they have now is USB car chargers to use with the data cable.
I am new so I can't link to it... but if you go to slickdeals dot net then on the front page there is a deal for the Motorola P513 rapid rate charger on Amazon.
I just jumped on this. Lots of good reviews from incredible, evo, and n1 owners even when using navigation. And it's $5.
smthkat789 said:
I've been looking for car chargers that output 1A.
So far have seen the belkin charger usb port/no cable $10 ebay and radioshack 1.2A corded charger $28.
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If you have a frys electronics near you pick up one of these http://www.frys.com/product/5865763 or order online. Works great is outputs 1A. I refused to pay T-mobile 29.99 for a charger.
has anyone got one on ebay the cheap ones (are they good or keep away from them).
if no good what ones are good
I'm also on the market for a good car charger that will not screw up my phone. Came close to buying the cheapos on Ebay but like the previous poster didn't pull the trigger since I was worried one of those might damage my phone. Any recommendations would be appreciated (or feel free to second the ones that are already listed). It's definitely a necessity since I'll be using this as my primary GPS from now on in my car.
Tell us more about these car chargers that ruin batteries.
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HTC-Vision-G2-Newb said:
I'm also on the market for a good car charger that will not screw up my phone. Came close to buying the cheapos on Ebay but like the previous poster didn't pull the trigger since I was worried one of those might damage my phone. Any recommendations would be appreciated (or feel free to second the ones that are already listed). It's definitely a necessity since I'll be using this as my primary GPS from now on in my car.
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just received this http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...moFilter=1&sort=sip&me=&seller=&condition=all in retail package. dont buy unless from amazon. I heared some seller like OEM shop doesnt send you in retail packaging.
from slickdeals http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=593823&t=2300969
funkeee said:
Tell us more about these car chargers that ruin batteries.
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Yes, as I am searching for one, would like to know wich ones not to buy!
I got the HTC CC C300, definitely not cheap, but has 2 usb ports whit 1A in both of em, and looks sleek.
Includes one micro usb cable, only power, doesn't work as data cable.
carlosdionisio said:
Yes, as I am searching for one, would like to know wich ones not to buy!
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Pay attention to how many amps the charger supplies. The OEM wall charger puts out 1A (1000 ma). It charges at a pretty good clip up to about 90%, to get the battery 'full' will take some extra time...
I bought this Motorola Charger, as mentioned earlier in this thread, and it was worked very well for me. It is rated to put out 950 ma, so just short of the wall charger.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000S5Q9CA
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Pay attention to how many amps the charger supplies. The OEM wall charger puts out 1A (1000 ma). It charges at a pretty good clip up to about 90%, to get the battery 'full' will take some extra time...
I bought this Motorola Charger, as mentioned earlier in this thread, and it was worked very well for me. It is rated to put out 950 ma, so just short of the wall charger.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000S5Q9CA
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Just so people know, the highest charging current I have ever seen my G2 take is about 771 mA. This data was taken with Battery Monitor Widget. So I don't think it makes any difference if the charger provides 800 mA or 1.0 A.
I got a full kit of an unopened Belkin chargers for iPod/iPhone for 6 bucks at a goodwill and used the car-usb charger and a micro-usb data cable to charge my phone. The charger is really reliable. I've been using it for my G1 for one year and G2 for half a year and there was never any drop in batter performance.
I always thought the cables didn't matter that much, but the charger is the key to ruining the battery.
As to the amps and voltage: On the back of my battery it's labelled 3.7V 1300mA, and on the phone it's 5V 1A. I doubt it's those 1 buck charger is really gonna have a good grip on those values.
I've been very happy with the Dexim dual-USB charger. It plugs into the 12V socket and can output 2 amps (or 1 amp on both ports simultaneously). I bought the iPhone version for the special cable. Other smartphones can use any regular mini or micro USB cable. Great for charging up two devices at once, and it can provide enough current for devices like the iPad.
http://www.dexim.net/us/products/car/DCA154.html
I see they have a version that will kick out 3.1A (!), although I don't think the DZ will take more than about 650-700 mA anyway. It would be nice if someone tweaked the phone's USB firmware or driver to accept a higher current...
This is interesting guys, look at this one.
Do you think it is worth it? Will it damage smartphone?
