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Hey guys-
I recently went from Liberated b005 to the FR008 and everything is working great except one thing: Exchange ActiveSync.
I have my normal email with gmail, and my business email & calendar is on Exchange. I am using the HTC "Mail" app on the phone. The problem is that it does not get the mail in a timely fashion. With the previous Liberated b005 Eclair it worked perfectly, just as expected, with no tweaking required. I'd get mail on my phone within a few minutes of when I got it on my PC. But now I generally have to open the Mail app and manually refresh it to get any Exchange mail.
Under "Accounts & sync" settings, I have "Background data" checked and "Auto-sync" (which I understand is aka "push email") is unchecked. Maybe it works right with Auto-sync checked but my battery life is horrible with it set that way.
I have "Exchange ActiveSync" account
Under "Data and synchronization" for that account, it has:
Schedule: Manual
Sync mail: checked
Sync contacts: not checked
Sync calendar: checked
If I click "Schedule", it has "Peak time" which is Mon-Fri 7:30am-7:00pm, and then "Frequency" Peak times: Every 15 minutes and Off-peak times: Every hour
I don't recall these "peak time" and etc. from the b005 settings. It just seemed to work as expected without me having to fool with it.
Any ideas why this isn't syncing my mail ever 15 minutes as I would expect during "peak time"?
Oh and by the way, thanks attn1 for the ROMs. This stuff is brilliant.
i don't think theres anything particularly wrong with what the app is doing.
you put that the schedule is manual...rather than you manually setting it, perhaps it means it only refreshes when you refresh it manually?
i would set it to auto sync and perhaps change a few other things to manage battery life better? disable gps/wifi when not needed, lower screen brightness all that stuff.
i know i'm not extraordinarily helpful, but thats all i've got.
Well, clearly under the "manual" settings, it appears that it's supposed to be doing something automatically.
I already manage gps & wifi and all that other stuff to improve battery life. I still have to charge the phone mid-day. Turning on Auto-sync may "fix" my mail issue (work around it, really), but the cost is way too high in terms of battery life.
mr72 said:
Hey guys-
I recently went from Liberated b005 to the FR008 and everything is working great except one thing: Exchange ActiveSync.
I have my normal email with gmail, and my business email & calendar is on Exchange. I am using the HTC "Mail" app on the phone. The problem is that it does not get the mail in a timely fashion. With the previous Liberated b005 Eclair it worked perfectly, just as expected, with no tweaking required. I'd get mail on my phone within a few minutes of when I got it on my PC. But now I generally have to open the Mail app and manually refresh it to get any Exchange mail.
Under "Accounts & sync" settings, I have "Background data" checked and "Auto-sync" (which I understand is aka "push email") is unchecked. Maybe it works right with Auto-sync checked but my battery life is horrible with it set that way.
I have "Exchange ActiveSync" account
Under "Data and synchronization" for that account, it has:
Schedule: Manual
Sync mail: checked
Sync contacts: not checked
Sync calendar: checked
If I click "Schedule", it has "Peak time" which is Mon-Fri 7:30am-7:00pm, and then "Frequency" Peak times: Every 15 minutes and Off-peak times: Every hour
I don't recall these "peak time" and etc. from the b005 settings. It just seemed to work as expected without me having to fool with it.
Any ideas why this isn't syncing my mail ever 15 minutes as I would expect during "peak time"?
Oh and by the way, thanks attn1 for the ROMs. This stuff is brilliant.
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I have my exchange account set as follows:
Days: Every day
Peak time start: 05:00
Peak time end: 22:00
Peak times: As items arrive
Off-peak times: Every 4 hours
Works brilliantly.
First off I think "Auto-sync" being off is your issue. I do not believe that the "Auto-sync" setting refers to "push mail". I believe the auto-sync setting is general for all apps and how they are allowed to sync data either manual or automagically, where as push mail has to do with your mail client only. I believe setting your exchange account to receive items as they arrive is "push mail". I have Auto-sync enabled.
Think of it this way, your schedule settings are for the exchange app in particular where as the "auto-sync" setting is for all apps that use a data connection so no matter what you specify in the app settings, the general data sync settings will over ride them. By turning off auto-sync you are telling your phone to not allow any app to sync on it's own but to allow the app to sync when it is launched manually.
