Design of the TF201 mobile dock hinge - Asus Transformer TF700

Originally noticed by nivlheim_?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27958815&postcount=8
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The keyboard hinge was poorly designed because one of the side doesn't match the level of the other.
Basically buyers are assuming the combo they're buying is indeed genuine TF700 mobile dock so it was advertised with inclusion of mobile dock and doesn't tell you which one they'll sell it to you, and afterwards you realizes its the TF201 mobile dock although it works with TF700, it's color mismatches, it's design also mismatches, and doesn't fit properly as it should.
One side is a little bit higher than the other side when you fold the two together right side of the tablet partially touches the keyboard and you can imagine the rest.

checked it right now...and i have also a TF201-Dock (shipped with the TF700).
Colors are the same, and it fits perfect.
Im Happy!

Super-S said:
checked it right now...and i have also a TF201-Dock (shipped with the TF700).
Colors are the same, and it fits perfect.
Im Happy!
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I have the TF201 dock as well, as it shipped with the TF700T. The color might seem to mismatch a tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiny bit, depending on the angle of light incidence, and the mismatch in the pattern engraving doesn't help there -- nothing obvious, though. I can't fault the fit, however, as it is perfect. Nothing is touching where it should not, and all is smooth as butter.

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Build quality question

Just a quick question for other TF700 owners. I originally bought a Prime and had the bad wifi issues, exchanged it for another with no improvement so I held out for the Infinity. I now have my Infinity and the screen is loose on the right hand side about 2/3 of the way down. If you press it you can feel the give and hear a popping sound. I'm just curious if this is an isolated incident or if a loose screen an issue with the Infinity. I love the tablet and honestly have no clue what I would get instead but, for $500 I expect better build quality.
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Just a quick question for other TF700 owners. I originally bought a Prime and had the bad wifi issues, exchanged it for another with no improvement so I held out for the Infinity. I now have my Infinity and the screen is loose on the right hand side about 2/3 of the way down. If you press it you can feel the give and hear a popping sound. I'm just curious if this is an isolated incident or if a loose screen an issue with the Infinity. I love the tablet and honestly have no clue what I would get instead but, for $500 I expect better build quality.
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I have this issue too. Both the right hand side and left hand side, and a few additional places (7 areas in total). When I closed pad on the dock station a crack formed between one of these two weak areas where screen is loose, and all points to glass cracking exactly because the strains were not supported by chassis. And I closed it the same way I closed it a few other times before (only owned it for about a month).
If you need more description in pictures, there's a thread about defects (it lists clicking/loose screen as one of defects by the way) in this same forum.
I hope that my crack is just an isolated case. This is only my personal opinion based on experience I had, but I would keep bothering the wherever you got your tablet until they give you one without loose screen.
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Just a quick question for other TF700 owners. I originally bought a Prime and had the bad wifi issues, exchanged it for another with no improvement so I held out for the Infinity. I now have my Infinity and the screen is loose on the right hand side about 2/3 of the way down. If you press it you can feel the give and hear a popping sound. I'm just curious if this is an isolated incident or if a loose screen an issue with the Infinity. I love the tablet and honestly have no clue what I would get instead but, for $500 I expect better build quality.
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Mines clicking in the exact same spot you described. Doesn't seem to be getting worse, and if it doesn't I don't think it will bother me that much. But still, for the money we're paying its inexcusable.
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Same clicking above the microSD slot and on the opposite side -> same location. But it does not really bother me.
Mine clicks a little right above the dock port on the bottom.
I'm not considering it a problem at this point.
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I have this issue too. Both the right hand side and left hand side, and a few additional places (7 areas in total). When I closed pad on the dock station a crack formed between one of these two weak areas where screen is loose, and all points to glass cracking exactly because the strains were not supported by chassis. And I closed it the same way I closed it a few other times before (only owned it for about a month).
If you need more description in pictures, there's a thread about defects (it lists clicking/loose screen as one of defects by the way) in this same forum.
I hope that my crack is just an isolated case. This is only my personal opinion based on experience I had, but I would keep bothering the wherever you got your tablet until they give you one without loose screen.
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In the Nexus 7 forum there were a number of complaints about the screen lifting, and most were found to be caused by screws that were over tightened below the areas of lift. The Nexus 7 back is easy to remove, and I wouldn't suggest doing this with the TF700, but they are both recent ASUS devices and there seems to be a possibility they could suffer from the same issue. By the way. it turns out that only a small % of Nexus 7 owners experienced screen lift, but some had multiple devices with this issue. Mine is flawless, as are the vast majority. I think that must be true for the TF700 as well. Mine is perfect, too.
Just checked. Mine has a VERY slight, not quite popping, but like a small"tic" when pressed by SD slot. Had to listen really close to hear it. My prime was nothing but problems, Wi-Fi weak, GPS totally worthless, and camera was unacceptably bad, grainy quality pics.
My Infinity is everything prime was not. Extremely pleased with it. Only problem I've noticed is I/O lag. And hopefully, that will be fixed with jelly bean.
One other thing, mine WOULD NOT OTA update. Had to d load to micro card.
Other than that, I LOVE MY INFINITY!
I don't see any issues with the building quality. I have not struggled to find flaws . my only complaint is lag and performance. Hopefully these are fixable sw issues that the jb update will fix or someone will create a good ROM to unleash this tablet.
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Build quality for mine is terrific. No complaints at all at this point.
Sitting in the airport lounge right now where my TF201 didn't get a WiFi signal. TF700 has -50dB at 54Mbps.
Build quality and performance are exactly what I would expect for a premium priced tablet.
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My first one was perfect physically, but I had to return it. My second one has the popping on the left and there's noticeable give on the bottom, right above the left keyboard dock slot (that is, you can push the screen into the casing). I'm guessing its not a big deal since there are others who have reported similar things.
I have the popping sound when applying pressure to the display on the right side, kind of where the speaker sits. I used to have a slight bulge / screen seperation above the microSD slot, but that completely went away after I left my Infinity lieing in the sun for a few hours (not on purpose, I just forgot about it and that thing got HOT).
I hope this is an isolated case (though my "popping" wasn't so severe, I didn't pay attention to it either!), but just so you know, this is what happened when I normally (no extra force) closed it with my dock station.
I initially ignored the problem too. So be careful when handling it around dock station (if I'm right, it's only bending which is created by dock station that can do this, simply holding it in hand or closing dock station by holding it in middle will not cause any cracks or damage).

