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Should I buy the Xoom?

I'm considering to buy a Motorola Xoom (which is quite expensive here in Brazil) and would like to know the opinion of you guys who already own one.
Is it ready for prime time? Should I wait for other tablets? What are the cons of the Xoom?
I read that the SD card slot is not working. Why release a product that doesn't work out of the box?
I own a Motorola Milestone and I'm a little disappointed with it (took Motorola lots of time to release Froyo for it and it is far slower than before). I had to install another rom to get it to work properly (not perfect, but better than the original). That is why I'm a little afraid from buying from them again.
Any opinion/suggestion/advice would be helpful

the xoom is guarnteed to get the updates faster....the closest thing to a nexus tablet. It got updates the day it came out. The Samsung tab 10.1 is also good

It depends on how bad you need one. Overall it's a good product. Even with 3.1 it's still pretty buggy and updates aren't coming as fast as I'd like. If you can wait, they'll just get cheaper and more reliable.
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What kinds of bugs there are? And what about the SD slot, is it working?

It is by far the best tablet out there. You should buy one, I have one and love it!

It really depends on you as a person. I love my xoom. But if you want something that isn't going to require a bit of work on your part, I doubt you should get an android tablet. Honeycomb is still new and really is an acquired feel. It's most certainly not for the average user. But out of all the honeycomb tablets the xoom will get more support as it's the first released. Samsung has little to no support for anything (look how long it took them to update an official 2.2 update for galaxy s phones. And the transform). Asus transformer is said to be a little unresponsive, not to mention hard to get. Acer iconia is said to be HEAVY. Xoom screen is a little washed out. Research and pick your poison.

Stealyourface said:
It really depends on you as a person. I love my xoom. But if you want something that isn't going to require a bit of work on your part, I doubt you should get an android tablet. Honeycomb is still new and really is an acquired feel. It's most certainly not for the average user. But out of all the honeycomb tablets the xoom will get more support as it's the first released. Samsung has little to no support for anything (look how long it took them to update an official 2.2 update for galaxy s phones. And the transform). Asus transformer is said to be a little unresponsive, not to mention hard to get. Acer iconia is said to be HEAVY. Xoom screen is a little washed out. Research and pick your poison.
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One of the things I get worried about are the updates, since it took Motorola a long time to release 2.2 to Milestone too. They only seem to care about the US market, because the Droid received the update long before and it is almost the same phone.
But it was said during this year's Google I/O that they will be working with some brands (including Motorola) to release updates quickly for many months after the launch of the products.
And what about the SD card slot? Is it working?

this is the flagship honeycomb so this will get the update assuming Google comes up with one.
re SD card, there is already a workaround. just requires a bit of tinkering on your part.
I love my xoom.
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I don't mind having to tinker with it to make it work, but seems strange that it does not work out of the box. Do you know if it is an Android limitation or if it is Motorola's fault?

Either the Xoom or Tab 10.1. The xoom gets updates faster, the tab is lighter/thinner.

rvr777 said:
I don't mind having to tinker with it to make it work, but seems strange that it does not work out of the box. Do you know if it is an Android limitation or if it is Motorola's fault?
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Motorola and Google's fault. Acer iconia, Samsung Galaxy Tab, and Asus Transformer have working slots out the box (because they made their own drivers for it). Motorola/Google didn't make the SD slot drivers for the xoom yet.

Well if the rumor is true about the galaxy tab not having and SD card slot then I am going to buy the xoom. Its been out a while now anybody know where to find some good deals on it
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What budget Android Tablet uk

Hi,
I am an avaid htc desire fan and think I am looking for a android tablet. I really like the apps available to me on the htc, and do a bit of app development/rom. What I really would like is a cheap android tablet, that runs everything that the htc desire has (I could probably lose telephony). It would have to be possible to root the tablet, and flash it.
I would only need a modest size touch screen, but a camera/vid would be good. Oh yes if possible it must have a reasonable battery life also.
Does such a device exist (yet)? If not whats the nearest available. I have looked around the internet but have never really been convinced that the reviews are that good. I know there are real fellow nerd/techyheads here so I would value your ideas.
I have no hands on experience of a tablet at all.