The only other thought that comes to mind is that if you are using wifi and connected to the same network that your exchange server is on, your phone will not be able to sync your mail unless you turn off your wifi or you have your wifi set to sleep after 15 minutes of phone sleep. Once your wifi sleeps your exchange mail will use the carrier network and be able to sync.
OK, I get it.
"Background Data" is aka "push"? Or, in other words, there is no way to allow a timed sync like a normal old fashioned email app, while also disabling push email, correct?
mr72 said:
OK, I get it.
"Background Data" is aka "push"? Or, in other words, there is no way to allow a timed sync like a normal old fashioned email app, while also disabling push email, correct?
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Push refers to how an exchange server sends email to your mobile client, it has nothing to do with the "background data" or "auto-sync" settings. No matter how you want your exchange client to sync, either timed like every 5 minutes or immediately when items are received, you have to have "auto-sync" enabled for it to work.
Let's break it down like this:
With "auto-sync" enabled your mail should update per the schedule you set automatically without launching the app.
With "auto-sync" disabled your mail will only update when you launch it from the application shortcut.
Does that make sense?
NOTE: Background data must be enabled as well.
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Well, clearly under the "manual" settings, it appears that it's supposed to be doing something automatically.
I already manage gps & wifi and all that other stuff to improve battery life. I still have to charge the phone mid-day. Turning on Auto-sync may "fix" my mail issue (work around it, really), but the cost is way too high in terms of battery life.
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turning on auto sync isn't a work-around; as a$$h4t pointed out, it is a solution. for your phone to grab mail as per your schedule, auto sync must be enabled.
as far as your battery woes go, i'm at a loss as to how it could be draining so much if you already manage your battery life pretty well. i would install the app watchdog task manager to keep an eye on any processes trying to eat more battery than they need to.
also, a readthrough of this tutorial never hurts.
mr72 said:
Under "Accounts & sync" settings, I have "Background data" checked and "Auto-sync" (which I understand is aka "push email") is unchecked.
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The Background/Auto-sync settings are purely advisory, and many apps ignore them completely. To change the HTC mail sync behavior you need to change the settings in the HTC mail prefs.
When you do set Background and/or Auto-sync, most of the Google apps (and some of the HTC ones) start polling the network regularly, which is what kills your battery. Weather, stocks, gmail, etc etc. In my experience it takes quite a lot of tweaking to run them all down. Once done though, I've been able to re-enable those global settings without killing the battery.
thanks for the tips. Auto-sync is working fine now with Exchange and it's not draining the battery unduly, well not any more than it drains it with auto-sync turned off.
I can't seem to remove apps like News & Weather, GMail, Stocks, etc. that would use background data services and which I do not ever use. Guess I can just delete the apk files.
mr72 said:
thanks for the tips. Auto-sync is working fine now with Exchange and it's not draining the battery unduly, well not any more than it drains it with auto-sync turned off.
I can't seem to remove apps like News & Weather, GMail, Stocks, etc. that would use background data services and which I do not ever use. Guess I can just delete the apk files.
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You can go into settings under "Accounts & sync" and go into each account that you don't want to sync and uncheck sync. I usually do that with news, stocks and weather right off the bat when I set up a phone. That will cut down on the background data and help with your battery life.
mr72 said:
thanks for the tips. Auto-sync is working fine now with Exchange and it's not draining the battery unduly, well not any more than it drains it with auto-sync turned off.
I can't seem to remove apps like News & Weather, GMail, Stocks, etc. that would use background data services and which I do not ever use. Guess I can just delete the apk files.
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you can remove certain system apps via this method. i always do this for facebook, news/weather, stocks and things like that.
and for more battery help, check this out.
thanks. i'll check it out. location-based wifi would be the bomb for battery saving, but Y5 does not work on Froyo/Aria and everything else that has this feature is a paid app... guess I just am not yet willing to spring for it. Cheap == me.
Found HTC HUB kept syncing every 3 minutes. This may be a bug in Sense 3.0 but not sure. My battery is no longer losing 4/5% per hour without use. Not saying this will solve everyone's battery life problems but give it ago. Also turned Facebook sync off.
