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Is captivate worth it ?

Hey guys I have xperia x10 and interested in this phone. How is this phone? Or should I wait a few weeks to get Motorola atrix or nexus s.
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I'd wait for the next round of phones that are coming out. I'd actually pass on the Atrix, simply because Motorola insists on giving it to us with an encrypted bootloader.

I would definitely not get a Captivate. given that new phones are coming out.
I would even tell myself back in September not to get a Captivate and wait for the phones that are coming out now, it's that bad.
Samsung basically stuck us with 2.1 (unless you do a custom ROM) and more or less once they sell you a phone kiss you goodbye for support for it etc.
Oh yeah, and if a phone has been known to have GPS issues, and you read an official Samsung tweet that their new update fixed GPS, don't believe it.
Stay away from anything Samsung.

Ya, I love this phone, its bad ass. But if you're looking to trade up, give it a little time and wait, this one age hardware wise pretty soon with the new ones coming out.

X10 is not a bad phone to hold on to until something you really like is released. Fyi - I love my captivate. Just disappointed in samsung. With custom roms this phone is great, imo.
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Given the state of [smart]mobile devices today, what can you really say "I'm gonna wait for ____ phone to come out and be content"?
Sure, if you're in the market for a new device you can ALWAYS say "wait for the next round", but the truth of the matter is that there aren't a lot of devices that will be relevant for 10 months. This was one of the things I sat on for months prior to actually buying the Captivate.......mobile providers don't expect you to keep your device for the full 2 years.
I would definitely NOT get a Captivate unless you plan on rooting. That being said, if you don't want to root your phone, if you just plan on living an a stock environment, why don't you just get an iPhone? I mean, what is the point of having an open-source device if you never take advantage of it?
When I was running the stock Captivate it was horrible and I would've killed someone by now if I was waiting on the carrier or manufacturer to feed me (updates). Unfortunately, that is the world we live in. I must say that (I rooted the device within a week of my purchase), I wouldn't trade my Cap in for anything else right now, not even the Atrix. It is more than capable and this is my first Android device, so its not like I'm an experienced ROM loader. I don't have any issues with GPS, calls are fine, I can clock at over 1500 running Firebird2 and Cognition 2.3 (running FroYo). The only "issue" I have is some legacy mp3's won't play (that apparently no one else has this issue) and I'm rather disappointed in the quality of the speaker (after running a few sound amplifier apps).

Skip the Captivate. If you like the sony ericsson phones, wait for the x12's. They're supposed to be out in late March/early April and they look pretty nice.

Thanks guys . You guys are the best.
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When getting an Atrix, it's cheaper to get the phone + computer combo. But why get it if you already have a laptop or tablet? great specs but I would wait a little longer for the next wave of phones.
Avoid the Captivate

WillyWonka23 said:
When getting an Atrix, it's cheaper to get the phone + computer combo. But why get it if you already have a laptop or tablet? great specs but I would wait a little longer for the next wave of phones.
Avoid the Captivate
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From what I have seen in researching the Atrix is that if you want the "laptop" dock you MUST pay for the Data Pro with Tether add-on. Otherwise you can pay the $499 just for the dock later on and will not be required to add tethering.
My problem with this setup and fee structure is that the dock is not a separate PC that uses the Atrix as an AP or external modem. You cannot use it without the Atrix docked because what you see on the screen is being generated by the phone. So what are you really tethering? Not the laptop since you are still browsing with the phone, just with an external monitor and keyboard... WTF? Do they think we are that stupid?
Don

the_ahmadzais said:
Hey guys I have xperia x10 and interested in this phone. How is this phone? Or should I wait a few weeks to get Motorola atrix or nexus s.
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I'd pass on the captivate.....the atrix comes out tomorrow and the inspire is available now.....I'd get one of those before I'd get the captivate....the inspire is insanely fast and smooth and offers the Sense experience, which is great.....and the atrix is insanely powerful.

