Hey guys so I was reading around on xda and found a thread for the hd7 saying that it would be possible because in windows phone it now supports multi core processors and a lot of stuff that android phones have what do you guys think of this
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Doesn't look like it's gonna happen man. The HD7 is a Windows 7 Phone which makes porting an OS like Win 8 somewhat simple. Getting Windows 8 on an Android device is going to take a deep knowledge of both systems and a lot of time. Hell, it might even be impossible, though on XDA I don't know if that word exists.
k4p741nkrunch said:
Doesn't look like it's gonna happen man. The HD7 is a Windows 7 Phone which makes porting an OS like Win 8 somewhat simple. Getting Windows 8 on an Android device is going to take a deep knowledge of both systems and a lot of time. Hell, it might even be impossible, though on XDA I don't know if that word exists.
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HD7 is a Windows phone.
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Yeah I know but even though what's the thing stopping like there isn't any hardware things that's stopping us right its just that it takes a huge amount of time and knowledge
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im pretty sure it would be illegal be cause of licensing concerns not that some of the brillant minded people couldnt do, I just think that that aspect would scare most people off
Windows phone has a set of hardware guidelines it has to meet. Only supports up to 512mb ram, 480x800 res, 1.5 single core cpu. Or at least that's what is was when I had mine. It world be really rough.
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kleeman7 said:
Windows phone has a set of hardware guidelines it has to meet. Only supports up to 512mb ram, 480x800 res, 1.5 single core cpu. Or at least that's what is was when I had mine. It world be really rough.
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yeah the reason i thjink its now possible is that on windows phone 8 all those guidelines are gone
nman123 said:
Yeah I know but even though what's the thing stopping like there isn't any hardware things that's stopping us right its just that it takes a huge amount of time and knowledge
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Legality and Drivers would probably be a good starting place of why it wouldnt be worth doing. Why would ANYONE waste their time doing something like this? Might as well just spend the money on a Win 8 Device. It would be like porting over IOS. Just no point.
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Yeah I know but even though what's the thing stopping like there isn't any hardware things that's stopping us right its just that it takes a huge amount of time and knowledge
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There are huge hardware issues. There are no drivers to make our hardware work with WP8, and would have to be made from scratch.
Plus, WP is closed source. So that greatly complicates the work needed to port it over. May also bring up some legal and licensing issues, as already mentioned.
The huge amount of effort and time is exactly what prevents WP OS being ported to any Android device. This questions gets asks for just about any Android device "can we port WP". Technically anything is "possible". But the huge amount of work means that nobody is going to be willing to port it over. Why go through all that work? It would be much easier to just buy a Windows Phone.
redpoint73 said:
There are huge hardware issues. There are no drivers to make our hardware work with WP8, and would have to be made from scratch.
Plus, WP is closed source. So that greatly complicates the work needed to port it over. May also bring up some legal and licensing issues, as already mentioned.
The huge amount of effort and time is exactly what prevents WP OS being ported to any Android device. This questions gets asks for just about any Android device "can we port WP". Technically anything is "possible". But the huge amount of work means that nobody is going to be willing to port it over. Why go through all that work? It would be much easier to just buy a Windows Phone.
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Or use one if the launchers in the play store that can give you the look and feel of wp.
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In addition to the other hardware requirements, WP also requires a dedicated hardware camera button. I don't see WP coming to the One X.
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Or use one if the launchers in the play store that can give you the look and feel of wp.
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launcher will give the look not the feel.
wp is way more fluid and animated than andorid.
it's just the way wp works its awesome.
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In addition to the other hardware requirements, WP also requires a dedicated hardware camera button. I don't see WP coming to the One X.
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nothing you can't emulate in a kernel ^^
sorry for the necro^^
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yossi2010 said:
launcher will give the look not the feel.
wp is way more fluid and animated than andorid.
it's just the way wp works its awesome.
nothing you can't emulate in a kernel ^^
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do you guys think there will be a windows phone 7 rom for the HTC inspire?
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do you guys think there will be a windows phone 7 rom for the HTC inspire?
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Why?
Why? Why? Why?!!!
If you want Windows Mobile with a 4.3" screen get the HTC HD2 or the HD7.
Why not?
As far as i know none of those phones support AT&T 3G or even less 4G. Would be pretty awesome.
