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[Q] I Unlocked Bootloader Using Official HTC Tool - Now What?

Ok so I unlocked with the Official HTC Bootloader unlock tool. I have been trying to find the answer to my question of what else needs to be done before I can Rom the thing. I have been reading and everyone just seems to be arguing whether or not you need S-OFF in order to put a rom on the phone.
So please... Someone give me a straight answer. What else Do i need to do before I can load a custom rom on the phone. I went through tall of the official unlock stuff and its unlocked. Now what?!?!

First you need CWM. Then just flash the zip of your ROM
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

Thanks man for the response. Thats what i thought needed to happen but wasnt sure. Off to rom I go!

Still having trouble
Well i went to the dev section and tried to follow the steps to installing CWM and I'm getting an error. Im thinking I might need to do the HBOOT steps too. Im going to try that next. I just dont want to break my 3 day old phone.... ya know.

You can't install CWM or any other ROM if you enabled s-off with the HTC dev tool. You can only do it if you use revolutionary.

RonnyT24 said:
Well i went to the dev section and tried to follow the steps to installing CWM and I'm getting an error. Im thinking I might need to do the HBOOT steps too. Im going to try that next. I just dont want to break my 3 day old phone.... ya know.
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almostinsane said:
You can't install CWM or any other ROM if you enabled s-off with the HTC dev tool. You can only do it if you use revolutionary.
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With the Sensation this is no reason not to use revolutionary and get true S-OFF.
But if you want to continue down the HTC Unlocked path, you may want to visit the Evo 3G forum. There are some excellent threads and discussion on how to get into ClockworkMod using the HBOOT method. For some of the folks over in Evo 3G land, the latest HBOOT that was released for their HTC Unlock OTA has rendered Revolutionary useless because it disabled the root exploit, so they have no choice.
But if I were you, go with Revolutionary for permanent S-OFF/Nand unlock.

[Q] Root for apps, not new ROM

Hi folks,
I have read a number of guides and threads on the forum but I can't work out if any apply to what I want to do. I'm sure the info may be there but its not clear to me.
Basically I want root on my Desire S so that I can use aps like LUKS Manager, Orbot and so on. I don't want to install a new ROM as I'm happy with my what I have at the moment.
My hboot is 2.00.0002 and my Radio is 3822.10.08.04_M
Is what I want to do possible? If not and I have to install a new ROM is it possible to find one that matches what I have at the moment? How do I identitfy what that is?
Thanks in advance for all the help!

wageslave said:
Hi folks,
I have read a number of guides and threads on the forum but I can't work out if any apply to what I want to do. I'm sure the info may be there but its not clear to me.
Basically I want root on my Desire S so that I can use aps like LUKS Manager, Orbot and so on. I don't want to install a new ROM as I'm happy with my what I have at the moment.
My hboot is 2.00.0002 and my Radio is 3822.10.08.04_M
Is what I want to do possible? If not and I have to install a new ROM is it possible to find one that matches what I have at the moment? How do I identitfy what that is?
Thanks in advance for all the help!
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everything is possible. Just follow the guides in this forum how to root your device (I recommend not to use htcdev). You don't have to install a new ROM.
But my personal opinion is to use a custom ROM, since they often have much more possibilities for customizing and a lot modifications for speed and performance. Are you still using stock ROM with sense 3.0 ?
Sent from my Desire S using XDA App

Hi, thanks for the reply. I've only accepted the updates provded by my network so I guess thats the stock ROM?
Yep, its HTC Sense 3
I must be missing something basic because from all the guides i've read you have to install a new ROm to keep root?

wageslave said:
Hi, thanks for the reply. I've only accepted the updates provded by my network so I guess thats the stock ROM?
Yep, its HTC Sense 3
I must be missing something basic because from all the guides i've read you have to install a new ROm to keep root?
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Yes, it's stock right now.
At first you need to s-off your device (caution, you are about to void your warranty). You can do that using the revolutionary tool. Then you have to root, which can be done with superoneclick.
(edit: at this point you need to install a recovery like 4ext or cwm)
Root will not be undone when installing a
New ROM, neither do you need to install a new ROM. But I recommend to use a ROM with sense 3.5, it's much better.
You can find tutorials for everything I'm talking about right here in the forums.
Sent from my Desire S using XDA App

Ah, thats great, thanks. I didn't get that superoneclick could allow you to keep root.
Much appreciated.
I'll also look into the Sense 3.5. thanks again!