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This is interesting guys, look at this one.
Do you think it is worth it? Will it damage smartphone?
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I don`t think you would be able to crank it long or hard enough to do any damage. My HTC hero and now my Desire S both require quite high power to charge properly so I would be surprised if it was possible to get any useful charge into a modern smartphone with a hand generator.
I have tried several of the (cheap)emergency chargers that run on AA alkaline or rechargeable batteries and none so far have been able to deliver more than a 20-30% charge before the voltage or current drops too low to continue.
The best solution I have tried for time away from the mains so far is a New Trent 5000mAH rechargeable battery pack from Amazon. They also do an 11000mAH version. These have 500mA and 1A USB outputs and claim to be able to charge an Ipad. My 5000mA one will do roughly 2 full charges plus a top up which is useful for a weekend away from mains power.
The price is however MUCH higher.
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basill said:
The best solution I have tried for time away from the mains so far is a New Trent 5000mAH rechargeable battery pack from Amazon. They also do an 11000mAH version. These have 500mA and 1A USB outputs and claim to be able to charge an Ipad. My 5000mA one will do roughly 2 full charges plus a top up which is useful for a weekend away from mains power.
The price is however MUCH higher.
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I don't see HTC Desire S being compatible with it.
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I don't see HTC Desire S being compatible with it.[/QUOTE
The outputs are standard full sized USB with a choice of current output so you can use the supplied cables or the USB cable supplied with your phone. HTC Android handsets are listed generally on that page and my own recommendation was intended to indicate the device works as advertised with the desire S
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Im using Powermonkey classic v2
2200mAh battery
1A output.
Huge accessories packed with pouch.
But, my Desire S charges only to 78%
https://powertraveller.com/iwantsome/primatepower/powermonkeyclassicV2/
A Good Charger from Ebay
I have a charger that can fully charge the Desire S battery, costs about 10$ on ebay, so far the phone battery is still at 100% for a few hours with normal everyday usage, i find it good enough for me.
The charging rate is about 300mA and not 500 or 800 as published.
It would be wise to buy a micro usb female to micro usb male extender cable.
The charger:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1500mAh-Mic...628988?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2a1017e97c
The extender:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320744819753
Check out porporta charger
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=4662&t_mode=des
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=5287&t_mode=des
I lost my wall charger that came with my HP touchpad. The round plug thingie is what I'm looking for. Searching on Amazon brings up a number of items, for example:
http://www.amazon.com/HP-North-American-Charger-TouchPad/dp/B0055QYJJM/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_3
However, is there an alternative that works? I was able to use the Evo cable rather than the original HP sync/charge cable that came with the wall charger, but is there an alternative wall plug that works as well? Paying almost $28 for a charging cable seems a bit ridiculous.
Any help and advice would be most appreciated.
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I found that Walmart was having a sale on the North American charger with the barrel wall connector for $11.99 and Meritline was having a sale for 6' long USB to micro-usb cables (pair for $4.99 no tax/shipping).
The listing on the Meritline page says that the cables are compatible with the Evo.
Given that the cable that comes with the HP barrel charger is pretty much monkey spit and fails within a month, I found a solution that works for less than $20.
Links are below:
Walmart HP Touchpad charger
http://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-TouchPad-Accessory-Travel-AC-Wall-Adapter-Charger/16641536
Meritline Cables (use this code MLCK222YNL1 for discount (cannot guarantee how long this code is good for, drops the price for a twin pack of the 6' cables from $10.99 to $4.99)
http://www.meritline.com/showproduc...e=6-feet-high-speed-micro-hdmi-cable-ethernet
Pretty much any USB charger will work, but most give a notification on the Touchpad screen indicating that they may not be charging. This is because the official charger is at the high end of both voltage and current capability. I charge from laptop, desktop and a variety of Blackberry chargers with no issue, but the available current will determine how long it takes to charge and whether it charges much while the screen is on. Go for a USB charger that gives you 2 Amps and you should be fine.
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Pretty much any USB charger will work, but most give a notification on the Touchpad screen indicating that they may not be charging. This is because the official charger is at the high end of both voltage and current capability. I charge from laptop, desktop and a variety of Blackberry chargers with no issue, but the available current will determine how long it takes to charge and whether it charges much while the screen is on. Go for a USB charger that gives you 2 Amps and you should be fine.
