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I just learned tonight that as of Thursday, 3 days from now, 4G data plans will be capped.
The new cap will be 5GB. Pricing overage is not specified just yet, I would assume the standard $10/GB overage.
This is for any NEW customers and any upgrades done AFTER this day. Anyone who already has a TBolt is grandfathered in (myself included). Spread the word, and let your friends/family know should they need a truly unlimited plan.
I would expect an announcement tomorrow sometime. Just wanted to let you guys know.
And the gospel has spoke. I am grandfathered young skywalker.
fillyo said:
And the gospel has spoke. I am grandfathered young skywalker.
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The unlimited data is strong with this one...
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This is the reason I upgraded immediately, even if it required paying full retail
My business rep has also told me that people getting 4G data plans better do it now, before it changes. He did not tell me this Thursday, but his feeling was no more than 30 days after the TB was released. He also told me there's no guarantee anyone on the unlim plans will be grandfathered.
This is what I was afraid of.. glad I JUST got mine lol
I knew the unlimited 4G data wouldn't last until the Droid Bionic. Glad I have my Thunderbolt.
i am in the door but i still am going to sell TB when bionic comes out
rajuabju said:
My business rep has also told me that people getting 4G data plans better do it now, before it changes. He did not tell me this Thursday, but his feeling was no more than 30 days after the TB was released. He also told me there's no guarantee anyone on the unlim plans will be grandfathered.
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There would be lots of trouble for not grandfathering people already up and running on unlimited 4G data plans. If it isn't in the contract they can't suddenly put it into the contract. Additionally as the TB currently offers no built in mechanism to turn off 4G for those who got it under the concept of it having unlimited data would have to be offered the option to return their phones, etc... Seriously it'd be a PR nightmare/huge trouble for VZW to not grandfather people in, its the same reason AT&T did it for people who already had unlimited plans when they moved to a tiered system.
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There would be lots of trouble for not grandfathering people already up and running on unlimited 4G data plans. If it isn't in the contract they can't suddenly put it into the contract.
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That was my thought to it also. Cant change my contract just bc they want to. Thats why we have contracts, to lock things in place
So what happens when we want to move onto another 4g device? Are they going to allow us to transfer our 4g plan to the new device and retain our unlimited? I'd imagine since the LTE sim is swappable.. we can probably just pop it into another device and keep unlimited..
Any thoughts?
Wow I just signed up for Verizon today and got the Thunderbolt I signed up for the Unlimited plan looks like its a good thing I did seeing this tonight
So glad I bought my Tbird on release day.
So pissed that Verizon would do this. After the gov't sat on their hands and made them go either unlimited or 5GB (not "5GB unlimited") in years past, their CDMA based data plans have been unlimited ever since. REALLY unlimited. Unless you're in the 95th percentile. Maybe.
But now they're going the way of the greedy [email protected]#[email protected]#%(^#$^$$%#$$ at AT&T? What happened to the carrier that was both reliable-thanks-CDMA and consumer-friendly-thanks-Sprint, in the same package?
Major regression. Very unhappy. I'm glad I have grandfathered, but I wonder if I will be forced over to a 5GB plan in two years when my contract expires.
Can we get some sort of confirmation to this rumor?
I'm glad I became a Verizon customer this past Sunday. I was with T-Mobile till the news broke out. I refuse to give AT&T any of my money!
Anyway, I'm glad I made this move. The Thunderbolt is crazy fast, and I'm very happy with it. Oh, only 1 thing I did hate.... My battery died after 3 hours of being fully charged.
Diversion said:
So what happens when we want to move onto another 4g device? Are they going to allow us to transfer our 4g plan to the new device and retain our unlimited? I'd imagine since the LTE sim is swappable.. we can probably just pop it into another device and keep unlimited..
Any thoughts?
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I'd think that switching devices isn't an issue. Take AT&T they only forced people to tiered if they change out of the unlimited data plan. As their entry level tiered was priced at like $15/mo vs $30 so some people who didn't use much data chose to do that but never could get unlimited again. Also for developers and the like switching between devices for testing on Verizon it seems to require switching a phone ID and activating that device, but I assume with 4G the sim card would only need to be moved? I'm unsure as to how that works, but I'll likely need to move between my TB, which arrives tomorrow, and my Incredible for development purposes. So I'm sure I'll figure out the details soon.