I forgot to mention: after rooting,
You need to install a custom recovery like 4ext or cwm. It's for backing up your system and flashing roms and updates and anything else you need
Sent from my Desire S using XDA App

Ok, so if I get s-off and then keep root by using superoneclick does that mean that I won't be able to receive updates through my network?

wageslave said:
Ok, so if I get s-off and then keep root by using superoneclick does that mean that I won't be able to receive updates through my network?
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If your s-off and rooted the installer will not install the update (never tried cause I dont use stock rom) - but there are alway newest rooted stock roms here on xda and you can update your system manually. Most of the time before your carrier sends you the "official" update.
But yes, you have to do it by yourself.

Steinhund said:
If your s-off and rooted the installer will not install the update (never tried cause I dont use stock rom) - but there are alway newest rooted stock roms here on xda and you can update your system manually. Most of the time before your carrier sends you the "official" update.
But yes, you have to do it by yourself.
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+1
But I think if you s-off and root and DO NOT install any other ROM you might still be able to download official updates for your stock ROM over the air
Sent from my Desire S using XDA App

Yes, you can use OTA (Over The Air update) ... but I think after that, you will loose your root
look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186401 FAQ's No. 5

ok, went to have a go at this but it looks like getting S-Off is quite complicated as well. I'm on HBOOT 2.00.0002.
Is there a shorter route to achieving root than:
downgrade
s-off
superoneclick (for root)
install custom recovery
If there isn't now is it likely to become available in the future or is the Desire S just difficult to do this with?

If You don't want to change rom, then stay s-on, unlock bootloader with htcdev and use superoneclick.

wageslave said:
Is there a shorter route to achieving root than:
downgrade
s-off
superoneclick (for root)
install custom recovery
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use the htcdev, but as mentioned its not recommended
its not that hard to do the stuff...

bronx said:
If You don't want to change rom, then stay s-on, unlock bootloader with htcdev and use superoneclick.
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+1
this will give you exaclty what you require
AND if you have S-OFF and apply an OTA you will stuck in a bootloop (white HTC splash screen)

bronx said:
If You don't want to change rom, then stay s-on, unlock bootloader with htcdev and use superoneclick.
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That's great, and exactly what i was looking for, thanks!
eyahl said:
use the htcdev, but as mentioned its not recommended
its not that hard to do the stuff...
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I get that the steps might be easy enough, but there are quite a lot of them and instructions can contain loops when put together (I.e. downgrading to get root may require root in some instructionals). I do appreciate your help and advice though. I may well switch ROMs, especially in the future (I can't see myself affording a new phone any time soon!)
amidabuddha said:
+1
this will give you exaclty what you require
AND if you have S-OFF and apply an OTA you will stuck in a bootloop (white HTC splash screen)
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Thanks for the tip!

ok i am late but i think i can help.
first of all stop confusing the damn guy with different kinds of stuff. even i was like him before rooting my precious desire s. he will learn the advantages and disadvantages of revolutionary s-off as time passes by.
for now follow this guide as i did this (and trust me i had the same intentions as you do)
first get your adb and fastboot setup, this is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272595
then go to htcdev and unlock your phone. follow the process, its easier than you think.
after your done, download superoneclick and root your phone. if you dont know much about superoneclick then search around or google it and you will find your anwsers. one more thing, htcdev will reset your phone.
sorry if i am late if you have already rooteed your phone.