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Thank you for the advice. To be more specific, can you recommend any alternative charging cables/wall charger units specifically?
Any brand name USB charger that gives off 2 amps should be fine. I tend to stay away from really cheap generic chargers. Any microUSB cable should be fine even a generic one if it has decent reviews. I worry about generic chargers since a poorly regulated one could send a voltage too high, but generic cables should be fine.
The chargers I am currently using, as well as the one that came with the TP, are the one that came with a Blackberry Playbook and the one from my HTC Desire HD.
The Blackberry charger gives an error on the screen that it may not charge the TP, but as it gives 2 amps, charges in pretty much the same time as the official unit.
The HTC again gives the warning and takes about twice as long to charge.
what about the nook color charger i know it higher amps might work as well
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what about the nook color charger i know it higher amps might work as well
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I just tested the TP with a charger for the NC, and unfortunately, it still gives the same "may not charge" warning...
There is NO after market charger that will charge at full rate like the HP barrel charger!
At best they will trickle charge at a much lower rate and take considerably longer to charge.
The TP relies on precise signaling which it will only get from the OEM item or specially modded after market units or cables.
Do a google for further info ie webosnation.com forums.
I think your looking for a 5.1v charger, aka rapid charger. This is used by the iPad, and some android phones like the Motorola droid 3, razr and htc rezound.
I could be wrong though,I haven't gotten my touchpad yet.but I do own all said device above (except the razr) and they all use the faster charging technology.
Sent from my rezound.
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I think your looking for a 5.1v charger, aka rapid charger. This is used by the iPad, and some android phones like the Motorola droid 3, razr and htc rezound.
I could be wrong though,I haven't gotten my touchpad yet.but I do own all said device above (except the razr) and they all use the faster charging technology.
Sent from my rezound.
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They will not work at full rate!
No one else uses 5.2 volts
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Don't believe all the hype about using ONLY the HP charger, there are many that do the job perfectly well. Too many people make these authoritarian statements and all they do is cause FUD.
At my office, I use the AC charger from my last Samsung phone (mythic) and it works IDENTICALLY to the OEM one. I have also used a Moto and and LG with NO PROBLEMS. I have no issues getting to fully charged in little time.
At home, my OEM cable is plugged into a high-power USB port (2.1A, I believe) and it has no problem charging from near zero to full as well. Front or top-mounted USB ports tend to be 500mA or less, but the rear ones (coming directly off the motherboard) tend to have a higher supply. I also use a non-HP USB cable occasionally and it works fine.
(I got my TP during the original fire-sale and have been charging it these ways ever since with ZERO ISSUES.)
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No one else uses 5.2 volts
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2
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The small voltage difference is marginal and isn't going to matter, the internal hardware should be able to tolerate a few tenths of a volt difference. In fact, I tested my Motorola charger rated at 5.1v and the Touchpad charger rated at 5.2v on a multimeter. The Motorola charger was outputting 5.20v and the Touchpad charger 5.16v. Granted this is at no load, but switching transformers are regulated so they should supply rated voltage at any current draw equal to or less than rated. Also depending on how well the voltage is regulated there may still be a slight AC ripple that the device has to deal with.
Does anyone know the time difference between using the TP charger and a standard droid/blackberry charger? Also curious if the charges last the same. I know theoretically they should since the battery is full either way, but electricals can be tricksiy..
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Does anyone know the time difference between using the TP charger and a standard droid/blackberry charger? Also curious if the charges last the same. I know theoretically they should since the battery is full either way, but electricals can be tricksiy..
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Its all down to the charge rate that the TP is able to draw.
2A which is theoretically possible from TP AC barrel charger would charge the 6A+ battery of the TP from flat to full in approximately 6.5 hours.
If the BB charger were able to have 500mA drawn by the TP then it would fully charge in approximately 26 hours.
The charges would be no different.
To convert any regular USB charger into a TouchPad charger you need to add 2 resistors as per the diagram attached.
The presence of the resistors will trigger the TouchPad to draw the full 2A from the charger rather than the trickle charge it does when they are not there.
Please do not modify a cheap charger that is only rated for 500mA as you will most likely overheat it and it could present a fire risk.