Can we get some sort of confirmation to this rumor?
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I assume until Verizon makes an official statement it'll remain a rumor. Regardless, sooner than I've been hearing. I'd heard tiered by the summer. But suppose a test run for a week might be enough to see what kind of saturation to expect network wise. But think before the bionics release would be a reasonable guess. But well wish it wasn't headed that way. Think the approach of I think sprint just charging an additional $10/mo if you want 4G isn't a bad business model. Plus the users who get these phones and barely use any data would likely offset from those who do...
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I'd think that switching devices isn't an issue. Take AT&T they only forced people to tiered if they change out of the unlimited data plan. As their entry level tiered was priced at like $15/mo vs $30 so some people who didn't use much data chose to do that but never could get unlimited again. Also for developers and the like switching between devices for testing on Verizon it seems to require switching a phone ID and activating that device, but I assume with 4G the sim card would only need to be moved? I'm unsure as to how that works, but I'll likely need to move between my TB, which arrives tomorrow, and my Incredible for development purposes. So I'm sure I'll figure out the details soon.
I assume until Verizon makes an official statement it'll remain a rumor. Regardless, sooner than I've been hearing. I'd heard tiered by the summer. But suppose a test run for a week might be enough to see what kind of saturation to expect network wise. But think before the bionics release would be a reasonable guess. But well wish it wasn't headed that way. Think the approach of I think sprint just charging an additional $10/mo if you want 4G isn't a bad business model. Plus the users who get these phones and barely use any data would likely offset from those who do...
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after testing lte i would pay $10 a month more for it.
My Verizon Rep is allowing me to upgrade early, but pay Verizon price for the phone. But my upgrade is the 29th of March. So if I can, I would wait and grab from Amazon. So until some sort of verification somewhere I'll wait. They won't do a surprise change would they?
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My Verizon Rep is allowing me to upgrade early, but pay Verizon price for the phone. But my upgrade is the 29th of March. So if I can, I would wait and grab from Amazon. So until some sort of verification somewhere I'll wait. They won't do a surprise change would they?
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Don't think for a minute that they won't do a surprise change! The legalese you click / sign through when you're becoming a customer says they can change any part of any of your terms at any time with or without notice, basically they can decide that it's $1,000 per byte and that's just tough luck for you. Of course they would probably get sued for being unreasonable, but you see my point. The act of changing the deal on a dime is not illegal because you agreed to let them.
And if you aren't even a Verizon Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan customer at all right now, they have even less obligation to you, because you aren't a customer, and you have no chance of being grandfathered.
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Don't think for a minute that they won't do a surprise change! The legalese you click / sign through when you're becoming a customer says they can change any part of any of your terms at any time with or without notice, basically they can decide that it's $1,000 per byte and that's just tough luck for you. Of course they would probably get sued for being unreasonable, but you see my point. The act of changing the deal on a dime is not illegal because you agreed to let them.
And if you aren't even a Verizon Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan customer at all right now, they have even less obligation to you, because you aren't a customer, and you have no chance of being grandfathered.
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this was my understanding. Even if they have a contract with you, they can still change it, but it then gives you an option, you bend over and take the changes, or you can leave with no ETF.
Also if they are not going to grandfather people in, then I will be returning my phone within the 30 days and going with another carrier. I like their coverage and LTE is crazy, but a 5GB cap on internet speeds this fast? you'll be hitting cap in a week.
I am hoping that the whole deal between AT&T and T-Mobile becoming one company makes them change their mind, or at least rethink the data plans.
Quite a conundrum.
The Bionic looks like itll be nice, but it seemed like an act of God to flash anything on the X compared to what it takes to flash things on the Charge and I assume the bootloader will be locked on the Bionic as well.
I don't want to lose my unlimited data package, which could happen before bionic is released and I donated to the Charge cause which would make that a loss.
The hardware in the Bionic is quite appealing though, although I have not seen anything about the type battery it might use.
So, what are your opinions, I have a week to return the Charge, would you?
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Quite a conundrum.