@up wth are U talkin' bout dude?
Case was closed two days ago, op was informed, understood, even thanked everyone. What are You trying to show in here?

darkrider24 said:
first of all stop confusing the damn guy with different kinds of stuff. even i was like him before rooting my precious desire s. he will learn the advantages and disadvantages of revolutionary s-off as time passes by.
for now follow this guide as i did this (and trust me i had the same intentions as you do)
first get your adb and fastboot setup, this is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272595
then go to htcdev and unlock your phone. follow the process, its easier than you think.
after your done, download superoneclick and root your phone. if you dont know much about superoneclick then search around or google it and you will find your anwsers. one more thing, htcdev will reset your phone.
sorry if i am late if you have already rooteed your phone.
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Who do you think you are? Batman?
You've basically danced around the same bush that bronx, eyahl and amidabuddha planted already and announced salvation to the world!
Ohhh.... am I too late to save the day?...is it too late for the poor non-rooted buggers?!! What'll the world do without me? The ship you're trying to board sailed away two days ago... party's over man... but it's fascinating to see the way you look at yourself! Knight in shining armor indeed!!
This is your first post on the forum, and this is how you behave, and talk to other members...? You reap what you sow man...
P.S. : Even the OP has more posts than you!!

Lmao
I guess I'm not the only one who is killing time watching these boards 50 times a day.

bronx said:
Lmao
I guess I'm not the only one who is killing time watching these boards 50 times a day.
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Nope, you're not the only one
Enigmaamit at his best
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[Q] 1st time HTC Sensation user, in what order do I start customizing?

Hi guys. I've just got my brand spanking new HTC Sensation and i'm wondering what order to root/SOFF in and basically anything else as i've not done DIY rooting since my old HTC Desire a couple of years back so i'm a bit rust and confused.
I don't want to mess up and brick my phone so i'd like to know the things to do in the correct order and with the correct software/tools.
1st off i'll give the details about my device:
Phone - HTC Sensation Z710e
HBOOT - 1.27.0000
Android version - 4.0.3
HTC Sense version - 3.6
Software number - 3.32.771.13
Kernel version - 3.0.16-g159c6f3 / [email protected] build- 144 #1 / SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 3 08:37:16CST 2012
I hope that's enough info but I have more should we need it.
This is how i'm thinking of doing it but please correct me if i'm wrong:
1) S-OFF using the Juopunutbear S-OFF method.
2) Install CWM via this thread.
3) Once that's been done I can go about installing custom ROM's.
Hope that's correct.
Thanks.

hmm as you are on stock ICS
there are few different ways to have root/custom roms
1.staying SON and flashing roms (this involves HTC-DEV unolcked bootloader ..which might void your warranty ...but not a single person was denied warranty until now afaik..but there is risk still involved..as htc keeps your phone info in their data base)
to do that follow this guide to the letter
2.SOFF and flash roms
2.1. SOFF without HTC-DEV unlocked bootloader ...guide link in my signature (ohh forgot to mention HTC-DEV will completely erase your data ..once you do a unlock)
(cons ....wire trick which is required is little bit hard..but all the troubleshoot has been covered)
2.2 SOFF with HTC-DEV unlocked bootloader....guide link here
(you can skip steps #2 and #3 as you are already stock ..igf you decided to use that)
for both the SOFF procedures ..there is a good tool too ..here is the tool (it not only does soff ..but a lot of other stuff...do check it )
after gaining SOFF ..you can flash recovery ..and then ROM installation

thanks for the reply.
So basically to do everything I should just use this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668276

Buchtis said:
thanks for the reply.
So basically to do everything I should just use this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668276
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yep you can use that
and for thanks ..there is a button for that

I'm starting to lose it with this SOFF business. I've just beet at it far at least half an hour and it constantly fails with the error 66732337.
Could you link me to any ROM's that don't need SOFF please? Lost patience with this.

I've heard you have to be really precise with the wires

Haha i've literally just done it abour 20 seconds ago, tooted and SOFF! I can't get CWM to work though, i'm trying to flash it with that all-in-one job and i've donw everything it tells me to do but upon pressing the power button I get
CID incorrect!
Update fail!
Press <POWER> to reboot.
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Any ideas?