Little bit more give in upper left corner of screen.

Are all infinitys like that? Mine feels a bit more squishy at the top of the left edge of the panel in landscape. Nothing major, no clicking or anything. There just seems to be a bit more give in the area. Strange thing is, the Prime I traded in to get the infinity had the same issue in the exact same spot. Anyone else notice this on their tablet. It's not preventing me from enjoying me tablet and doesn't boether me, just wondering if it's normal.
My infinity has a little more give on the left side of the screen. It's quite annoying actually. When I spend several hundred euros for a product I expect it to have good build quality. Thinking of trading the unit, but I don't think my retailer will allow me to do so.
I agree but it really isn't something you feel unless intentionally pushing that spot pretty firmly. I've got a feeling it may have something to do with all the jacks and ports on the left side of the tablet. Maybe it's the same for everyone.
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I've got a feeling it may have something to do with all the jacks and ports on the left side of the tablet.
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You're probably right. While I notice mine has some flex in six places - center of each side and two top and bottom, one on either side of the rear camera and docking connector - which I assume to be the points between the mounting clips, the worst place is right next to the microSD slot.
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Yes I think mine is worse too near the sd slot. I wonder if retailers will accept it as RMA or something, but then again I am not sure if I want to lose my tablet for a few days over such a minor issue.
I suggest to let the issue go if it is your only issue. I'm totally ok with it. I'm on my 3rd infinity, 1st one had a lot of light bleed, 2nd one had a noisy vibrator which was really annoying, 3rd one has no bleed and no other issue other than this screen flex on one side. Even if playing a driving gyroscope game I wouldn't feel the flex unless I were gripping very tightly. The worst part about it is that I know it's there, otherwise it doesn't affect my experience with the tablet. Just curious as to whether it's normal or common, seems it may be.