The Bionic looks like itll be nice, but it seemed like an act of God to flash anything on the X compared to what it takes to flash things on the Charge and I assume the bootloader will be locked on the Bionic as well.
I don't want to lose my unlimited data package, which could happen before bionic is released and I donated to the Charge cause which would make that a loss.
The hardware in the Bionic is quite appealing though, although I have not seen anything about the type battery it might use.
So, what are your opinions, I have a week to return the Charge, would you?
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I have a week to return my Charge as well. I don't think I will. The Bionic looks very appealing to me in respects to the hardware, but the locked motorola bootloader sucks! I think I will wait for the next dual-core, 1gb ram phone after the Bionic.
Also, I last heard the Bionic will sport a 1930mAh battery. Here are some links that say 1930 mAh:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Motorola-DROID-BIONIC_id5122
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_droid_bionic-3710.php
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I don't want to lose my unlimited data package
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that is going to change in the next month or so regardless of what u decide :/
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that is going to change in the next month or so regardless of what u decide :/
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Have they come out and said they would force people to switch?
AT&T is allowing people to be grandfathered in, can VZW make changes to someone's contract like that without their consent, according to my local VZW store if you upgrade now, you'll be grandfathered in.
If you have unlimited data they can't take it away cuz you are grandfathered in and that would breach your contract. Later on if you renew your contract while upgrading to a new phone that might change.
But for now if you get it before the switch you get to enjoy all the 4g data you can handle. That's the main reason I got my charge lol
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If you have unlimited data they can't take it away cuz you are grandfathered in and that would breach your contract. Later on if you renew your contract while upgrading to a new phone that might change.
But for now if you get it before the switch you get to enjoy all the 4g data you can handle. That's the main reason I got my charge lol
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that was my understanding too, which I do love the Charge and I like it much better than the X, which is why holding out for the Bionic is dangerous.
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If you have unlimited data they can't take it away cuz you are grandfathered in and that would breach your contract. Later on if you renew your contract while upgrading to a new phone that might change.
But for now if you get it before the switch you get to enjoy all the 4g data you can handle. That's the main reason I got my charge lol
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If Verizon does try and force us to give up our unlimited data it would be like you said a breach of contract. If they were to breach a contract then it would be void. If these things were to happen I know for sure I would be on the phone immediately saying you breached my contract and I want out and put me month to month.
It's happened before when carriers change rates, people have gotten out of the contract because it voids the agreement you made.
Now, again, IF these things were to happen, I would be getting out of my contract like I said and waiting until the holiday season to buy one of these quad-core phones that are supposed to be arriving. So let's hope they do this!!!
Wasn't the Bionic canceled?
SuperFly03 said:
Wasn't the Bionic canceled?
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No, it has been delayed until sometime between end of Q3/beginning of Q4...
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If you have unlimited data they can't take it away cuz you are grandfathered in and that would breach your contract.
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you might wanna check ur contract about LTE data, cuz once they decide to pull unlimited it doesn't matter when u activated your plan it will be changed to a tiered plan there will be no unlimited data for anyone after that point
Since you seem to know more about this than anyone else on these forums (no one has come straight out saying they won't be grandfathering current 4g users in for sure) can you please highlight the part of this new LTE contract that allows Verizon to change our pricing plan freely without voiding our contract? This would be a huge change over the current contract if true.
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you might wanna check ur contract about LTE data, cuz once they decide to pull unlimited it doesn't matter when u activated your plan it will be changed to a tiered plan there will be no unlimited data for anyone after that point
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Sorry but this quite simply is untrue.
I just checked my contract and there is nothing giving them the right to change my unlimited data plan.
So once again if they were to decide to change our unlimited 4g data plan then our contracts would be nullified.
If vzw does this,back to tmobile for.me. 50 unlimited everything.
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wow, dudes, if you want a smart phone, you need to pay for it, and if they raise the prices, so be it, dont cry so much, or get a dumb phone
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wow, dudes, if you want a smart phone, you need to pay for it, and if they raise the prices, so be it, dont cry so much, or get a dumb phone
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/agree, gigahertz class smartphones with 4G data are a LUXURY not a gift from your creator, if you can't afford it you don't need it.