I have a love/hate relationship with my phone.
Stock ROM is "ancient" now - and AT&T has delayed any software updates for over 6 mos. now.
Plagued with hardware issues - random shutdowns, sleeping death, charge death, corrupt internal SD Cards, and of course a non-working GPS/Compass.
To make this phone work as intended you will "HAVE" to run a custom ROM to get all of the features - that should have worked out of the box mind you - to work properly.
And.. just a personal peeve - the plastic is slick - so I would suggest getting a case. Otherwise it's like holding a greased pig.
But on the positive - the screen is gorgeous, battery life is decent, and once you get it up and running its a great device.
So... uh no I wouldn't suggest getting a Captivate.

The stock Cap is not good at all. But those haven't rooted and flashed custom Roms are missing the boat. The custom ROMS are easy to flash and open up a whole new side to the Captivate!
Mine with the kick butt Paragon rom will run rings around an iphone any day. I've had them side by side.

Johnnie5000 said:
Skip the Captivate. If you like the sony ericsson phones, wait for the x12's. They're supposed to be out in late March/early April and they look pretty nice.
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The new Sonys will be even slower than the old Samsungs, and with less nice screens to boot.
Better camera, but who cares?
Get the Atrix (out tomorrow) or wait for the SGS2 -- Super AMOLED+ dual-core with (likely) unencrypted bootloader. Hopefully the US will get Tegra2 versions for better custom kernel development.

dlwoodjr said:
From what I have seen in researching the Atrix is that if you want the "laptop" dock you MUST pay for the Data Pro with Tether add-on. Otherwise you can pay the $499 just for the dock later on and will not be required to add tethering.
My problem with this setup and fee structure is that the dock is not a separate PC that uses the Atrix as an AP or external modem. You cannot use it without the Atrix docked because what you see on the screen is being generated by the phone. So what are you really tethering? Not the laptop since you are still browsing with the phone, just with an external monitor and keyboard... WTF? Do they think we are that stupid?
Don
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Yeah I think it's all backwards. The laptop dock can't be used without the Atrix which already makes it useless most of the time. That's why I was saying you might as well get a tablet. Why use a "laptop" running off a device that is suppose to be portable. That is what a real laptop is for.

Haha yeah just get a tablet / netbook / laptop instead of that atrix laptop dock.
Anyway, I think you should just wait 'till better phones are released. But if you can't, then yeah get the captivate but be prepared to void your warranty.

Honestly, like every one has said, it depends of if you plan to run stock or not. This is my first time to root a phone and I will never go back to stock again. My cappy is super fast and does everything I could ever want. My old 3g is comparable to a pager now.
But if you want to run stock, the captivate is DEFINATELY not for you. It took me about three days to decide that 2.1 just wouldn't cut it and start doing the research about rooting and flashing.
It is a very capable phone if you're willing to put some time into it.

Is Xoom DOA?

I have a wifi xoom and although it has some great features but the force closes and the non functioning sd card (from the factory) is very annoying. I thought Moto and google would have a fix by now. The force closes make me mad. I have 15 days left to return and will do so if there is not a major update before then. I should have know better than to expect Moto to do anything right.
Here is an quote from an article in the Wall Street Journal about xoom sales.
"Global Equities analyst Trip Chowdry estimates that Motorola Mobility has manufactured between 500,000 and 800,000 Xooms, but has sold only 5 to 15 percent of them.
Best case scenario then, according to Chowdry, is that Motorola has sold 120,000 Xooms; worse case scenario, it’s sold just 25,000. Now, admittedly, that’s a very large range, and one could argue that it makes Chowdry’s estimate largely meaningless. But remember that original forecasts suggested Motorola would sell between 3 and 5 million Xooms this year and earlier this month some analysts were calling for first quarter sales of 300,000.
In other words, even Chowdry’s best case scenario is a worst case scenario. It’s just a bit less ugly."

Personally, I could care less how many have been sold. I love my Xoom and maybe I'm lucky but I haven't faced many of the problems I read about here.
As for SD card support, I'm not bothered by that either. I have no need for a SD card at this time. 32GB is plenty of storage for me.
I'm treating Honeycomb the same way I did with android 1.0. Its basically a new platform and the apps and fixes will come as more tablets hit the market.
I heard all the same jargon in the media after I pre-ordered my G1. Well look at android now.