Hope this helps some of you guys.
recklesslife85 said:
Found HTC HUB kept syncing every 3 minutes. This may be a bug in Sense 3.0 but not sure. My battery is no longer losing 4/5% per hour without use. Not saying this will solve everyone's battery life problems but give it ago. Also turned Facebook sync off.
Hope this helps some of you guys.
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As a general rule, sync management should always be in play...especially on a brand new phone. This includes email. Push email eats battery badly. Also included in this is location settings and brand specific apps. Very few people think of HTC hub.
alodar1 said:
As a general rule, sync management should always be in play...especially on a brand new phone. This includes email. Push email eats battery badly. Also included in this is location settings and brand specific apps. Very few people think of HTC hub.
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Actually Polling email affects the battery more than push. Polling your phone will connect every X amount of minutes to poll the server for new mail so it's constantly using data every time it checks. Push email the emails are only pushed to the phone when there are new messages so data is only used when the server pushes the message to your phone instead of your phone connecting to poll your email account every 15 minutes or every hour, sending data to the server, the server checking if there are messages, then pulling the data down.
There has been debate on this but think about it.
if you poll for email every 15 minutes the phone is opening a data connection to the server every 15 minutes even if there are no messages. with push you only use data when the message is pushed to you.
recklesslife85 said:
Found HTC HUB kept syncing every 3 minutes. This may be a bug in Sense 3.0 but not sure. My battery is no longer losing 4/5% per hour without use. Not saying this will solve everyone's battery life problems but give it ago. Also turned Facebook sync off.
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where do you check the settings for the HTC HUB syncing?
piimp said:
where do you check the settings for the HTC HUB syncing?
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Settings - Accounts & sync - HTC Sense
jlevy73 said:
Settings - Accounts & sync - HTC Sense
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i was doing this before but i wasnt seeing HTC Sense thats y i asked, but i just realized its because it wasnt added to the list yet, so i just dint add it since im not even using it
Yeah i turned it off and im lasting a day and a half now. I like it but it's not worth all that battery life.
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HTC Hub is useless anyway. I don't know why anyone would want to use it.
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When you have the two check boxes to sync htc hub and htc sync checked what info does it sync anyway?
seatown1two said:
When you have the two check boxes to sync htc hub and htc sync checked what info does it sync anyway?
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my guess is the hub is to let you know of new widgets & crap & htc sync is is for their online site that can locate your phone, backs up your contacts/sms, & all of that
Honestly the screen is the culprit of battery drainage on my phone. I turned it all the way down and its been 5 hours and my battery is still 93%
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Jackasaur said:
Honestly the screen is the culprit of battery drainage on my phone. I turned it all the way down and its been 5 hours and my battery is still 93%
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Mine too. I found that friendstream was the actual culprit. Even though it said "Display" i discovered that that includes widgets also. Took friendstream off my desktop and unchecked the HTC HUB & SYNC and I'm perfect now.
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graffixnyc said:
Actually Polling email affects the battery more than push. Polling your phone will connect every X amount of minutes to poll the server for new mail so it's constantly using data every time it checks. Push email the emails are only pushed to the phone when there are new messages so data is only used when the server pushes the message to your phone instead of your phone connecting to poll your email account every 15 minutes or every hour, sending data to the server, the server checking if there are messages, then pulling the data down.
There has been debate on this but think about it.
if you poll for email every 15 minutes the phone is opening a data connection to the server every 15 minutes even if there are no messages. with push you only use data when the message is pushed to you.
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I think you misunderstand push vs pull in this context.
Pretty much all home WiFi routers as well as many mobile operators put your phone behind NAT. Also, every time you change networks your phone may end up with a different IP address. This means your phone is effectively unreachable for push messages in the way that you describe: sitting idle waiting for a message.
To be addressable by the push server it will need to poll each time it changes IP. To work around the NAT issue it will need to poll frequently regardless of IP changes, just to keep an open channel. (This because NAT mappings time out after a short while.) Push in the traditional sense is cool just because your message arrive instantly.