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To convert any regular USB charger into a TouchPad charger you need to add 2 resistors as per the diagram attached.
The presence of the resistors will trigger the TouchPad to draw the full 2A from the charger rather than the trickle charge it does when they are not there.
Please do not modify a cheap charger that is only rated for 500mA as you will most likely overheat it and it could present a fire risk.
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Just pointing out that you need to start with a charger that is rated at least 2Ah to start with.
You can't turn a low rated one into a high rated one.
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Just pointing out that you need to start with a charger that is rated at least 2Ah to start with.
You can't turn a low rated one into a high rated one.
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oh, for the love of gods. REALLY? I was just asking for a replacement cable. I don't want to reinvent the charging paradigm. I just need a simple recommendation for a cable. If a thread could be highjacked any further I don't know how it could be.
I appreciate all your "advice" but seriously, this is NOT what I was asking.
Anyone know if I can get a similar cable in the UK? Kind of lost my TP cable, and I miss the flexibility the long cable gave me, it was so much easier to use on charge!
well i know that my tbolt cable works. i have to use the tp adapter though. my tbolt adapter makes the touchpad say that the charger is incompatible.
I bought a brand-new Nexus 5 a few weeks ago. However it came with a 0.85A wall charger which is LG branded... and some 'generic' cable that was included too. Used it twice, but it took around 8-10 hours just to charge 80% of it. I plugged my old Galaxy Ace USB cable to the LG charger and it reduced to two and a half hours, same with my alternate charger from the aforementioned phone (5.0V + 0.7A).
But this led me to a question: Is using alternate chargers with < 1.2A of output a risky way to charge my Nexus 5 battery? I saw somewhere that it might even damage the circuit board (a rare case) and I'm a bit worried about it.
Using a charger with a lower amperage output will take longer for the phone to charge. Also, using a cheaper cable will also lengthen the charge time as the cable can pass the full amount of power to the phone. This has been my experience with using oem cables vs dolls store cables me chargers.
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Using a charger with a lower amperage output will take longer for the phone to charge. Also, using a cheaper cable will also lengthen the charge time as the cable can pass the full amount of power to the phone. This has been my experience with using oem cables vs dolls store cables me chargers.
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But... Will a Samsung wall charger with 0.7A of output damage my phone if I use it as my main charger? Because I also have a chinaphone which came with a bad charger and the Samsung one works fine.
No, the Samsung charger @ 0.7A will not damage the phone. I use a 1.0 A and 2.0 A Samsung charger with my N5 and it has been fine for months and months.
With the Samsung 0.7A charger, battery gets charged in 2:10 hours. I still don't understand it since I came from a low-end Samsung device which could complete its charge in about three hours (and that one had a 1500mAh battery...)
This is a tricky question, no doubt about it.
IMO, the cable quality is way more important than the current output (0.7 A, 0.85 A, etc).
I have a Samsung S4 charger with its cable (it seems very well built and it's thicker than other cables) and my N5 goes from 10% to fully charged in less than 3 hours.
Funny facts - happened to me:
- I had a very cheap cable (probably from China) that came with a battery bank. Surprisingly, it was the fastest way to charge my phone - reached almost 2.0 A. Later I found the trick: this cable doesn't have all the four wires, it only had two (positive and negative, without the data wires). I believe the data wires is used to perform some kind of amperage control; without it, no control was done and led to a very fast (probably dangerous) charging. I don't use this cable anymore, chances are that this nasty cable screwed up my notebook battery
- My N5 is almost two years old. Recently I had a problem with the Power button, the internal contact of the switch on the board was stuck 'pressed' and this led my phone to an endlessly force-reboot. I discovered this behavior after some google search and one of the possible causes of it is exactly the usage of a non-default / faster charger, it said that this could melt something - SOURCE
It makes sense, but I can't confirm this. I was able to fix this by smashing the phone on a table a few times (lol) and I'm still using a non-default charger
Can anyone confirm / say something about these facts?
For those who wants to see the diference between cables and chargers, give this app a try:
Play Store - Ampere
This app is a current meter, I use it on a regular basis and it is pretty reliable - the dev it's a XDA member and this app can be discussed here
Hope this helps!