Kindle fire.
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Thanks,
Thats given me at least something to focus on.

I've picked up a couple of 'Scroll Essentials' 7" tablets for the kids for xmas, running vanilla 2.3
omfg they're slow! Think i need to wait until some custom roms are around.
Can't really moan for 70 quid though!

You could search Ebay for a cheap used tablet .

Which tablets are rootable
Hi All,
thanks for the responses to date, but im still confused. Are tablets generally rootable, if so what methods are available?
I can find little info on rooting them. I have heard that the kindle fire is rootable, but
thanks
I would really preffere a rooted tabled with a camera/vid device.

[Q] [ZOOM 2] What ROMs work with MZ616?

I just got a Xoom 2 MZ616 (WiFi & 3G) and I'm wondering what ROMs are compatible.
I'm going to root using Dan Rosenburg's method, hopefully that works.
I'm looking at trying either ICS 2.0.0 by Team EOS or ICS 4.0.4 AOKP, but I don't understand whether I need a Wingray, Stingray, _cdma or _everest build. Can someone please help?

Nothing will work.
You can root your xoom 2 but it's bootloader is still locked.
So you CANNOT install any roms.

no recovery for xyboard and xoom 2

I also have a xoom 2 and this is kind of disappointing, not to mention the fact that it shipped with honeycomb.
Brand new device, fresh out of the oven with a deprecated os. Nice move Motorola.
Guess will have to wait it out 'till Motorola ships ICS for xoom 2 in never-ever-land.

Unfortunately I think from now on I would by devices that already have soaked into the market and have development... Sad to say but we can't rely on manufacturers
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Yeah as they all said, custom ROM's or custom recoveries do not work at all. Maybe one day in the future when Motorola decides to be nice and unlock the bootloader. But for now hang in there with Motorola Honeycomb as its not all that bad.

luke.arran said:
Yeah as they all said, custom ROM's or custom recoveries do not work at all. Maybe one day in the future when Motorola decides to be nice and unlock the bootloader. But for now hang in there with Motorola Honeycomb as its not all that bad.
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It's not all that good either lol...although mine is more bearable now I'm using ADW launcher.
As for the bootloader, there's plenty of debate/shouting/general aggression towards Motorola on the Motorola Xoom 2 forums...surely they can't ignore all these complaints? I'm sure that's what happened with the Experia X10 back in the day.
IG =]

I wish I'd researched this before buying. I just took it for granted that I'd be able to root and flash a custom ROM.
Ah well, live and learn and all that I'm very happy with it as-is (rooted w/ADW Launcher) but I eagerly await ICS in some form or other.

What about us who bought the xoom2 through a carrier are we now not only waiting for Motorola to hurry with our ICS but also for the carriers to add their crap too?

Xalies said:
What about us who bought the xoom2 through a carrier are we now not only waiting for Motorola to hurry with our ICS but also for the carriers to add their crap too?
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That will be the case

does anyone have the official SBF file?
i found nothing about this

nothing for xyboard and xoom2
no fastboot files
no sbf
no custom recovery
we only have root

I complained to Motorola about their **** service to customers, I was close to buying the Galaxy 10.1 and wished I had, the Xoom 2 is pretty crap always crashes and should be on 4.0.2 at least..... I'll never buy a motorola product again, they were **** 5 years ago and they are still **** now.
Roll on windows 8 tab!

Deejaykeen said:
I complained to Motorola about their **** service to customers, I was close to buying the Galaxy 10.1 and wished I had, the Xoom 2 is pretty crap always crashes and should be on 4.0.2 at least..... I'll never buy a motorola product again, they were **** 5 years ago and they are still **** now.
Roll on windows 8 tab!
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My unit was updated last november to version 4.0.4.
So far, so good.
But seems that there won't be anymore updates from Motorola to Xoom2/Xyboard tablets.