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Since you seem to know more about this than anyone else on these forums (no one has come straight out saying they won't be grandfathering current 4g users in for sure) can you please highlight the part of this new LTE contract that allows Verizon to change our pricing plan freely without voiding our contract? This would be a huge change over the current contract if true.
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"Any part of this contract may be changed by Verizon at any time with or without notification."
It's been there since before smart phones people, though to avoid law suits they usually grandfather people for as long as their service remains unchanged, but if you change your billing information, any part of your plan, or the actual device you're using then you can and often will become subject to the latest greatest terms.
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"Any part of this contract may be changed by Verizon at any time with or without notification."
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Is that an actual quote from the LTE contract agreement? I couldn't find those exact words using a quick Google search so I assume it's only found in a physical document that you received?
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"Any part of this contract may be changed by Verizon at any time with or without notification."
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this line is not in any of the forms that I signed with the purchase of my Charge.
They can change it but they wont and if they do you will have 60 days to leave with no etf, trolls can gtfo
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Don't let your family members upgrade their devices Even though we were grandfathered in by pre-ordering, it only takes one bad apple to ruin it for everyone!
I asked a CSR and was told that upgrading one device on the family plan kicks ALL phones with unlimited into the new ****ty plans. :/
False information- see http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/faqs/Calling Plans/share_everything.html
Thanks for the heads up. I had been wondering about that too. The Csr I spoke with once said that's not the case but she sounded really unsure I could hardly trust her
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This is untrue. You only lose your unlimited data if the plan is changed to Share Everything. You can still upgrade phones, you just have make sure you keep your current plan.
I was told 2 days ago when i upgraded to the s3 that if you use your 2 year upgrade on your line you'll lose unlimited. But if you use another lines upgrade then switch the phone to your line youll keep unlimited.
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Family plans operate as one plan with just individual lines. If you upgrade one of the lines it affects the whole plan. This is pretty obvious by when you go to the Verizon website and look under Plans you only see two options now: Share Everything and Prepaid. You can try working with a CSR to see if they will get you a deal but chances are if you buy a phone at a 2-year price they will require you to change your plan. In the past when I've gotten a new phone if the plan I was on was no longer available they would inform me that I would need to change to a more current plan.
One option to try is to ask if there are any customer loyalty plans. Verizon has plans they don't advertise for customers looking to keep a low bill but remain with Verizon. Example: $25/month for 100 minutes with no nights & weekends or in-network calling versus the $40 for the base minute plan. There is a family share plan that is only 450 minutes shared, instead of the 700 on the base plan, and priced at 49.99 instead of 59.99. HOWEVER these were prior to share everything so I have no idea if they even still exist post Share Everything. If you've been a customer for a few years it's worth asking.
I did speak with a CSR who told me that if you have any discounts on your current plan they will now come off the top of the total bill. So instead of it being 15% off the base line it will now be 15% off $100 (40+60).
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This is untrue. You only lose your unlimited data if the plan is changed to Share Everything. You can still upgrade phones, you just have make sure you keep your current plan.
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False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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Then tell me how my brother used his upgrade on our family share plan and i kept my unlimited data? This was done on the first week of july.
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False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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False. I've done this personally and maintained unlimited data and my old share plan. If you don't believe me, I'll happily show you screenshots from my account page.
droidstyle said:
Then tell me how my brother used his upgrade on our family share plan and i kept my unlimited data? This was done on the first week of july.
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When was the phone purchased? It's also possible the in-store rep had no idea of the plan changes.
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This is untrue. You only lose your unlimited data if the plan is changed to Share Everything. You can still upgrade phones, you just have make sure you keep your current plan.
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Exactly what i was told and did!
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False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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Anyone that tells you that is full of it. Upgrading a line does NOT impact the others on the plan. Even if a line has a dumbphone, they can upgrade to a smartphone and still choose from the 2, 5 or 10GB line based tiered data plans without messing with the others.
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When was the phone purchased? It's also possible the in-store rep had no idea of the plan changes.
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The first week of july lol
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False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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False, my sister upgraded to an iphone from a dumb phone after I had preordered my gs3. I made sure she knew to deny the share everything plan, and instead upgrade to a standalone 2gb/$30 data plan.
