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What would be your ideal phone? Just list the specs of the phone you think would blow ALL the other phones out of the water and would keep you satisfied for the full 2 years. I'll start :]
1) 4.5" Super Amoled HD display(going edge to edge, removing the Sammy/Verizon logos to make room for more screen)
2) 4g LTE with great modems/radios so we aren't dropping constantly
3) 1800mah battery(minimum! I'd want to be able to get 8 hours of heavy usage without calibrating the battery!)
4) A notification LED... seriously it's not hard!
5) Quad core Tegra 3
6) Full 1080p video recording at 30fps+
7) A nice quality camera, not just megapixels but a camera that doesn't wash the pictures out and just looks nice and lifelike.
8) Front facing camera
9) A good speaker(both the earpiece and the actual speaker). Our Charge has a GREAT speaker, very loud with a nice hump so you can hear the sound even when it's laying on its back.
10) ICS out of the box with great support for bug fixes and future OS releases!
11) Lock button on the side; like the Charge. I can't STAND how so many phones feel the need to put the lock button on the top, it's just so out of the way and annoying to press. Makes locking the phone feel like a chore... lol.
12) 2 models of the same phone, one with a physical keyboard and one without. I personally would always choose the keyboard version(if it has a Droid 3 style keyboard) but some people like the keyboard-less phones for less bulk.
13) ALL CARRIERS! I HAVE A FAMILY PLAN AND WILL NEVER SWITCH TO ANOTHER CARRIER JUST FOR 1 PHONE! AHHHHG! Lol.
14) Have the option to choose either TouchWiz(or the other makers equivalent) or stock(you know, the Gummycharged/Nexus look). Give people who don't mod/root options too!
15) Probably the most important; unlocked bootloader.
I know some of the tech isn't out yet but it will be by the end of this year/early next year. If they make a phone meeting these requirements in all honesty it would probably last me 4 years. A lot of people complained that $300 was too much for a phone but I would gladly pay $500 for this phone.. on contract. Although it will never happen it's kinda fun listing the specs for your ideal phone, give it a try
Alright, i'll throw out some ridiculous stuff...
1. 5" SAMOLED+HD (nothin' but screen...)
2. 4G...without the battery drain or dropouts.
3. 2000 mAh battery
4. Notification LED. Never had one on any of my phones but everyone says its nice to have...
5. Quad Core Tegra 3 1.5+ ghz (smokin...)
6. 1080p HD video at 24fps (most video cameras do this as standard)
7. 10MP camera with real focus and a dual LED flash
8. 8MP FFC (gotta strain that 4G)
9. Ear-rape volume speaker. Seriously, I want to be able to hear this thing over a jackhammer.
10. Ability to come out of sleep by pressing home
11. Ice Cream Sammidge. With FREQUENT updates, not this Samsung once-in-a-blue-moon-if-ever crap
11a. Excellent source.
12. An actual accurate predictive keyboard. Even the GB one is total horse ****, I just use SwiftKey.
13. Verizon only, *****es!
14. AOSP out of the box.
15. Unlocked bootloader.
16. Unlocked bootloader.
17. Unlocked bootloader.
18. Capacitive menu buttons
19. ASSLOAD of dev support!
20. Lightweight and slim, but not cheap feeling. Gorilla glass doesn't need to be said as it's becoming the standard.
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by capacitive buttons you mean the kind that are on the Bionic? Those are gross! I hate the "touch" buttons, I think the only thing that should be touch responsive is the "touch" screen! I think everything else should be physical.
You guys forgot one thing:
-Sandwich maker
It was implied... lol
Updates shouldn't b a problem for long... Samsung hired steve kondit(maybe spelled wrong) a.k.a cyanogen... Old news but still pumped..
1. Fascinate design with steel scratch proof backing,
4.3 in samoled HD something like 1900x1080p resolution DD
NO TOUCHWIZ... Maybe a nexus 4 vzw would b sweet
Quad core 1.5ghz hummingbird or tegra
A nokia 13mp rear camera
Ide b happy with a 3.2mp ffc
5 gen wireless internet something like 100mb/s lmao
Wireless battery charging(phone that never needs plugged in)
8gb of ram 64gb internal memory with a way to from anywhere view and transfer files from home cpu
And might as well add a 3d interactive projection display above screen..
And then I woke up
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And then I woke up
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lol'd irl.
Imagine a galaxy phone preloaded with cm7 outta the box
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Y'all are forgetting the Teleportation mode. No, seriously, as long as it texts, makes/receives calls, and can browse the web, I don't really mind the rest.
My HTC Wildfire S runs MagicOS (Unicorn Hair, Rainbow Extract and Pixie Dust).
I don't know about my ideal phone, but my next phone will have:
HD samoled plus min 4.3"
Quad core
Same size or smaller than Charge.