The idea that push saves battery is really just because of how Apple introduced push. They don't allow other apps to poll or to keep a traditional push connections open in the background. Instead they force all apps to use their push system, which results in a number of battery savings:
* Keeping 1 channel open with Apple's server vs. tons of poll/push connections with various servers is more efficient, simply because there is much less activity.
* That 1 channel is kept open with a specifically designed and very efficient protocol. It's not exchanging a lot of data just to keep the connection alive. (E.g. when you poll your e-mail you have a TCP handshake, an SSL handshake, an IMAP login and then a message list; much less efficient than the simple poll done by Apple.)
* Since no apps are pushing or polling themselves, they can be terminated or suspended completely without running stuff in the background. They don't wake up until the user responds to an Apple push message.
Elvis_Freshly said:
Mine too. I found that friendstream was the actual culprit. Even though it said "Display" i discovered that that includes widgets also. Took friendstream off my desktop and unchecked the HTC HUB & SYNC and I'm perfect now.
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I don't use hub or sense (though Sense is always listed in my running apps). My question is my screen is always 95% of the drain. You indicate that widgets are also included in the mix. I have Pure Messenger widgets, doubletwist (which is ALWAYS running even when its not a widget or activated by me), FB for android, Twitter, Twidroid and Friendcaster as widgets on my screens. However, I have Fcaster, Twitter, Twidroid and Pure messenger (for g-mail) polling every 4 hours. I am getting killed when I perform any extended action like taking a few pics and talking on the phone. If I open up any FB app I can watch the battery start to tick backwards like an odometer. Are these widgets responsible for this, though they are are scheduled for polling?
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I think you misunderstand push vs pull in this context.
Pretty much all home WiFi routers as well as many mobile operators put your phone behind NAT. Also, every time you change networks your phone may end up with a different IP address. This means your phone is effectively unreachable for push messages in the way that you describe: sitting idle waiting for a message.
To be addressable by the push server it will need to poll each time it changes IP. To work around the NAT issue it will need to poll frequently regardless of IP changes, just to keep an open channel. (This because NAT mappings time out after a short while.) Push in the traditional sense is cool just because your message arrive instantly.
The idea that push saves battery is really just because of how Apple introduced push. They don't allow other apps to poll or to keep a traditional push connections open in the background. Instead they force all apps to use their push system, which results in a number of battery savings:
* Keeping 1 channel open with Apple's server vs. tons of poll/push connections with various servers is more efficient, simply because there is much less activity.
* That 1 channel is kept open with a specifically designed and very efficient protocol. It's not exchanging a lot of data just to keep the connection alive. (E.g. when you poll your e-mail you have a TCP handshake, an SSL handshake, an IMAP login and then a message list; much less efficient than the simple poll done by Apple.)
* Since no apps are pushing or polling themselves, they can be terminated or suspended completely without running stuff in the background. They don't wake up until the user responds to an Apple push message.
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So traditionally push would usually take up less battery life? (with Apple, Blackberry) but with Android it eats more battery? hmm I like to get my mail pretty quickly so setting my email to poll every 15 minutes takes up less battery then if it was pushed? It just seems odd that it would eat more battery with android but the opposite on apple and BB devices (I only know about BB never owned an iphone or ipad, never will)
Elvis_Freshly said:
Mine too. I found that friendstream was the actual culprit. Even though it said "Display" i discovered that that includes widgets also. Took friendstream off my desktop and unchecked the HTC HUB & SYNC and I'm perfect now.
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How much of a battery increase did you notice from removing friend stream? I had the friend stream widget and just removed it. Hopefully that will help. I also use the HTC calendar widget, mail widget, weather widget and message widget
graffixnyc said:
How much of a battery increase did you notice from removing friend stream? I had the friend stream widget and just removed it. Hopefully that will help. I also use the HTC calendar widget, mail widget, weather widget and message widget
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I go from generally...well..let me give u today's numbers.
5:11pm Unplugged at 100%
8:54pm 74% with moderate usage. (Tweetdeck, 47 texts, Google Talk non stop, 5 phone calls about 15 minutes or so a piece)
I only have Engadget, Bookmarks, Google Music and power Widget on Display and I am doing great... i generally recharge once a day now.