I have an HD2 that can run 6.5, 7, or Android it is a Telstra version so it gets ATT 3g in many areas just Google ATT 3g 850 map and see if you're in their area. If you're interested I'm selling it.
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cursordroid said:
Why?
Why? Why? Why?!!!
If you want Windows Mobile with a 4.3" screen get the HTC HD2 or the HD7.
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To prove it can be done
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Ya I would spend hours doing something just to prove it could be done
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i'm rather curious about the possibilities as well coz the phone is sweet on it's own (despite the fact it has to run Android out of the box) and the 3G/4G incentive would be a fantastic Windows-based alternative for this configuration/design... just sayin' ('',)
While I can respect the desire to try something completely silly like this just to see if it can be done, you should expect that you may, and very probably will, brick your phone. Unlike Android, the code for Windows is not just out there. Putting Windows on a device it isn't certified for will likely fail because you won't have a proper set of drivers for the device. But I have tried silly things like this in the past with Linux putting it on devices it wasn't intended for with some success and the fun is sometimes all that matters.
I can't think of a single compelling reason I would want windows mobile on any phone I ever get unless they suddenly come up with a good blend of business and enthusiast features with WM7 doesn't seem to offer, but to each their own.
If you're interested, this might be fun. Not a rom, and not the same. But interesting.
Hmph. It's called Launcher7. I'd link you to it, but the forums don't want me to. It's in the Market.
I am interested... how much is your telstra phone?
Why is this silly? It's all part of the hacking/modding experience.
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If you're interested, this might be fun. Not a rom, and not the same. But interesting.
Hmph. It's called Launcher7. I'd link you to it, but the forums don't want me to. It's in the Market.
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I installed Launcher 7 on my Inspire. It's surprisingly pretty decent. It's free, so there's no risk involved.
if the iPhone can run iOS and android with a loader on boot, why would it be so hard to make it for an inspire? way more open then ios development.
I want this too as did a bunch of nexus one users, there's already a thread about it over there. But the answer is no, it isn't gonna happen as there are no drivers, windows phone is closed and can't get ported.
Is there a way to run windows mobile 7 on a htc thunderbolt?
ide like to try it out if possible
curtisjhare said:
Is there a way to run windows mobile 7 on a htc thunderbolt?
ide like to try it out if possible
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Ban him now.
curtisjhare said:
Is there a way to run windows mobile 7 on a htc thunderbolt?
ide like to try it out if possible
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One question..... WHY!? Windows Mobile sucks... If you mean WP7 then no. It's completely different. Windows Mobile and WP7 aren't the same though...
There isn't a Windows Mobile 7. I'm sure he meant Windows Phone 7.
But to answer your question, a port of Windows Phone 7 isn't going to happen. No drivers, no interest etc.
Might wanna try the HTC Trophy if you want a Windows Phone experience.
If you want the look and feel of WP7 then try launcher 7 and the other apps from that developer. He is doing some great work
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I just came from t-mobile and the HD7 and I chose 4g lte over wp7. If verizon had a lte wp7 phone, I would be all over it.
Android beats wp7 in versatility, but wp7 wins in stability and smoothness. The UI being consistent throughout the phone is nice to have.
I have an HTC Leo HD2 that runs CoreDroid HD (GB) and WP7 and I can tell you WP7 is butt. I would love to be more eloquent but that is basically how I feel. But that isn't addressing the question at hand. I would tell you from a hardware stand point our phones can definitely run WP7. As we all know the first thing you need is a developer in your corner that is willing to get through the muck of having RIL issues on our 4G devices. All of the 4G phones on verizon as of yet are Android phones so I think that could be an issue. I am no developer and dont pretend to be, but merely from a "is it possible?" standpoint I believe the answer is yes. If my HTC Leo can dual-boot I am sure our T-bolt can as well. If HTC decides to release a 4G WP7 phone you are probably in a much better position.
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I have an HTC Leo HD2 that runs CoreDroid HD (GB) and WP7 and I can tell you WP7 is butt. I would love to be more eloquent but that is basically how I feel. But that isn't addressing the question at hand. I would tell you from a hardware stand point our phones can definitely run WP7. As we all know the first thing you need is a developer in your corner that is willing to get through the muck of having RIL issues on our 4G devices. All of the 4G phones on verizon as of yet are Android phones so I think that could be an issue. I am no developer and dont pretend to be, but merely from a "is it possible?" standpoint I believe the answer is yes. If my HTC Leo can dual-boot I am sure our T-bolt can as well. If HTC decides to release a 4G WP7 phone you are probably in a much better position.