See 6,7, and 15 :good:
http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/faqs/Calling Plans/share_everything.html
*EDIT* The CSRs WILL definitely push you to the share everything plan. Someone who isn't in the know will probably not even understand that they do NOT have to switch to Share Everything.
i still have my unlimited data
Kreeker said:
False, my sister upgraded to an iphone from a dumb phone after I had preordered my gs3. I made sure she knew to deny the share everything plan, and instead upgrade to a standalone 2gb/$30 data plan.
See 6,7, and 15 :good:
http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/faqs/Calling Plans/share_everything.html
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Exactly...i was also told that in december when my line is elidgeable for a upgrade i can use it on my wifes line and buy a seperate data plan. The forums are almost as bad as the media....**** gets blown way out of proportion.
Just going to go ahead and post these and the end all be all. The first picture shows the main line(mine), notice the old share plan and unlimited data. Second picture shows the line I used to upgrade, notice the end date. Now, the rep at the store most definitely tried to push me onto a Share Everything(telling me the benefits, etc.), but with a couple stern "No, thank you"s, he dropped it.
Good to know. Based on the info they released they made it seem like you had to change if you were upgrading a phone but I guess that must be limited to non-family plans. I wonder if I can get them to give me an upgrade now instead of december
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When was the phone purchased? It's also possible the in-store rep had no idea of the plan changes.
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This is exactly opposite of the way things work.
If there was a plan change requirement, the rep would be forced to implement it via the computer system, as it would explicitly disallow (if it even showed it) the use of an ineligible plan.
The idea that a rep missed the meeting saying "Everyone who upgrades anything goes on shared data and takes the entire plan with them!" and simply didn't enter it into the system at the time of purchase is simply laughable.
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Good to know. Based on the info they released they made it seem like you had to change if you were upgrading a phone but I guess that must be limited to non-family plans. I wonder if I can get them to give me an upgrade now instead of december
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well ya...vzw reps are no different than a car salesman...Do you honestly think a rep is going to say "hey stick with our old plan, the new one sucks" lmao!
I take it back. That's what you get for listening to CSR's. I'm glad to see verizon takes pride with training the people who represent them.
I just placed an order with Verizon online and was able to keep my unlimited data plan while upgrading to the note 3. I verified with 611 that as long as the system allows it. I will be able to keep it. The Order confirmation shows it and also I saved the chat with another rep saying they are running a promo that is allowing people to keep their unlimited data.
can you please elaborate on that ?
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I just placed an order with Verizon online and was able to keep my unlimited data plan while upgrading to the note 3. I verified with 611 that as long as the system allows it. I will be able to keep it. The Order confirmation shows it and also I saved the chat with another rep saying they are running a promo that is allowing people to keep their unlimited data.
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I would do this right now !
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I would do this right now !
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Check out Droid-Life, they actually just posted a story on it.
It seems legit.
Too bad I'd never put another Verizon ball and chain on my ankle ever again.
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I would do this right now !
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I just went online and went through the upgrade process. I know it use to strip it and force you to a new plan but right now its allowing you to keep it. I actually find it interesting that they would allow this considering VZW just made comments about unlimited data being dead.
I just canceled my preorder for the phone alone at full price. I went online and upgraded for the note 3 and gear bundle for less than the phone retail and was able to keep my unlimited.:laugh::laugh::laugh: I kept printouts of it all.
OMG Thank you!
Just cancelled my pre-order and upgraded my line
does this mean your 2yr contract has to be up first or
I can just buy the phone outright @ contract price right if I have an existing contract and keep unlimited data ?
FYI,
I did this successfully last night, and when I talked to a CSR this morning trying to cancel my first pre-order, they told me that I would lose my unlimited data anyway, because it was just a glitch in the system that they were trying to figure out.
They did confirm to me that I could return it and revert back to unlimited data and just buy the N3 outright, as I had planned to do all along, so it's not a big deal.
I'm just saying don't cry if it doesn't work in the end.
Remember, this is Verizon we're talking about. They have no qualms about screwing us over, "contract" or no "contract".