So I am 100% sure Friendstream is the Display killer for battery and HTC Sense is the other culprit...Disable these 2 and you will see what I mean.
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So I am 100% sure Friendstream is the Display killer for battery and HTC Sense is the other culprit...Disable these 2 and you will see what I mean.
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How do you disable HTC Sense?
galaxys said:
How do you disable HTC Sense?
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I think he meant to disable HTC Hub from sync as mentioned earlier. If you use an alternative launcher I think you can use a task killer or app like android assistant to kill HTC Sense at start up. because even if you use another launcher it still runs in the background
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I think he meant to disable HTC Hub from sync as mentioned earlier. If you use an alternative launcher I think you can use a task killer or app like android assistant to kill HTC Sense at start up. because even if you use another launcher it still runs in the background
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I was kinda thinking the same and will be trying Zeam...thanks
Ive had my Omnia 7 with Mango RTM for about 3 weeks now and one of the most annoying things about it is the terrible UN-reliabiliy of push notifications. I don't care much about weather tiles or tweets but this things is utterly and completely useless for email.
Ive tried using both my @live and @gmail accounts set to "as item arrives" but it seems to only work for the first email. So many times i randomly check emails on the desktop to discover 3-4 new emails (sent 2hrs ago) and glancing on my phone there is none. It just says (email is up to date)
Anyone with advice please share otherwise its one of those things i cant cope with, might have to sadly go back to IOS. My iPhone 4 had "functional" email
Is ur data connection turned on? My email is working fine
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antmagpie said:
Is ur data connection turned on? My email is working fine
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Yes, i have excellent 3G signal where i live. Full bars
Wifi is also turned on but tried using data only and still push stop working after a few emails.
Considering 99.9% of users have reported extremely reliable push in Mango, including myself, I think the issue may be with your wireless carrier maybe dropping idle connections... Or another signal issue.
I have my Gmail set to receive every 15mins. Have you ticked the 'email' check box in 'content to synchronize' in Gmail settings? Otherwise I aint got any ideas. All my email accounts update on the start screen fine.
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Yep, my e-mail notifications work perfectly fine. No issues here. Sometimes, I get so many e-mails, my phone is too attentive to this fact and it gets annoying, but hey, at least that means its working.
i wasn't really hoping to hear positive news about push, means its just me
my latest setup is to have my phone @live id push everything but unticked the "sync email" and then created an outlook email account with the same @live email that syncs email, calendars etc with push
what does the "logging" bit have to do with email? its in email settings (off -recommended, basic, advanced)
my push works fine but just for the first few emails then for some reason it stops working. i wonder if its the constant connection/disconnection from wifi that trips it up
I have web.de...so it's a free email provider,too. Normally you can login every 15 mins at free mailproviders. My phone uses mango beta 1 and it loads every mail I get. Maybe you have set up something wrong...
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i wasn't really hoping to hear positive news about push, means its just me
my latest setup is to have my phone @live id push everything but unticked the "sync email" and then created an outlook email account with the same @live email that syncs email, calendars etc with push
what does the "logging" bit have to do with email? its in email settings (off -recommended, basic, advanced)
my push works fine but just for the first few emails then for some reason it stops working. i wonder if its the constant connection/disconnection from wifi that trips it up
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I've had this happening before on Nodo. I figured out I wasn't deleting enough emails, keeping loads of them as read for no particular reason and at some point the inbox on my phone would get full and stop synchronising. Happened about 3 times since I've had the phone and I solved that by deleting plenty of emails on the phone itself before doing a manual synchronisation.
I'm not saying it's the solution but that worked for me.
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Ive had my Omnia 7 with Mango RTM for about 3 weeks now and one of the most annoying things about it is the terrible UN-reliabiliy of push notifications. I don't care much about weather tiles or tweets but this things is utterly and completely useless for email.
Ive tried using both my @live and @gmail accounts set to "as item arrives" but it seems to only work for the first email. So many times i randomly check emails on the desktop to discover 3-4 new emails (sent 2hrs ago) and glancing on my phone there is none. It just says (email is up to date)
Anyone with advice please share otherwise its one of those things i cant cope with, might have to sadly go back to IOS. My iPhone 4 had "functional" email
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Same WP7 device, same eMail accounts, same problem, and I also have an iPhone 4 with full working push notification!