Better battery than Charge
1 g ram
Faster camera
Honestly I'm pretty happy with the charge. Faster cpu would be nice for complex web pages. Screen is sweet, but a bit more res would be cool. Better camera is always good since it is the camera I use the most.
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elucid said:
I don't know about my ideal phone, but my next phone will have:
HD samoled plus min 4.3"
Quad core
Same size or smaller than Charge.
Better battery than Charge
1 g ram
Faster camera
Honestly I'm pretty happy with the charge. Faster cpu would be nice for complex web pages. Screen is sweet, but a bit more res would be cool. Better camera is always good since it is the camera I use the most.
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Honestly the best part about the Charge is the unlocked bootloader, sweet lord I can never flash enough files! It just keeps the phone so fresh in terms of looks AND features!
4.5" Super HD screen, 240 fps, tougher than gorilla glass.
32gb on board with option of sd card
2000 mah battery with a motion charging system (charges when it moves) easy swap battery (for the super long trips)
a form factor that would allow a multitude of aftermarket accessories
All with a solid network that is 99.9999999% reliable with speeds of 100down/50up
12 megapixel camera with manual adjustable shutter
support for all formats of music and video
fm radio, gps, all the usual stuff
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4.5" Super HD screen, 240 fps, tougher than gorilla glass.
32gb on board with option of sd card
2000 mah battery with a motion charging system (charges when it moves) easy swap battery (for the super long trips)
a form factor that would allow a multitude of aftermarket accessories
All with a solid network that is 99.9999999% reliable with speeds of 100down/50up
12 megapixel camera with manual adjustable shutter
support for all formats of music and video
fm radio, gps, all the usual stuff
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Tougher than Gorilla Glass ? Bring on the King-Kong Glass !
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The things you guys are posting are way too far fetched. If that's the case I want a 5 inch 3200x1800 screen.
Here are some feasible things on my ideal phone.
1. 4.5 inch SAMOLED+ display with no real buttons on the phone. They'd be on screen like honeycomb tablets and no samsung/verizon branding on the front of the phone.
2. Dual core 1.4ghz processor
3. 1gb ram
4. Quality 8mp shooter with 2mp front facer
5. Notification LED
6. Global 4g LTE support
7. Super loud speakers
etc
Sleek69 said:
The things you guys are posting are way too far fetched. If that's the case I want a 5 inch 3200x1800 screen.
Here are some feasible things on my ideal phone.
1. 4.5 inch SAMOLED+ display with no real buttons on the phone. They'd be on screen like honeycomb tablets and no samsung/verizon branding on the front of the phone.
2. Dual core 1.4ghz processor
3. 1gb ram
4. Quality 8mp shooter with 2mp front facer
5. Notification LED
6. Global 4g LTE support
7. Super loud speakers
etc
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Were allowed to dream right... Godzilla glass
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1) quad core(tegra 3) cpu
2) atleast ps3 like GPU (shader 4.0+opengl 2.0)
3) gorilla glass + anti smudge +non reflective
4) AH-IPS HD display
5) bluetooth 3.0
6) Wi-Fi direct
7) MHL mobile hd video link
8) LPDDR3
9) USB host on-board for gaming controllers
10) Support for 802.22n wi-fi + tethering
11) Tiny pico projector
12) Only screen front panel with front cam and speaker
13) Water resistant
14) Sim and sharp edge candybar body
15) Gesture recognition (omap 5)
16) onboard class 10 rom atleast 16GB
wilsondonakanty07 said:
1) quad core(tegra 3) cpu
2) atleast ps3 like GPU (shader 4.0+opengl 2.0)
3) gorilla glass + anti smudge +non reflective
4) AH-IPS HD display
5) bluetooth 3.0
6) Wi-Fi direct
7) MHL mobile hd video link
8) LPDDR3
9) USB host on-board for gaming controllers
10) Support for 802.22n wi-fi + tethering
11) Tiny pico projector
12) Only screen front panel with front cam and speaker
13) Water resistant
14) Sim and sharp edge candybar body
15) Gesture recognition (omap 5)
16) onboard class 10 rom atleast 16GB
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I literally don't know what half of those things are.... D:
I want
4.3" 720p SAMOLED SCREEN
Dual Core CPU, preferably Exynos or Tegra 2
Body of GS2 with materials of the Droid X
Unlocked Bootloader
Comes with completely stock ICS
10MP Instant Shutter Camera
4G LTE With a better radio (better reception, better battery)
Battery life of a moto phone. with a 1900 mAH battery
Unlocked Bootloader
No Bloatware
Timely updates and bugfixes, not like the 2 small updates, maybe a big one then forget the device
3mp ffc camera that can be used full quality
Unlocked Bootloader
I just pretty much describes the Nexus Prime.