I'm thinking about canceling my preorder to reorder on my account. At the moment i have the Note preordered on my mother-in-laws business account (to be activated on one of her lines, but then I’ll take it). That was the safest way I couldnt think to keep my unlimited. Not sure if i want to risk it
Confident Verizon will keep their end just like they haven't throttled unlimited data like AT&T has. This makes it easier than paying full price which I did for my current Note 2.
It's already been stated a few times that it might change once you activate your device. So be careful... it may lock you in to two years without your unlimited data...
This is coming from Verizon btw.
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Confident Verizon will keep their end just like they haven't throttled unlimited data like AT&T has.
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They haven't throttled because it is illegal for them to do so. The LTE spectrum they bought came with that caveat, and if they throttle LTE, they are in violation of federal law. They throttle 3G all the time because they can.
Rest assured, Verizon will not honor this. They don't care about me or you, and they could care less if we ditch them and run to T-Mobile or wherever else. All they care about is expanding their network and releasing their crappy droids.
I'm canceling my glitch order and going with the original pre-order that I thankfully never canceled.
I know Verizon too well to think this will work out.
Verizon sucks, they have atrocious business practices, and that's not going to change. Don't be fooled.
I would like to think Verizon would honor this. But since they are all about squeezing the last penny out of customers this will be my last straw with VZW.
Even United who gave away free tickets from a glitch honored it.
VZW isn't losing any money on doing this.
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I would like to think Verizon would honor this. But since they are all about squeezing the last penny out of customers this will be my last straw with VZW.
Even United who gave away free tickets from a glitch honored it.
VZW isn't losing any money on doing this.
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I too am almost done with Verizon. Have ordered a Note 3 from TMo to see what my coverage may be in and around Houston as compared to Verizon. I don't expect it to be as good but I'm not looking for that anyway. I'll compare it with the unlimited upgrade I did for the Note 3 this weekend from Verizon or my G4 if the Note falls through. If all goes well, I'll sell my three lines of unlimited, return or sells phones as appropriate and move over to TMo. Verizon just has too much arrogance IMHO.
I upgraded to a gn3 and was able to keep my unlimited data on AT&T. I read somewhere Verizon had a glitch in their oline system that allowed some people to upgrade and retain their unlimited data but they have since corrected it and that the people that were able to retain their unlimited will probably loose it anyways.
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I too am almost done with Verizon. Have ordered a Note 3 from TMo to see what my coverage may be in and around Houston as compared to Verizon. I don't expect it to be as good but I'm not looking for that anyway. I'll compare it with the unlimited upgrade I did for the Note 3 this weekend from Verizon or my G4 if the Note falls through. If all goes well, I'll sell my three lines of unlimited, return or sells phones as appropriate and move over to TMo. Verizon just has too much arrogance IMHO.
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If you decide to sell your unlimited data line on Verizon, please shoot me a PM and I will take it off your hands.
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VZWSupport on twitter just said they will automatically put you in a current plan and won't honor the "glitch". Which apparently is happening again.
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VZWSupport on twitter just said they will automatically put you in a current plan and won't honor the "glitch". Which apparently is happening again.
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I don't see this on VZWSupport, direct link?
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I don't see this on VZWSupport, direct link?
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https://twitter.com/VZWSupport/status/384681847533232129
ikithme said:
I don't see this on VZWSupport, direct link?
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At work so I can't get to post images, but search for "Light Aeterna" on Twitter, that's who VZW replied to with the news.
Broke my S3, and would like to upgrade to the Moto X. Unfortunately, I have the unlimited data upgrade. Our family plan has 5 lines. 1 unlimited smart, 1 tiered smart, and 3 dumb phones. I've searched and heard NUMEROUS stories on how to keep unlimited data, and read comments from people about how none of those work. I figured the XDA folks may be a bit more knowledgeable than some other forums, so I'm trying my hand here. I've heard a few different ways to do it:
1. Transfer my upgrade through myverizon to a dumb line and then upgrade. (Verizon alone has given me about 4 different answers on if this would void my UDP)
2. Find a retailer that would work things around and keep my UDP. (Found a guy, verizonchris, on a different site that said he could do this for me most likely, but he needs my billing password. Naturally, Im reluctant to give it out)
3. Transfer upgrade on myverizon, go to a store and get a upgrade voucher for motomaker, then upgrade through motomaker and it will keep my UDP.