How many times have you exchanged your Infinity?

Topic.
1: Volume rocker did not work properly.
2: Many scratches on the backplate.
3: loose screen causing clicking noise.
Twice.
#1 - Wifi died after a week.
#2 - Screen was completely detached on one side out of the box.
Almost returned my third since it looked like the spring was missing from my SD card slot (that is, the card went in with no resistance and wouldn't push in to pop out)... but on a whim I decided to try it again right before I finished boxing it back up and it started working.
Its a great tablet, but Asus really needs to improve their quality control.
ZROW
Returned mine no times...
Thought about it-didn't do it.
0 cakes out of infinity
did not return my tablet, was flawless unit
Did the Infinity even come with plastic covers for the keyboard dock connections and the charging port like the TF201 model? The Infinity I saw, brand new right out of the box there were no plastic protective covers at all.
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Did the Infinity even come with plastic covers for the keyboard dock connections and the charging port like the TF201 model? The Infinity I saw, brand new right out of the box there were no plastic protective covers at all.
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All three of mine had the cover on the dock connector itself, but not the two slots where it connected to the dock.
Edit: Sigh... Now I"m considering returning mine for the third time. When I got it, I noticed the screen could be pushed in a little along the bottom, like it wasnt completely attached but I figured it'd be ok since it was just one spot. Now its doing it along the top. My local best buy has them in-store now so I could exchange it no problems, but I've been holding off during my return period before unlocking and I dont want to push that back again...
I heard you can get banned for 90 days from Best Buy if you return too much... They scan your driver's license to keep a log of your returns. Not sure if it applies to defective tablets but they will probably assume that you're doing the damage one day. Anyways, time to exchange it.
Zero. Slight clicking sound. GPS is a bit slow. Nothing else.
4: Loose screen, clicking noise
5: Loose screen, clicking noise
6: Loose screen, clicking noise
7: 5 pieces of dust under screen.
This is outrageous.
Vibrating Motor didn't work at all.
This one is perfect. Everything works great. No creeking of the screen, no light bleed no problems what so ever. For now.
4 times....... 1- had dust under screen, 2- dead pixels, 3-dust under screen 4-dead pixels again, and the one I currently have seems like a keeper, I am used to it already as I had to do the same for the Prime and tf300 at least twice, but once I got a good one it held up good, Im very satisfied with the one I currently have. the infinity is clearly a beast!
8: dusts under screen
Finally got a good one on my ninth... everything is good except for the minor lightbleed but IDC I have found THE ONE!
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8: dusts under screen
Finally got a good one on my ninth... everything is good except for the minor lightbleed but IDC I have found THE ONE!
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I highly doubt you can go through 9 units in 2 days. Are you near a real store?
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Keion said:
I highly doubt you can go through 9 units in 2 days. Are you near a real store?
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I live between two BB stores that are under 3 miles away.
I work in the city where two BB stores are less than 1 mile away so I can walk.
I also open the box in the store after exchanging and check for problems. If I do, I exchange it again. Started this after my fourth exchange cause I was getting annoyed driving back and forth.
wow. I feel lucky. I got mine first week available in North America and have NO issues. no dust, no light bleed. Been working great. No complaints, except with Chome being a big laggy.
Zero.
Original TF101 - 7 TIMES. Yup..dead pixels, blemishes on screen, dead WIFI, crappy QA until I got a good one.
TF201 - Twice. Dead pixels, dead GPS. End of romance.
TF700 - Returned once. Original one had cosmetic imperfections (large dark stain/spot on the side), loose screen and clicking on left side of screen. Picked up another one, PERFECTION. No dead pixels, no clicking, no cosmetic damage.
Zero. No problems in 3 weeks.
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wow
Really This is shocking to hear. I bought mine online from america, because I couldnt buy the cheaper speced version here. But mine is perfect thank god. I do actually have a very slight clicky sound in one of the corners. But I'll live with that. I don't really know what I could do if this craps out on me.
Asus really need to work on their QC...
No returns on my infinity yet, I have had mine for almost 30 days (have 60days for BB returns). Have a 2yr ADH from square trade just incase. Looks like this infinity is a keeper.
My primes on the other hand was just a QC problems after QC problems... very dissapointed with the prime.

