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Whats happening to the roms for infuse?

There are no more devs interested on the infuse or y arent we getting anymore roms?
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Because of things like this....
This is not a development thread please post non-development threads in general
Thank you

I believe the reason we aren't getting more is because you aren't making them.
So, stop complaining and get to work.

pumasmedina7 said:
There are no more devs interested on the infuse or y arent we getting anymore roms?
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Come on man read and pay attention.
infused infuse helping other infused infuses?

NEO help the miss guided lol
infused infuse helping other infused infuses?

Help like infractiban?

They are waiting for the official Gingerbread release as stated in almost ALL of the dev topics especially the Rom ones...

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Because of things like this....
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Not even that. Don't post this kind of question, ever.
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Whoa don't gotta be so harsh to the guy. If I remember that's the same reason gtgs post got locked. So he made a mistake ,big deal.
Infuse running infused v2.0.2.

To the OP - It was a legitimate question. To me, it's about development, so should be asked here, but the moderators say questions should be asked in the Q and A section.
When asked a 3 months ago, it was said the lack of ROMs was waiting for Rogers to get GB. That came and went without updates. Now the same is being said for AT&T GB, and we all know the timeline ATT runs on... the government minus 50%.
Either way, there aren't many ROMs for the infuse, so it's kinda just a wait n see thing. I'm sure the couple that have been around will stay around, but ATT's next killer phone is coming out this month or next, so Infuse is going to end up in the graveyard of cell phones past from a development perspective, IMO.

I don't think galaxy will bury the infuse. I think more people down the line will get the infuse cuzz prices will.be cheaper.
Infuse running infused v2.0.2.

iruleyounow said:
I don't think galaxy will bury the infuse. I think more people down the line will get the infuse cuzz prices will.be cheaper.
Infuse running infused v2.0.2.
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I disagree. It's like saying when the iPad 2 came out it made the iPad 1 more popular. Sure, there are some incremental sales because it's discounted, but 95% of the iPads sold within 6 months of launch have been iPad 2.
Just the nature of the beast, that's why when ATT releases proprietary releases it kills the users development ROM options :-(

The reason is because some of the more influential developers have begun looking down on "hey look I can deodex too" ROMs. I personally believe that's the problem. There should be more "hey look I can deodex too" ROMs. Without those, there is no development.
Hey, "hey look I can deodex too" propigators... read this. Pay attention here.
There needs to be more encouragement for those who want to make their own ROMs. It's a pride thing. If someone believes they did a good job, then they will continue to work and do a better job.
I whole heartedly believe that additional ROMs are required. When I get some time I will be making one. I'd like to wait until we get an official or leaked 2.3 source because I'm not a cutting edge type of guy. I'd rather work with a solid base and improve upon it.

bella92108 said:
To the OP - It was a legitimate question. To me, it's about development, so should be asked here, but the moderators say questions should be asked in the Q and A section.
When asked a 3 months ago, it was said the lack of ROMs was waiting for Rogers to get GB. That came and went without updates. Now the same is being said for AT&T GB, and we all know the timeline ATT runs on... the government minus 50%.
Either way, there aren't many ROMs for the infuse, so it's kinda just a wait n see thing. I'm sure the couple that have been around will stay around, but ATT's next killer phone is coming out this month or next, so Infuse is going to end up in the graveyard of cell phones past from a development perspective, IMO.
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3 Months ago this phone was but a twinkle it Rogers eye. Stop acting like a fool. As soon as the dev's (gtg) got his hands on the Rogers dump, Infused 2.0 popped up. Others are still working on their GB roms, or they are waiting for AT&T to release it. The CWM build is updated almost daily.
Seriously you have 1300 posts and if this one is any indication, none of them are worth anything.

Guys, calm down on the flaming. That being said, I don't understand the question (which btw, should be in the Q&A section). This phone is still relatively young, and we have bionix, infused, refuse, and now we even have ports for cm7 and miui. The development is about to kick off even more, and I can feel it already. Also, I don't think people who are new to development are afraid to post ROMs. I would love to post ROMs, but I need guidance on how to make them. For me, it's lack of the proper tools and guidance, not shame stopping me from development.
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youre always welcome to make your own roms.

