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Hey everyone, I've had an OG Droid since Jan 1. 2010, and just upgraded to the Thunderbolt, I love it! Anyways, my name's Wes, and I need to build up a few posts before I can write in the development threads. So here's my tidbit of advice, if you happen to be on a family plan or have limited available minutes, you can combine GV+Sipdroid+GVDialer to make free calls over wifi AND 3g/4g. This is covered on the internet all over the place, but I had to research a ton before getting it to work on my droid because I found that many guides out there were from back in the day when google hadn't made things so easy to set up. Now that a lot of us have 4g, call quality and connection will be very consistent. How it works (confusing i know!): free VoIP #'s are available but only allow free incoming calls, so google makes them all in coming. GV dialer uses the internet instead of minutes to tell google voice to dial your desired call out #, then google voice sends the call to you as an incoming call. Google then lets you reroute that incoming call to your random DID # from ipcomms.net, and BOOM, a free "outgoing" incoming call. So in a quick nutshell, here's what you do.
Get a google voice #, download google voice app to your phone
Download GV Dialer from the market (paid app, maybe 2 bucks or something i forget)
Download Sipdroid from the market (not sipdroid + Showmee)
Then visit ipcomms.net and get the "free DID" by registering. Once you get the email with your free did, open the document with your info and jot down your username and password. (i think they're both 10 digits, you can't change this password either)
Open sipdroid, and hit Menu>Settings,SIPAccount#1, then for username and password enter what you found in the step above. For "Server or Proxy" enter "sipconnect.ipcomms.net"
Scroll down and you can adjust whether you want it to connect over 3g(4g works also) and/or WIFI, Edge
if it's working, you'll see a green light in your notifications bar, meaning your DID # is ready to receive free calls, but no one knows that #, so...
IMPORTANT: navigate to google.com/voice on your computer, login with your credentials, then go to to settings (top right corner) > Phones tab, then click "add another phone" Enter you're 10 digit ipcomms #, then click call to verify(make sure green light is on). You will get a call on the sipdroid app, slide to answer, then enter the code google gave you in your web browser on your computer to activate (if no keypad is showing, hit menu button and you can get to it during the call)
Once this is done and your phone is added, make sure calls to your voice account are set to forward calls to you ipcomms number.
Finally, open Gv dialer, login, go to its settings, and click "default phone to ring," after a moment you'll be given the option to select your ipcomms #, click that. YOU'RE DONE!
To make a call with VoIP, open gizmo(make sure you've got green light), then on your phone open GV dialer, dial the number you want, click "connect with google voice", wait for the internet to tell google to call the number and call your ipcomms # back, and voila, you get an incoming call, answer it, and you'll hear the call connecting and starting to ring.
I wrote this in about 10 minutes so if you have any questions of if anything sounds wrong or I made typos lemme know, now i'm going back to this VCU Kansas game for a bit. Hopefully someone out there finds this useful.
You can do something like this with Fring as well, right ?
solidunit said:
You can do something like this with Fring as well, right ?
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Yes.
Under Sipdroid's description in market: "Being open source, Sipdroid has often been cloned appearing under names such as Guava, aDIP, Fritz!App,..."
You can actually do it without Sipdroid on phones with Gingerbread (its built into the settings you just enter your ipcomms info) but we don't have it yet, and the gingerbread version has very few adjustable settings.
there are also alternatives to GV dialer as well as sites that offer free DID numbers for inbound calls, but this setup has worked fine for me.
I'll give it a try, thanks!
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Yup been using it to also send and receive free text. I use ipkall tho
Free us calls, not worldwide of course
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Any other sip providers working? Using Ekiga and ipkall for Gv calling,doesn't work so well on CSipSimple...... Would like to transition to another service easily as possible,and ipcomms is a bit confusing.