I'm trying to let them work... Keep in touch...
I have LG Optimus 7 with Mango RTM. Push notifications worked fine before Mango for both personal @live and corporate exchange mail. After Mango update push notifications has worked similarly as the first post describes (hasn't worked properly).
Today I manually added APN setting in mobile network settings and after that push notifications has worked. So for me the problem seemed to be a network connection issue, even if I was connected to WiFi.
Before Mango I had not touched APN settings in this phone and 3g did work.
It's worth knowing battery level also affects push reliability - to save power it turns the channel off when the charge is below around 25%.
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I have LG Optimus 7 with Mango RTM. Push notifications worked fine before Mango for both personal @live and corporate exchange mail. After Mango update push notifications has worked similarly as the first post describes (hasn't worked properly).
Today I manually added APN setting in mobile network settings and after that push notifications has worked. So for me the problem seemed to be a network connection issue, even if I was connected to WiFi.
Before Mango I had not touched APN settings in this phone and 3g did work.
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Not working for me...
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It's worth knowing battery level also affects push reliability - to save power it turns the channel off when the charge is below around 25%.
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I've two battery, so I never enable battery saver...
I'm waiting for the Hotmail event in San Fransisco and NYC: if tomorrow emails will not arrive in push, I'll hard reset my WP7... :-(
In this two days, sometimes emails arrive in push, and sometimes not. Also, if I manually sync, sometimes it gives 2-3 different sync errors... :S I hope that is a server problem that will solved soon... :-\
Hey guys,
Tried searching for this, but nada.
Anyone else having issues with your phone being idle but powered on ans upon bringing on the screen you receive a google talk notification that's old? Is been happening to me lately, and I can't tell if it's the phone or the fact that my desktop version is intercepting the message and preventing the phone notification.
I'm tempted to no longer use the desktop built in gmail version, but I wanted to see if others are having similar issues.
Thanks in advance!
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Can't guarantee this, but I have a feeling it may have something to do with the phone letting the Google talk process close when the phone is in it's sleep state. I've noted that I keep having to re sign in to gtalk when I wake up my phone and suspect that it is an issue with the horrible multitasking that HTC has bundled into sense 4.0.
I assume both of you also get delayed notifications with push email using the native Gmail app? I also frequently get logged out of Google Talk when I put the phone in standby mode. When I am logged out of Google Talk, my push emails are delayed in the Gmail app until I log back into Google Talk.
So it seems to be some problem of getting disconnected from google services when the phone is asleep.
I don't think i've been getting delayed notifications, but I do notice that my chat gets out of order a lot. My replies will be above whoever is talking to me no matter what order each was sent in.
Almost every phone that comes out gets a google talk going eventually so there is lots out there, but each phone has it's own issues. Here is a thread that was pretty good from the Galaxy Nexus Forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400367
With the HOX I have had issues with Google Talk not working great when the wifi is dropping, so this might be part of the wifi issue that pretty much everybody is having with this phone. The wifi stays connected but seems to go to sleep so your phone only gets the notification once it is woken up. Try turning off the wifi and seeing if you have the same problem.
As for Google Talk, there are some oddities that go along with using it on multiple devices. Here is some stuff I figured out playing around with it on multiple devices and computers at the same time. (I posted this in the GN forums as well)
"Google Talk is my main means of communication it seems so I have played with it a lot. Here are my observations.
1. To keep it "up" all the time in the Talk App hit the menu button (three dots now) >settings>uncheck automatic away status. Also make sure your phone has automatic syncing turned on for your gmail account: Setting>Accounts and Sync>ON (for your chat gmail address anyway). Additionally make sure your mobile data is turned on if you are ever off wifi: Settings>More>Mobile networks>Data Enabled (checked to turn on)
2. You can have up to 6 devices linked to your talk account at once, after that they just stop working.
3. When you receive a IM it appears on both your phone and your gmail account. If you start typing on the gmail account (or G+) it hijacks the whole session and you phone no longer gets the notifications, but the conversation still shows up on the chat window on the phone. When you are done with the IM session make sure you close the window on gmail (or G+) and send one last message from your phone or tablet to take the session back over, if you don't your phone will not receive future chat notifications. You can also just log out of your gmail/G+ session and it will automatically return everything to your phone/tablet but who ever does that?