Im with btp i would love to make roms i love doing this stuff i make themes on a daily/weekly bases but i dont.lnow where to start
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most important thing is we need stable roms.
used to have htc inspire and there were plenty of rom and more or less stable.
i feel infuse is not popular right now and Samsung/ATT are also to be blamed for delaying Gingerbread.
but i am counting on the devs who are working on infuse one way or the another.

This is exactly what I DON'T want to see in the development forums. This is a discussion for General, but it started out as a question, so Q&A.
BUT! It's in development. The discussion IS constructive (as long as you people keep playing nice ), so create a thread like this for discussing this in General and you can continue.
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[REQ] De-Sensed vs Non-Sense. Please clarify when posting custom ROMs...

Loving the work that's been done here so far... but after downloading and installing not one, but two different 200+MB-sized roms listed as non-sense when they're really sense-based ROMS that have had sense elements stripped from them, can we be a little more definitive in the composure of these custom ROMs?
I need a TRULY non-sense ROM (vanilla based). Sense-based ROMs don't work with the WiiRemote Controller IME, and neither of these "non-sense" ROMs in this forum work with it, because they still lack the element that Vanilla android has but Sense ROMs exclude (can not recall the exact element but still).
I think it'd be reasonable to list Sense-stripped ROMs as "de-sensed" and truly non-sense ROMS (built off of Vanilla Android) "non-sense".
I admit, Most of you on here compiling these roms know a whole lot more about this than I do, so I could be mistaken about something (in which case I'll stand corrected). I'm just getting tired of taking the time that it does to download and install these seemingly gigantic ROMs (as I recall a truly Vanilla ROM is usually only 40-50MBs at most, not 200+) to find out they're not ultimately doing what I need them to.
One of, if not the utmost reason I've rooted my MyTouch4gS is to utilize the WiiRemoteController IME for use with the emulators. I might just have to wait until Cyanogenmod jumps on board with this phone to get a truly vanilla-based ROM ::shrugs:: who knows. If someone out there knows how to accomplish this, I anxiously await your efforts. Thanks =)
---edited my original post, I can see how the one instance of my use of the word "claim" might make the frustrations of my original post offend them, though no name calling or finger pointing was intended, my bad---

It looks like someone is trying to get his post count up. Lmfao. LEARN HOW TO READ THE TITLE OF OP. If you cant read thats NOT the devs fault. My title is clear as day. Weird how your the only one complaining of an issue thats not even an issue. I saw a commercial for hooked on phonics. Its on sell for 49.99 plus tax. Might be a great investment for you. Rather then bash developers for your own inability to read titles and ops I would get that book.
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Oh and true vanilla aosp roms is not 40-50mb its 80-110mb. Just fyi.
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We didn't make an error..I'm sure undead would agree ” senseless” means removing the htc overlay that is put over android....launcher, lock screen, widgets and other bloatware no typical user ..uses or understands....a ” senseless rom is just what we provided ....now let me clarify ...if it was a ” vanilla” rom the word ”senseless ” would be of no use because it would be AOSP which clearly isnt sense..also if we took every component out of the rom containing anything sense it would still be..sense lol AOSP isnt stripped down per say it is compiled from source .....I'm glad you like our work but when undead or myself or both of us decide to take the time to do AOSp or whatever you will know...
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AndroidAutobot said:
Loving the work that's been done here so far... but after downloading and installing not one, but two different 200+MB-sized roms claiming to be non-sense when they're really sense-based ROMS that have had sense elements stripped from them, can we PLEASE be a little more difinitive in the composure of these custom ROMs?
I need a TRUELY non-sense ROM (vanilla based). Sense-based ROMs don't work with the WiiRemote Controller IME, and neither of these "non-sense" ROMs in this forum work with it, because they still lack the element that Vanilla android has but Sense ROMs exclude (can not recall the exact element but still).
I think it'd be reasonable to list Sense-stripped ROMs as "de-sensed" and truely non-sense ROMS (built off of Vanilla Android) "non-sense".
I admit, Most of you on here compiling these roms know a whole lot more about this than I do, so I could be mistaken about something (in which case I'll stand corrected). I'm just getting tired of taking the time that it does to download and install these seemingly gigantic ROMs (as I recall a truely Vanilla ROM is usually only 40-50MBs at most, not 200+) to find out they're not ultimately doing what I need them to.
One of, if not the utmost reason I've rooted my MyTouch4gS is to utilize the WiiRemoteController IME for use with the emulators. I might just have to wait until Cyanogenmod jumps on board with this phone to get a truely vanilla-based ROM ::shrugs:: who knows. If someone out there knows how to accomplish this, I anxiously await your efforts. Thanks =)
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Truly AOSP-based ROMs will not come for a while. I'm not sure if someone has started a device tree for CM7 or not. It needs to be done otherwise.
No one will be "compiling" ROMs until the above is done. It's 7zipping all the way to the top until then!
Even when we do get AOSP based ROMs, don't expect them to work as well as Sense based ROMs for a LONG time. Even then, it may never be the same level of quality (even though it'll likely be a lot faster)
Don't post in development