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Just love when someone basically says something sux, but then doesn't give any explanation.
Sure its possible. They got android on the hd7 in china, I'm guessing the hardware besides the 4g radio is pretty similar.
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Just love when someone basically says something sux, but then doesn't give any explanation.
Sure its possible. They got android on the hd7 in china, I'm guessing the hardware besides the 4g radio is pretty similar.
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It's easier to port android than wp7. Not that it's easy, but it's easier.
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Nikolai2.1 said:
Ban him now.
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that made me laugh, lol.
As for the OP, he should probably ask in the GENERAL android forums. You guys are aware there's a huge world of forums out there on XDA, not just the Thunderbolt and your questions will probably get better answers there than here if they're not entirely thunderbolt specific. I say that because it matters less if it runs on the TB and matters more if someone has gotten it to work on a HTC android phone to begin with.
However, they're all ARM based CPUs and lower level functions on the phone probably shares some traits with the windows htc phones so id say it could be done. However, I don't have any motivation to buy or look at a windows mobile 7 phone to find out since they're about as developmental friendly as iphones (which is next to nil).
If you mean WP7 then no. It's completely different. Windows Mobile and WP7 aren't the same though...
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They're not that different. Sure it has a different UI and they locked it way down from what it used to be on windows mobile, but they both share the same kernel family (windows ce descendants). Like windows 7 on the pc, it's called windows phone 7 because it's version 7 of the windows ce kernel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Phone_7
Lets port iOS while were at it...ridiculous.
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If it is bad as wm6 then it's horrible. Had to move to a blackberry from wm6 due to freezing and constant overheating... even with the development community. This phone has a great bunch of teams working on android... it'd be a waste to have them work on wm7 imo...
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I liked my imagio,after tweakin and oc'in it,was nice,limited but nice and stabile,to each his own,if one system was the fix all then you wouldnt have multiple platforms,just cause you dont like one or the other doesnt mean that everybody has to think the same way
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coliny59 said:
If it is bad as wm6 then it's horrible. Had to move to a blackberry from wm6 due to freezing and constant overheating... even with the development community. This phone has a great bunch of teams working on android... it'd be a waste to have them work on wm7 imo...
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I take it you haven't used a wp7 then since I had one reboot in 7+ months of use.....
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Lmao dude this made me laugh
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To be honest, I am a microsoft hater. They should merge with rim and the resulting company would probably be the most ridiculous entity ever.
Having said all that, I tried wp7 & was surprised at how nice it was. Probably would be great for non techies and women and children. Very smooth, intuitive and hassle free. not for me but I don't think its as bad as say blackberry is which truly is the bottom of the pile now by a massive margin.
Windows phone is not open source so it will probably be very hard to port to our devices. Plus people want sexier not simpler things so I doubt any dev will care.
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I would pay $1 for this. Someone is losing out on 10s of dollars for hours and hours of work
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This is like asking if you can change your Linux box to windows 3.5...
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@curtisjhare
If you are serious about a Verizon WP7 device, you should look at the HTC Trophy. Don't hold your breath waiting for WP7 on the Thunderbolt. The odds of that are about the same as iOS on the Tbolt.
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You can make it look like a Windows 7 Phone...
Is it possible to dual boot Android on 8X?
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would it be possible in the future?
HeartKiller said:
Is it possible to dual boot Android on 8X?
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No.
Well there is a developer device of the x8 and a dump of it with source tree out I can see alpha of Cmdr in the coming months
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No.
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I am looking to HTC 8X device to replace my HTC HD2.
HD2 was legendary dual booting device. I just wondering if HTC 8X would have similar dual boot capabilities.
No clue but if we can figure out how to crack the internals the One XL and Droid DNA will be the devices that we can use for kernels and ROMs to some extent.
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
No clue but if we can figure out how to crack the internals the One XL and Droid DNA will be the devices that we can use for kernels and ROMs to some extent.
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Doesn't really work like that... you have to build a hybrid kernel from the ground up with the engineering unit and they specs are totally diffrent on all the devices you listed
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We is the developers in this forum.
