Rogers Razr Hd..do you recommend it ? - RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm big on custom ROMs and the benefits that come with them. I decided to get a Razr Maxx Hd for the supposedly amazing battery life and the exceptional reception, but so far I'm discouraged about what I've read about the available custom ROMs. Do guys recommend the non developer version of the Razr Hd? I've skimmed through the Development section and it seems that even if do get that bootloader issue unlocked through the Motorola website, a LOT of people seem to struggle with the basics such as Wifi and Camera CM10. I haven't bought the phone yet, but if i'm not going to have these two working perfectly then this is not the device for me. What do you guys think? Is this worth it? are there any satisfied fans who have the non developer edition ?

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Leak of ICS ChinaRetail

I didn't post download link.
Because its for ME865 china ,but seems the last test version.
fastboot-p3_edison-edison-user-4.0.4--10273930-release-keys-ChinaRetail-CN_chn.tar.gz
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dickluo said:
I didn't post download link.
Because its for ME865 china ,but seems the last test version.
fastboot-p3_edison-edison-user-4.0.4--10273930-release-keys-ChinaRetail-CN_chn.tar.gz
Sent from my ME865 using xda premium
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please do link
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I second lkrasner. Any leak could potentially be beneficial, and we won't know until we check.
http://115.com/file/c25msn57#fastbo...273930-release-keys-ChinaRetail-CN-chn.tar.gz (hit the green button to download, it will be pretty slow)
It's an fxz (how they find these things I have no clue). Don't even think about flashing it though. If the international MB865 ICS leaks haven't helped us then I don't think this will be of any help either :\
So, since I'm essentially clueless on the actual coding and development aspects of this type of stuff - I'm no stranger to flashing ROMs and testing them out, been doing that for almost a decade now and still doing it between several devices (Axim X50v/X51v, HP iPAQs, Nexus S, Galaxy S, and now my Atrix 2) - but I don't understand what the actual problem is with this ROM with respect to the AT&T model of the Atrix 2.
I'm going to guess there's something going on with the Chinese/international leaked ROMs that will completely bork/hose/obliterate the AT&T model if I or anyone else attempts to install it, perhaps even permanently bricking it so...
Obviously I'm not about to try it myself, I'll leave that to the more talented folks around here already working on trying to get ICS for all of us. The Atrix 2 is such a damned nice device from the hardware perspective, and yes I'd love to get ICS on it (I know Motorola is working on it but as usual they're so tight-lipped about everything we're never going to know when it'll be available until it actually is, Cheesecake or not...), and now with having messed around with Jelly Bean on the Nexus S for a few hours - wasn't great but it was noticeably "butter" smooth as they're claiming - that gives me very high hopes that ICS will make an appearance on the Atrix 2 soon.
Come on, Motorola, if you can't get talented people to get this done, there's a bunch of people here on XDA that would do it practically for free just to get it done once and for all (not saying they wouldn't like to be compensated, obviously, maybe a free Droid RAZR MAXX or whatever for their efforts).
Yah, I know, Motorola could care less about this phone already, it's such a shame that this "disposable society" is what it is. Hell, I still use my Dell Axim X51v almost daily, and it's close to 7+ years old now, still running a custom Windows Mobile 6.5 from LennySH... I don't believe hardware is "useless" until the moment it actually doesn't work anymore, at all, totally hopelessly bricked or dead.
I'm impatient and I know it, so are most of you reading this.
If I thought a petition would help Motorola just skip ICS completely and jump right to Jelly Bean for the Atrix 2 I'd start one, but obviously that's just a waste of time. Sad we'll most likely never see Jelly Bean on the Atrix 2 officially 'cause it most certainly is a device that could manage it (minus a few aspects like NFC and whatever).