computerkid23 said:
We didn't make an error..I'm sure undead would agree ” senseless” means removing the htc overlay that is put over android....launcher, lock screen, widgets and other bloatware no typical user ..uses or understands....a ” senseless rom is just what we provided ....now let me clarify ...if it was a ” vanilla” rom the word ”senseless ” would be of no use because it would be AOSP which clearly isnt sense..also if we took every component out of the rom containing anything sense it would still be..sense lol AOSP isnt stripped down per say it is compiled from source .....I'm glad you like our work but when undead or myself or both of us decide to take the time to do AOSp or whatever you will know...
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Thank you for your more civilized response. I did not intend to imply that you or undead made an error by any means. I apologise (to you, not him, if he had been a little more civilized I might be more remorseful) for any offense I may have brought to you. That was not my intent.
I only intended to bring stronger definition between senseless and AOSP. Which you've provided me and I now understand where I was wrong. It was my mistake, as I understood the concepts of building AOSP from the source and stripping a sense-based ROM, but did not previously realize that what I was looking for was an AOSP ROM built from source and not a sense-less ROM. Given your explanation, I agree and now understand what I previously did not comprehend.
And undead - What are you 12? I wasn't bashing anyone nor did I intend to. You clearly took my meaning completely wrong. I'm confused, it says you joined this community a month ago. Where do you get off trolling a member of this community who's been around here 2 years longer than you have? Cool your jets. Lets try and keep this place civilized and not act like children. If you misunderstand someone or think that someone's being offensive, please take an approach more similar to how computerkid handled the situation. It was simply a misunderstanding and, as such, did not require name calling or any of the absurdly superfluous (if you don't understand the meaning of that word, perhaps you should get some hooked on phonics) insults you've thrown my way. I'm not really going to designate any kind of response past this defense. I'm not trying to troll, these are merely the 2 cents I've earned after what you've just unnecessarily expressed. Chill out dude.

Romanbb said:
Truly AOSP-based ROMs will not come for a while. I'm not sure if someone has started a device tree for CM7 or not. It needs to be done otherwise.
No one will be "compiling" ROMs until the above is done. It's 7zipping all the way to the top until then!
Even when we do get AOSP based ROMs, don't expect them to work as well as Sense based ROMs for a LONG time. Even then, it may never be the same level of quality (even though it'll likely be a lot faster)
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Thanks for the knowledge.
Sorry for posting in this forum, I posted it here because it was a request for any ROMs being posted here in the future, which seemed to bear some relevance until I stood corrected (which I do).
The only other time I've rooted a Sense-based phone was when I ended up rooting my MyTouch3G Slide months after I had owned it, when CM was already available for it. So I didn't previously realize what an endeavor it is to achieve what I'm waiting for.
Given the information I've obtained from this thread, it makes a lot of sense that it would take some time.

Mods please remove this crap out of the development thread. This users inability to read ops is the root cause of his issue and common sense woulda helped him resolve this ”issue” ! He also created a thread JUST LIKE THIS in my nonsense thread, computerkid23 tasteless venom thread, and in the general section of the mytouch 4g slide.
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So far the devs all seem pretty clear about how they just removed the Sense overlay/UI or some of the Sense / mySense elements and I also hope they continue to be as definitive; it doesn't seem like they're cliaming they're AOSP-based. Usually devs will post when a ROM is AOSP-based or CM7-based so you'll know what you're getting yourself into, and the devs thus far have done a respectable job of defining what they've done, which is for the most part, take the stock ROM and remove just about as much as possible to streamline things.

