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We have been scammed by HTC.

HTC allows us to unlock but does not allow total root capabilities.
What is the point of unlocking and losing warranty if the phone is not truly yours?
Love the One S LOTS! But why keep it if development will be hampered by HTC?
Not a Samsung fan but I guess it will be my next device. Maybe sooner than later if I can sell the One S or trade for a G-Nex.
Got the S cause of T-Mobile and want true aosp along with full root functions. Thought it would be no problem to get aosp but wow was I wrong! Sense sucks!
Thanks HTC for once again SUCKING! You are losing the ONES who truly love your devices!

You seriously thought it would be easy to get AOSP on an HTC phone? That's where you went wrong.
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joshnichols189 said:
You seriously thought it would be easy to get AOSP on an HTC phone? That's where you went wrong.
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Yeah aosp sucked on the HTC G1, HTC Nexus One, and my last phone,the HTC G2. Gee whatever gave me that idea?/ sarcasm/

LikeaG2root said:
Yeah aosp sucked on the HTC G1, HTC Nexus One, and my last phone,the HTC G2. Gee whatever gave me that idea?/ sarcasm/
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Hmm well maybe if you paid attention to recent trends and saw how hard it was to S-Off the vivid and rezound, you would have made a better purchasing decision.
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joshnichols189 said:
Hmm well maybe if you paid attention to recent trends and saw how hard it was to S-Off the vivid and rezound, you would have made a better purchasing decision.
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Is the vivid and rezound now s- off?

Point is that HTC advertises that they are " developer friendly" which is total B.S.
They turn the knob for you but will not let you open the Fn door!

LikeaG2root said:
Is the vivid and rezound now s- off?
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I don't know, I think they have some insane hacking to get S-Off. I believe everything to achieve it on those devices has been patched. What I am trying to say is they have roms that are decent but it took them forever to get S-Off and their development was crippled by it.
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I don't know, I think they have some insane hacking to get S-Off. I believe everything to achieve it on those devices has been patched. What I am trying to say is they have roms that are decent but it took them forever to get S-Off and their development was crippled by it.
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Just sucks how HTC is half assing their support.
I will likely hold on and wait for some good news in the future.
Never, since using Android ,have I ever thought about giving up on HTC until now
399$ Nexus looking real good right now.

Don't do it man, I had a galaxy nexus and I miss AOSP but Samsung makes some plastic ass phones. It'll get better in due time. The One S has an advantage over the One X and maybe the SGSIII in that the European model and US model are exactly the same.
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joshnichols189 said:
Don't do it man, I had a galaxy nexus and I miss AOSP but Samsung makes some plastic ass phones. It'll get better in due time. The One S has an advantage over the One X and maybe the SGSIII in that the European model and US model are exactly the same.
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I hear you man. I have always praised HTC build quality over Samsung.
I do agree that the S is better than the X. Phone is a BEAST. Just wish it was not handcuffed to Sense

For now the best I can do is keep using Black Dragon Rom which "looks" for the most part aosp.

Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.

phin586 said:
Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
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You are certainly not helping.
OP, how is AOSP on the G2? I saw it is basically fully functional and thought about getting one for a backup phone.
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joshnichols189 said:
You are certainly not helping.
OP, how is AOSP on the G2? I saw it is basically fully functional and thought about getting one for a backup phone.
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The G2 was awesome. Very large and very good development support for it since it is also the same as Desire Z.
Sold it after getting One S. I had ICS on it working good including camera. Gingerbread was lightning fast on it.

phin586 said:
Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
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You are missing the point. Of course I did not expect huge development this early for the S. What you are missing is that the support my not get a chance due to HTC and HTC is misleading<which is what this thread is about.

Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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ajftl said:
Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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You get FULL CONTROL AND CHOICE with AOSP along with SPEED and FLUIDITY!

ajftl said:
Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?

joshnichols189 said:
You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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Very stable. Looks aosp for the most part using Apex launcher and themed status bar and notifications. Sense system menu still there along with keyboard,gallery, and camera.

joshnichols189 said:
You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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Not the same. I tried. Widgetspro its one of the beat ones.
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Android 4.1 on the International One X

Just saw this. Many issues but still pretty cool that they got it booting up so fast
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737736
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darktranquility18 said:
Just saw this. Many issues but still pretty cool that they got it booting up so fast
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737736
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nice.
We'd have it too if we had kernel source.

wonderful,
starting to hate htc. love the phone but whats the problem with the source?

I think they're waiting to release the 2.xx update then will release source on that.