For the wire trick it's a matter of timing don't give up.read over instructions again regarding the timing.I know you can do it is just going to take patience. You will be glad later you s off as there is more you can do and it makes things much easier later. Hang in there and I know you will have success . Best wishes.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium

All sorted now, needed to flash the 11111111 CID.
Off to try some ROM's, is there anything else I need to do before that? I've rotted it, SOFF and installed CWM. As far as I know that's it but if there's anything else please tell me.

Buchtis said:
All sorted now, needed to flash the 11111111 CID.
Off to try some ROM's, is there anything else I need to do before that? I've rotted it, SOFF and installed CWM. As far as I know that's it but if there's anything else please tell me.
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use 4EXT recovery ..its much better imho
for recovery ..you can do it via 4ext app
but for that you need root
you can use my one click root for that (soff guide link in my signature)

Damn i've just installed CWM, is there any difference between the two there than 1 having touch screen or do they have different functions? Don't really want to keep messing about if both are basically the same.

some rom installation works only on 4EXT (it will be mentioned in the thread ..like ARHD)...so its you call ..it has lot of other features too ..and completely supports backup made by cwm too

Alright, last few questions and i'll be gone!
Currently using the CM9 nightly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1654409
1) How do I go about installing 4EXT with CWM already installed?
2) I've just installed CM9. When I have the ROM on my desktop, can I go into the 'app' folder and remove some of the crap I won't be using? Things like Email, Movie Studio, Terminal Emulator, DPS Manager, ROM Manager, Voice Dialer, WiFi Calling? I used to do this on my old HTC Desire and it was a trail and error process but it did not damage/brick my phone in any way, all I used to get were screen with 'this application is not responding' etc. Is this still safe to do on the HTC Sensation?
3) In CM9 Nightly, how come I can't overclock past 1.2Ghz (stock speed)?
Thanks guys.

1: if you have root, just download the app from play store
2: yes, you can
3: you need to flash a kernel supporting overclock, like bricked AOSP.
If you run into problems, let me know
Sent from my Sensation using xda premium

Alright, I lied about the 'final question'.
Basically i've uninstalled that 4EXT Easy Flash from here and it's replaced CWM. Works fine but i'm wondering if that's the newest version? Or could someone link me to the newest version please?

Download 4ext recovery updater free from the play store. It lets you update the recovery if u dont have newest version

Guys does anyone know the .apk name of 'Movie Studio'? Removing all the crap I won't use now and I can't find it in the app list folder.
Thanks.

I found VideoEditor.apk in system/app on CM9 RC 1

Got it, thank you very much!
Edit: I've also deleted 'Voice Dialer' and 'Update Me'. Hope that's O.K.

InfinityFTW said:
Download 4ext recovery updater free from the play store. It lets you update the recovery if u dont have newest version
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Says it costs £1.85.

[Q] HTC cha cha updated with 1.57.707.3

hello folks,
i hope someone will be able to help me. i want to root my cha cha but unable to because there's no RUU for my device. I recently updated it to 1.57.707.3, and the only RUU that i can find is 1.57.707.2. So since im not able to unlock my bootloader - i can't root and i can't install custom roms....
anyone else having same issue? what do you do? downgrade?
thanks - if have been answered, please provide me the link, i will read up... thanks again

MEAKU15 said:
hello folks,
i hope someone will be able to help me. i want to root my cha cha but unable to because there's no RUU for my device. I recently updated it to 1.57.707.3, and the only RUU that i can find is 1.57.707.2. So since im not able to unlock my bootloader - i can't root and i can't install custom roms....
anyone else having same issue? what do you do? downgrade?
thanks - if have been answered, please provide me the link, i will read up... thanks again
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i think i may have found a solution : look at this thread, will be trying at home later
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745723

STUCK!!! - i've tried the steps but when phone boots into HBOOT it tries to read the PH06 zip file but its does not recognised the image and jump to bootloader and asked whether want to install the update or not... i can't get it to work.... im at a dead end....