El Daddy said:
Personally, I could care less how many have been sold. I love my Xoom and maybe I'm lucky but I haven't faced many of the problems I read about here.
As for SD card support, I'm not bothered by that either. I have no need for a SD card at this time. 32GB is plenty of storage for me.
I'm treating Honeycomb the same way I did with android 1.0. Its basically a new platform and the apps and fixes will come as more tablets hit the market.
I heard all the same jargon in the media after I pre-ordered my G1. Well look at android now.
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I feel the same way. No announcement was made as to when an update would come. I'm sure everyone knew the SD slot wasn't functioning way before they purchased the device.
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It will be DOA if we keep starting threads like "Is the XOOM DOA" and prospective customers see all these threads in search engines.
Then prospective customers start having unfounded doubts and the XOOM's demise becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy.

First of all, many of us knew that Xoom won't sell that well. This is because it's new, OS is new, hardware is new, everything about it is new and many people don't want to be lab rats. But with Moto rolling out Xoom on other networks in many countries will help sales. And we will have to wait till Thursday for Motorola to announce their earnings and see how many they sold.
Secondly, I understand the frustration of lacking SD support but I personally don't really care since I never really used my microSD on my N900.
And about force closes, like I said everything about Xoom is new and it was first to the punch. Other honeycomb tabs will have everything working, but Xoom was still first and that what counts.
I would never return mine, I would never even sell mine after Xoom2 arrives. Why? Because it is the first and maybe even one of the only "Pure Google Experience" devices that will be available.

Simple answer. No.
Sent from my Xoom the way it should be, rooted and with SD card.

Google needs to release a big Honeycomb update including one that enables the mircoSD card slot, Motorola needs to lower the price and release 16GB models and more manufactures need to release more tablets which will bring in more tablet apps. If you had your Xoom since day one like I have, you will already see the improvement in the selection of tablet apps. I hope that the microSD card slot is fixed soon though. Watching the new tablets come out with working slots is starting to make the Xoom look abandoned.
Despite this, I love my Xoom and it will get better with time. Who else has a working Barometer by the way? lol

i don't care about the sd card function cause i still have 32GB for my media. however, i have a terrible experience with my xoom's web browser ( even i tried another web browser apps like dophin...)Yes, surfing web is the main point for me to buy this tablet. Web browser is FC a lot (besides, it made my xoom rebooted once), stuck at loading pages (i have to go to app manager=> force close web browser..), Flash doesn't work properly. I never had this terrible experience with my android devices before. I understand that Honeycomb is a new OS, and it will be improved over by next updates but how can't google/motorola/ adobe make sure some basic functions work well before selling their products ?

What would have all the customers who went to buy an ipad2 have done when they got to the store and were told they would have to take a number and wait a month or more? BUY A XOOM!!! This was great timing for Moto to deliver the product but kinda sucks for the consumer at first. However, this is not the first time a company has done this. And as someone laready pointed out, if you have had the Xoom from day one you will have already seen the improvement in the app market. Also remember that the honeycomb source has not been released yet. When that happens you will see things explode here on XDA. So if you have filled up your 32g internal storage, and their just are not enough apps for you at this time and so on........return your Xoom and take a number for the ipad! (it has Netflix out of the box). If you are one of those people who just like to complain, well then I got nothing for you. Otherwise be patient and enjoy what you have. Good things WILL come to our Xoom's!!!
For the record: I have NEVER considered an ipad. And I am very happy with my Xoom!

I just don't get these type of posts. So because you hated the xoom or the wsj says it hasn't sold enough everyone else should go and return their xooms. What should I get an I pad 2? What if I want my websites to work with flash? What if I want actual multitasking? So get an I pad 2 that doesn't even have an SD slot forget when it will be activated.
Anyway, I have been happy with the xoom.
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tumbes20000 said:
I just don't get these type of posts. So because you hated the xoom or the wsj says it hasn't sold enough everyone else should go and return their xooms. What should I get an I pad 2? What if I want my websites to work with flash? What if I want actual multitasking? So get an I pad 2 that doesn't even have an SD slot forget when it will be activated.
Anyway, I have been happy with the xoom.
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i don't want to get a lot of FC on my web browser. this is the only thing i complain.