Bring on the Nexus
wilsondonakanty07 said:
1) quad core(tegra 3) cpu
2) atleast ps3 like GPU (shader 4.0+opengl 2.0)
3) gorilla glass + anti smudge +non reflective
4) AH-IPS HD display
5) bluetooth 3.0
6) Wi-Fi direct
7) MHL mobile hd video link
8) LPDDR3
9) USB host on-board for gaming controllers
10) Support for 802.22n wi-fi + tethering
11) Tiny pico projector
12) Only screen front panel with front cam and speaker
13) Water resistant
14) Sim and sharp edge candybar body
15) Gesture recognition (omap 5)
16) onboard class 10 rom atleast 16GB
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I got a hard-on reading this.
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rami98 said:
I want
4.3" 720p SAMOLED SCREEN
Dual Core CPU, preferably Exynos or Tegra 2
Body of GS2 with materials of the Droid X
Unlocked Bootloader
Comes with completely stock ICS
10MP Instant Shutter Camera
4G LTE With a better radio (better reception, better battery)
Battery life of a moto phone. with a 1900 mAH battery
Unlocked Bootloader
No Bloatware
Timely updates and bugfixes, not like the 2 small updates, maybe a big one then forget the device
3mp ffc camera that can be used full quality
Unlocked Bootloader
I just pretty much describes the Nexus Prime.
Bring on the Nexus
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Seriously that unlocked bootloader is the most important thing a phone can have, no amount of specs will make me buy a phone if I can't hack the **** out of it.
Hello everyone, this thread will serve as a discussion for the upcoming Galaxy S III which is expected to be previewed at MWC in February.
Here's some of the specs that most of us can expect:
Exynos Quad-Core CPU
Super Amoled HD Screen (1280 x 720) - however, we don't know if this will use Pentile or RGB
ICS (of course)
4.65 screen size
3D capable?
2GB of RAM
A new version of TouchWiz - TouchWiz 5?
One of the big things that I hope Samsung really changes is - its build quality. I really hope they consider changing from plastic (and yes I know the plastic is VERY durable) to a more premium feel such as aluminum. There were some rumors that the SGS III would ditch plastic, but we'll have to see.
So, this thread is open to discussion on what you guys would like to see in the GSIII, and what you guys are expecting. Feel free to give me suggestions to add on to the list, and please no flaming/trolling.
I would like the see al the features from above, but no 3D, a friend of my has a 3D phone and it realy sucked
I vote for "No 3D" too. I guess (hope) they are bringing separate 3D model to the market.
I like the build of the SGS2. I wish they get rid of the hardware buttons and make the bezel as thin as possible.
- Holographic keyboard as shown in the iphone 5 rumor vid
- mind reading UI so to open apps and type with use of hands
- laser beam gun to blast anyone that dares to defy
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I totally agree about the 3D thing. I would not like to see 3D on the next Galaxy S III. Thanks for the replies guys
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- Holographic keyboard as shown in the iphone 5 rumor vid
- mind reading UI so to open apps and type with use of hands
- laser beam gun to blast anyone that dares to defy
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Paaaaaahhaahahaha @ lazer beam gum for anyone that dares to defy! That was quality. Wouldnt mind some good devs modding that though loool
looks like an iphone but powered by android baby!!!!
needs a micro sd slot
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needs a micro sd slot
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Yea, I'm sure it'll have one. They better not pull a Nexus on us!
Not worried about 3D, but the 4.65" HD screen is a must, as is a return to the Wolfson sound chip (or non-Yamaha at any rate).
I'd like some metal in the build too, but I doubt it'll happen, Samsung seem to be determined to go down the thinner-the-better road.
I want to see these improvements:
- Wolfson or better sound chip
- No more color banding
- No more yellowish on left screen
- No more dirt between the gorilla glasss and super amoled++
- Next generation of Super Amoled ++?
- Much much longer battery juice
- Dual hot swappable battery
- HD resolution at least 1280x800
- No bigger than ~4.0-4.5"
- No hardware button except power and volume
- Thinner and lighter
- Thinner screen bezel
- Scratch-proof back border(material like the plastic on the back of SGS2 is welcome)
Suggested features
Should finally be able to make coffee.
Dual boot Windows 8 ARM.
Auto-encryption for homemade porn in the camera app.
E-ink display.
A 17y/o Korean lugging an optic fiber cable for connectivity instead of wifi.
Compact Flash card slot.
Myspace integration.
Crank loaded processor.
Virtual Boy cartridge slot and Powerglove support.
DuperMan said:
Should finally be able to make coffee.
Dual boot Windows 8 ARM.
Auto-encryption for homemade porn in the camera app.
E-ink display.
A 17y/o Korean lugging an optic fiber cable for connectivity instead of wifi.
Compact Flash card slot.
Myspace integration.
Crank loaded processor.