You can not harm a phone with a 5 volt charger. The phone takes the amps it needs. More is better than less. I use 2 amp, 5 volt ones. As has been said the usb cable is the key thing. The better quality the better charge.
As I'm sure is the case for many of you, I have a ton of typical USB chargers around the house, which supply anywhere from 0.8A to 1.5A output. Going with the assumption that I don't care how long it takes to charge, is there any risk with using the USB C-A cable that came with my pixel and plugging into any of those old USB chargers? They should all work, right? Just as different speeds depending on the output current?
I am not an expert, but from my research into the safety of USB-A to USB-C cables, the "risk" will generally come as a result of purchasing a cheap cable that does not have the appropriate (56k) resistor. The cable that came directly from google has the appropriate resistor and is not low quality, so it will be safe to plug into any functioning USB port (either on your computer or a charger).
That being said, if you have a malfunctioning charger, or there is power surge etc., that is an "act of god" and what happens happens
You may actually be better off using these old chargers if they work correctly. The slower you charge your phone, the better it is for the longevity (years) of your battery.
Yeah, that is why I didn't care about charging speed. For plugging it in next to my bed each night, I figure slower is better. However, I just received a mini USB to USB C from Amazon, and used that to plug my pixel in last night to a 1a charger. And while the phone did say charging over USB, it didn't gain any battery overnight and instead continued to discharge until I woke up in the morning. Is anyone else seeing anything like that?
Not trying to be mean or name call but I personally think you all are crazy. Buying a $700 phone and using a cheap charger that could have the risk to break your phone. Especially if you know better. Honestly, spending the $30-$40 from a charger from Google or an approved charger is just smart for the long term and not risk losing $700. Just my 2 cents. I did the same for the car charger.
Sure, I hear your point. But honestly I know that it is better for the battery to charge slower, so I would rather use a low power charger next to my bed each night, and only use the included quick charger when I need a quick top-off.
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Sure, I hear your point. But honestly I know that it is better for the battery to charge slower, so I would rather use a low power charger next to my bed each night, and only use the included quick charger when I need a quick top-off.
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Have to consider 2 points since there are so many inaccuracies about this subject:
1) Inadequate chargers with insufficient output cause batteries to become overheated, consequently reduce battery charging cycles. Smart batteries are not adversely affected by certified quick chargers.
2) Turbo chargers do not "top off". When a battery gets to around 80%, the appropriate charger begins its slower charging as to not overload it. Once at 100%, charging stops, and the maintenance process begins. As battery level drops to around 97.6%, trickle charging begins.
In sum, a certified, OEM-equivalent quick charger, even with higher output would not damage batteries.
The phone supports most standards however usb c and Qualcomm quick charge are not compatible and you fall back to 5v 3 amp at best. Make sure to fully insert the cable into the phone. It has to click. I've accidently not charged overnight that way.
I've got a bunch of turbo chargers that I've accumulated over the years. Using a non-[manufacturer of current phone] charger has never damaged my phone. I just bought a 10 pack of USB C adapters and popped one on every charger so I can continue using my old ones. No issues yet and I don't anticipate any.
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I've got a bunch of turbo chargers that I've accumulated over the years. Using a non-[manufacturer of current phone] charger has never damaged my phone. I just bought a 10 pack of USB C adapters and popped one on every charger so I can continue using my old ones. No issues yet and I don't anticipate any.
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Sure, you can use non-oem chargers. That's not the problem. Issues only potentially arise when the chargers do not provide adequate output, or their "smart" capabilities are not up to specs. I use all kinds of chargers bought at Verizon, Best Buy, etc. I also use Amazon chargers as long as they're not too far off OEM requirements. Also, people don't think about the importance of a good, thick cable.
I have a ton of Samsung fast chargers and Samsung USB a to c cables . Would those be safe?
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I have a ton of Samsung fast chargers and Samsung USB a to c cables . Would those be safe?
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Many will say no big deal. However, I'd say let's hear it from the horse's mouth. Here's Google engineer Benson Leung https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/cEvVQLXhyRX. You be the judge.
Bottom line, to answer your question, no, quick charging methodology used by Samsung and Motorola is not supported by the Pixel. Your phone will charge at a slower rate. Will it damage the phone in the long run? Likely not. Well, I'll let you guys test for me.