There is no need to update HBOOT. Just skip that step and continue unlocking on htcdev site. That is what I did, and I beleive many others. I wrote this down several times, and this is the last one. It worked for me without issues, whatsoever.
Regards

didije002 said:
There is no need to update HBOOT. Just skip that step and continue unlocking on htcdev site. That is what I did, and I beleive many others. I wrote this down several times, and this is the last one. It worked for me without issues, whatsoever.
Regards
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ok - i am unsure which step you are talking about. Is it the first step where u have to use the RUU file from the htcdev site? before clicking to next step? i am stuck there , i dont know how to proceed....
so if skipping that step, i go into bootloader mode, choose fastboot ,and proceed with step 5 and so on?? is that rite???

Are u trying to unlock boot loader?
If yes just follow the simple steps on htcdev page
And if u r stuck some where please mention it clear lay where exactly u got stuck
And to root ur device get clockwirkmode for or device and flash supersu
Good luck :thumbup:
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

hasibzaman said:
Are u trying to unlock boot loader?
If yes just follow the simple steps on htcdev page
And if u r stuck some where please mention it clear lay where exactly u got stuck
And to root ur device get clockwirkmode for or device and flash supersu
Good luck :thumbup:
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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hello , yes i am trying to unlock the boot loader - IM stuck on updating the RUU ROM , the first thing you have to do before proceeding on step 1. my version is not listed on the list therefore i cant run the RUU...
I will try to skip this step and see if i can proceed to the next, later on today.

MEAKU15 said:
hello , yes i am trying to unlock the boot loader - IM stuck on updating the RUU ROM , the first thing you have to do before proceeding on step 1. my version is not listed on the list therefore i cant run the RUU...
I will try to skip this step and see if i can proceed to the next, later on today.
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Yes, skip the RUU update and proceed.
Good luck!

didije002 said:
Yes, skip the RUU update and proceed.
Good luck!
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THANKS !!! i will do that and provide feedback.... i can't wait to have it rooted and flash custom roms...hahaah

Just to let everyone know i have successfully UNLOCK the bootloader , rooted and also flash CM9
the phone is much much much better.....
SITES i used to perform the steps:
1. htcdev.com ( if your RUU is not on the list, just skip this and proceed ) IT DOES WORK
2. To root and CWM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1452173to
3. Flash CM9 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1665828
mod: u may close the thread :0

Sorry to bump this old thread, but if I go to the step, where I have to write in the cmd of my windows, htc chacha is not recognized by my computer. I have installed htc sync! So basically the commad "cd \Android" doesnt do anything for me and I am stuck

Done. Just had to do the commands, without the chacha being actually recognized...

help with rooting

Hello everyday android fans just got this great phone from my uncle and would love to flash a rom on it (not a fan of sense ui) , Rooting. the best thing about android, we all want to root it, flash a rom or other goodies. But the one thing we android fans hate? Bricking. Im tired of bricking my phones because of someone elses stupid mistake, weather its a broken link when your half way into the process, wrong file or broken file, im tired of it, i have bricked so many great phones, so i have googled and searched this thread and i dont know where to start i cant find any root tuts, i know that htc dosent like it when people root their phones (dont know if this is true correct me if im wrong) because of the unlock thing and S-On. Now can someone please direct me to a root thread and maby even a rom, i would like a non sense rom but ics 4.0.4 or jb 4.1.1 sorry for how dumb i am.

Trozzul said:
Hello everyday android fans just got this great phone from my uncle and would love to flash a rom on it (not a fan of sense ui) , Rooting. the best thing about android, we all want to root it, flash a rom or other goodies. But the one thing we android fans hate? Bricking. Im tired of bricking my phones because of someone elses stupid mistake, weather its a broken link when your half way into the process, wrong file or broken file, im tired of it, i have bricked so many great phones, so i have googled and searched this thread and i dont know where to start i cant find any root tuts, i know that htc dosent like it when people root their phones (dont know if this is true correct me if im wrong) because of the unlock thing and S-On. Now can someone please direct me to a root thread and maby even a rom, i would like a non sense rom but ics 4.0.4 or jb 4.1.1 sorry for how dumb i am.
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This is what you need....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824379

glevitan said:
This is what you need....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824379
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this dosent Help Very much. there is no thread for how to root/S-off/Unlock bootloader for my phone and it even says its for the HTC Desire HD... ( Correct me if im wrong the Inspire was a variant of the Desire HD).