Virtual Boy cartridge slot and Powerglove support.
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I'd love to see a wake up lag of 3 secs so anyone could feel the quad proc rumbling up, just like a Cummins diesel.
Every time I see the Sensation XE snapping when I press the power button it makes me want to choke a dev near me ( though they are innocent and never stated the wake up lag comes from the proc waking up).
rwc3b said:
- laser beam gun to blast anyone that dares to defy
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WARNING: This WILL drain your battery!
DuperMan said:
Should finally be able to make coffee.
Dual boot Windows 8 ARM.
Auto-encryption for homemade porn in the camera app.
E-ink display.
A 17y/o Korean lugging an optic fiber cable for connectivity instead of wifi.
Compact Flash card slot.
Myspace integration.
Crank loaded processor.
Virtual Boy cartridge slot and Powerglove support.
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LOL, this I'd love to see
- Better camera quality. No framerate dips. No white balance problems. Usable HD resolution (why do you want FullHD if picture is full of noise and not very sharp).
- No yellow tint.
- No smudged pixel areas with a different saturation value only overcomed with high levels of brightness, a lot like the yellow tint.
- Better battery.
- Dual Core Cortex A15 better than Quad Core Cortex A9.
- PowerVR GPU.
- No 3D screen.
- Super AMOLED HD Plus (that is, RGB matrix instead of PenTile), 1280x800.
- White color case from the beginning.
- Continue with the plastic-crystal fiber mixture instead of going metal.
- MicroSD slot LVMed with the internal storage. You always can do a copy to a bigger SD card or same card size to maintain the LVM integrity. That would mean some more managing options on kies for Windows users.
- 2 GB of RAM.
- 32 GB of internal storage.
- Ice Cream Sandwich.
- Quicker updates, not months later.
Better sound quality/ loudspeakers would be a welcome!
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dragon135 said:
I want to see these improvements:
- Wolfson or better sound chip
- No more color banding
- No more yellowish on left screen
- No more dirt between the gorilla glasss and super amoled++
- Next generation of Super Amoled ++?
- Much much longer battery juice
- Dual hot swappable battery
- HD resolution at least 1280x800
- No bigger than ~4.0-4.5"
- No hardware button except power and volume
- Thinner and lighter
- Thinner screen bezel
- Scratch-proof back border(material like the plastic on the back of SGS2 is welcome)
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I agree with some of your suggestions but how can you possibly want a SGS3 to be thinner and lighter this phone is already thinner and lighter enough.
As regards having an aluminium back in theory it sounds good however should you happen to drop your phone it will most likely smash to bits which is why i suggest keeping the plastic back, remember this video folks, the reason the SGSII didn't smash half as much as the iPhone is because of the plastic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
I'm hoping for Holographic capabilities so I won't have to spend money on real life strippers.
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All of these would be nice:
- Ability to remove a soggy biscuit from my cup of coffee
- MTP support for OS X (if that's even possible?)
- Two SD card slots
- Solid aluminium back/side (Apple would sue)
- Remove the stupid voice thing when you double tap home button
- Ability to choose whether you want stock Google or Sammy rom
I've never had any yellow screen problems, is it a particular batch or country that got it?
OriginsOfLewis said:
All of these would be nice:
- MTP support for OS X (if that's even possible?)
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Yes, it's possible. There's a library called libmtp that must be compiled for Mac OS X. On GNU/Linux is ready to install from the repositories of your distribution.
Samsung just should help developing that library giving patches with code for their devices.
Anyone else having any issues with the outer edges of the tablet when pressed giving a creaking sounds. Its not bad enough for a return for when i receive my book cover i wont really care anymore. I just want to see if Im the only one and maybe I should take it back for another
Why are you pressing the outer corners of your tablet?
Mine does not creak, however it does sigh seductively.
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Yes, mine creaks if I press under the speakers... Both sides. It's annoying but I'm still keeping it!
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No creaking from mine.
BigStuart said:
Yes, mine creaks if I press under the speakers... Both sides. It's annoying but I'm still keeping it!
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Dont press under the speakers.
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The second I had mine out of the box I checked for this plastic creaking issue all the reviewers were talking about. Aside from a single creak, that was more of a popping noise like the back plate being snapped into position, I've had no problems since.
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I just read a funny review. They basically said:
"Other than the s-pen, there is little new in the Galaxy Note 10.1 to recommend it over the competition..."
Lol, that's like saying, "Other than it's fine-tuned racing engine, there is little new in a Porsche 911 to recommend it over a Volkswagen Jetta."
The PEN is the friggin point! The REASON the SGN10.1 doesn't have an HD screen is BECAUSE of the pen. The processor simply is not powerful enough to use a pen on an HD screen.
These reviewers are so dumb.
So, just like the original Note, all the reviewers HATE it and all the users LOVE it.
mitchellvii said:
These reviewers are so dumb.