Undeadk9 said:
Mods please remove this crap out of the development thread. This users inability to read ops is the root cause of his issue and common sense woulda helped him resolve this ”issue” ! He also created a thread JUST LIKE THIS in my nonsense thread, computerkid23 tasteless venom thread, and in the general section of the mytouch 4g slide.
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Wow youre a piece of work.
It was relevant in the development thread to start, as it was a request for future development (duh). two mere comments in other threads (that did pertain to the ROMs in particular, where this one pertains to future ROMs) is hardly cross-posting as youre acusing me of. And what post in the general thread are you even speaking of? Ive never even been in the general thread for this phone. Youre loosing your mind.
This thread however is clearly no longer relevant because it was based on a misunderstanding of what i was actually looking for. Again... How old are you? I swear my 3 year old nephew is better tempered than you are lol.
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Not to fan the flames but the development section is for active development not requests those go in general or q&a but we didn't get a q&a in our sub forum
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Ok guys enough already. Dev is not for requests or Question threads. I have moved this thread to General. Now as for the rudeness IT STOPS or you will be on the wrong side of a ban. Plan and simple. If you are looking for a certain aspect of a rom please do your research on the rom. If you dont see if something is supported ask the Dev about it. As for the thing you are looking for, if the source code is available then you can build one from source. But with the lack of things i see I am not sure if it is even released.
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[VOTE] We need a dev team around ICS, no?

Hi
These last days, and this is a joy, a few new/or not developers are beginning to create roms on ICS.
Each rom has a difference with others, and i noticed some roms has qualities that are not found on others, but need the advantages of some others.
A few users asked it before, i offer today with this thread (i hope this is not a mistake, and that it will remains clean), to vote. The target is to ask to our developers to create a sort of developing team, around a "unic" rom.
Their competences put in common should be awsome, don't you think?
If you want to help me to make this thread known by developers, do not hesitate to link it in your signature, by this way, dev in the development section could see the result of the vote, that i hope to be YES
Thx for your responses, and please take this thread clean

Want a good idea !

Google is doing this. Wait for the official release...
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It is called the CM team.... facepalm
FYI, Koush is an integral member of that team (not that they have been working on ICS as a team yet)

This is a terribly biased survey. Where's the option for "No, we'd like to see a diverse selection of Roms"
With all due respect, "Nope, i prefer lot of partially working roms" is a very suggestive option, that says you're critical of the current work, or just impatient.
Seriously dude, ics JUST CAME OUT. Teams will form, and work will get done in due time.
Patience, grasshopper.

Have you no humour?
If you say no, indeed it can be for other reasons..
In fact, the target is to reach an almost stable and fully functionnal BEFORE the official release...
after this, no need to have a team, on a official base, a dev can do something good alone.
As you like to call me grasshoper, and with all the due respect , i would like to call you embittered cod-fish.
Does it fit enough to you sir?

Bad news from Virtuous Team

"and over the next few days we will be moving all active threads from XDA over to Rootz."
http://www.virtuousrom.com
Looks like their are living XDA
i am very dissapointed for this, i am using their rom's for some time as the only daily alternative to stock roms.

draghiciandrei said:
"and over the next few days we will be moving all active threads from XDA over to Rootz."
http://www.virtuousrom.com
Looks like their are living XDA
i am very dissapointed for this, i am using their rom's for some time as the only daily alternative to stock roms.
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Wow, that's a real shame. But to be honest, i don't blame them. All the devs seem to be moving there.
At least one good thing came out of it. It seems they have released a sense 4.0 ROM (still based on primo) for the Desire S.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/21164-rom22-03-2012x-series-virtuous-primadonna-v1120-alpha-1/

Wow..... the Desire s section SINKS....

Not only the desire s section, they are movong all their active topics for all devices supported by them.
From my point of view it's a huge hit for XDA
With no disrespect for the remaining developers. I do appreciate their work also.
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That's a real shame. I thought XDA was more popular? Why the change?
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"By moving there we have more control over our threads and can work on building a friendly community for our users."
with now hidden intention or disrespect for neither of the two communities i really don't
understand their move because from my point of view we can't compare the forums, XDA is a way better option, more populated, more experienced etc.
some other reason may be that they will be more exclusively on that forum or they may had same uglly discussions with the forum management.
Either way i am very sorry for this decision, i was very happy with XDA i had all the information& news here and i rarely visited other forums for smartphones knowledge.