I want the Xoom to work. I do not own a single Apple product. I am not patient enough to wait months for the Xoom and Honeycomb to work. I want to be able to root and load new themes and Myn's Warm Honeycomb but Google has already said they would not release the sources code anytime soon.
If no one is buying the Xoom, the developers will not develop apps and it may never reach the point where it is a commercial success. I will stick with the Xoom if a significant upgrade comes very soon.

Everywhere I go the xoom seems to be sold out and people are constantly asking for it. It may not have that "Apple" demand but people are interested, I love mine, cant wait for some more apps and updates to come out so it will be a beast!

this post is DOA
This is the beauty of Android, It doesn't matter about the Xoom Google will keep developing 3.0 and onward.
with Apple if interest in a new product dips it dies!
Thats why clean OS's like the xoom will always win the day and thats why extra software just slows down development!
there is more sense in nonsense
remember that!

We do need a way to release frustration and these blogs are it. This is a first honeycomb version, effectively a beta. On the other hand, I feel for Motorola, as when that update comes long, they will have to spend millions double handling the already sold Xoom.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Xoom, and I can see its potential.
I am sure one of the reasons people are not buying Xooms is that thay'd rather wait until it is finished, and some more of bugs are squashed (See googles bug tracket) the SD card is one of the lesser problems.
When that happens we will be riding a steeper adoption curve that will scare apple a little.

I found that every store in the st. Louis area that carries the xoom was sold out so I had to order mine from amazon (not a big fan). So its a bit shocking to hear that sales are bad. Maybe they just didn't make enough. Maybe its been selling fine for motorola and its the market that had unrealistic expectations.
In any case, I think as more manufactures produce more honeycomb tablets the momentum will pick up just like what happened with android phones. The g1 did not exactly fly off the self when it was introduced. Hell I didn't which from blackberry until recently.
Some of this is part of being an early adopter. I mine the ipad2 is simiply a scaled up iphone so no surprise that it works well the os has been out for some time. Honeycomb is a much bigger jump for android and therefore the problems
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The crazy amount of FUD surrounding the xoom makes me wonder if there's some propaganda machine in operation.

I don't even think that the problem is the software or bugs. I think the main thing that hurt the Xoom is price. After announcing the price Motorola did not listen to consumers and they stuck with their pricing, which ultimately hurt the success of the xoom. Prime example is the Asus Transformer, they are flying of shelves, not because of the dock as much as the price.
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tumbes20000 said:
I found that every store in the st. Louis area that carries the xoom was sold out so I had to order mine from amazon (not a big fan). So its a bit shocking to hear that sales are bad. Maybe they just didn't make enough. Maybe its been selling fine for motorola and its the market that had unrealistic expectations.
In any case, I think as more manufactures produce more honeycomb tablets the momentum will pick up just like what happened with android phones. The g1 did not exactly fly off the self when it was introduced. Hell I didn't which from blackberry until recently.
Some of this is part of being an early adopter. I mine the ipad2 is simiply a scaled up iphone so no surprise that it works well the os has been out for some time. Honeycomb is a much bigger jump for android and therefore the problems
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HC is new, but overall it is still based on android. Why does it have a lot of bugs?
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From what I have seen so far ... stores are sold out, dont have accesories, (which means it is obviously selling out) and in best buy the tablets are with the computers (not with the tablets!), how are people/consumers supposed to know about it and that it is a tablet that is better than the pad when there is a big ipad2 display while the xoom is over by all the laptops and when you ask for it they take you to the zune stuff?
Oh well, and from what i have seen lately, displays are popping up, I have seen more commercials on tv, and now I hope store start stocking it to show it off.. that is the only way to sell it. I think the xoom will do just fine and as it was mentioned earlier in this thread, xoom will not die because android will not die, just wait and see
XOOM FTW!

[Q] Is the UK Xoom any less supported than the US Xoom?

Hi folks,
Ex Transformer owner here.
I'm looking for another Tablet and I think I've got it narrowed down to either the Xoom or the Galaxy Tab 10.1, the specs and price on the Tab don't look to be certain yet so I'm uncertain which I'll end up with. Price will be a big factor and that may well put the Tab out of contention.
I've never owned a Motorola of any kind and I'm wondering if a UK/Euro unit will be as well supported as the US version, i.e O/S upgrades etc. I have to say that I'm quite surprised that the SD card slot isn't functional by default, that just seems a bit strange when it's built in as standard. Is SD functionality just something that's not really required with Tablets? Is there a negative side to that?
I have a rooted HTC Desire and flash updated/tweaked rom's from time to time, I like having a change now and then although I can't say that I'm interested in overclocking at all. I can see that in time I'll probably be tempted to do something similar with a Tablet, would you say that a Euro Xoom is suitable for this?
Thanks in advance.