So, just like the original Note, all the reviewers HATE it and all the users LOVE it.
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LOL. +1
I mean think about it. These same reviewers think we should be perfectly happy sitting in a business meeting taking notes with our finger. They say using a stylus doesn't "look cool", but finger painting does?
No shortage of dumb out there.
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The PEN is the friggin point! The REASON the SGN10.1 doesn't have an HD screen is BECAUSE of the pen. The processor simply is not powerful enough to use a pen on an HD screen
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Are You sure ? Isn´t the WACOM digitizer seperate from the screen ? Or is it because the Digitizer Input then has to be translated into a Full HD line/drawing that might exceed the limits of the Exynos.
Sorry for beeing picky but I would really like to know if I understood how this marvellous piece of art works ........
troed said:
Are You sure ? Isn´t the WACOM digitizer seperate from the screen ? Or is it because the Digitizer Input then has to be translated into a Full HD line/drawing that might exceed the limits of the Exynos.
Sorry for beeing picky but I would really like to know if I understood how this marvellous piece of art works ........
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The device not being fullHD has nothing to do with the pen. It has to do with the fact that there is not a mobile GPU in existence currently that can drive a full HD screen without severe compromises to the rest of the system.
New iPad - copypasta of the GPU cores to get the fillrate up required making the battery about 50% larger. This translates to a heavier device and 50% longer recharge time (recharge rate was not improved to compensate for the increased power consumption and battery capacity).
Transformer Infinity - The GPU is just not powerful enough to push all of those pixels. End result is lots of complaints about poor UI performance.
FullHD won't be truly practical until the next generation of mobile GPUs which achieve improved performance without increased power consumption.
No creaks here. There is some flex to the backplate, but I consider this a good thing - Which of the three options below would YOU choose?
Back flexes to absorb impacts
Back is stiff but cracks on impact because it didn't flex
Back is stiff and transfers shocks to your screen, which breaks instead of the back flexing a little
I know I choose option 1
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The device not being fullHD has nothing to do with the pen. It has to do with the fact that there is not a mobile GPU in existence currently that can drive a full HD screen without severe compromises to the rest of the system
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By disagreeing with me you prove my point.
The mobile processor in the SGN10.1 at this price point simply does not have the power to drive pen input on an HD screen. Hence, no HD screen. If the Infinity lags with no pen, how badly would an HD SGN10.1 lag with a pen? Do you think Samsung would try selling the Note with a 1280 x 800 screen and NO pen for $500? No one would buy it. Clearly, the problem here is the pen and HD input and processing power. You want pen + HD it's gonna cost you twice as much.
The proof of this is that the upcoming Surface Pro with a full intel chip is the only device recommended for full use of their new pen device with an HD screen. But that will cost $900 - $1000 and weigh 2 lbs.
No, the current hardware configuration on the SGN10.1 is the ONLY configuration which makes sense at this price. To me it represents brilliant balance.
No creaks here, my first(faulty speaker) was creaking.
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Unfortunately all the specwhores care about is "MOAR PIXELS HURR DURR."
Mine creaks a little but not really during normal use. Sure you can squeeze it and flex it, but what normal function requires doing that? Just looking for a problem where there isn't one.
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If the Infinity lags with no pen, how badly would an HD SGN10.1 lag with a pen?
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Not any more at all. If anything, slightly less due to the presence of a more powerful GPU (The Mali 400 in the Exynos 4412 is a bit beefier than the GPU in the Tegra 3.)
You seem to be under the false impression that the pen does something to increase CPU/GPU requirements of a device. It does not - All of the processing related to pen input is done by dedicated Wacom hardware. By the time you get to the CPU/GPU, it's just another input device which requires negligible processing power to deal with. This is why, for example, the original Note does just fine with the same CPU as the Galaxy S2 - It received a 200 MHz bump due to the higher display resolution and the fact that it was simply possible to do at that point in time (just like I wouldn't be surprised if Note 2 were a 1.5 GHz 4412 instead of 1.4 like in the GS3 and N10.1)
Again, keeping the screen at 1280x800 has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the pen and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that ultrahigh resolution is currently a marketing gimmick that results in an inferior experience in either UI performance (Infinity) or battery performance (iPad weight and recharge time), regardless of whether a pen is present or not. This will continue to be the case until the next generation of mobile GPUs/CPUs that achieves higher performance without higher power consumption requirements.
Entropy / Mitchell
Tx for the detailed info. Now (l think) l look through...... I'm totally happy with the resolution,it is absolutely crisp and sharp.
This device is incredible and after one week l would not know how to work. BTW: no creaking here.......