An easier method is to just download GV and GVoice callback. http://www.appbrain.com/app/google-voice-callback-free/com.xinlu.gvdial
I don't have sipdroid on my phone, and I can "dialout" using this with my google voice number. It shows up on the other phone as my GV # and I checked my bill for the calls (I used it for a whole day one time to see what would happen and didn't have calls on my bill for that day) and they weren't there. I tried to do the sip droid method one time, and I had a hard time getting it setup. So I just gave up. But this solution seems to work like a charm for me.
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An easier method is to just download GV and GVoice callback. http://www.appbrain.com/app/google-voice-callback-free/com.xinlu.gvdial
I don't have sipdroid on my phone, and I can "dialout" using this with my google voice number. It shows up on the other phone as my GV # and I checked my bill for the calls (I used it for a whole day one time to see what would happen and didn't have calls on my bill for that day) and they weren't there. I tried to do the sip droid method one time, and I had a hard time getting it setup. So I just gave up. But this solution seems to work like a charm for me.
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+1 but this only works if you have F&F and have a number to burn to put in there. Don't use it much but when calling my bud in canada or maybe a conference call i use it and it works just swell....on an incredible though, I"m still a wannabe
I got a free number from goog. Sorry, I'm bad with acronyms, what does F&F stand for?
Sipdroid thing was annoying when I tried it. I really prefer gv callback. I have it set up to ask me every time. Its pretty sweet.
so how exactly do you do this without sipdroid? I've got gv callback and its like the same as gv dialer asks which number i want to forward to, you're saying you can forward to google voice somehow? gv callback has option to start sipdroid before callback, so i would assume i still need something to handle the call received? Do I use google talk as callback number?
Do you have a google voice number? If not, go get one. It's free. Use you're regular gmail account to set it up. Then download goog voice also. There will be an option to use GV as the call back number. (also under the online GV settings you have to link you're mobile to the GV #). last, then you just set it to ask you every time to call you back, then when you go to call someone it will give you the option to use GV or not. If still need help I'll pm you my phone.
i have a google voice number, and the google voice app already. what do you mean forward to your GV number? Under google voice app there are no forwarding settings.
you mean you forward to your mobile number on google voice online settings, as in your verizon number? And it doesn't charge you any minutes? I'm pretty sure it still counts as using your minutes, you checked exactly when you called and compared it to the dates and times on your bill?
Gv callback requires friends and family to be of any benefit. Sipdroid allows you to make calls over your data connection, uses no minutes. It lags heavily though, not recommended if you have friends and family at your disposal.
edit, see my post to shaddix
I'm sorry, I've been mistaken. Somehow the actual GV app gives me the option to make voice calls. That is what i have been using. GV I downloaded but never set up. Not sure how I ended up with such a confusion. It used to just give the option to make international calls, but now you can set it up to ask everytime. I'm not yet rooted or I would take some screen shots.
I'm sorry but if you use f&f to begin with then y going thru all the hassle since f&f doesn't bill used minutes?
Sipdroid is better when you're on lte. If you are on conference calls a lot, sipdroid does help saving those minutes
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quattr0 said:
I'm sorry but if you use f&f to begin with then y going thru all the hassle since f&f doesn't bill used minutes?
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You can just use 1 f&f slot for all your calls
shaddix2 said:
You can just use 1 f&f slot for all your calls
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Ah, thank you.
Do you get free texting using only GV? I know $10/month is not a whole lot but for those that have only voice (no text plan), it will come in handy.
Has anybody here managed to get Google Voice working w/ this phone? I keep getting error messages when using the app to change my voicemail over, and the same goes if I do it manually using the *004* method
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Has anybody here managed to get Google Voice working w/ this phone? I keep getting error messages when using the app to change my voicemail over, and the same goes if I do it manually using the *004* method
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Have you actually tested it? I have it working on the original GS2 and I believe I got error messages too. When I attempted to change it in the settings, it always said the change was unsuccessful, but in actuality, it was working. I would place a test call to see it is activated. If not, try setting the voicemail back to default, then clearing data of the application (Google Voice - found in settings - applications - manage applications), and start over. You can also peruse the troubleshooting guides that Google likely provides somewhere.