Xoom or galaxy?

Hi,
I am in the market for a new android tablet at the moment.
Now I have narrowed it down to 2 choices, either 10.1 galaxy tab or a motorola xoom.
I can get a brand new xoom 3g for £400, however it seems to be more around the £550 mark for a galaxy.
Now the tablet does need to be 3g and run honeycomb.
I know there has been various problems with the xoom and lack of support for it, though it will be rooted.
The only thing that is putting me off the samsung is the price tag.
I already have a pc and a top of the range phone so it's not going to be used to replace either.
Tablet weight doesn't bother me at all, neither do camera's etc. Most important is honeycomb, along with good multimedia facilities as its primary use is movies / music aswell as the use of cloud based servers.
I would also consider the asus transformer 3g if that is released any time soon.
Any advice from owners of the xoom and what they think is the better tablet would be great. Any other suggestions of comments are much appreciated.
Thanks.
Jordan
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get the 10.1, the xoom's heavy as a brick, and can be buggy

I own a xoom, but I have had some experience with the galaxy tab, or at least have gotten a feel for it, so I will give my own personal review. The xoom is indeed heavier and thicker than the galaxy tab, but it is not like it is extremely heavy or anything, it still feels reasonably light. The galaxy tab feels cheaper as it is more plastic than the xoom. The xoom does have a real quality feel because of its heavier meatal frame. They both include the same processor, and feel very fast. I have no clue about what the developing community for the galaxy tab is like, but the xooms community is very good and has a lot of work going into it. The roms for both can not be full mods though because honey comb source has not been released. The xoom has 32 gigabytes of on board storage and can be doubled with a 32 gigabyte SD card. The galaxy comes in 16 and 32 gigabyte models but has no SD card slot making developing hard since the major custom recovery clockworkmod reads and writes to an sdcard. The screen on both are nice, but the galaxy tabs is more vibrant and less flushed out than the xooms. The xoom gets updates directly from Google so you will get updates faster on a xoom than a galaxy tab, and it will be a Google stock experience, were as the galaxy has been modded with touchwiz which is supposedly not bad.Also I have never noticed the xoom be buggy, the only real problem i have ever noticed is the browser will force close every now and then, but seems to be fixed in tiamats latest rom.Honestly both are great and you will be happy with either one.
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The xoom for sure.
Because of about 10 different reasons,but the most important that the xoom is gonna get all Honeycomb updates from Google (like the Nexus one) and U won't even have to wait for the update,If there'll be Honeycomb 3.6,the xoom is sure to get it.

Ah, but the 10.1 is much newer, so its more likely to get future updates (eg 4.0 ICSW)

No, that is wrong. Neither the xoom,or the galaxy tab is the newer tablet. Rather they are competition that have a similar price range and similar over all software and hardware specs. The xoom is currently the only honeycomb tablet that Google uses for their development testing. Ice cream sandwich or android 4.0 will be developed on the xoom meaning it will get this update before the galaxy tab, and any update after that. Just wanted to throw that in.

I know 2 people who own moto xooms I would recommend the galaxy tab.
That said, from the sound of your post it is going to be a glorified ebook reader/angry birds player so I think you should go with the low price one.
I don't have personal experience with the galaxy tab 10.1 though.
so grain of salt and all that lol
Trust me d-..-b im from the webs

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Ah, but the 10.1 is much newer, so its more likely to get future updates (eg 4.0 ICSW)
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Oh,really?
I didn't know that!!
Just tell me one thing.
Which one got more updates;the HTC desire (released feb 2010) or the Nexus one (released jan 1010)?
The answer (if u don't already know it) is the Nexus one,they could hardly deliver 2.3.3 to the desire.
I know that you're gonna say that was hardware issue,but actually no,the hardware on the Desire is the same on the Nexus one (the Desire even got more RAM and memory to it).
So the idea isn't if this certain device was released later or not,the idea is if google supports it big time or not.
And the xoom being google's center of development for Honeycomb it's sure to get all Honeycomb updates (Ice cream sandwich aside).