Asus Tranformer Infinity 4K Wish List

Hope someone at Asus reads this!
Louder, front facing stereo speakers
Even louder speakers on the keyboard battery dock
Direct Power toggle switch for switching between internal tablet battery and keyboard dock battery (instead of charging the internal, which is only 40% efficient)
86 the touch pad to make room for a larger battery
Neo3D said:
Hope someone at Asus reads this!
Louder, front facing stereo speakers
Even louder speakers on the keyboard battery dock
Direct Power toggle switch for switching between internal tablet battery and keyboard dock battery (instead of charging the internal, which is only 40% efficient)
86 the touch pad to make room for a larger battery
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How does one 86 something? I can guarantee all of this will not be on the new TF tablet.
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How does one 86 something? I can guarantee all of this will not be on the new TF tablet.
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That's too bad. It would've been cool if the new keyboard dock had loud built in speakers.
The audio on the TF700 is pretty low.
They're not going to get rid of the touchpad. That's like telling Ford to get rid of the steering wheel in their new cars. The point of a Transformer is that it's a Tablet/Laptop combo. I, for one, use the touchpad a lot.
If there's front facing speakers, the bezel will get even bigger. No, thanks. The GT2 10.1 has frontfacing speakers. And it's humongous. So much, in fact, that I believe they've been moved to the back in the GT3.
Speakers on the dock, not going to happen. A tablet doesn't send audio across the power plug. Also, Speakers on dock = less room for battery. You just asked for a bigger one..
Toggle switch, nope. Also not happening. Too messy for people who don't use the dock, and potentially too damaging to both batteries. Plus Google would have to incorporate the option into Android itself for it to work.
Bit unrealistic wishlist..
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They're not going to get rid of the touchpad. That's like telling Ford to get rid of the steering wheel in their new cars. The point of a Transformer is that it's a Tablet/Laptop combo. I, for one, use the touchpad a lot.
Speakers on the dock, not going to happen. Also, Speakers on dock = less room for battery. You just asked for a bigger one..
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Okay, leave the touch pad in. For me, it's too small to even be useful, esp when you have a touch screen.
If there's front facing speakers, the bezel will get even bigger. No, thanks. The GT2 10.1 has frontfacing speakers. And it's humongous. So much, in fact, that I believe they've been moved to the back in the GT3.
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Sorry, you're wrong. These are tablets, not phones. Phones will eventually have zero bezels. No way that same trend is going to happen with tablets. Tablets need bezels because that's what people use to hold them. The Nexus 10 has front firing speakers and it sounds better than any tablet. There's no harm is making a tablet bezel slightly larger, it just means more area for people to hold + larger chassis for larger batteries. The race to be thin and small (bezel-less) makes no sense if a tablet can only get 6hrs screen-on time.
A tablet doesn't send audio across the power plug.
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It's not a power plug, it's a proprietary Asus connector, so if they wanted to, they could send audio to more beefy speakers built into the dock.
Also, Speakers on dock = less room for battery.
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Sorry, you're wrong about this too....there's plenty of space on both sides of the touch pad to add some speakers. There is no battery underneath that horizontal area directly under and on both sides of the touchpad, it's empty space...a perfect place to add some some top firing speakers. Look it up, Google is your friend plus, adding awesome sounding speakers to the dock would give people another reason to buy the dock accessory...esp true since the speakers on the TF700 are weak and sound so low.
Toggle switch, nope. Also not happening. Too messy for people who don't use the dock, and potentially too damaging to both batteries. Plus Google would have to incorporate the option into Android itself for it to work.
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The toggle switch would be a software switch. Google wouldn't have to incorporate anything, this is Android. The manufacturers add things to it, not Google. How do you think the dual battery icon in the notifications area was made? You thought Google did that? LOL :laugh: Yea, Asus did not go to Google and ask them to do that for them. Asus did it themselves.
And there is no possible way that having a system with two batteries that can directly power the device is damaging to both batteries. Perhaps you don't understand that this concept is? The current battery system works by having the dock battery charge the tablet battery. This system is VERY INEFFICIENT, only about 40% efficient from my calculations. It's like having a 10Whr battery in the dock but only getting 4Whr of real battery use out of it because you're not using the power directly but instead using it to charge another battery. If Asus switched to a direct power dual battery system, you would get 100% battery use from the dock battery versus a pathetic 40% what we get now. It's like having a swappable battery in a phone. However, instead of swapping out the dead battery for a fresh one, you just flip a software toggle switch and the tablet starts using the dock's battery instead of the internal one.
The reason why Asus went with the dual battery charging system instead of a dual battery direct power system is because the former is easier to design, from an electrical engineering standpoint and therefore cheaper.
The touchpad is no smaller than the one on my 17.3" laptop.... I much prefer to have the option to use a touchpad, especially when I'm watching films. I use handcream fairly often, and the touchpad is a lifesaver. I don't want to have to clean my screen every other minute... And a mouse isn't useful without a surface.