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Again, keeping the screen at 1280x800 has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the pen and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that ultrahigh resolution is currently a marketing gimmick that results in an inferior experience in either UI performance (Infinity) or battery performance (iPad weight and recharge time), regardless of whether a pen is present or not. This will continue to be the case until the next generation of mobile GPUs/CPUs that achieves higher performance without higher power consumption requirements.
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Entropy,
I have the greatest of respect for your work and skill with development but I still disagree. The actual function of the pen interacting with the device may not put additional strain on the gpu but changing those high density pixels as the pen writes in real time surely does. You are talking about pen input and i am talking about pen output.
Are you saying changing the colors and textures of double the pixels in the same space in realtime puts no more strain on the processor? Pushing pixels costs resources. Yes the pen input is handled by the digitizer but the result of that input is handled by the CPU/GPU.
Following your premise the new pen with the Surface RT should work as well as it does with the Pro, but it won't. It won't offer palm rejection or nearly the precision. Why not if the pen puts no additional demands on resources?
My position will continue to be that Samsung does not offer a higher density screen with the s-pen because they simply could not using this processor and still offer high performance.
Anyway, doesn't matter. It is what it is. If pen input on an HD screen were possible for $500 someone would be doing it. The fact no one is is telling.
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mitchellvii said:
If the Infinity lags with no pen, how badly would an HD SGN10.1 lag with a pen?
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It would lag the same. Pen doesn't strain the CPU or GPU much unless you are talking about recognising hadwriting or drawing with a complicated brush. Pen used as a mouse takes probably the same CPU power as... a mouse. There is almost certainly a dedicated Wacom chip that does most of the work related to the pen (calculating the position mostly).
Ahh . Yeah does make a pllastic squeaking sound...but i dont feel like unrooting to take it back so i shall deal with it! I love it too much
mitchellvii said:
I have the greatest of respect for your work and skill with development but I still disagree. The actual function of the pen interacting with the device may not put additional strain on the gpu but changing those high density pixels as the pen writes in real time surely does. You are talking about pen input and i am talking about pen output.
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You're not disagreeing with him, he's also saying that the GPU is not powerful enough to drive a screen of that resolution in real time. That's regardless of whether the output is pen output or other 2D/3D graphics output. Sure, it might be more noticeable with a finer resolution pen input than with finger touch input, but it's not specific to the pen itself, it's just a fact of current generation mobile GPUs and high resolution displays.
On topic, mine doesn't creak unless you hold it in awkward ways/push against it while picking it up off the table.
strong radios with less reception issues
cpu/gpu - whatever is the latest at that point. Probably Exynos, S4 Pro or newer
memory - 2GB is standard now
screen - HD AMOLED+ 5.2" in same form factor as the GS3, by reducing the bezel
get rid of the physical home button if it allows for a larger screen
TouchWiz 6, complete redesign (TW looks the same now as it did 3 versiosn ago), based on KLP
3500 mAh battery
wireless charging
I think this is a pretty realistic list.
strong radios with less reception issues
- I wouldn't count on it, never seen a recent Samsung phone that tops the Moto or HTC in reception. Would be awesome if that happens though.
cpu/gpu - whatever is the latest at that point. Probably Exynos, S4 Pro or newer
- agree
memory - 2GB is standard now
- most likely
screen - HD AMOLED+ 5.2" in same form factor as the GS3, by reducing the bezel
- It's looking like a 4.99 inch screen. Really hope the form factor shrinks, instead of just remaining the same.
get rid of the physical home button if it allows for a larger screen
- I want that physical home button to stay. Easier to wake up the phone with it
TouchWiz 6, complete redesign (TW looks the same now as it did 3 versiosn ago), based on KLP
- I actually look forward to no TW, stock android would make it fast and lean.
3500 mAh battery
- Not likely, physical size issue, unless you want a thick phone
wireless charging
- like the HTC DNA, if you want wireless charging, you'll probably sacrifice removable battery, or have a thicker phone to accommodate the charging coils.
Touchwiz doesn't look the same. Nature vs that old crap.... Very different
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oilfighter said:
strong radios with less reception issues
- I wouldn't count on it, never seen a recent Samsung phone that tops the Moto or HTC in reception. Would be awesome if that happens though.
cpu/gpu - whatever is the latest at that point. Probably Exynos, S4 Pro or newer
- agree
memory - 2GB is standard now
- most likely
screen - HD AMOLED+ 5.2" in same form factor as the GS3, by reducing the bezel
- It's looking like a 4.99 inch screen. Really hope the form factor shrinks, instead of just remaining the same.
get rid of the physical home button if it allows for a larger screen
- I want that physical home button to stay. Easier to wake up the phone with it
TouchWiz 6, complete redesign (TW looks the same now as it did 3 versiosn ago), based on KLP
- I actually look forward to no TW, stock android would make it fast and lean.
