What it the extent that Dev's have customized the Xoom FE, if at all?
Will there be, or are there currently any custom rom's being made for the Xoom FE?
Why is there a difference on the rom's for the Xoom FE and the regular Xoom WiFi?
I was under the assumption that the only difference between the Xoom's was the screen and front facing camera quality, what are the other differences?
It would be great to have this and any other information on the Xoom FE for any newcomers to the Xoom's to know. Especially since they area really cheap and people with be buying more of them.
Thank you ahead of time.
Xoom is a Google Experience Device, a Nexus if you will. It comes with an unlocked bootloader, making things exponentially easier for devs.
The fe Xoom has a locked boot loader and no one has found a way to unlock it as of yet, the original Xoom has an unlockable boot loader making it easier to do custom ROMs etc
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So what's a better buy, since I am confused and conflicted as to what to get.
Motorola Milestone or Nexus One/Desire?
I actually have no clue, its confusing to think which one and every time I think I decide I go back to the middle.
And I know that for the Nexus One, this website has one strong modding front behind it, but I have no idea where, if any, modding movement exists for the Droid, since I haven't found anything on this forum.
What are your thoughts on it?
aniteshj said:
So what's a better buy, since I am confused and conflicted as to what to get.
Motorola Milestone or Nexus One/Desire?
I actually have no clue, its confusing to think which one and every time I think I decide I go back to the middle.
And I know that for the Nexus One, this website has one strong modding front behind it, but I have no idea where, if any, modding movement exists for the Droid, since I haven't found anything on this forum.
What are your thoughts on it?
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I personally have the N1 and also have T-mobiles "droids" aka cliqs... Htc is far better when it comes to hardware. I suggest the N1!
In my experience - if I want to get google/android updates ASAP I would only go with whatever google choses to sleep with (stock i.e. without any skin)
For GSM that would be the Nexus One.
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In my experience - if I want to get google/android updates ASAP I would only go with whatever google choses to sleep with (stock i.e. without any skin)
For GSM that would be the Nexus One.
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Aha no Droid love? Is there a site dedicated to Droid mods like this has a section for Nexus development as well?
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Aha no Droid love? Is there a site dedicated to Droid mods like this has a section for Nexus development as well?
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nope, moto is lacking in the game... plus nexus isnt a branded phone... its a HTC/GOOGLE not a T-mobile/AT&T/Sprint/V-word phone that should be enough to go by in your choice...
I'm also kind of in a boat like this one. I have a G1 and desperately want to upgrade. I'm considering the EVO since Austin has a 4G tower here. The prices and plans are attractive too. The one thing holding me back however is the hotspot feature in froyo. Sprint will almost certainly cut this feature out of the froyo update for the EVO since they want to charge 30 bucks a month to use that. I'm wondering if there will be a version of froyo from cyanogen (or the many other developers out there) for the evo to circumvent this (not to mention to get rid of the Sense UI).
This isn't any easier a decision to make now aha.
I vote for Motorola milestone
considering its hardware keyboard
I have a Milestone and the hardware keyboard is useful, but I don't like the way Motorola have locked down the bootloader.
That means that even when rooted, we are limited in what can be hacked about!
I will be getting rid of the Milestone and getting a Desire soon if that tells you anything.
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I have a Milestone and the hardware keyboard is useful, but I don't like the way Motorola have locked down the bootloader.
That means that even when rooted, we are limited in what can be hacked about!
I will be getting rid of the Milestone and getting a Desire soon if that tells you anything.
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I see what you mean, well I've put in a few offers to some used N1s, my local shop stopped carrying them!!!
If you do not have any need for a hardware keyboard N1 will be better beause of the faster CPU.
If you like hardware keyboards like me you will forget about N1.
There are quite a few forums with support for the Droid/ Milestone.
Depends on the kind of work you want to do. If all you want is a shiny super modded device with great screen contrast (excluding touchscreen response) and speed and early updates, get Nexus One.
If you need to do a lot of typing and/or need better screen response, get Milestone.
While milestone doesn't have a dedicated community behind it, doing lots of rom porting, most of the useful N1 mods work on it. Also, it is a very solid and well built phone. The build quality compared to nexus one is equally good, if not better. You can also get it overclocked to about 1.2GHz which makes it run superfast, if you are worried about speed.
Would you guys say it'd be wise getting a Xoom at this point? I love the connectivity and dont mind the weight. Its the screen im not sure about...u guys happy with it?
Now that its been around for a wile do you guys have any regrets or would you recommend it instead of other, more recent and lightweight tablets?
I'd appreciate your thoughts...
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Would you guys say it'd be wise getting a Xoom at this point? I love the connectivity and dont mind the weight. Its the screen im not sure about...u guys happy with it?