Trozzul said:
this dosent Help Very much. there is no thread for how to root/S-off/Unlock bootloader for my phone and it even says its for the HTC Desire HD... ( Correct me if im wrong the Inspire was a variant of the Desire HD).
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you are wrong. Inspire and desire HD are the same phone except for the radio frequencies. If you have read the guide in post 7 you would have found that.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app

Trozzul said:
this dosent Help Very much. there is no thread for how to root/S-off/Unlock bootloader for my phone and it even says its for the HTC Desire HD... ( Correct me if im wrong the Inspire was a variant of the Desire HD).
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They're the same phone. I recommend you read the guide. Root, S-Off and Unlock are all explained in great detail in the guide.

There have to be other small differences too, no? Screens or something, right?
First thing OP needs to do is check the build version. That will determine if you can run the aahk straight or if you need to unlock with htcdev first, flash insecure boot, downgrade, then root...
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda-developer's app

RuggedHunter said:
There have to be other small differences too, no? Screens or something, right?
First thing OP needs to do is check the build version. That will determine if you can run the aahk straight or if you need to unlock with htcdev first, flash insecure boot, downgrade, then root...
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda-developer's app
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The Hack Kit can always be used, he has to find what kinda preparation needs to be done for it to work.
Desire HD and Inspire and similar, DHD is the European version, and therefore the different frequencies, the rest are just the same. Even radios can be shared.
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glevitan said:
The Hack Kit can always be used, he has to find what kinda preparation needs to be done for it to work.
Desire HD and Inspire and similar, DHD is the European version, and therefore the different frequencies, the rest are just the same. Even radios can be shared.
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I still dont see what im looking for post 7 dosent show any links or what to do but it looks like you guys want me to unlock the bootloader first. But I have read in some threads and posts that they dont want you using the offical bootloader unlock if your going to use the hack kit aahk or whatever they are

Trozzul said:
I still dont see what im looking for post 7 dosent show any links or what to do but it looks like you guys want me to unlock the bootloader first. But I have read in some threads and posts that they dont want you using the offical bootloader unlock if your going to use the hack kit aahk or whatever they are
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Post 7 has a PDF guide. That includes any instructions you want. And no, you can't run AAHK on an unlocked bootloader.

how do i know if my device was shipped with gingerbread? i got this thing from my uncle and im sure he wouldnt know when he got it.

Trozzul said:
how do i know if my device was shipped with gingerbread? i got this thing from my uncle and im sure he wouldnt know when he got it.
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AAHK was retired a few days ago. The only option now is bootloader unlock, unless someone else comes up with a similar tool.

What do you mean AAHK is retired? is it not supported anymore? am i not able to root and flash a custom rom on my phone now?

Trozzul said:
What do you mean AAHK is retired? is it not supported anymore? am i not able to root and flash a custom rom on my phone now?
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It's neither available nor supported; the server hosting all the files it needs is no longer up. Like I said, the only option to root now is boot loader unlock.

bananagranola said:
It's neither available nor supported; the server hosting all the files it needs is no longer up. Like I said, the only option to root now is boot loader unlock.
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sorry im pretty dumb... so if i root and unlock the boot loader can i flash roms with Cwm? or do i have to be S-off? its S-on right now, not really sure what S-off /S-on is from what i have read its so you cant unistall stock apps?

Trozzul said:
sorry im pretty dumb... so if i root and unlock the boot loader can i flash roms with Cwm? or do i have to be S-off? its S-on right now, not really sure what S-off /S-on is from what i have read its so you cant unistall stock apps?
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Root and S-OFF are different things. Root means that you have administrator permissions at the rom level, so you can set different permissions in the rom. But, you can not flash all kinda stuff such as radios.
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you to flash CWM recovery and custom roms, but again not radios or boot images in recovery (you have to do it manually). As long as there is no other tool to gain S-OFF, unlocking the bootloader is the best choice.