The speakers aren't weak if you use the right app. Try Diceplayer. You can set it to 400%, my neighbours came over asking if I could please turn the sound down a notch.
I didn't say the bezel needed to dissapear, where did you get that one from? I said it should not get LARGER.
And they wouldn't add speakers to the dock... It would render their Audio Dock (which is meant for the speakers!) redundant. https://www.asus.com/Tablet_Mobile_Accessories/Audio_Dock/
There is a significant difference between adding another icon and changing the entire power schematic. Anyone can add a secondary battery image, most battery apps do it. Found an app yet that can change the power flow? No, didn't think so.
They've released pictures and it's pretty much identical in design.
That said. The notion is good.
Maybe not front facing speakers but speakers built into the dock would be immense
Exactly it looks to be using the same housing as the infinity does now so no dreams have come true this time.
My safest guess is that none of the things in your wish list is going to materialize, especially when all the hands-on videos have shown that the new Infinity will have the exact same design, ports, etc... as our tf700 (ASUS still can change things around, but it is highly unlikely). The speakers have never been my concern. What I would like ASUS to improve is actually the glossy screen, too much glare and reflection to use the tablet outside (even though the brightness is awesome).
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Okay, leave the touch pad in. For me, it's too small to even be useful, esp when you have a touch screen.
Sorry, you're wrong. These are tablets, not phones. Phones will eventually have zero bezels. No way that same trend is going to happen with tablets. Tablets need bezels because that's what people use to hold them. The Nexus 10 has front firing speakers and it sounds better than any tablet. There's no harm is making a tablet bezel slightly larger, it just means more area for people to hold + larger chassis for larger batteries. The race to be thin and small (bezel-less) makes no sense if a tablet can only get 6hrs screen-on time.
It's not a power plug, it's a proprietary Asus connector, so if they wanted to, they could send audio to more beefy speakers built into the dock.
Sorry, you're wrong about this too....there's plenty of space on both sides of the touch pad to add some speakers. There is no battery underneath that horizontal area directly under and on both sides of the touchpad, it's empty space...a perfect place to add some some top firing speakers. Look it up, Google is your friend plus, adding awesome sounding speakers to the dock would give people another reason to buy the dock accessory...esp true since the speakers on the TF700 are weak and sound so low.
The toggle switch would be a software switch. Google wouldn't have to incorporate anything, this is Android. The manufacturers add things to it, not Google. How do you think the dual battery icon in the notifications area was made? You thought Google did that? LOL :laugh: Yea, Asus did not go to Google and ask them to do that for them. Asus did it themselves.
And there is no possible way that having a system with two batteries that can directly power the device is damaging to both batteries. Perhaps you don't understand that this concept is? The current battery system works by having the dock battery charge the tablet battery. This system is VERY INEFFICIENT, only about 40% efficient from my calculations. It's like having a 10Whr battery in the dock but only getting 4Whr of real battery use out of it because you're not using the power directly but instead using it to charge another battery. If Asus switched to a direct power dual battery system, you would get 100% battery use from the dock battery versus a pathetic 40% what we get now. It's like having a swappable battery in a phone. However, instead of swapping out the dead battery for a fresh one, you just flip a software toggle switch and the tablet starts using the dock's battery instead of the internal one.
The reason why Asus went with the dual battery charging system instead of a dual battery direct power system is because the former is easier to design, from an electrical engineering standpoint and therefore cheaper.
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Say all you want ShadowLea = not Asus and I agree this wish less is very unrealistic. If they wanted that toggle switch thing you keep blabbing on about that maggicly makes the tablet more efficient they would have done it which I highly doubt the method you are getting at even works.You've taken Asus numbers and crunched them into your calculator, which is the wrong way to do it. This dock will only last under Asus testing standards but realistically it will never last that long.
Edit: I can agree on the dock speakers though.
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huy_lonewolf said:
My safest guess is that none of the things in your wish list is going to materialize, especially when all the hands-on videos have shown that the new Infinity will have the exact same design, ports, etc... as our tf700 (ASUS still can change things around, but it is highly unlikely). The speakers have never been my concern. What I would like ASUS to improve is actually the glossy screen, too much glare and reflection to use the tablet outside (even though the brightness is awesome).
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Asus cant please everyone but a matted screen would be a horrrible idea for a tablet. Luckly this can be fixed by adding a glare resistant screen protector so everyone's happy
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Asus cant please everyone but a matted screen would be a horrrible idea for a tablet.
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Why? Because you could no longer use it as a mirror?
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Why? Because you could no longer use it as a mirror?