Now that its been around for a wile do you guys have any regrets or would you recommend it instead of other, more recent and lightweight tablets?
I'd appreciate your thoughts...
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I'll jump right in and say that I love mine. I've got a great screen, and there are some that seem a bit washed out, so you might want to look at the one you're getting just to make sure you like the colors and saturation is ok. Xoom has a more natural level of saturation than some of the other tabs that are going for drama. I think this is a great time to get a Xoom because Ice Cream Sandwich is coming and I think it will solve many of the issues people have been having with stock Honeycomb. Those of us who are rooted and use custom Roms/kernels already have a taste of ICS as the developers have tweaked and added lots of functionality to the basic Honeycomb OS, but with the ICS source code to be released, we'll have lots of great custom roms, because the xoom is a developer's tablet. This tab is only getting better. Still has great hardware specs, is tough, almost un-brickable and does just about all I could ask for. There is room for improvement though, especially on the software side, so it will be an exciting time.
If you can get a good deal on a new or gently used Xoom, I advise that you go for it.
Don't have a xoom wish i had wait a week later, i do enjoy my acer 500.
I just bought one from Ebay - UK one originally from John Lewis. It has 3g and Wifi - very excited and it only cost me £280.
I currently have a rooted, overclocked and tweaked HTC Desire HD and absolutely love it. I get 2 days battery life out of it, lots of great tweaks and am so glad that I had my iPhone stolen 8 months ago! I would have ignored Android if it weren't for those theives!
I am now looking forward to rooting and tinkering about with my Xoom once it arrives.... Monday hopefully!
Any recommendations root and rom wise for a complete and utter noob?
32G, right? I hope so!
Looks like you guys are getting the 3.2 update OTA for those that are not rooted. You could accept the update and then unlock, fastboot flash CWM recovery (I prefer the solarnz R4c v3.2.0.0, myself) and then root using solarnz' Universal Xoom Root zip and then flash Tiamat Moray Rom, etc...
here is a guide that can help...it's a lot to digest but it sounds like you have experience:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798
Also, check out this thread for lots of great info, and app suggestions:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209341
Happy Xooming!
Is any clockworkmod or similar for xoom 2?? Any way to boot the xoom 2 from usb hd?
Best Regards.
I waiting for it, too. Sometimes I regret I didn't get first xoom, when I see how many Roms I could try... It seems we have to wait some time.
Yeah I haven't seen a good explaination as to why the xoom2 and xyboard tablets haven't been hacked properly. As far as i've seen, it doesnt look like anyone ever will either. It's such a shame, it is such a great and robust tablet. One would have thought that motorola products would have gotten some love (being owned by google now n all). Very big dispointment, xoom2 could be so much more with a decent recovery.
Will never buy motorola again thats for sure. shame that the hackers choices have so much influence over which tablets people will buy... really sinks the boat for so many kickass devices.
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Yeah I haven't seen a good explaination as to why the xoom2 and xyboard tablets haven't been hacked properly. As far as i've seen, it doesnt look like anyone ever will either. It's such a shame, it is such a great and robust tablet. One would have thought that motorola products would have gotten some love (being owned by google now n all). Very big dispointment, xoom2 could be so much more with a decent recovery.
Will never buy motorola again thats for sure. shame that the hackers choices have so much influence over which tablets people will buy... really sinks the boat for so many kickass devices.
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Nothing to do with hackers choices and everything to do with locked bootloader from Motorola... If it were unlockable I guess it would have a lot of developement. At the moment "hackers" can't do anything because there is NO WAY for custom recovery to be installed. The original Xoom is unlockable because it is a Google Experience Device. The Xoom2 is a better device (no tegra2 lags on 2D graphics) but locked up!
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Nothing to do with hackers choices and everything to do with locked bootloader from Motorola... If it were unlockable I guess it would have a lot of developement. At the moment "hackers" can't do anything because there is NO WAY for custom recovery to be installed. The original Xoom is unlockable because it is a Google Experience Device. The Xoom2 is a better device (no tegra2 lags on 2D graphics) but locked up!
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^^^ exactly...
Motorola is rolling out a bootloader unlock tool though. Whether they give support for the xoom 2 we will have to wait and see.
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Hi,
So I'm new to Android, and I've only had a Nexus 7 for a week (I sold it) which I rooted and had some custom roms for.
I wanted the Xperia Z, but it's shape is too square and thus bulky. I like that this Razr HD is a bit water resistant, has excellent battery, the keflav back, and is a less cumbersome size.
But- i'm concerned as this device isn't one of the more popular. Does this mean i will have to wait much longer for upgrades even if rooted? And less support in future? could some apps not run/be designed for this device?