3a4yI7aTiY said:
no recovery for xyboard and xoom 2
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Recovery works with Safestrap 3.12 for Xoom2.
Fastbootfiles also exist
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What custom ROMs can be installed on MZ616?

Leak of ICS ChinaRetail

I didn't post download link.
Because its for ME865 china ,but seems the last test version.
fastboot-p3_edison-edison-user-4.0.4--10273930-release-keys-ChinaRetail-CN_chn.tar.gz
Sent from my ME865 using xda premium

dickluo said:
I didn't post download link.
Because its for ME865 china ,but seems the last test version.
fastboot-p3_edison-edison-user-4.0.4--10273930-release-keys-ChinaRetail-CN_chn.tar.gz
Sent from my ME865 using xda premium
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please do link
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I second lkrasner. Any leak could potentially be beneficial, and we won't know until we check.

http://115.com/file/c25msn57#fastbo...273930-release-keys-ChinaRetail-CN-chn.tar.gz (hit the green button to download, it will be pretty slow)
It's an fxz (how they find these things I have no clue). Don't even think about flashing it though. If the international MB865 ICS leaks haven't helped us then I don't think this will be of any help either :\

So, since I'm essentially clueless on the actual coding and development aspects of this type of stuff - I'm no stranger to flashing ROMs and testing them out, been doing that for almost a decade now and still doing it between several devices (Axim X50v/X51v, HP iPAQs, Nexus S, Galaxy S, and now my Atrix 2) - but I don't understand what the actual problem is with this ROM with respect to the AT&T model of the Atrix 2.
I'm going to guess there's something going on with the Chinese/international leaked ROMs that will completely bork/hose/obliterate the AT&T model if I or anyone else attempts to install it, perhaps even permanently bricking it so...
Obviously I'm not about to try it myself, I'll leave that to the more talented folks around here already working on trying to get ICS for all of us. The Atrix 2 is such a damned nice device from the hardware perspective, and yes I'd love to get ICS on it (I know Motorola is working on it but as usual they're so tight-lipped about everything we're never going to know when it'll be available until it actually is, Cheesecake or not...), and now with having messed around with Jelly Bean on the Nexus S for a few hours - wasn't great but it was noticeably "butter" smooth as they're claiming - that gives me very high hopes that ICS will make an appearance on the Atrix 2 soon.
Come on, Motorola, if you can't get talented people to get this done, there's a bunch of people here on XDA that would do it practically for free just to get it done once and for all (not saying they wouldn't like to be compensated, obviously, maybe a free Droid RAZR MAXX or whatever for their efforts).
Yah, I know, Motorola could care less about this phone already, it's such a shame that this "disposable society" is what it is. Hell, I still use my Dell Axim X51v almost daily, and it's close to 7+ years old now, still running a custom Windows Mobile 6.5 from LennySH... I don't believe hardware is "useless" until the moment it actually doesn't work anymore, at all, totally hopelessly bricked or dead.
I'm impatient and I know it, so are most of you reading this.
If I thought a petition would help Motorola just skip ICS completely and jump right to Jelly Bean for the Atrix 2 I'd start one, but obviously that's just a waste of time. Sad we'll most likely never see Jelly Bean on the Atrix 2 officially 'cause it most certainly is a device that could manage it (minus a few aspects like NFC and whatever).
Bleh... just rambling, sorry. But I really would like to get some kind of basis for why the Chinese leaked ROMs are a no-no on the AT&T model, if anyone can spare a few minutes to explain, and be as thorough as you like as I'm all about details.
Thanks...