3500 mAh battery
- Not likely, physical size issue, unless you want a thick phone
wireless charging
- like the HTC DNA, if you want wireless charging, you'll probably sacrifice removable battery, or have a thicker phone to accommodate the charging coils.
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Have you not seen a note 2? Loads better when it comes to radio.
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Better radio/antenna
I figure if they fix the f'n radio/antenna design flaw of the S3 a 2750mah battery could last me about 2 days.
A 5" 1080p screen would be nice.
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I figure if they fix the f'n radio/antenna design flaw of the S3 a 2750mah battery could last me about 2 days.
A 5" 1080p screen would be nice.
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I agree. There isn't much to change in my opinion. I noticed when holding it in my hand, I have a tough time sometimes navigating while driving, but that's not even fair to say that's a flaw... lol The radio issue would be nice if fixed... It's kinda embarrassing to admin I'm paying for 1 single Verizon phone @ $108 and people with SPRINT have better service at me with a monthly contract of $60 for EVERYTHING UNLIMITED. sigh.
Please discuss non-Verizon S3 devices in the sticky thread.
Thanks
FNM
Don't misunderstand. I like this phone very very much.
I have Note 2, and except the pen and battery, S4 is way better. However, these are too important for me to change to S4. Besides, I bought the S4 with 30% sale off, so I can have some profit from selling it. After using the phone for a week, here is my mini-review
Feel: A little bit angular, but still much better than S3 and Note 2. Feel quite gorgeous. However the side is a little bit iPhone-alike.
Screen:
- Brightness: Oh well, the maximum manual brightness is not as bright as my Note 2 (A Brighter Note app activated), but outdoor visibility is way better. Under sun light with auto brightness, white is much whiter (brighter), black under s much less blueish - mean darker. I can feel a little better in reflective level. I think most reviewers forget to turn automatic brightness on.
- Color: colors with Standard mode or Professional mode (AdobeRGB mode) are great, sometimes I prefer the formal, sometimes I prefer the latter (actually it's still a little bit over saturated compared to Note 2 - master sequence Perseus kernel, but I feel more pleasant with it. Black is, true black. Every AMOLED screen I had before is still bright in dark room, but not S4. Don't worry about ink spots or black spots, even there are some you cannot recognize, believe me,
- Viewing angle: better than Note 2, truely
Best screen I have ever had so far.
Heat and Battery: Oh well. It's quite hot with 3G browsing or benchmarking, but still bearable. Battery is quite good, at the middle between S3 and Note 2 (both with mature kernels, so battery of S4 will be greater later)
Camera Compared to Note 2: better white balance (a bit), similar color reproduction and saturation, much sharper (I like zooming and cropping, but for most it's not very easy to recognize), better in shooting moving objects (not as good as One). Night photos is much similar to Note 2 (brightness, color) but much less noise.
But I could not find outdoor visibility mode like Note 2, a minus point.
User experience: benchmark king in almost any area: 630 ms in Sunspider, 13k Quadrant, 28k Antutu, 40fps GLBenchmark, 2600 Browsermark, 3630 Geekbench 2,... (I recorded the best scores). It's quick like Usain Bolt, shooting a low-light photo 2-3 times faster than Note 2.
However, there are still a few strange hipcups in browsing (when zooming maximum and then scrolling) but I'm sure that it's software problem. But the browser is bad, really bad. No quick control and flash support (or I didn't find out how), tab-switching is a pain in the ass. No direct bookmark syncing from desktop chrome. I used Ocean Browser, much much much better (I recommend everyone uses this app)
Sound: The same speaker as Note 2, but better with amplifier.
I don't want to spend a lot for phones, so I decided to wait for Note 3, which is surely better than S4 in important areas (screen, camera, speed) or at least on par.
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Don't misunderstand. I like this phone very very much.
I have Note 2, and except the pen and battery, S4 is way better. However, these are too important for me to change to S4. Besides, I bought the S4 with 30% sale off, so I can have some profit from selling it. After using the phone for a week, here is my mini-review
Feel: A little bit angular, but still much better than S3 and Note 2. Feel quite gorgeous. However the side is a little bit iPhone-alike.
Screen:
- Brightness: Oh well, the maximum manual brightness is not as bright as my Note 2 (A Brighter Note app activated), but outdoor visibility is way better. Under sun light with auto brightness, white is much whiter (brighter), black under s much less blueish - mean darker. I can feel a little better in reflective level. I think most reviewers forget to turn automatic brightness on.
- Color: colors with Standard mode or Professional mode (AdobeRGB mode) are great, sometimes I prefer the formal, sometimes I prefer the latter (actually it's still a little bit over saturated compared to Note 2 - master sequence Perseus kernel, but I feel more pleasant with it. Black is, true black. Every AMOLED screen I had before is still bright in dark room, but not S4. Don't worry about ink spots or black spots, even there are some you cannot recognize, believe me,
- Viewing angle: better than Note 2, truely
Best screen I have ever had so far.