Basically- Im someone who keeps their phone for ages. Im still using a jailbroken 3GS happily. As much as i dont like apple- its good that i can always run the latest OS...
Just wanted thoughts on all this. Cheers
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Hi,
So I'm new to Android, and I've only had a Nexus 7 for a week (I sold it) which I rooted and had some custom roms for.
I wanted the Xperia Z, but it's shape is too square and thus bulky. I like that this Razr HD is a bit water resistant, has excellent battery, the keflav back, and is a less cumbersome size.
But- i'm concerned as this device isn't one of the more popular. Does this mean i will have to wait much longer for upgrades even if rooted? And less support in future? could some apps not run/be designed for this device?
Basically- Im someone who keeps their phone for ages. Im still using a jailbroken 3GS happily. As much as i dont like apple- its good that i can always run the latest OS...
Just wanted thoughts on all this. Cheers
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Official upgrades for android devices are at the whim of the manufacturer and the carrier unless we're talking about a nexus device which gets updates directly from Google. On Verizon updates typically take longer to come out due to what they say is extensive testing, but recently they've been better about it imo. Unofficial updates are governed by the amount and quality of developers on that particular device. For moto phones we have a nice core of developers that keep us up to date. Now that the newest moto phones have had their bootloaders unlocked, development has really picked up. The development scene on Android is a lot different and more complicated then the Apple side. Due to the amount of high end android devices that are released every year the development scene moves pretty quickly. That isn't to say older devices aren't dev'd for but it is a possibility to consider. In the moto world devices as far back as the droid 3 are still actively supported. Many of us started out with moto and have never left.
Don't worry about the apps. Unless the device falls really behind in the os version all apps will be supported. It's not like apple where if your phone doesn't have the latest update a third of the apps don't work. There are apps coded specifically for features only available on the latest Android version but those are very few due to people wanting to make money lol.
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Cheers for that really helpful response.
It all seems pretty good to me with app compatibility.
So- if I understand correctly, if I unlock the bootloader & root my phone, I wont have to rely on Moto/my carrier for the OS updates?
Are there any other general things I should know before saying no to more mainstream (GS4) device?
Cheers
ycon said:
Cheers for that really helpful response.
It all seems pretty good to me with app compatibility.
So- if I understand correctly, if I unlock the bootloader & root my phone, I wont have to rely on Moto/my carrier for the OS updates?
Are there any other general things I should know before saying no to more mainstream (GS4) device?
Cheers
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Yes to your first question. Technically you would only need root to stop carrier updates but none of the new roms are being developed for locked devices.
Firstly know that the HD has basically the same innards as the gs3 except with 1gb less ram and a less impressive camera. The two monster phones out/coming out right now are the gs4 and the HTC one with a new nexus hopefully out soon. The gs4 represents some of the best hardware available (with newer still coming out later this year) and will have a lot of Dev focus. Out of those 3 phones Verizon will only be getting the gs4 most likely. In terms of what phone to get I would say you need to physically handle each before making a decision. If you must be on Verizon then the gs4 would be a great choice but some people don't like the build materials and feel of the phone (similar to gs3). People sticking with moto appreciate the solid feel, excellent materials, amazing radio strength, and battery life.
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koftheworld;4080229The gs4 represents some of the best hardware available (with newer still coming out later this year) and will have a lot of Dev focus. Out of those 3 phones Verizon will only be getting the gs4 most likely. In terms of what phone to get I would say you need to physically handle each before making a decision. If you must be on Verizon then the gs4 would be a great choice but some people don't like the build materials and feel of the phone (similar to gs3). People sticking with moto appreciate the solid feel said:
Cheers for that. I am not on Verizon (I'm in Australia), I'll buy the phone unlocked.
I have had a look at the GS4, HTC One and Razr all together.
The GS4 is my favourite in terms of size, but I'd rather sacrifice the power (Quad core) for the longer battery, better call reception, stronger build, and lower price of the Razr HD.
I might jsut have to wait for the new Nexus phone to come out. I've heard Google will be subsidizing it, so the price might be right.
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I'm big on custom ROMs and the benefits that come with them. I decided to get a Razr Maxx Hd for the supposedly amazing battery life and the exceptional reception, but so far I'm discouraged about what I've read about the available custom ROMs. Do guys recommend the non developer version of the Razr Hd? I've skimmed through the Development section and it seems that even if do get that bootloader issue unlocked through the Motorola website, a LOT of people seem to struggle with the basics such as Wifi and Camera CM10. I haven't bought the phone yet, but if i'm not going to have these two working perfectly then this is not the device for me. What do you guys think? Is this worth it? are there any satisfied fans who have the non developer edition ?