The Hongkong version of the XOOM MZ601 and ROOT after unlocking, the built-in memory into 4G, brush afresh other version of firmware, cannot solve.. Total memory should be 24G

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No, that is wrong. Neither the xoom,or the galaxy tab is the newer tablet. Rather they are competition that have a similar price range and similar over all software and hardware specs. The xoom is currently the only honeycomb tablet that Google uses for their development testing. Ice cream sandwich or android 4.0 will be developed on the xoom meaning it will get this update before the galaxy tab, and any update after that. Just wanted to throw that in.
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Um, huh? the nexus prime is gonna be the ICSW development/flagship device.

I have the xoom. Love it. Wife loves playing angry birds on it too. IMO,build is nicer than the 10.1 and I don't think it's too heavy. I think the weight justifies its feel of sturdiness but I wouldn't mind it being lighter. If you care about modding, know that koush has a xoom. If you're fine with out of the box functionality and feel of the Tab, go with that and justify the added cost with the much nicer screen and lighter weight.
Just accept that whatever you buy now will feel inferior to tablets coming in the future but you get some insurance against obsolescence by going with the Google experience devices (currently xoom for honeycomb development) as you can expect to get updates earlier.
Then again, if you really hate Steve Jobs and company, give Sammy your support.
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Galaxy Tab 10.1 is thinner, lighter, faster...

mtmerrick said:
Um, huh? the nexus prime is gonna be the ICSW development/flagship device
You are right, icsw will not be directly developed on the xoom, but the xoom being a Google experience device means it will receive icsw pretty quickly, probably much faster than the galaxy 10.1,especially thanks to new tochwiz. Also to the reply above, the Gtab is both thinner and lighter, even if in my opinion it feels cheaper than the xoom, but it is by no means faster. Both devices contain the same gpu and CPU made by nvidia
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Thanks everyone for your replies.
Still difficult making my mind up by I am edging towards the xoom. It's going to be used as a multi media centre really (music films etc) so the cheaper one I could get will be better.
From what people are saying about the xoom and the high reviews for it it does seem like the right choice, especially being google derived for updates etc.
Thanks very much for the advice on the topic
Jordan
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jordanprudent said:
Thanks everyone for your replies.
Still difficult making my mind up by I am edging towards the xoom. It's going to be used as a multi media centre really (music films etc) so the cheaper one I could get will be better.
From what people are saying about the xoom and the high reviews for it it does seem like the right choice, especially being google derived for updates etc.
Thanks very much for the advice on the topic
Jordan
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Hi Jordan, just wondered if you got your XOOM in the end? My experience with the Samsung was unfortunately a poor one, as I fell victim to the famous lcd problem, and after three replacements I decided to cut it loose and go for the XOOM. Now I generally like Samsung products, but on this occasion I have to say that so far this seems just that little bit quicker and smoother than the sammy, and feels better built too. Ok it's a bit heavier, but reassuringly so! Plus the fact it just got a further price cut the other day (£329 now for wifi one) so it was a no brainer at that point!

I would get the Xoom on the idea it's Google's child, it'll always be in the loop for things.

I'd go for the Galaxy. The Xoom is just too heavy to be used comfortably for longer than like half an hour at a time. If you're planning to hold it for longer periods at a time, your arms will thank you for the close to 300 grams difference.
Also, the Xoom was just uncomfortable to hold with its sharp edges.
(This might just be me though)
And as for Google-relations, don't forget that Google also helped with the Galaxy. It was also the Galaxy that Google chose as a gift at the Google I/O earlier this year. And the Galaxy was first with a couple of updates earlier this year.

xoom or next motorola tablet?

so i got my mom an ipad 2 over the weekend. and seeing her use a tablet is making think that i should invest in a tablet.
haven't really played with a xoom before. but from the ipad, the ui is so smooth. i'm hoping that the xoom will be somewhat as smooth.
but functionality wise, i think the xoom is a better fit for my everyday needs. however, since the xoom is already a few months old, should i just wait for the new motorola tablet or bite the bullet and play the wait and see game?

