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Inspire to get ICS

Posted by LindsayC on 5 Dec 2011 2:52 PM
I was told by an HTC colleague, Stephanie, yesterday night, via e-mail that my phone, the HTC Inspire 4G (AT&T) would indeed be getting upgraded to the Android 4.0 IceCream Sandwich OS in "Early 2012"
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Found on the HTC support site I know that everyone is saying it wont get it due to no dual core but could they somehow optimize it for us? most likely AT&T wouldnt be getting the upgrade because they are lame but what about unlocked inspires? Just wanted to share this with the community

They lied.
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ICS ROM is already in beta here on xda. Was for no dual for being a reason, Google has already stated that it would run on any phone they could run Ginger.
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bilibox said:
Found on the HTC support site I know that everyone is saying it wont get it due to no dual core but could they somehow optimize it for us? most likely AT&T wouldnt be getting the upgrade because they are lame but what about unlocked inspires? Just wanted to share this with the community
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you haven't taken a stroll over to the dev section have you?
ICS is out (beta form) and there really isn't any need for another pointless ICS thread. It's been covered. The inspire will get it. Whether it's an official release from AT&T or not, the inspire has it. end of story.

MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
you haven't taken a stroll over to the dev section have you?
ICS is out (beta form) and there really isn't any need for another pointless ICS thread. It's been covered. The inspire will get it. Whether it's an official release from AT&T or not, the inspire has it. end of story.
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Agreed. And the apgs patch released this week works for the ics port.
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Agps*
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MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
you haven't taken a stroll over to the dev section have you?
ICS is out (beta form) and there really isn't any need for another pointless ICS thread. It's been covered. The inspire will get it. Whether it's an official release from AT&T or not, the inspire has it. end of story.
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Yes I have but just because a phone Can run it doesn't mean we will get it As so my friend has the incred. and He most likely wont be getting it but his phone could handle it and there are roms for his phone
I know rooted phones will obviously be getting4.0 but I'm talking about non rooted inspires

bilibox said:
Yes I have but just because a phone Can run it doesn't mean we will get it As so my friend has the incred. and He most likely wont be getting it but his phone could handle it and there are roms for his phone
I know rooted phones will obviously be getting4.0 but I'm talking about non rooted inspires
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Unless ist a custom Rom inspires have about a 5% chance of getting it. If they do get it then it won't be until next winter at least as the inspire has already been deemed EOL by ATT

zelendel said:
the inspire has already been deemed EOL by ATT
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Really? After 9 months? Why are they still selling it then?

pazzo02 said:
Really? After 9 months? Why are they still selling it then?
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Cause it's ahmazing.

Besides, officially, the latest we can get from HTC will ne the 2.3.5 and Sense 3.0 that just went out to unlocked Desire HDs over in Europe. That we should definitely see in "Early 2012".
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bilibox said:
Yes I have but just because a phone Can run it doesn't mean we will get it As so my friend has the incred. and He most likely wont be getting it but his phone could handle it and there are roms for his phone
I know rooted phones will obviously be getting4.0 but I'm talking about non rooted inspires
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...oh yeah, non-rooted phones because you know, that was stated in the OP how silly of me to not infer this. Like I said and my comment speaks for itself, whether or not we get ICS officially isn't the question, the beta is out, rooted phones will get it. If you or anyone likes ICS that much and needs it, consider getting a phone that will support it non-rooted or just root your inspire if it means that much. Again, another pointless thread about ICS. Nothing has changed, it is still the same information.

AT&T always ends life of a phone after 2-3 updates. They don't support phones for very long because they're more worried about making money from new phones. If they supported their old phones, they'd lose their precious money.

I flashed the beta 4 build of ISC and am not real wild about the UI, anyone else feel that way?

ehupp said:
I flashed the beta 4 build of ISC and am not real wild about the UI, anyone else feel that way?
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I am exactly the opposite. The UI is awesome.
You must be a fan of sense. I prefer Goggle plain.

tweaked said:
i am exactly the opposite. The ui is awesome.
You must be a fan of sense. I prefer goggle plain.
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this this this!!!

Not only will ICS run perfectly fine on a single core fun (I have Beta IV) it uses less RAM than gingerbread does.
And I know this isn't the right place for it, but because I have no other posts I can't ask in development...
Have any of you guys found an Undervoltable Kernel that will work with ICS?

This really is gonna be a never ending issue. This will always be happening unless you get a nexus or euro unbranded version of the phone. As long as the carriers control the updates we may get one maybe two updates but that will be about it. This has always been and always will be the case

Absolutely love ICS. just waiting for it to be bug free. Unfortunately, I think driver support will be limited unless released by HTC.
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mindmajick said:
Absolutely love ICS. just waiting for it to be bug free. Unfortunately, I think driver support will be limited unless released by HTC.
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Well see thats the thing. HTC nor anyone else has or will ever release the driver source code as it is not theirs to give. This has always been my issue with AOSP roms. the open source drivers just cant stand up to the OEM drivers.

Are we EOL?

Noticed today that the Droid Charge is now FREE with 2 year contract. Think we're about to be EOLed?
Phone has almost been out a year, plus it won't be exclusive when US Cellular starts selling the Charge in April as the Samaung Aviator.

Erm...in the email sent to me by Verizon,they said the Droid Charge is free until March 31,2012. It's a promotion they have going on.
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DirgeExtinction said:
Erm...in the email sent to me by Verizon,they said the Droid Charge is free until March 31,2012. It's a promotion they have going on.
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Right, but why? My guess is to clear out inventory. They are no longer selling the Thunderbolt and the Revolution is free as well. With the launch of the New Droids (Fighter, Blade, Incredible 4G, etc.) coming soon, I think they're cleaning house. Once inventory is gone, I think we're EOL.
The silver lining? The Aviator doesn't even launch until next month. It will be CDMA/LTE, so it could have the same RIL. I think Samsung will have to update it to ICS, so this means there's hope that our devs can port even if Verizon refuses to release an ICS official OTA.