Wow that sucks.
But anyway I tried the beta 4.0. And i was no happy camper.
My phone had regular reboots, thats not excactly what a phone should do
But meanwhile using Ice Cold Sandwich I don't have any reboots any more.
BTT: Can't understand that, though having not that much control. There is quite a lot of traffic on XDA diffrent to Rootz i guess.
So some people won't discover Virtous..

The reason they left was stupid behaviour by the people see the post below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23937418&postcount=962
Swyped from my HTC Desire S....

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and you said that my posts where harsh

suku_patel_22 said:
The reason they left was stupid behaviour by the people see the post below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23937418&postcount=962
Swyped from my HTC Desire S....
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Granted, the posts were mean but don't justify relocating. In my native tongue, we say "decapitation isn't the cure-all for headaches". It might as well recur at the new forum but I guess it's more than mere ETA *****ing (sorry for the foul language). My take? Here it goes:
Well, I really loved it here with them. Needless to say, prior to now, I never before now checked out other forums since discovering XDA. I guess I'll have to check the Virtuous homepage from time to time. No prompt updates anymore. No flashing within an hour of ROM release. I truly wish they'd reconsider the total move (or even rescind the decision. I see no harm in keeping even if a single Virtuous thread in XDA). But that's all I can do - wish. XDA may have taken a hit but is by no means any less magnificent because of it. I'd implore them to stroll by & contribute from time to time. We haven't excommunicated them.
On a final note, this ought not inspire a massive de-camping to other forums. If you must, open alternate accounts in other forums. But let XDA keep outshining all others out there.

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[Q] Development section getting filled with identical Roms

Now that there's tools for the average 13year old to kang up a rom or just re-release a Sense 4 Rom, the development section is getting flooded with identical Roms, I think each Rom thread should have a poll, and if it has had say 100 views after 2 weeks at least 5% of the viewers have to run it, not download, install, remove because its the same as their last rom so they just restore nandroid for all setting and apps back, but run it as daily.
There's 15+ Sense 4 Roms, at least 10 are identical with different wallpapers and maybe hard set leedroid tweaks installed.
They all mention about being deodexed and zip alligned but let's face it, the so called developers have not developed these roms at all and they need to stop.
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Nope. Its because of people like you that dev's leave or stop developing for devices.
You'd rather be picky and pick which developers can stay and which have to leave because of "unsatisfactory" work.
Im sorry, but it doesn't work that way. You really don't have a say in that.
Everyone has to start somewhere and everyone has the right to create a modified or custom rom. Leave them alone.
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OllieArmageddon said:
Now that there's tools for the average 13year old to kang up a rom or just re-release a Sense 4 Rom, the development section is getting flooded with identical Roms, I think each Rom thread should have a poll, and if it has had say 100 views after 2 weeks at least 5% of the viewers have to run it, not download, install, remove because its the same as their last rom so they just restore nandroid for all setting and apps back, but run it as daily.
There's 15+ Sense 4 Roms, at least 10 are identical with different wallpapers and maybe hard set leedroid tweaks installed.
They all mention about being deodexed and zip alligned but let's face it, the so called developers have not developed these roms at all and they need to stop.
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Completely disagree... I mean...what are you doing here in xda? You should be kicked off immediately...
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Dude... Stop being such a turd, I know you may be annoyed by it but each developer has put in hours upon hours sat at a computer just for those roms to work. Each Rom has something different. Without all these amazing developers many people would have left this phone long ago. They are xda. So please stop your moaning.
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Can we please have a mod take a look at this thread? Also, reported.
EDIT: If you read this and it made you feel this way, then I think you should go through the post once more; you've misunderstood it or I have.
EDIT 2: Disagree with the OP, but let's keep this clean, please? Remember the thread is about the ROMs in the development section & not about the Original poster

totally disagree as well.
why don't you use the so called "13 year old tools" you speak about to make your own ROM and take a hike? oh i know why, because you don't know how to use them. you're not only disrespecting XDA and the Devs, you're also disrespecting your device. Android and it's openness is not for people like you.