4. To figure out how it all worked and tinker with it I use both of my gmail accounts and chat back and forth with them. You can do it from separate browsers or just open an incognito window in Chrome and log into your other gmail account. I would recommend this so you can see all of this stuff in practice.
Good Luck, hope this helps"
Gtalk and gmail delays
Hi all,
I have performed tests and discovered that if i disable WiFI and only use the phone's data connection "4g" or LTE that i receive all my messages with no problem even when the phone locks/goes to sleep. However if i leave wifi turned on, within 5-10 seconds i stop receiving them and will only receive them when i wake up the phone/unlock or wait for the delay which can be anywhere from 5-15 mins.
Trying to figure out a way to by pass this, but can't seem to figure it out. I don't want to keep my wifi off when i'm at work or home so i don't use data as i have 3GB and not unlimited so it kind of sucks that i have to keep wifi off for now. Any thoughts/ideas would be great, thanks.
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Can't guarantee this, but I have a feeling it may have something to do with the phone letting the Google talk process close when the phone is in it's sleep state. I've noted that I keep having to re sign in to gtalk when I wake up my phone and suspect that it is an issue with the horrible multitasking that HTC has bundled into sense 4.0.
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This. I have issues with timely/accurate reception of notifications from GV. I only use my account for voicemail, but typically I only get voicemail notifications if I open the actual application (which I do because my gmail account receives an email notification now, as well). Sometimes I notice GV as a running task, but often times not, so to me it seems that (possibly) multitasking or some other form of process management in ICS or Sense is not prioritizing the GV process and it's associated actions. I dont mind the aggressive multitasking, but it would be nice to have the option of protecting some processes, such as GV.
I removed google + app completely with titanium backup, and the problem is gone., I get the messages immediately
Push Notifications Fixer can fix it
xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142503
play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andqlimax.pushfixer
I'm running the latest Viper, I've never had an issue receiving or sending msgs. The only time the phone won't alert me is if I am actively typing in the browser window.
I'll note though that I never have wifi on, it's always on the mobile network.
andQlimax said:
Push Notifications Fixer can fix it
xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142503
play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andqlimax.pushfixer
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I tried everything not even this works for me
Same problem, screen off - phone disconnects, unlock the phone - messages start to appear
Same problem on 2 different phones and 2 different numbers
I don't use G Talk, but I see the same thing with G Voice. I almost never get voicemail notifications on my HOX (they show up instantly on my old GNex). I blame Sense (for this and other things).
Same problem, but with Nexus 4 when I am on WiFi. With data connection, it works without problems.
I've noticed that my Mail app - which I only use for corporate exchange email - occasionally causes extremely heavy battery drain, enough to kill 40-50% battery life halfway through a day. I've found no pattern for the problem, but here's what I've noticed so far when having the issue:
-Mail using upwards of 50-60% of battery consumption
-Outgoing Mail hangs up and requires multiple resend attempts and/or killing the mail service and retrying a few times.
-Settings>Apps> Running list shows 2 mail apps: EASAppSvc and EASDirectPush, running for different durations of time. (typically only shows EASAppSvc when functioning 'normally.')
-Task Manager always shows just the one main Mail app.
-Killing DirectPush seems to help the problem, but not sure if this is directly related or just triggers something else.
I can't tell if this is related to my corporate server or my phone, but while I'm at work, I've noticed my desktop email application (Outlook) working as expected but the phone Mail app having the apparent sync connectivity issues.
Currently fully stock on the OTA version of 1.85. Had the same problem on fully stock 1.73, as well. Any thoughts on how to fix this connection issue or at least what may be the root of the problem? Has anyone else had this happen? There are a number of posts about activesync delays, but all of my mail is coming in on time and as expected, it's just the sending and constant battery drain that seem to pop up for me.
Other settings of note:
-Push email during peak (not smartsync).
-Peak time set to 7am-10pm. Off peak sync set to every hour.