Bleh... just rambling, sorry. But I really would like to get some kind of basis for why the Chinese leaked ROMs are a no-no on the AT&T model, if anyone can spare a few minutes to explain, and be as thorough as you like as I'm all about details.
Thanks...
br0adband said:
So, since I'm essentially clueless on the actual coding and development aspects of this type of stuff - I'm no stranger to flashing ROMs and testing them out, been doing that for almost a decade now and still doing it between several devices (Axim X50v/X51v, HP iPAQs, Nexus S, Galaxy S, and now my Atrix 2) - but I don't understand what the actual problem is with this ROM with respect to the AT&T model of the Atrix 2.
I'm going to guess there's something going on with the Chinese/international leaked ROMs that will completely bork/hose/obliterate the AT&T model if I or anyone else attempts to install it, perhaps even permanently bricking it so...
Obviously I'm not about to try it myself, I'll leave that to the more talented folks around here already working on trying to get ICS for all of us. The Atrix 2 is such a damned nice device from the hardware perspective, and yes I'd love to get ICS on it (I know Motorola is working on it but as usual they're so tight-lipped about everything we're never going to know when it'll be available until it actually is, Cheesecake or not...), and now with having messed around with Jelly Bean on the Nexus S for a few hours - wasn't great but it was noticeably "butter" smooth as they're claiming - that gives me very high hopes that ICS will make an appearance on the Atrix 2 soon.
Come on, Motorola, if you can't get talented people to get this done, there's a bunch of people here on XDA that would do it practically for free just to get it done once and for all (not saying they wouldn't like to be compensated, obviously, maybe a free Droid RAZR MAXX or whatever for their efforts).
Yah, I know, Motorola could care less about this phone already, it's such a shame that this "disposable society" is what it is. Hell, I still use my Dell Axim X51v almost daily, and it's close to 7+ years old now, still running a custom Windows Mobile 6.5 from LennySH... I don't believe hardware is "useless" until the moment it actually doesn't work anymore, at all, totally hopelessly bricked or dead.
I'm impatient and I know it, so are most of you reading this.
If I thought a petition would help Motorola just skip ICS completely and jump right to Jelly Bean for the Atrix 2 I'd start one, but obviously that's just a waste of time. Sad we'll most likely never see Jelly Bean on the Atrix 2 officially 'cause it most certainly is a device that could manage it (minus a few aspects like NFC and whatever).
Bleh... just rambling, sorry. But I really would like to get some kind of basis for why the Chinese leaked ROMs are a no-no on the AT&T model, if anyone can spare a few minutes to explain, and be as thorough as you like as I'm all about details.
Thanks...
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The ME865 (the Chinese version of the atrix2), has different hardware in it. There are also 3 slightly different versions of the MB865 (also the atrix2)... confused yet....
What it means is that the if you own a US AT&T version, you can not flash any of the international versions of the firmware, because there are slight hardware differences in all of the versions, and the AT&T US version has a whole different radio on top of the different wifi, gps, and GSM/GPRS/UMTA&S chipsets.
Well, that pretty much covers it.
I really do love this device, it's got an awesome form factor, feels fantastic in the hand, same screen size (diagonal) as my beloved HTC HD2 which I don't have anymore (but yes I'll get another one someday just 'cause it's the baddest portable device ever made for enthusiasts). Great cameras, there's really nothing to dislike about it so far, at least to me. Still on the lookout for a Lapdock as well (if my research has been accurate, I can use the original Atrix Lapdock with the Atrix 2 and a small mod of flipping the connectors on the Lapdock around - I hope I'm correct in that).
But ICS would definitely be nice to get, and soon. It's just a shame that Motorola Mobility is so far behind the curve with things. I had hoped that Google's acquisition of them might improve the situation but, with Google's announcement they were buying but leaving them alone to keep on doing what they've been doing, that basically nipped that hope right in the bud.
Anyway, thanks for the answer.