@Cobalt which carrier are you with?
I figured out my problem. Bad SIM card. Voice worked, data worked, but anything involving network requests (MMI codes) didn't. Got AT&T to give me a new one. Works like a charm now.
I'm having a problem setting up my google voice number on my new Skyrocket too... Unfortunately I don't believe it's related to my SIM card as I swapped SIM's with the one from my Nexus One (which GV works fine with) and I get the same error.
When I try to configure GV and it tries to switch the voicemail service from "my carrier" to "google voice", it gets an error saying "change to new provider?" If I select yes, then I get another error that says "forwarding number change failed". The phone rings fine with I dial my GV number indicating the forwarding at GV is working fine, but if I dial out from my phone, it shows my phones number instead of the GV number meaning something in the phone isn't being configured right.
I searched on the issue and find this thread at the google voice help forum, so I know it's not just me but I can't seem to get it to work no matter what I do.
I changed my settings manually. menu>settings>call>call forwarding then edit the numbers to your gv number. This worked for me. Take note of the vm number that's in there in case this method doesn't work for you.
That works fine for the incoming voicemail, but the outgoing calls still show up on the receiving phone as my cell phone's number instead of my google voice number.
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That works fine for the incoming voicemail, but the outgoing calls still show up on the receiving phone as my cell phone's number instead of my google voice number.
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Sorry about that.
Do your outgoing calls show up as from you GV number?
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Do your outgoing calls show up as from you GV number?
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Nope, but I don't want them to either. I just use GV for the visual voicemail.
I'm curious, is anyone else out there sharing my issue with the outgoing phone number?
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Nobody? I can't believe there aren't any other Google Voice users out there with the Skyrocket!
I'm sure you have, but just to rule out possibilities, is the option to use 'Google voice to make all calls' checked?
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No problem with mine. Calling and text works fine, incoming and outgoing. Didn't set it up for voicemail though.
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I'm sure you have, but just to rule out possibilities, is the option to use 'Google voice to make all calls' checked?
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Actually no, but I'm 99% sure it wasn't on my previous Nexus One either, yet it still called out from my GV number. I've tried it though and it didn't help. Thanks for the thought.
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hunterd13 said:
No problem with mine. Calling and text works fine, incoming and outgoing. Didn't set it up for voicemail though.
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Just to be clear, so when you dial someone else, their caller ID shows your GV number, NOT your cell phone number?
That is pretty odd. And you haven't modified your phone at all?
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That is pretty odd. And you haven't modified your phone at all?
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I tried installing GV stock, and also on the SkyROCKeteer ROM and get the same problem on both (as described in post 5). Get errors on installation, but incoming calls work fine and voicemails go to the GV app. But outgoing calls get received as from my cell number instead of as from my GV number.
I guess I was more asking where it's at now, if it's on stock or not. I regularly say things worded completely wrong.
Do you have visual voicemail setup? I've wondered with it being introduced with this phone if there'd be any conflicts.
So two questions to everyone, if you have the google voice app working, do you or don't you have visual voicemail? And did you have any issue getting outgoing calls to reflect your Google voice number?
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I guess I was more asking where it's at now, if it's on stock or not. I regularly say things worded completely wrong.
Do you have visual voicemail setup? I've wondered with it being introduced with this phone if there'd be any conflicts.
So two questions to everyone, if you have the google voice app working, do you or don't you have visual voicemail? And did you have any issue getting outgoing calls to reflect your Google voice number?
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At the moment I'm running the SkySTOCKeteer rom, but I installed GV bone stock within a few minutes of getting the phone and got the same errors.
No, I've never tried the visual voicemail app. I'll try freezing it with Ti Backup and see if that helps.
I've yet to see anyone claim it's fully working (including outgoing caller ID) on the skyrocket.