br0adband said:
So, since I'm essentially clueless on the actual coding and development aspects of this type of stuff - I'm no stranger to flashing ROMs and testing them out, been doing that for almost a decade now and still doing it between several devices (Axim X50v/X51v, HP iPAQs, Nexus S, Galaxy S, and now my Atrix 2) - but I don't understand what the actual problem is with this ROM with respect to the AT&T model of the Atrix 2.
I'm going to guess there's something going on with the Chinese/international leaked ROMs that will completely bork/hose/obliterate the AT&T model if I or anyone else attempts to install it, perhaps even permanently bricking it so...
Obviously I'm not about to try it myself, I'll leave that to the more talented folks around here already working on trying to get ICS for all of us. The Atrix 2 is such a damned nice device from the hardware perspective, and yes I'd love to get ICS on it (I know Motorola is working on it but as usual they're so tight-lipped about everything we're never going to know when it'll be available until it actually is, Cheesecake or not...), and now with having messed around with Jelly Bean on the Nexus S for a few hours - wasn't great but it was noticeably "butter" smooth as they're claiming - that gives me very high hopes that ICS will make an appearance on the Atrix 2 soon.
Come on, Motorola, if you can't get talented people to get this done, there's a bunch of people here on XDA that would do it practically for free just to get it done once and for all (not saying they wouldn't like to be compensated, obviously, maybe a free Droid RAZR MAXX or whatever for their efforts).
Yah, I know, Motorola could care less about this phone already, it's such a shame that this "disposable society" is what it is. Hell, I still use my Dell Axim X51v almost daily, and it's close to 7+ years old now, still running a custom Windows Mobile 6.5 from LennySH... I don't believe hardware is "useless" until the moment it actually doesn't work anymore, at all, totally hopelessly bricked or dead.
I'm impatient and I know it, so are most of you reading this.
If I thought a petition would help Motorola just skip ICS completely and jump right to Jelly Bean for the Atrix 2 I'd start one, but obviously that's just a waste of time. Sad we'll most likely never see Jelly Bean on the Atrix 2 officially 'cause it most certainly is a device that could manage it (minus a few aspects like NFC and whatever).
Bleh... just rambling, sorry. But I really would like to get some kind of basis for why the Chinese leaked ROMs are a no-no on the AT&T model, if anyone can spare a few minutes to explain, and be as thorough as you like as I'm all about details.
Thanks...
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The ME865 (the Chinese version of the atrix2), has different hardware in it. There are also 3 slightly different versions of the MB865 (also the atrix2)... confused yet....
What it means is that the if you own a US AT&T version, you can not flash any of the international versions of the firmware, because there are slight hardware differences in all of the versions, and the AT&T US version has a whole different radio on top of the different wifi, gps, and GSM/GPRS/UMTA&S chipsets.

Well, that pretty much covers it.
I really do love this device, it's got an awesome form factor, feels fantastic in the hand, same screen size (diagonal) as my beloved HTC HD2 which I don't have anymore (but yes I'll get another one someday just 'cause it's the baddest portable device ever made for enthusiasts). Great cameras, there's really nothing to dislike about it so far, at least to me. Still on the lookout for a Lapdock as well (if my research has been accurate, I can use the original Atrix Lapdock with the Atrix 2 and a small mod of flipping the connectors on the Lapdock around - I hope I'm correct in that).
But ICS would definitely be nice to get, and soon. It's just a shame that Motorola Mobility is so far behind the curve with things. I had hoped that Google's acquisition of them might improve the situation but, with Google's announcement they were buying but leaving them alone to keep on doing what they've been doing, that basically nipped that hope right in the bud.
Anyway, thanks for the answer.

[Q] Some basics I need covered :)