[Q] Cyanogenmod Question

Noob questions:
Can someone explain to me what it is? I heard about it for the longest time, but never cared enough to check into it. Is it just a super popular ROM? Do they have it for several phone models?
Before I got the Razr HD I had the droid X and droid X2, I was super into ROMs and all that crap. I would like to mess around with roms on the HD, their still aren't any out yet though right? I think CM10 is the most recent Cyanogenmod version, will this be available for the HD? Why is CM so popular?
Thanks for the info!
thibaulb said:
Noob questions:
Can someone explain to me what it is? I heard about it for the longest time, but never cared enough to check into it. Is it just a super popular ROM? Do they have it for several phone models?
Before I got the Razr HD I had the droid X and droid X2, I was super into ROMs and all that crap. I would like to mess around with roms on the HD, their still aren't any out yet though right? I think CM10 is the most recent Cyanogenmod version, will this be available for the HD? Why is CM so popular?
Thanks for the info!
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Start here: http://www.cyanogenmod.org/ There are very alpha roms available for both the XT925 and XT926 Razr HD already. Check the Development forum for details. Cyanogen is available for a ton of different phones, and have a lot of talented programmers giving up their free time to adopt to different hardware.

[Q] Some basics I need covered :)

Hi,
So I'm new to Android, and I've only had a Nexus 7 for a week (I sold it) which I rooted and had some custom roms for.
I wanted the Xperia Z, but it's shape is too square and thus bulky. I like that this Razr HD is a bit water resistant, has excellent battery, the keflav back, and is a less cumbersome size.
But- i'm concerned as this device isn't one of the more popular. Does this mean i will have to wait much longer for upgrades even if rooted? And less support in future? could some apps not run/be designed for this device?
Basically- Im someone who keeps their phone for ages. Im still using a jailbroken 3GS happily. As much as i dont like apple- its good that i can always run the latest OS...
Just wanted thoughts on all this. Cheers
ycon said:
Hi,
So I'm new to Android, and I've only had a Nexus 7 for a week (I sold it) which I rooted and had some custom roms for.
I wanted the Xperia Z, but it's shape is too square and thus bulky. I like that this Razr HD is a bit water resistant, has excellent battery, the keflav back, and is a less cumbersome size.
But- i'm concerned as this device isn't one of the more popular. Does this mean i will have to wait much longer for upgrades even if rooted? And less support in future? could some apps not run/be designed for this device?
Basically- Im someone who keeps their phone for ages. Im still using a jailbroken 3GS happily. As much as i dont like apple- its good that i can always run the latest OS...
Just wanted thoughts on all this. Cheers
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Official upgrades for android devices are at the whim of the manufacturer and the carrier unless we're talking about a nexus device which gets updates directly from Google. On Verizon updates typically take longer to come out due to what they say is extensive testing, but recently they've been better about it imo. Unofficial updates are governed by the amount and quality of developers on that particular device. For moto phones we have a nice core of developers that keep us up to date. Now that the newest moto phones have had their bootloaders unlocked, development has really picked up. The development scene on Android is a lot different and more complicated then the Apple side. Due to the amount of high end android devices that are released every year the development scene moves pretty quickly. That isn't to say older devices aren't dev'd for but it is a possibility to consider. In the moto world devices as far back as the droid 3 are still actively supported. Many of us started out with moto and have never left.
Don't worry about the apps. Unless the device falls really behind in the os version all apps will be supported. It's not like apple where if your phone doesn't have the latest update a third of the apps don't work. There are apps coded specifically for features only available on the latest Android version but those are very few due to people wanting to make money lol.
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Cheers for that really helpful response.
It all seems pretty good to me with app compatibility.
So- if I understand correctly, if I unlock the bootloader & root my phone, I wont have to rely on Moto/my carrier for the OS updates?
Are there any other general things I should know before saying no to more mainstream (GS4) device?
Cheers
ycon said:
Cheers for that really helpful response.
It all seems pretty good to me with app compatibility.
So- if I understand correctly, if I unlock the bootloader & root my phone, I wont have to rely on Moto/my carrier for the OS updates?
Are there any other general things I should know before saying no to more mainstream (GS4) device?
Cheers
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Yes to your first question. Technically you would only need root to stop carrier updates but none of the new roms are being developed for locked devices.
Firstly know that the HD has basically the same innards as the gs3 except with 1gb less ram and a less impressive camera. The two monster phones out/coming out right now are the gs4 and the HTC one with a new nexus hopefully out soon. The gs4 represents some of the best hardware available (with newer still coming out later this year) and will have a lot of Dev focus. Out of those 3 phones Verizon will only be getting the gs4 most likely. In terms of what phone to get I would say you need to physically handle each before making a decision. If you must be on Verizon then the gs4 would be a great choice but some people don't like the build materials and feel of the phone (similar to gs3). People sticking with moto appreciate the solid feel, excellent materials, amazing radio strength, and battery life.
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koftheworld;4080229The gs4 represents some of the best hardware available (with newer still coming out later this year) and will have a lot of Dev focus. Out of those 3 phones Verizon will only be getting the gs4 most likely. In terms of what phone to get I would say you need to physically handle each before making a decision. If you must be on Verizon then the gs4 would be a great choice but some people don't like the build materials and feel of the phone (similar to gs3). People sticking with moto appreciate the solid feel said:
Cheers for that. I am not on Verizon (I'm in Australia), I'll buy the phone unlocked.
I have had a look at the GS4, HTC One and Razr all together.
The GS4 is my favourite in terms of size, but I'd rather sacrifice the power (Quad core) for the longer battery, better call reception, stronger build, and lower price of the Razr HD.
I might jsut have to wait for the new Nexus phone to come out. I've heard Google will be subsidizing it, so the price might be right.
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[Q] Droid Razr MAXX HD