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no because it distorts the overall color and clarity of the screen and viewing angles are terrible making colors look strange at certin angles. plus you can not get screen protectors to make a matted screen look glossy which most people would preffer on a tablet but you can make a glossy screen glare resistant with a screen protector thus everyone is happy. Come on man think about it! luckily ASUS doesn't take ideas from these threads.
Edit: idk maybe its an age group thing
A matte screen reduces colour depths, sharpness and brightness by about 30%.
On other tabs i agree about the glare under light, but the tf700 is bright enough to compensate. If the screen brightness is higher than the environmental light, you cant see the glare.
And you can train your eyes to focus past the glare. (the same way you adapt to a HUD.)
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no because it distorts the overall color and clarity of the screen and viewing angles are terrible making colors look strange at certin angles. plus you can not get screen protectors to make a matted screen look glossy which most people would preffer on a tablet but you can make a glossy screen glare resistant with a screen protector thus everyone is happy. Come on man think about it! luckily ASUS doesn't take ideas from these threads.
Edit: idk maybe its an age group thing
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I did not suggest that ASUS should go with matte screen, the point is that they can try to reduce the glare. One way other OEMs achieve that is to use optically bonded displays, which can be found on the iPhone 5, Optimus G, HTC One, etc... Why shouldn't ASUS try the same thing? I am no expert, but it obviously works quite well for phones. Even the Retina MacBook Pro has some tricks to reduce glare.
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A matte screen reduces colour depths, sharpness and brightness by about 30%.
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Yes it does reduce overall contrast, but in increases readability in bright environments.
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On other tabs i agree about the glare under light, but the tf700 is bright enough to compensate.
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Bright enough for indoor use, but still unusable in sunlight. There is a good reason why ebook readers do not have a glossy display.
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If the screen brightness is higher than the environmental light, you cant see the glare.
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...which doesn't work e.g. with white text on a black background, the typical terminal emulation.
ShadowLea said:
And you can train your eyes to focus past the glare. (the same way you adapt to a HUD.)
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You don't read longer text on a HUD.
I don't say a matte display is *better* than a glossy one (and I agree that it is possible to apply a matte screen protector on a glossy display), but it does have its own advantages and disadvantages, and I don't think it's such "a horrrible idea".
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Yes it does reduce overall contrast, but in increases readability in bright environments.
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True. But I'd rather have to put on a temporary protector than give up the thing that makes this screen so beautiful.
Bright enough for indoor use, but still unusable in sunlight. There is a good reason why ebook readers do not have a glossy display.
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I have a matte erearder (for use in the moments when a 700 euro device is not a good idea, like at the beach or in less safe neighbourhoods.), but it's less readable than my TF700 in sunlight. Unless I make the stupid decision to directly reflect the sun in my face .
The TF700 is the only display I can read with sunglasses on, though. Everything else is just black or nearly black.
...which doesn't work e.g. with white text on a black background, the typical terminal emulation.
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I have all my ereader apps set to night mode, because I absolutely hate white backgrounds (hurts my eyes.). But I haven't had any readability issues with the TF700.
You don't read longer text on a HUD.
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I'd use Google Glass to read ebooks if I could afford one.
I don't say a matte display is *better* than a glossy one (and I agree that it is possible to apply a matte screen protector on a glossy display), but it does have its own advantages and disadvantages, and I don't think it's such "a horrrible idea".
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No, it's not a horrible idea. But if I had to choose between glossy and matte, i'd go with glossy.
I bought a matte screen protector last year. It made t screen look like a kind e-reader. Fantastic for reading books horrible for everything else. Took it off after week.
I don't know the solution to the direct sunlight problem.
sorry, I was accidentlly in the wrong thread
huy_lonewolf said:
My safest guess is that none of the things in your wish list is going to materialize, especially when all the hands-on videos have shown that the new Infinity will have the exact same design, ports, etc... as our tf700 (ASUS still can change things around, but it is highly unlikely). The speakers have never been my concern. What I would like ASUS to improve is actually the glossy screen, too much glare and reflection to use the tablet outside (even though the brightness is awesome).
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Yea, it's sad that the new dock looks essentially the same as the TF201 dock.
It's good for current dock owners but bad for Asus.
I will probably upgrade to the Infinity 4K but use my original TF201 dock.
They could've sold a new dock with every new tablet if they had built in speakers and a new power management system.
Yes, and it would have made a lot of upgrading customers very angry in the process.. The backwards dock compatibility is a favour to us.
If every tab had a new, incompatible dock, we would be complaining about being ripped off.
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Fintie Blade X1 Keyboard Case