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Actually no, but I'm 99% sure it wasn't on my previous Nexus One either, yet it still called out from my GV number. I've tried it though and it didn't help. Thanks for the thought.
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Just to be clear, so when you dial someone else, their caller ID shows your GV number, NOT your cell phone number?
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I'm 99% sure it was. That's the way it works. I too have a Nexus One and it works that way. If you don't have either "Ask every time I make a call" or Use Google Voice to make all calls", it won't work. Simple as that.
So hopefully somebody can help me. I'm either looking for a different solution to my problem, or a fix for the solution I came up with. So here is my problem/solution:
I just got a new phone through work. I had to get a new number, but I figured now was a good time to smooth all my friends over to using my google voice number. So I set up google voice and I've been using it for calls and it works great. Now the only problem is that SMS does not. I can use the google voice app, but honestly it's pretty crappy, so I want to use the built in messaging app. Now natively I've learned that there is no way to do that without using that special number google voice generates for each contact. It's kind of a pain in the ass. So I purchased GV SMS Integration. The app works perfectly about 90% of the time. But that other 10% is a pretty big fail. It seems to be that whenever I lose signal, or go a long period without receiving a text, the next text I receive I am alerted for every text in the entire conversation. This is getting out of hand. A couple times a day I'm getting 20-30 text message alerts.
So in short:
1. Is there a better way to handle SMS integration with google voice? I don't understand why it works so well with phone calls but SMS is ****.
2. Is there a fix for the above issue I'm having? I've emailed the developer but it seems the project has been abandoned or something which really sucks.
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GV SMS Integration did work on my phone. I was getting Free SMS using Google Voice, both sending and receiving but I upgraded my ROM and I'm having difficulty figuring out the settings to achieve 'free' SMS while integrating it with native text app.
I'm using pay as you go SIM card, so this is relevant to me, too.
What are the Settings in GV SMS Integration and Google Voice app?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2076075
Here's a possibility. Haven't tested it yet.
I apologize if this question has been answered before, but all of the information I've found regarding this is outdated (threads are all from before the Hangouts Dialer was released).
I'm on the T-Mobile prepaid $30 plan (100 minutes, unlimited text/data). I've always used Google Voice for voicemail and I would prefer to keep doing so. I do have a GV number separate from my T-Mobile number. I always give out the GV number as my main cell phone number now that MMS and pretty much everything else is supported on GV. Some people still call my T-Mobile number instead of my GV number, however.
Now that the Hangouts Dialer is out, I can use that to place outgoing calls from my GV number using data and not my minutes which will be good for saving those minutes. My main questions are the following:
Do I need to select the option to receive incoming GV calls in the Hangouts app to use data for those calls (or to even get them to my phone at all, since T-Mobile prepaid doesn't support call forwarding)?
Is there a way to use GV's voicemail for incoming T-Mobile calls or do those have to function normally (using my normal phone dialer and the normal phone/T-Mobile voicemail)?
Some other threads I read mentioned having SIP set up, but I don't quite understand what that is or if I need it.
Are there any other considerations I'm missing that I should be aware of? Any additional advice would be greatly appreciated.
I used to use T-Mobile's prepaid plan but am now switching back after two years of Straight Talk, so I've forgotten most of the T-Mobile prepaid considerations and I don't know how things have changed, especially with the release of the Hangouts Dialer. Any advice at all would be very much appreciated. Thank you!
google voice voicemail does not work with tmobile prepaid plans. Some have had some luck using steps found here https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/voice/gbReID1_dIo/rte5L06sPpQJ but most of the time it doesnt work.
this is the message you get when you try activating it with a prepaid plan
As far as the voicemail thing goes, all my calls regardless of if it's on my carrier number or GV number use the GV voicemail. It's a simple option to select it and all calls will use the outgoing message and GV voicemail system. It's in the GV settings. I also am on T-Mo and use Hangouts and have the dialer, and when GV folded into Hangouts I didn't have to alter anything, the settings followed right along.