Hi,
So I'm new to Android, and I've only had a Nexus 7 for a week (I sold it) which I rooted and had some custom roms for.
I wanted the Xperia Z, but it's shape is too square and thus bulky. I like that this Razr HD is a bit water resistant, has excellent battery, the keflav back, and is a less cumbersome size.
But- i'm concerned as this device isn't one of the more popular. Does this mean i will have to wait much longer for upgrades even if rooted? And less support in future? could some apps not run/be designed for this device?
Basically- Im someone who keeps their phone for ages. Im still using a jailbroken 3GS happily. As much as i dont like apple- its good that i can always run the latest OS...
Just wanted thoughts on all this. Cheers

ycon said:
Hi,
So I'm new to Android, and I've only had a Nexus 7 for a week (I sold it) which I rooted and had some custom roms for.
I wanted the Xperia Z, but it's shape is too square and thus bulky. I like that this Razr HD is a bit water resistant, has excellent battery, the keflav back, and is a less cumbersome size.
But- i'm concerned as this device isn't one of the more popular. Does this mean i will have to wait much longer for upgrades even if rooted? And less support in future? could some apps not run/be designed for this device?
Basically- Im someone who keeps their phone for ages. Im still using a jailbroken 3GS happily. As much as i dont like apple- its good that i can always run the latest OS...
Just wanted thoughts on all this. Cheers
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Official upgrades for android devices are at the whim of the manufacturer and the carrier unless we're talking about a nexus device which gets updates directly from Google. On Verizon updates typically take longer to come out due to what they say is extensive testing, but recently they've been better about it imo. Unofficial updates are governed by the amount and quality of developers on that particular device. For moto phones we have a nice core of developers that keep us up to date. Now that the newest moto phones have had their bootloaders unlocked, development has really picked up. The development scene on Android is a lot different and more complicated then the Apple side. Due to the amount of high end android devices that are released every year the development scene moves pretty quickly. That isn't to say older devices aren't dev'd for but it is a possibility to consider. In the moto world devices as far back as the droid 3 are still actively supported. Many of us started out with moto and have never left.
Don't worry about the apps. Unless the device falls really behind in the os version all apps will be supported. It's not like apple where if your phone doesn't have the latest update a third of the apps don't work. There are apps coded specifically for features only available on the latest Android version but those are very few due to people wanting to make money lol.
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Cheers for that really helpful response.
It all seems pretty good to me with app compatibility.
So- if I understand correctly, if I unlock the bootloader & root my phone, I wont have to rely on Moto/my carrier for the OS updates?
Are there any other general things I should know before saying no to more mainstream (GS4) device?
Cheers

ycon said:
Cheers for that really helpful response.
It all seems pretty good to me with app compatibility.
So- if I understand correctly, if I unlock the bootloader & root my phone, I wont have to rely on Moto/my carrier for the OS updates?
Are there any other general things I should know before saying no to more mainstream (GS4) device?
Cheers
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Yes to your first question. Technically you would only need root to stop carrier updates but none of the new roms are being developed for locked devices.
Firstly know that the HD has basically the same innards as the gs3 except with 1gb less ram and a less impressive camera. The two monster phones out/coming out right now are the gs4 and the HTC one with a new nexus hopefully out soon. The gs4 represents some of the best hardware available (with newer still coming out later this year) and will have a lot of Dev focus. Out of those 3 phones Verizon will only be getting the gs4 most likely. In terms of what phone to get I would say you need to physically handle each before making a decision. If you must be on Verizon then the gs4 would be a great choice but some people don't like the build materials and feel of the phone (similar to gs3). People sticking with moto appreciate the solid feel, excellent materials, amazing radio strength, and battery life.
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koftheworld;4080229The gs4 represents some of the best hardware available (with newer still coming out later this year) and will have a lot of Dev focus. Out of those 3 phones Verizon will only be getting the gs4 most likely. In terms of what phone to get I would say you need to physically handle each before making a decision. If you must be on Verizon then the gs4 would be a great choice but some people don't like the build materials and feel of the phone (similar to gs3). People sticking with moto appreciate the solid feel said:
Cheers for that. I am not on Verizon (I'm in Australia), I'll buy the phone unlocked.
I have had a look at the GS4, HTC One and Razr all together.
The GS4 is my favourite in terms of size, but I'd rather sacrifice the power (Quad core) for the longer battery, better call reception, stronger build, and lower price of the Razr HD.
I might jsut have to wait for the new Nexus phone to come out. I've heard Google will be subsidizing it, so the price might be right.
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