Has anyone tried this on their 8.4? I was thinking I would wait for Samsung to come out with one for the 8.4 like they have for the 10.5. But I came acrross this one on Amazon and thought I might actually like this one better...especially since it's a LOT cheaper than the Samsung accessory.
http://www.amazon.com/Fintie-Blade-...913&sr=1-1&keywords=galaxy+tab+s+8.4+keyboard
I guess if you don't mind your 400 tablets screen beeing ground against a 30 dollar piece of plastic. ..
There is actually an genuine Samsung keyboard for the 8.4. Here it is
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Ori...=UTF8&qid=1412020805&sr=8-3&keywords=EJ-CT700
Only thing is that the bronze version....which is the one I want, has both English AND Korean characters on the keys. Strangely it seems that the white version only has English. What's happening there i wonder? Also the bronze version is actually shipped from Korea.
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Not too sure how it works. I bought the FINTIE SMARTSHELL CASE FOR SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB S 8.4 - NAVY (one without the keyboard) http://www.fintie.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=667_801_804&product_id=5140 online. Excellent quality product but the magnets on the cover interferes with the device. It puts the device to sleep randomly and often I notice interference bands on the screen.
Geoux did a good review post here and confirms the same issue .. seems we may have to stick with the original book cover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEres5l0dXU
The magnetic features did not seem to be evident here.
I just got one of these keyboards througfh my local Verizon store. I didn't know what I'd get, but it was clearly labelled Finte and there is no Verizon branding on it. The Keyboard is somewhat small, but usable. I'm typing this post as my initial run with the keyboard. I have above average size hands and was expecting more difficulty than I'm having. I'm not a great typist and have issues of some degree with any keyboard. The keys are responsive and provide a good tactile response. As with every keyboard I use, I would love to be able to disable the CAPS LOCK. Otherthan that, this is a pretty nice small keyboard.
When I first tried this at home, I simply folded down the lid of my laptop, which is also my desktop. The Finte attached firmly to the laptop, and refused to do anything. So I took it off the laptop, put it off to the side and just used the wooden desk top. The Finte has no issues, either here, or on any neutral non magnetic surface.
Great case and keyboard for $40.00.

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