Please stay on topic guys. The OP makes a valid point which is even talked about on the portal.
There are multiple sides to this "issue". Some might argue that XDA is site for original development, others might say that there a place in this world for every single ROM, no matter how it was created.
In the end XDA is a public forum where we will always have different opinions.
That said, please stay civil here, or the thread will be closed.

I might say, the sensation development section has many ROMs with similar base, but to say ROMs are identical, then no.
And to make a note that every single device is different than the other, one ROM that works perfect for me, might not work perfectly for you, and here comes the benefit of this diversity in ROMs.

Never noticed identical dishes! Seems to be a nice variety of menu items!

Dear sir, you are incorrect!
I totally disagree. If in fact you are bothered
by the options Available here at xda I suggest you FIND ANOTHER forum. I for one am grateful for the options available to me and for ALL the developers here at this forum!.
They all have a very important contribution to this forum. SHAME on you for suggesting otherwise..we are entitled to a opinion I have mine you have yours. :
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I'm not saying they should be all closed down, I'm saying if they don't kick off within 2 weeks - month then should we have a poll to whether they stay open or even get moved to an Early development section, or at least be able to distinguish between succeeding roms and ones with 10 downloads in 2 weeks,
I agree that people need somewhere to start developing, but should there be a lower class development section, then as a Rom grows move it to main development section?
I'm sorry for the grumpy OP, it was early and I missed the days of my HTC Wildfire's development section, each Rom had huge differences and you would pick one to match your life style, now you just pick a base,
The recent post in XDA news about cyanogen wanting people to start a Rom from scratch, build it up completely different from any other, that's what I would ideally want.
I'm sorry again for the offensive OP
I didn't get my banana today...

OllieArmageddon said:
I'm not saying they should be all closed down, I'm saying if they don't kick off within 2 weeks - month then should we have a poll to whether they stay open or even get moved to an Early development section, or at least be able to distinguish between succeeding roms and ones with 10 downloads in 2 weeks,
I agree that people need somewhere to start developing, but should there be a lower class development section, then as a Rom grows move it to main development section?
I'm sorry for the grumpy OP, it was early and I missed the days of my HTC Wildfire's development section, each Rom had huge differences and you would pick one to match your life style, now you just pick a base,
The recent post in XDA news about cyanogen wanting people to start a Rom from scratch, build it up completely different from any other, that's what I would ideally want.
I'm sorry again for the offensive OP
I didn't get my banana today...
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Now, when you calm down and talk in a suggestive manner, I can understand what you mean.
But really, is there that much scope for development? How much can change today?
How ready are you to try something that you know isn't stable?
The fact is if someone were to start off with something new, they surely wouldn't get it right the first time around. Will people be willing to risk their phones to try something new?
These questions need to be answered & any good dev would of course think of these things.
Also, you base so much on visual appearances, what have you used of the ROM that you base these claims that the ROMs are the same on? Have you seen how they work on your device?
When you are talking of the Sense 4.0 ROMs I really wonder how much of a visual difference you expect to see in Sense? Why not download a new skin? It will feel like a new ROM experience if appearance is all that counts.
These are my honest opinions & being a noob, I hope that these opinions don't offend anyone.

I don't see the point in your suggestion. The forum does that by itself, the popular roms stay on the first page while those with less users end up in the pages afterwards.
As long as devs aren't kanging each other without permission I don't see a problem with new roms. Your original argument that the sense 4 roms are all the same is understandable in a way. The devs working on sense 4 are doing an amazing job and they have gotten rid of the majority of bugs. Without thr amount of devs that are working on it, there is no way sense 4 would be where its at on our phones. You seem to be basing this "lack" of variety of roms on the ui. This argument is almost completely irrelevant at this point since the fusion.apk in sense 4 is locked down, and this is the base for the majority of ui changes on sense itself. There's probably 8 sense 4 roms and the majority are made by exceptional devs who are working together on getting sense 4 to the best state possible.
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kgs1992 said:
Now, when you calm down and talk in a suggestive manner, I can understand what you mean.
But really, is there that much scope for development? How much can change today?
How ready are you to try something that you know isn't stable?
The fact is if someone were to start off with something new, they surely wouldn't get it right the first time around. Will people be willing to risk their phones to try something new?
These questions need to be answered & any good dev would of course think of these things.
Also, you base so much on visual appearances, what have you used of the ROM that you base these claims that the ROMs are the same on? Have you seen how they work on your device?
When you are talking of the Sense 4.0 ROMs I really wonder how much of a visual difference you expect to see in Sense? Why not download a new skin? It will feel like a new ROM experience if appearance is all that counts.
These are my honest opinions & being a noob, I hope that these opinions don't offend anyone.
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Im as cool as a cucumber all the time anyway lol
I'm using sense 4 as an example as many have been released in past 2-3 weeks.
I would just like to see more original roms on here