The 8X is kind of different but kind of not different. The audio subsystem is shared with the Droid DNA, as is the front and rear camera (most likely), and the Evita/One XL shares the same display resolution and same SoC and such, so those two devices will likely provide everything needed for a hybrid kernel that will run Android on this device.
The problem is actually getting the firmware to load that kernel. From what little I understand about the WPx devices, there's a TPM module inside that needs to be side-stepped and the bootloader system is different from the Android variants, which makes life a lot harder.
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No clue but if we can figure out how to crack the internals the One XL and Droid DNA will be the devices that we can use for kernels and ROMs to some extent.
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Just find out about Droid DNA this week, this device is amazing and looking much better than 8X
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Is it possible to dual boot Android on 8X?
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would it be possible in the future?
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Just find out about Droid DNA this week, this device is amazing and looking much better than 8X
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2 very different phone,s.
And if you want android, dont even look at WP8.
No offense, just my mind speaking at loud.
8X is a beauty and i would never put android on it.
And last but not least......HD2 is a whole different ball game.
Thats just a monster phone that left out a lot of phone in it shadows.
That will take some phone to beat and i dont see that coming soon.
Greetz.
close this thread immediately !!!
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close this thread immediately !!!
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Hey! What's your problem? Your not the boss of XDA, so you shouldn't be telling us to remove a development thread. If your going to be like that, go away. XDA is MEANT to be a development site so this thread is perfectly relevant.
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got some childhood issues you want to talk about mate?
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Hey! What's your problem? Your not the boss of XDA, so you shouldn't be telling us to remove a development thread. If your going to be like that, go away. XDA is MEANT to be a development site so this thread is perfectly relevant.
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got some childhood issues you want to talk about mate?
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well said!
because if you wanted a Android device, you should of just gotten one...
Well friends I have read on many forms that if anybody wants android then they should buy android device, & those want windows phone should buy a windows device, BUT LET ME TELL THE NEW SMARTPHONE members,
" its not stupid to ask for dual OS on a newer device, most of us have our PC with dual OS whether win95se & win98se, or windows Me & win XP or vista or XP & win7, and Linux" so it should be promoted at an open resourse like xda forum, rather than asking to buy particular is device, its just matter of interest for experienced developers to work for these multiple OS. On one device,
I can just say a tag from one of our famous xda developers 'BePE' " ITS Our device & we are the one to decide what we wish to run on our purchased devices, we paid a handsome money to buy these devices, &its not Microsoft or apple or google or Nokia or etc to lock up our options just in the name of security and putting so many locks(developer lock, root lock, interop unlock) its a free world
For those who think its absurd I will just say that (HTC magician &ppc2k)
I Have seen happen from early devices, right from k-jam to jasjam to to JasJar(aka universal) to HTC tytn to HTC diamond to HTC topaz to HTC Blackstone & finally to the legendary HTC hd2 every user who believes that user is the person who decides what he wants to run on the device, as they pay a handsome amount to buy the devices
Hello, I am running Paranoid Android and am very happy with it. I'm going a little flash crazy though haha. I was curious if there was a way to flash windows mobile to my HOX? Can this be done? If not is there an app or tweak that I could do to get that windows look and feel to it?
Thanks!!
No, there are legal issues with porting windows to a non windows phone
There are plenty of launchers on the market that have the look.
Your not going to find much more than that.
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KungPow90 said:
Hello, I am running Paranoid Android and am very happy with it. I'm going a little flash crazy though haha. I was curious if there was a way to flash windows mobile to my HOX? Can this be done? If not is there an app or tweak that I could do to get that windows look and feel to it?
Thanks!!
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launcher 7 in the play store.
Only phone I know of that runs windows and android is the HTC HD2
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absolutelygrim said:
launcher 7 in the play store.
Only phone I know of that runs windows and android is the HTC HD2
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Launcher 8 is there too
There are no drivers to make WP/WM work with our phone, they would have to be created from scratch. And WP is closed source, so as mentioned there are legal issues, as well as the closed sourced nature making it all that much harder to work with. Technically its "possible", but the amount of work involved makes it completely infeasible. It would probably take hundreds of hours. Much easier to just buy a Windows Phone.