I'm sure it's AT&Ts fault.
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derekedw said:
I'm sure it's AT&Ts fault.
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Lol its not like HTC updated the international One X. Devs got it working. Only a matter of time before someone comes up with something that works with the ATT HOX

darktranquility18 said:
Lol its not like HTC updated the international One X. Devs got it working. Only a matter of time before someone comes up with something that works with the ATT HOX
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Intl one x source was released long ago though
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rquinn19 said:
Intl one x source was released long ago though
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Oh for real? I just got my phone today. A lot of catching up to do it seems

The kernel source should be released within the next 2 months hopefully.

rquinn19 said:
Intl one x source was released long ago though
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Their phone was also released long before ours, though.

kilo89 said:
Their phone was also released long before ours, though.
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Not really though. Maybe a couple weeks, but att soft launched the hoxl, but only started advertising a week ago.
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derekedw said:
Not really though. Maybe a couple weeks, but att soft launched the hoxl, but only started advertising a week ago.
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You're right, I just checked. It was April 2nd. For some reason I was under the impression it was back in February or so.
Well, they definitely are overdue then!

::shudders::
Eww...an SDK port :-(.
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kilo89 said:
You're right, I just checked. It was April 2nd. For some reason I was under the impression it was back in February or so.
Well, they definitely are overdue then!
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I'm guessing July for source.
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anyone konw if i can use this rom on my att hox? if so how??

No you can't

iNaShTy said:
anyone konw if i can use this rom on my att hox? if so how??
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There will never be an end to the people who don't read and can't figure out that the international and the XL are basically completely different phones in terms of development and processors -_-

blaine.hale said:
There will never be an end to the people who don't read and can't figure out that the international and the XL are basically completely different phones in terms of development and processors -_-
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Thanks to At&T not calling the phone the One XL

iNaShTy said:
anyone konw if i can use this rom on my att hox? if so how??
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As long as US phones have different processors, we'll never be able to use international mods or roms.
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Not true. Porting international roms will be trivial once we get source.

Will this phone see Sense 5?

??
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atown706 said:
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Ya I don't see that happening.

It might see it, but probably not officially.
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Wow guys.. sorry to hear that. This phone is nearly identical to the one x and we just got sense 5..
Another reason why I won't be getting another HTC

mirGantrophy said:
Wow guys.. sorry to hear that. This phone is nearly identical to the one x and we just got sense 5..
Another reason why I won't be getting another HTC
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Em what

Darknites said:
Em what
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+1
One S | Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2 | Viper 1.2.1 | Bricked Beastmode

mirGantrophy said:
Wow guys.. sorry to hear that. This phone is nearly identical to the one x and we just got sense 5..
Another reason why I won't be getting another HTC
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You got Sense 4+, not Sense 5...

mirGantrophy said:
Wow guys.. sorry to hear that. This phone is nearly identical to the one x and we just got sense 5..
Another reason why I won't be getting another HTC
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LOL.:laugh:

Has Sense5 even been spoken of for release cuz I subscribe to PhoneDog.com and he or they have not even mentioned it, just find this thread a bit lost in translation?

TheCrow1372 said:
Has Sense5 even been spoken of for release cuz I subscribe to PhoneDog.com and he or they have not even mentioned it, just find this thread a bit lost in translation?
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Nope only leak pics of it.

It looks much uglier anyway man.. Widgets that you can get off the market and things that are no longer made with effects in mind.. Just simplicity

Lirankn said:
Just simplicity
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Em isn't that why people buy the Nexus.

Darknites said:
Em isn't that why people buy the Nexus.
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Nah, thats why we flash AOSP roms (although theres no pure AOSP rom for the S..)

Nice answers guys. Keep it up, love this thread somehow!
back to topic, lol
Don't think we'll see that officially

rootrider said:
Don't think we'll see that officially
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Me neither... And actually i dont even care. Of course official updates also contribute towards better custom roms, but i have some trust in the developer community that they can deliver a nice Sense 5 rom even without it ever being officially supported on HOS.
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Darknites said:
Em isn't that why people buy the Nexus.
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Em isn't that why we buy HTC phones instead...?

Lirankn said:
Em isn't that why we buy HTC phones instead...?
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Em what I thought people buy HTC for so call build quality and maybe Sense but I got it for its hardware because of AOSP.

My vote is that we won't see sense 5
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3.4.10 kernel for AOSP?