Heat and Battery: Oh well. It's quite hot with 3G browsing or benchmarking, but still bearable. Battery is quite good, at the middle between S3 and Note 2 (both with mature kernels, so battery of S4 will be greater later)
Camera Compared to Note 2: better white balance (a bit), similar color reproduction and saturation, much sharper (I like zooming and cropping, but for most it's not very easy to recognize), better in shooting moving objects (not as good as One). Night photos is much similar to Note 2 (brightness, color) but much less noise.
But I could not find outdoor visibility mode like Note 2, a minus point.
User experience: benchmark king in almost any area: 630 ms in Sunspider, 13k Quadrant, 28k Antutu, 40fps GLBenchmark, 2600 Browsermark, 3630 Geekbench 2,... (I recorded the best scores). It's quick like Usain Bolt, shooting a low-light photo 2-3 times faster than Note 2.
However, there are still a few strange hipcups in browsing (when zooming maximum and then scrolling) but I'm sure that it's software problem. But the browser is bad, really bad. No quick control and flash support (or I didn't find out how), tab-switching is a pain in the ass. No direct bookmark syncing from desktop chrome. I used Ocean Browser, much much much better (I recommend everyone uses this app)
Sound: The same speaker as Note 2, but better with amplifier.
I don't want to spend a lot for phones, so I decided to wait for Note 3, which is surely better than S4 in important areas (screen, camera, speed) or at least on par.
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Thank you for the review. Apart from benchmarking, does the phone tend to heat up a lot in normal use? Also, which variant of the S4 did you have, the snapdragon one or exynos?
How did you get 30% off?
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Thank you for the review. Apart from benchmarking, does the phone tend to heat up a lot in normal use? Also, which variant of the S4 did you have, the snapdragon one or exynos?
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I9500 octa.
It's hotter than S3 and Note 2 in almost any case, but not much
cell128 said:
How did you get 30% off?
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Special sale event in Vietnam where first 100 get 30%, second 100 get 20% and last 100 get 10% off
Yeah, I think if you're a Note user who enjoys the S Pen features and huge display as well as the incredible batt life then the GS4 isn't for you.
Your benchmarks are pretty much the same as mine, I also got the Octa beast
Quick question but now that there's Air View does the S-Pen still have any advantages over just using your fingers? Besides some people finding it easier to draw with the pen then by hand.
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Quick question but now that there's Air View does the S-Pen still have any advantages over just using your fingers? Besides some people finding it easier to draw with the pen then by hand.
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Yes. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB7ydrYmOmc
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Yes. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB7ydrYmOmc
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Ah so if I'm understanding correctly the S-Pen still works on other browsers and things that aren't supported by the normal air view with Samsung on stock browser?
Masonfield said:
Ah so if I'm understanding correctly the S-Pen still works on other browsers and things that aren't supported by the normal air view with Samsung on stock browser?
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There is no "dot" presenting the location of your finger, I think SS will update this feature soon.
hung2900 said:
I9500 octa.
It's hotter than S3 and Note 2 in almost any case, but not much
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This just makes me sad hope it doesn't get noticebly hot while using on wifi atleast......Was hoping they wouldve improved this by now.
I've been using mine on WiFi non stop with no major heating up for 5h32mins now, still got 55% batt.
POLO_i780 said:
I've been using mine on WiFi non stop with no major heating up for 5h32mins now, still got 55% batt.
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Is that the screen on time or the general use time?
POLO_i780 said:
I also got the Octa beast
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Snap bro, picked my 32gb Black Frost Octa from Vodacom in Durban :good:
hung2900 said:
I9500 octa.
It's hotter than S3 and Note 2 in almost any case, but not much
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They say the octa gets warmer then the snapdragon version
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barondebxl said:
They say the octa gets warmer then the snapdragon version
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Maybe thats the issue samsung was having with the octa, overheating. I doubt you could overclock the octa much without it overheating.
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Snap bro, picked my 32gb Black Frost Octa from Vodacom in Durban :good:
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How awesome is it??? Must say, Samsung spoilt us, most other regions got 16GB S600.
By the way, its Tsepz_011 from MyBB.
hung2900 said:
... outdoor visibility is way better. Under sun light with auto brightness, white is much whiter (brighter), black under s much less blueish - mean darker. I can feel a little better in reflective level. I think most reviewers forget to turn automatic brightness on...
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Glad to hear about this directly from users :victory:
The poor outdoor visibility and ultra-slow charging were the main problems that Samsung needed to fix before I switched from my iPhone.
day 2 of using it... trade in my s3... love it so much.. definitely not selling (i said the same thg for my s3 )
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Is that the screen on time or the general use time?
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probably general use time. I think that 5 and half hours of screen on time would be more than a dream for a smartphone.