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google voice voicemail does not work with tmobile prepaid plans. Some have had some luck using steps found here https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/voice/gbReID1_dIo/rte5L06sPpQJ but most of the time it doesnt work.
this is the message you get when you try activating it would a prepaid plan
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Solid info, thanks for the correction.
Is anybody here using Google Voice on their Flex 2? I have this issue where outgoing calls made through Google Voice are recorded in the stock phone app's call log as some random number, not the number I just dialed. I did a little a little research, and Google Voice apparently routes all outgoing voice calls through a "gateway" or "access" number. That must be the random number that's showing in my call log. But this was never a problem on all the Android phones I've owned (and I've had many) and all the different ROMs I've flashed over the years. For example, Google Voice shows the actual numbers I dialed on my previous LG G2, Samsung Galaxy S4, LG G Pro, Nexus 4, etc.
If anyone can confirm this is also happening on their LG Flex 2, then I'll know it's not just me.
Mine showed the corrected # on both side. I'm on H950 5.1.1. Maybe you can update your google voice app.
That's the way it works on iPhones. I've never seen the Google Voice "hidden routing" number show up in the native call log on any android phone I've used. (That hidden routing number in Google Voice parlance is sometimes referenced as the "grandcentral" number which was the company that Google Voice bought when it started). If you notice, your "grandcentral" number actually shows up in the background (you can of see it in small numbers in your Google Voice app for a half second) when dialing a call from your Google Voice App.
Is it happening for calls you're making from even your Contacts, or just unknown numbers that you dial manually? (Not that I'd have anything to add or offer, but I"m just curious). Are you running stock, or are you modded in any way? (Again, I'm just curious).
I actually prefer the way Apple does it so you can see the number in your call log. It's handy to have. It's a static number that doesn't change for your Google contact. You can save it and dial it directly from any phone -- even without data or making a landline call -- and the call shows up on the other end that you're calling from your Google Voice number.
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Mine showed the corrected # on both side. I'm on H950 5.1.1. Maybe you can update your google voice app.
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I'm already on the newest version of the Google Voice app. I'm on a LS996 running 5.1.1, but I'm firmware version ZV6. I believe the newest 5.1.1 stock firmware is ZV9. I wonder if upgrading to ZV9 will fix the problem What 5.1.1 firmware version are you on?
I'm on 11x.
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That's the way it works on iPhones. I've never seen the Google Voice "hidden routing" number show up in the native call log on any android phone I've used. (That hidden routing number in Google Voice parlance is sometimes referenced as the "grandcentral" number which was the company that Google Voice bought when it started). If you notice, your "grandcentral" number actually shows up in the background (you can of see it in small numbers in your Google Voice app for a half second) when dialing a call from your Google Voice App.
Is it happening for calls you're making from even your Contacts, or just unknown numbers that you dial manually? (Not that I'd have anything to add or offer, but I"m just curious). Are you running stock, or are you modded in any way? (Again, I'm just curious).
I actually prefer the way Apple does it so you can see the number in your call log. It's handy to have. It's a static number that doesn't change for your Google contact. You can save it and dial it directly from any phone -- even without data or making a landline call -- and the call shows up on the other end that you're calling from your Google Voice number.
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I see the Google routing phone number in my call log for all the outgoing calls I make. It doesn't matter if I dial someone from my Contacts or I manually dial the number. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "dialing a call from your Google Voice App". I'm dialing by tapping on names in my Contacts app, or by tapping out numbers in the stock Phone app. I only open the Google Voice app to look at text messages or listen to recorded voicemail messages.
I'm using a Sprint LS996 and running the stock 5.1.1 firmware version ZV6. No mods. If Google Voice is working on your Flex 2 and showing the real outgoing numbers in your call log, may I ask if you're running a Sprint LS996 or an AT&T H950? Maybe it's just an issue in the stock LS996 ROM. Like I said, I never had this issue in any of the other Android phones I've owned.