I apologize if I am asking a previously asked question, but i have searched for a solid answer for way too long, but I have a multipart question so here I go. I am looking for a rom that is compatible with the RAZR Maxx HD but all the roms only say RAZR HD, RAZR or RAZR M, I know there are literally like 20 variations of the Razr, but I still figured an attempt to list all known models that said rom is compatible for would be listed, or is it general knowledge that if its compatible for, say the RAZR HD it will be compatible with all RAZR phones, but the RAZR rom might not be compatible with HD, etc. I am really just curious as I would prefer to not trial and error right now, as a bricked phone would not be fun. But any knowledge in this area would be greatly appreciated, as I genuinely love to learn this kind of stuff. I used GooManager to search for roms but it only pulled up RAGEHD.zip RAGEHD2.zip and Paragon Maxximus, which as confusing as this is, on the Goo site, RAGEHD.zip was updated after RAGEHD2, so I am not sure which rage is the newer version, but on the developers forum, it says he is up to V3.2 which is only under RAZR on the Goo website, and then from what I have seen on these forums, I have seen tons of other ROMS listed but I almost never see them specifically listed for the RAZR maxx HD which worries me a little, so the more I have tried to research the more confused I am getting. Anyways, I am looking for a mostly preformance increase, though anything extra and in depth would be cool too, thanks in advance for any help.
Don't worry about it. The Maxx HD is the same as the RAZR HD aside from being slightly thicker to accommodate the bigger battery. Any ROM that's marked as compatible with the RAZR HD will work with the Maxx. The main thing to pay attention to is that they have the same model number (xt926 for the Verizon one).
As for ROMs, GooManager will only pull up a few if you have it just browse for compatible ones. Not sure if this is something devs need to set on their side, but there's quite a few others in the repository if you browse all devs and manually find ones who have been working on the RAZR HD. mikeyinid has an AOKP port, for example. Just look around the forums here or on droidrzr.com and you'll find lots of options.

New Device Questions

I am nearing the end of my contract with Sprint and will be going to Verizon. I have moved to a new area and that is who has the best local coverage. That said, I have a couple questions before I buy a new device.
First. I have always liked Motorola devices. They seem to have the best reception and physical build. Do the current Moto phones still have an unlockable bootloader? As with my previous device (Photon 4G), it will only be a matter of days before I will unlock, root, install a custom recovery, and flash a custom ROM. Are there any recommendations or things to look out for?
Second is battery life and features. What is good as far as Moto is concerned?
And finally. I have been eyeing the Samsung Galaxy S4. Is it a good device? The main thing for me is reception and I have heard that Samsung's radios are not always the best. A phone that has a great camera and is very customizable by different ROMs doesn't mean a whole lot when reception is poor when you are in an area where coverage is excellent.
If I were to choose a non-Moto device it would be the GS4. What does everyone think?
Anyone?
FernBch said:
I am nearing the end of my contract with Sprint and will be going to Verizon. I have moved to a new area and that is who has the best local coverage. That said, I have a couple questions before I buy a new device.
First. I have always liked Motorola devices. They seem to have the best reception and physical build. Do the current Moto phones still have an unlockable bootloader? As with my previous device (Photon 4G), it will only be a matter of days before I will unlock, root, install a custom recovery, and flash a custom ROM. Are there any recommendations or things to look out for?
Second is battery life and features. What is good as far as Moto is concerned?
And finally. I have been eyeing the Samsung Galaxy S4. Is it a good device? The main thing for me is reception and I have heard that Samsung's radios are not always the best. A phone that has a great camera and is very customizable by different ROMs doesn't mean a whole lot when reception is poor when you are in an area where coverage is excellent.
If I were to choose a non-Moto device it would be the GS4. What does everyone think?
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Not sure about the unlockable bootloader, but as for battery life Motorola has a host of phones that have great battery life. I think you have to get more specific on what Moto device you want. The GS4 is a good phone however, touchwiz makes it lag a lot.
The thing is I'm not sure what I want, but being able to run Cyanogenmod is high on the list. I currently use a Motorola Photon 4G running CM10.
I guess I need to figure out what can and can't be unlocked. From what I have read that could be the trick as Verizon has most things locked down fairly tight. I was hoping that someone in the community could help there.
Yeah I read about how Verizon does things. I think the best thing you can do right now is get a pool of devices your interested in and head on over to their respective forums because you'll get answers in much more detail.
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