I've heard of some others, as I'm sure you guys have, and am really just looking for some sort of verification for this from some smart peeps!
(Sidenote, I'm also going to claim the S3 on Asurion. Does anyone know what Asurion is giving people for broken vzw S3's? Heard a few different things, maybe an upgrade through that would be possible?)
Thanks!
blueice5249 said:
Broke my S3, and would like to upgrade to the Moto X. Unfortunately, I have the unlimited data upgrade. Our family plan has 5 lines. 1 unlimited smart, 1 tiered smart, and 3 dumb phones. I've searched and heard NUMEROUS stories on how to keep unlimited data, and read comments from people about how none of those work. I figured the XDA folks may be a bit more knowledgeable than some other forums, so I'm trying my hand here. I've heard a few different ways to do it:
1. Transfer my upgrade through myverizon to a dumb line and then upgrade. (Verizon alone has given me about 4 different answers on if this would void my UDP)
2. Find a retailer that would work things around and keep my UDP. (Found a guy, verizonchris, on a different site that said he could do this for me most likely, but he needs my billing password. Naturally, Im reluctant to give it out)
3. Transfer upgrade on myverizon, go to a store and get a upgrade voucher for motomaker, then upgrade through motomaker and it will keep my UDP.
Thanks!
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4. Buy the Moto X outright and pop your SIM in.
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4. Buy the Moto X outright and pop your SIM in.
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Thanks, trying to avoid that.
Sounds like you may be overthinking this, or something has changed that I'm not aware of.
You can't do anything with the upgrade available on your unlimited line. If you do, this will most likely reset your line to tiered data.
The upgrade would need to be on the dumb phone line.
You would upgrade that dumb phone's line to the phone you want.
When the phone comes, call up Verizon and activate the new phone on your line.
Double check with Verizon that the data plan will not activate on the dumb phone's line.
Enjoy your new phone with unlimited data! Too bad the person who uses that dumb phone won't have an upgrade for another couple years.
If other lines on the account have upgrades available all you will need to do is update using one of the other updates. The line yoy used for the upgrade will now have a 2gb plan but you don't activate with that line. Just put your SIM in and you will still have your UNLIMITED DATA. Hope this helped.
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MetalMan2 said:
You can't do anything with the upgrade available on your unlimited line. If you do, this will most likely reset your line to tiered data.
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The 'new every two' was discontinued 2 years ago. The reason you get a new subsidized phone price is because you're re-entering into a contract with verizon... so it's like it's a new contract/line. You don't have credits and there's nothing to transfer, but if your contract is up, you can get the 'new' price. Unless you have unlimited data... you do that and they'll move you to a 'share everything' plan.
I've been told Costco will generally eat the cost of the phone, just to sell you one at the 'new' price and get the credit for your business. You keep the unlimited data and Verizon thinks you paid full retail. I can't confirm that plan will work for you, but many here have said that's worked for them.
Personally, I'm in the EDGE program. Pay $16-30/month more for a new device, keep my unlimited data and every 12 months, get to pick a new device. Yes, you're paying $200-360 for the phone, but A- that's not much more than the 'new' price', B- you get to keep unlimited data, C- you get a new phone every 1 year, rather than 2 years with re-entering a contract and D- you were probably going to pay that much for a phone off eBay anyway if you have unlimited data. Dunno if that makes sense for someone with so many lines, but if you keep it to 1-2 lines and really need that data (like I do), then it makes perfect fiscal sense.
beepea206 said:
The 'new every two' was discontinued 2 years ago. The reason you get a new subsidized phone price is because you're re-entering into a contract with verizon... so it's like it's a new contract/line. You don't have credits and there's nothing to transfer, but if your contract is up, you can get the 'new' price. Unless you have unlimited data... you do that and they'll move you to a 'share everything' plan.
I've been told Costco will generally eat the cost of the phone, just to sell you one at the 'new' price and get the credit for your business. You keep the unlimited data and Verizon thinks you paid full retail. I can't confirm that plan will work for you, but many here have said that's worked for them.