glevitan said:
Root and S-OFF are different things. Root means that you have administrator permissions at the rom level, so you can set different permissions in the rom. But, you can not flash all kinda stuff such as radios.
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you to flash CWM recovery and custom roms, but again not radios or boot images in recovery (you have to do it manually). As long as there is no other tool to gain S-OFF, unlocking the bootloader is the best choice.
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I obtained AAHK literally the day before he retired it. I read everything thoroughly and it went off great with no problems. I think I might have been one of the last people to get S-OFF on this phone before he retired it. The only thing I can tell you is you might be able to google for ace advanced hack kit. I know you can find the blog this way, and you may be able to find the kit somewhere else to download. If you do happen to find the download somewhere, read EVERYTHING on the blog. If you read for comprehension and follow directions carefully, you can root and s-off without bricking. I did it first try no problems. Now I'm running Energy ROM for Sense 3.5 and love it.

glevitan said:
Root and S-OFF are different things. Root means that you have administrator permissions at the rom level, so you can set different permissions in the rom. But, you can not flash all kinda stuff such as radios.
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you to flash CWM recovery and custom roms, but again not radios or boot images in recovery (you have to do it manually). As long as there is no other tool to gain S-OFF, unlocking the bootloader is the best choice.
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so if i want to get custom roms like a ICS or JB Rom i would have to root/cwm and unlock the bootloader? and if i had to unlock the bootloader would i use htcdev? i have seen so many tuts its not even funny some people say to use it some say its bad and dont use it im very confused

hutch2509 said:
I obtained AAHK literally the day before he retired it. I read everything thoroughly and it went off great with no problems. I think I might have been one of the last people to get S-OFF on this phone before he retired it. The only thing I can tell you is you might be able to google for ace advanced hack kit. I know you can find the blog this way, and you may be able to find the kit somewhere else to download. If you do happen to find the download somewhere, read EVERYTHING on the blog. If you read for comprehension and follow directions carefully, you can root and s-off without bricking. I did it first try no problems. Now I'm running Energy ROM for Sense 3.5 and love it.
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I do not recommend trying to download AAHK and run it. You will probably get stuck in the middle. AAHK downloaded files from its servers during the process. That server is now down.
Trozzul said:
so if i want to get custom roms like a ICS or JB Rom i would have to root/cwm and unlock the bootloader? and if i had to unlock the bootloader would i use htcdev? i have seen so many tuts its not even funny some people say to use it some say its bad and dont use it im very confused
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Now, you need to unlock the bootloader with HTCDEV, flash a recovery like CWM, and either: flash a rooted ROM, or a su binary and a superuser app.
In the past when AAHK was around it was a much better option (gave S-Off) than bootloader unlock, which is probably why you see people saying not to use bootloader unlock. Now that AAHK is gone, unless/until glevitan makes his S-Off tool, bootloader unlock is the only option.

bananagranola said:
I do not recommend trying to download AAHK and run it. You will probably get stuck in the middle. AAHK downloaded files from its servers during the process. That server is now down.
Now, you need to unlock the bootloader with HTCDEV, flash a recovery like CWM, and either: flash a rooted ROM, or a su binary and a superuser app.
In the past when AAHK was around it was a much better option (gave S-Off) than bootloader unlock, which is probably why you see people saying not to use bootloader unlock. Now that AAHK is gone, unless/until glevitan makes his S-Off tool, bootloader unlock is the only option.
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you said a Rooted ROM? how would that work i dont know how to flash CWM yet since AAHK is gone .do i flash CWM on the stock recovery? if so how would i? download a CWM Version and rename it to Update.zip?

Trozzul said:
you said a Rooted ROM? how would that work i dont know how to flash CWM yet since AAHK is gone .do i flash CWM on the stock recovery? if so how would i? download a CWM Version and rename it to Update.zip?
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In post #7 of the thread linked in my signature, glevitan has a beginner's guide that includes instructions on bootloader unlock and root. There are also many threads strewn around the HTC Desire HD forums detailing how to do it step by step. (Note: DHD is essentially the same phone as the Inspire 4G; you can use their ROMs and their instructions, though I would be careful about their radios.)
EDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169515 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168500