Been wondering since I have switched from Sense to MIUI...
Will there be 3.4.10 kernel for MIUI (AOSP) just like sense?
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Im asking this cause i think the 3.4.10 kernel has awesome performance and great battery life
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Like using the new 4.1 kernel sources from htc for aosp 4.1? That would be awesome.
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doc_v15 said:
Been wondering since I have switched from Sense to MIUI...
Will there be 3.4.10 kernel for MIUI (AOSP) just like sense?
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H8 and some other people are working on it.

jacobas92 said:
Like using the new 4.1 kernel sources from htc for aosp 4.1? That would be awesome.
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Yeah man, thats what I meant
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RollTribe said:
H8 and some other people are working on it.
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Awesome! Is there any dev.thread?
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doc_v15 said:
Awesome! Is there any dev.thread?
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Don't think so. It's probably one of those things that they do in their spare spare spare time if they really feel like doing it lol

jacobas92 said:
Don't think so. It's probably one of those things that they do in their spare spare spare time if they really feel like doing it lol
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LOL

I was wondering.. Where would someone like me start if I wanted to do it myself? I don't need anyone to walk me through anything, just where I should start. I know my way around linux, if it helps.
Would this work?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847344

FYI, the AOSP devs for this device (including h8rift and lots others) as well as devs for other devices have been working for quite a while on a 3.4 kernel for AOSP ROMs. Trust me, they've put lots of work into it. If you want to help, contact them, but definetely don't start from scratch.
It's quite a heavy task. Check out the CM10.1 thread, h8rift has spoken about their work on the kernel.

Yeah, there's a ton of work going into the 3.4 kernel. The best part about it? From h8 himself:
We're working on a huge thing right now. 3.4 kernel, which means that we can basically shadow the nexus 4's updates step by step. its on the side from what we're doing on nightlies right now.
3.4 kernel has no screen tearing, we can probably stop hacking our camera HAL and use nexus 4's instead, as well as many other things.
Basically, if all goes well, this phone will become a nexus4 on the inside, and an HTC One XL on the outside (casing). Thank LG/Google for using the msm8960 platform for its nexus, as it would not be possible otherwise. This is very exciting.
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Yes, jewel and ville are in lockstep with evita on this.
3.4 kernel is not a stopping point. We are on a fully caf kernel (which is what mako is built off of). As mako gets updates from CAF, we will update ours, etc. This phone could live for a very long time on this new caf based kernel.
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From these posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38124041&postcount=1650
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38144484&postcount=1682

Oh I wasn't asking for/demanding it I only meant it as I just want to learn. I didn't expect to really get much done lol. I do appreciate the info though, I didn't know about all that. That sounds amazing, can't wait!
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[Q] Liquid Smooth vs Carbon ROM

I flashed over carbon as I see the devs left team liquid. I honestly do not see any difference. But I do want the most stable. Especially partial reboots during normal tasks like enabling USB mode. Anyone else have thoughts? I hope this is the right thread. If not, mods can you correct it? Thank you.
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Herc08 said:
I flashed over carbon as I see the devs left team liquid. I honestly do not see any difference. But I do want the most stable. Especially partial reboots during normal tasks like enabling USB mode. Anyone else have thoughts? I hope this is the right thread. If not, mods can you correct it? Thank you.
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4.2 in general is just way too buggy for me.
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exad said:
4.2 in general is just way too buggy for me.
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+1. And on many different devices I have tried it on too.
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exad said:
4.2 in general is just way too buggy for me.
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bkmo said:
+1. And on many different devices I have tried it on too.
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well, its still running good on my end..and i guess it depends what you are using your phone for. i do have a good battery life with carbon...althought i am using greenify and setCPU, and turning my 4G off when i am using wifi

bkmo said:
+1. And on many different devices I have tried it on too.
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Its not buggy on phones that actual have native 4.2 support, like the galaxy nexus and nexus 4
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mirGantrophy said:
Its not buggy on phones that actual have native 4.2 support, like the galaxy nexus and nexus 4
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You're making me want to buy a nexus -_- ass.

exad said:
You're making me want to buy a nexus -_- ass.
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i said the same thing to myself...that nexus 4 and 10 is looking better and better

At this point I'm waiting for the next nexus device. Hoping its made by HTC
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Well if Google follows its pattern it should be Motorola. There was HTC, Samsung, and LG. Especially since they have a share in bit.
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Well Google owns Motorola but they said they will have to bid for the nexus device the same as every other manufacturer
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area51avenger said:
Well Google owns Motorola but they said they will have to bid for the nexus device the same as every other manufacturer
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All i know for sure is, i'm gonna do my best to get my hands on the next nexus phone. They're tough to get a hold of here though. Carriers and stores don't seem to carry them so I'll probably have to order it online.
Had the evo3d before this phone and while HTC tends to have a great build quality which I love. I am just so in love with stock android and the idea of getting updates as fast as they can be released is a sexy idea indeed.

Online is always the best option. But the play store (computer) should always carry them. Especially the nexus 4. 299 for an unlocked high end device? Can't beat that with a chicken bat
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