Personally, I'm in the EDGE program. Pay $16-30/month more for a new device, keep my unlimited data and every 12 months, get to pick a new device. Yes, you're paying $200-360 for the phone, but A- that's not much more than the 'new' price', B- you get to keep unlimited data, C- you get a new phone every 1 year, rather than 2 years with re-entering a contract and D- you were probably going to pay that much for a phone off eBay anyway if you have unlimited data. Dunno if that makes sense for someone with so many lines, but if you keep it to 1-2 lines and really need that data (like I do), then it makes perfect fiscal sense.
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Thanks, I may look into that if I run out of options.
Has anyone ever heard of this working? Seems like a HUGE loophole if it really works.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...nlimited-data-get-phone-subsidized-price.html
blueice5249 said:
Has anyone ever heard of this working? Seems like a HUGE loophole if it really works.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...nlimited-data-get-phone-subsidized-price.html
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That's a huge flaw in Best Buy's system if it works. Because the purchase of the new phone requires a re-entry into contract and VZ specifically has blocks on subsidized phone prices on grandfathered data plans. Not even GMs in Verizon stores can override it... I've tried.
So basically, you're placing a 3rd party order and because Best Buy can't send you a live sim card (only VZ can), you swap it for your current one and VZ is never the wiser. Clever, but tread lightly and quickly.. I can't imagine this flaw will remain open for long.
blueice5249 said:
Broke my S3, and would like to upgrade to the Moto X. Unfortunately, I have the unlimited data upgrade. Our family plan has 5 lines. 1 unlimited smart, 1 tiered smart, and 3 dumb phones. I've searched and heard NUMEROUS stories on how to keep unlimited data, and read comments from people about how none of those work. I figured the XDA folks may be a bit more knowledgeable than some other forums, so I'm trying my hand here. I've heard a few different ways to do it:
1. Transfer my upgrade through myverizon to a dumb line and then upgrade. (Verizon alone has given me about 4 different answers on if this would void my UDP)
Thanks!
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I have done this many times. If the upgrade is on your unlimited data plane line, log into VZ website and transfer it to the tiered smart line. When you phone arrived, call VZ and activate on your unlimited data line.
buhohitr said:
I have done this many times. If the upgrade is on your unlimited data plane line, log into VZ website and transfer it to the tiered smart line. When you phone arrived, call VZ and activate on your unlimited data line.
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Ive done this twice as well. I went to the store and did this. They understood what I was doing too. They didn't care. They thought it was smart. Just transfer the upgrade to a dumbline and then upgrade. Then have them activate it under ur unlimited line.
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buhohitr said:
I have done this many times. If the upgrade is on your unlimited data plane line, log into VZ website and transfer it to the tiered smart line. When you phone arrived, call VZ and activate on your unlimited data line.
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Just a quick update for everyone:
I couldn't update because of my talk plan. Since I claimed my broken screen through Asurion, I talked them into making a "one-time" exception and sending me a brand new S4 instead of another S3.
I'm selling the S4 and buying a Moto X. They told me they're in and out of them. I convinced them to send me a new S4 (as a "one time" exception because of my great history).
Im going to sell the S4 and buy a Moto X.
I already convinced Motorola to send me a free case and $50 off coupon. Awesome deal! :victory::victory:
Suck it Verizon!
UNLIMITED FOREVER!! :laugh::highfive:
blueice5249 said:
Just a quick update for everyone:
I couldn't update because of my talk plan. Since I claimed my broken screen through Asurion, I talked them into making a "one-time" exception and sending me a brand new S4 instead of another S3.
I'm selling the S4 and buying a Moto X. They told me they're in and out of them. I convinced them to send me a new S4 (as a "one time" exception because of my great history).
Im going to sell the S4 and buy a Moto X.
I already convinced Motorola to send me a free case and $50 off coupon. Awesome deal! :victory::victory:
Suck it Verizon!
UNLIMITED FOREVER!! :laugh::highfive:
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Nice move! I'm jealous!
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Nice move! I'm jealous!
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Now you'll be really jealous. Since they have that $100 off sale Monday, I conned free Royal Blue earbuds and the anti-glare film out of them! I'm still gonna call back Monday to see what they're doing for the people who just ordered them too lol