Any sort of port would violate the WP EULA, and you can be sure any sharing of the port would be viewed by MS as software piracy. Frankly, I'm not sure why they even allow the mock-WP launchers since they're copying the distinctive look of WP.
Hey guys,
Ubuntu on mobile phones:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/design
I personally think it's a win for Android. Since Android is always behind the mainline Linux kernel, now with Ubuntu being optimised for ARM devices, the kernel drivers will be in line with the main Linux kernel. That could possibly mean that phones like the Sensation could always be kept up to date as Android is a forked distribution of Linux.
This is all strictly hypothetical of course and it may not bear to fruition.
On a side note Ubuntu on mobile does seem pretty awesome, especially the gesture based controls.
So what are your thoughts guys?
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The promised land indeed - the unfied and homogeneous environment from smartphone to cluster.
And it looks beautiful - fair play. Bare back Android still looks like a school project to me.
Will be interesting to see which of the OEMs get on board. But it could be just what HTC need to differentiate themselves again.
Edit: Clever so and so's, common drivers mean it shouldn't be long till we see some ports. I for one will have a phone with it on from day one. Definitely.
Apparently the source will release Q4 2013 so we could possibly build it for our sensations as the kernel is not much different to our android kernel. I honestly can not wait because there's no dalvik vm running so it could essentially work lag free.
The future is coming where everything is tied into one OS. However I doubt htc will release a phone with an unlocked bootloader. Manufacturers like Samsung and Sony will possibly capitalise on Ubuntu with their unlockable bootloaders
Edit: Eliminate lag on Android: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
This confirms my thoughts about the dalvik vm. It's the Dalvik VM which is the main cause of lag on Android. Now with Ubuntu having no virtual machine, it should run with near to no lag!
Ubuntu on Sensation sounds amazing, although I might not be using this phone around Q4 2013, shame really...
I personally preferred ubuntu for android (it was plug ur android phone into a dock then use it as Ubuntu computer). But I guess an Ubuntu phone is cool too, and always welcome any new platforms to the market, getting some fresh blood
I can't wait
Just out of curiosity, are there any developers in the sensation world that think they'd be up to porting this when it become available? I would love to see this come to the Sensation.
How exactly will it be diffrent from andoid in terms of performance?
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How exactly will it be diffrent from andoid in terms of performance?
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Tons. Expect the scrolling and general touch interface to be as smooth as an iPhone or windows phone. (To the haters, you simply cannot deny that that android has some lag to it, no matter the phone). I think this is the only OS out there that can compete with android and iPhone simply because of the desktop OS concept, which is brilliant and exactly what most people would love to have if the app market picks up for it. Only time will tell though.
is anybody, who try it?
Exactly, Android will have some degree of lag due to the Dalvik VM. It's Ubuntu which has the possibility having little to no lag at all.
And to the poster above, Ubuntu still hasn't been released yet on any phones
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Apart from all the great and obvious advantages that this poses, I'm worried that phone networks will still try and bloat up the phone with all their branding and rubbish.
As long as you have terminal, anything is possible
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Apart from all the great and obvious advantages that this poses, I'm worried that phone networks will still try and bloat up the phone with all their branding and rubbish.
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They can't put anything on a phone that I can't take off.
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Apart from all the great and obvious advantages that this poses, I'm worried that phone networks will still try and bloat up the phone with all their branding and rubbish.
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Where's there's a will, there's a way. XDA has proven that time and again in the smartphone world
I'm stoked for Ubuntu, but you guys saying lag for all Android devices haven't spent much time with a Nexus 4...
I'm definitely going to switch to this if it becomes available for the sensation.
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I'm definitely going to switch to this if it becomes available for the sensation.
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wideasleep1 said:
I'm stoked for Ubuntu, but you guys saying lag for all Android devices haven't spent much time with a Nexus 4...
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One of my friends has it, and have played with it quite a bit. But I'm sorry, it still doesn't compare to an iPhone in terms of smoothness. The only thing that compares is a windows phone.
Very nice i hope bring to sensation
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One of my friends has it, and have played with it quite a bit. But I'm sorry, it still doesn't compare to an iPhone in terms of smoothness. The only thing that compares is a windows phone.
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Not buy'in it. I've played with 3GS, 4 and 4S, and the N4 is snappier than all 'ovem. Project Butter was a total success, and Android finally tore that smoothness monkey off its back. IOS is slow now, by comparison.