+1 I too would like to know..
To wait for the Xoom 2? or get the Xoom?.
Will the current Xoom still be rolling with the big shots in 6 months time??

Knock Knock.... said:
+1 I too would like to know..
To wait for the Xoom 2? or get the Xoom?.
Will the current Xoom still be rolling with the big shots in 6 months time??
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I think we all expect that the original Xoom will get Ice Cream Sandwich OTA pretty soon, or it will at least be ported as any number of roms from our fabulous development team. There's no way of knowing how good or how much better any near future tablet releases will be, and while the original Xoom is by no means a one-click root machine, it has an oem unlockable bootloader and it's really pretty fast and easy to root it if you follow instructions and don't "invent" your own methods...it's actually hard (though not impossible) to brick it; that said, there's no telling what future tablets will be like...will they be locked-down or unlockable like the current (oiginal) Xoom?
The original Xoom is a fantastic device: built like a tank, really good specs, and great performance, especially with some tweaks. Some people don't like the screen, but I love mine, so no complaint there. Actually, beween the great Moray 2.2.2 Rom, the overclocked gpu kernel, and the ADW EX Launcher, I can't really ask for too much more. The ICS specs look incrementally better than Honeycomb, and new hardware is usually faster and better than older hardware, but I'm not tempted by anything else I've seen so far.
Also, would you really rather wait two-three months for something unknown to materialize or get something great to use right now?

my rule of thumb for gadgets and whatnots is not to get the 1st gen of anything because there are always kinks and other things that need to be worked on.
i think i'm going to wait for the new xoom tablet. ICS looks amazing. and if moto comes out with a new xoom with better hardware backed up with a vanilla ICS, i think that would be a clear winner.

arcticreaver said:
my rule of thumb for gadgets and whatnots is not to get the 1st gen of anything because there are always kinks and other things that need to be worked on.
i think i'm going to wait for the new xoom tablet. ICS looks amazing. and if moto comes out with a new xoom with better hardware backed up with a vanilla ICS, i think that would be a clear winner.
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If that's your rule of thumb, then by all means "to thine own self be true."

I've read that the new xoom is still going to be running a dual core processor. Im not sure how much better in performance it is to the dual core processor in the current xoom, but considering the money you'll be spending maybe that factor should be thrown in too. Besides you can always overclock the original xoom for better performance.
Also Kal-el quad cores aren't too far off either. If you've got the patience of a saint you could save your money and get one of them

looks like the new asus transformer 2 might have that new nvidia chipset - tegra 3. seeing how asus have better price point for basically the same hardware, might just go with asus for my next tablet. hopefully they don't skin their own version of honeycomb or ics for the transformer 2.

Exactly ..if anyone has been following what i said way back months ago about Asus dropping their tablet in October.Now it makes perfect sense.Asus was waiting on ICS.Now they're about to release their tablet just in time with ICS on it.If they do it..it will bye bye Xoom.Motorola better step up to the plate!!!

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/asus-jonney-shih-unveils-transformer-2-at-asiad/
And there we go. Release details in November. Tho it doesn't seem it'll have ics at launch

the sleek design on the tablet with the fact that it has tegra 3 quad core processor with 14 hours of life makes this #1 on my tablet wishlist.
looks like it will be a good enough netbook as well. my 1st gen macbook pro with intel processor is super slow these days.

I'm getting one.Motorola looks like they're going to drop the ball with the new XOOM. So it will be bye bye Verizon.
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If the weight is not big to you, go ahead and get it. I have one and think it is great.
Please thank me if I helped.

For me the deciding factor for considering a Xoom 2 will be if hardware/firmware showcases the new ICS digital input API so apps for scribe, annotation, and pressure sensitive drawing. I have come to use my Tiamat Xoom WiFi as an "at home" device and MoDaCo/HC-leak HTC Flyer WiFi as my "at work" slate for the often used scribe tools. Though the HTC Sense is a well done UI, I prefer vanilla Android so an ICS port will turn the Flyer in to cool 7" showcase of new input API but the new mid screen size Xoom might fit my work needs perfectly.
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