I'm not sure why you say it's preferable that Apple shows the Google routing number instead of the actual number dialed. Why would you want to see phone numbers you don't recognize in your call history log? Why would you want or need to save that routing number and dial it directly? If you already have that person's real phone number, what is the advantage of having another strange number for that same person?
Oh yeah, I messed up on the part of "dialing from my GV App." Sorry about that. I was confused about where I see that grandcentral number when I make a phone call. I thought I only saw it if I initiated a call from the GV app, and even when I do that it just goes to the native dialer and I see it every time.
This is what I meant: On my phone, when I make a call, whether from contacts are just using the regular dialer, the top line shows my contact and/or the number I'm calling; the second line reads "call forwarding is enabled" the third line in blue reads "CALLING VIA GOOGLE VOICE" (that line is capped on my phone) and then the grandcentral number.
I'm using the AT&T H950. Did you by chance disable call forwarding? I remember when I had sprint it didn't play nice with Google Voice. Integrating voice mail (I can't remember exactly what the problem) but it was something like call forwarding didn't work very well with Sprint (and its MVNO's) and Google Voice.
As to your last question why I prefer seeing the grandcentral number in the call log is for personal and nostalgic reasons, and I probably shouldn't have even mentioned it because the whole thing is pretty much moot and pointless now, but I might as well briefly explain. In the early days of Google Voice, which wasn't that long ago, smartphones and cheap data weren't ubiquitous and a lot of us were using dumb phones. It wasn't easy using dumb phones with Google Voice, especially texting, because that unknown number or the grandcentral number was confusing as heck to both you and the person you were texting. If you could find out what number Google Voice was routing to your contact (without using the GV app like on a dumb phone) then it made texting easier.
Now someone is probably going to jump in, or they are thinking, it was easy to text with Google Voice on a dumb phone, because there were easy workarounds like just starting the text from your computer. True, but if you wanted to initiate the text, and you didn't have access to a computer or data, it was convenient to have that grandcentral number saved in your contacts. It was always kind of hard finding that grandcentral number. Even on Android phones you have to take a screenshot, so I kind of liked having that number in the call log and being able to see it. In a way, that's really the number your calling anyway, at least that's the way I look at it.
Anyway, it doesn't really matter now since we use smartphones and have near universal cell and cheap data plans.
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It doesn't matter if I dial someone from my Contacts or I manually dial the number.
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I should just explain why I asked that question too. I was just curious to know if there was any differentiation between unknown manually dialed numbers and saved contact numbers. I wouldn't have been able to offer any insight if in fact there was a difference between the two. I was simply curious. In my experience the Google Voice App, and routing calls through Google Voice on a mobile device, always works better for numbers you've called before with that device. I think the info gets cached in the phone's Google Voice app once used.
if your going to use google voice you should use hangouts it's a much better experience You can make and receive calls, send and receive text messages,MMS and listen to your voicemails even if you don't have a active phone service all just using WIFI download the hangout dialer from the playstore If you want to use the stock dialer app on your device but have your Google Voice number appear on caller ID, keep the original Google Voice app and select the use Google Voice to make all calls in the settings Additionally, you set the Hangouts Dialer app as your default dialer, which will display your Google Voice number on Caller ID.
Google is removing texts feature from Hangouts soon
I've been using hangouts since being integrated with Google Voice that's just a rumor going around since november that they would drop SMS features but I doubt it I'm in the latest version 7.0 i still send and receive text messages just fine
Just an update for everyone. I flashed back to unrooted stock ZV6, then I applied the ZV7, ZV8, and ZV9 OTA updates. Now that I'm on ZV9, which is the latest stock Sprint ROM, I decided to test Google Voice again. Well, the call history log in the stock phone dialer still shows the Google Voice routing number, not the actual number I dialed. I guess something is different (better) in the AT&T firmware that fixes this Google Voice issue because folks here using the AT&T H950 don't have the issue.