We have GB, ICS, Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5, Sense 3.6, Sense 4.0, MIUI, AOSP, CM... Right now the devs are working with what bases they have available to them. When JB and KLP get dropped then I'm sure those will make their way here as well, but by then you'll probably have moved on to a newer device anyways.
As was already mentioned, the popular roms stay at the top so the sorting is done automatically. If people don't like a rom it will fall back in the page count and be long forgotten!
If you want, I can make a port of cupcake for you. How different would that be!?

GROGG88 said:
We have GB, ICS, Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5, Sense 3.6, Sense 4.0, MIUI, AOSP, CM... Right now the devs are working with what bases they have available to them. When JB and KLP get dropped then I'm sure those will make their way here as well, but by then you'll probably have moved on to a newer device anyways.
As was already mentioned, the popular roms stay at the top so the sorting is done automatically. If people don't like a rom it will fall back in the page count and be long forgotten!
If you want, I can make a port of cupcake for you. How different would that be!?
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If you can get it working on newest firmware then yes
Random things like this is what I'd like to see, even a android Linux combo, being able to install android and Linux apps to one Rom would be amazing,
I liked the times when we had things like the HQ Camera mod come out, if smalled devs could work together on projects like that then the Dev section would be filled with newer stuff
I'm not trying to attack devs, just try to see my point, one rom doesn't stand out from another any more

How come nobody is allowed to state their opinion on xda without somebody getting mad? I agree most of the roms are the same. And it my opinion, none of them seem to work right. Bit again, someone will disagree and tattle tail on me to a moderator or say I need to be kicked off because they disagree with my opinion. No one ever said anyone else had to agree with anyone's opinion. If you don't agree then state your opinion and step aside. Nobody needs you spamming threads with **** like "you need to be kicked off" cause someone has an opinion. The OP did not say anything about race religion creed or sexual orientation therefore he can rightfully say whatever else he wants. Grow up. If you don't like it then you have every right to go somewhere else.

Kevc44485 said:
How come nobody is allowed to state their opinion on xda without somebody getting mad? I agree most of the roms are the same. And it my opinion, none of them seem to work right. Bit again, someone will disagree and tattle tail on me to a moderator or say I need to be kicked off because they disagree with my opinion. No one ever said anyone else had to agree with anyone's opinion. If you don't agree then state your opinion and step aside. Nobody needs you spamming threads with **** like "you need to be kicked off" cause someone has an opinion. The OP did not say anything about race religion creed or sexual orientation therefore he can rightfully say whatever else he wants. Grow up. If you don't like it then you have every right to go somewhere else.
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Our community is awesome only because of devs, who work really hard for us.. if they leave, our sensation forum will die down. Such threads would push devs away & that's the only reason I reported this. Also, I didn't scream ban! I just wanted the mod to take a look. I am sorry if this was wrong but I only had the best interest of the community in mind..
Also, I am sorry for this OT. I just wanted to explain what I thought, if anyone cares that is.
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kgs1992 said:
Our community is awesome only because of devs, who work really hard for us.. if they leave, our sensation forum will die down. Such threads would push devs away & that's the only reason I reported this. Also, I didn't scream ban! I just wanted the mod to take a look. I am sorry if this was wrong but I only had the best interest of the community in mind..
Also, I am sorry for this OT. I just wanted to explain what I thought, if anyone cares that is.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with beats audio
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Yeah I understand what your saying, everyone has an opinion and I searched and couldn't find anywhere I could express it, so created this thread

I gotta agree. Aside from CM9/MIUI/AOKP/Paranoid Android, most Sense 3.6/Sense 4.0 ROMs are the same.