It's been EOL in my mind ever since they announced that we're not getting ICS.

I was in a Verizon store yesterday. I picked up 2 charges and, without me even asking, the rep openly admitted that ICS is coming to the charge.

tintn00 said:
It's been EOL in my mind ever since they announced that we're not getting ICS.
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They never actually announced anything, one way or the other.

Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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luis86dr said:
Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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Yeah we had "reps" saying when we would be getting the GB update... and they were all wrong.

luis86dr said:
Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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this statement is
facts
pure facts
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Gb update I'd believe, but ICS I don't see that happening anytime soon. If it even happens. Rumors are rumors, not facts. Until a official statement from Verizon or Samsung is released, it will still be a rumor.
Edit: On a side note that doesn't mean we wont get it seeing as JT is progressing with ICS on charge. (Beta 2 is released) It just wont come from Verizon imo.
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luis86dr said:
Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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I do not know if this was referencing my post or not, but this was after the sale and there was no previous mention of anything relating to ICS.
I do not know if what he said was fact or not, nor do I really care, but I found it odd that it was mentioned out of the blue, like it was some new info that seemed important.

snt said:
I was in a Verizon store yesterday. I picked up 2 charges and, without me even asking, the rep openly admitted that ICS is coming to the charge.
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Reps often times no less than the average user of a phone enthusiast forum, and those that do know more tend to just sit and look at news sites. They are not high enough up the food chain to get any info about updates until shortly before release at the earliest. That would go for anyone working in any store, managers included. They don't provide the information until the last minute to avoid any critical issues stopping an update.

luis86dr said:
On a side note that doesn't mean we wont get it seeing as JT is progressing with ICS on charge. (Beta 2 is released) It just wont come from Verizon imo.
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Yeah, but the issue is that Samsung's RIL does not fall under GPL and does not need to be open sourced. So, they're not obligated to release source code and, to this day, they have refused to do so.
JT may eventually get a working RIL for AOSP/CM9 use, and that would be great... But, having said that, it still won't be an RIL optimized for the Charge to the same extent that a RIL built with absolute knowledge of Samsung source code would be (please, correct me if I'm wrong here).
I think it would be absolutely absurd for the Aviator to be US Cellular's "flagship" device (which it will be) if Samsung isn't planning to build an official version of ICS (complete with TouchWiz and their GB-esque ICS interface). If the RIL is built for CDMA/LTE, then it's possible that devs may be able to port the Aviator's stock ROM over to the Charge on Verizon and modify that base into an InfinityROM, Eclipse, or TweakAviator ROM. Not 100% sure this will work with Samsung, but I've seen it before with HTC devices--with the Eris, a lot of the ROMs were ported CDMA Hero ROMs. This would provide kernels, ROM bases, and modems all specifically designed to work in unison. In my opinion, this will result in extremely stable ICS ROMs (as compared to a reverse-engineered RIL for AOSP/CM9). No?

reps dont know anything about anything. we're never getting ICS unless IMnuts, Nitro, JT or one of the other developers give us a hack. Ill prob switch over the GS3 well before that happens (not cuz of the developers, cuz of samsung and verizon, the developers all kick ass!)

KarateExplosion6 said:
Yeah, but the issue is that Samsung's RIL does not fall under GPL and does not need to be open sourced. So, they're not obligated to release source code and, to this day, they have refused to do so.
JT may eventually get a working RIL for AOSP/CM9 use, and that would be great... But, having said that, it still won't be an RIL optimized for the Charge to the same extent that a RIL built with absolute knowledge of Samsung source code would be (please, correct me if I'm wrong here).
I think it would be absolutely absurd for the Aviator to be US Cellular's "flagship" device (which it will be) if Samsung isn't planning to build an official version of ICS (complete with TouchWiz and their GB-esque ICS interface). If the RIL is built for CDMA/LTE, then it's possible that devs may be able to port the Aviator's stock ROM over to the Charge on Verizon and modify that base into an InfinityROM, Eclipse, or TweakAviator ROM. Not 100% sure this will work with Samsung, but I've seen it before with HTC devices--with the Eris, a lot of the ROMs were ported CDMA Hero ROMs. This would provide kernels, ROM bases, and modems all specifically designed to work in unison. In my opinion, this will result in extremely stable ICS ROMs (as compared to a reverse-engineered RIL for AOSP/CM9). No?
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If ICS is released with the aviator, it may be possible seeing as their the same device. But that is a big if. Samsung should just release the RIL source. We already know they suck at coding. Why hide it?
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cnoevl21 said:
Ill prob switch over the GS3 well before that happens (not cuz of the developers, cuz of samsung and verizon, the developers all kick ass!)
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Why go Samsung? By the time SG3 comes out, Samsung's not gonna update it to Jellybean and your gonna say "ill get the SG4"...Better off getting an HTC phone with a Samsung Screen..HTC good about releasing source and has good development. Although Samsung has thinner devices.

jager420 said:
Why go Samsung? By the time SG3 comes out, Samsung's not gonna update it to Jellybean and your gonna say "ill get the SG4"...Better off getting an HTC phone with a Samsung Screen..HTC good about releasing source and has good development. Although Samsung has thinner devices.
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...or just Moto for their superior internals

JihadSquad said:
...or just Moto for their superior internals
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...and locked bootloaders? No thanks.

luis86dr said:
If ICS is released with the aviator, it may be possible seeing as their the same device. But that is a big if. Samsung should just release the RIL source. We already know they suck at coding. Why hide it?
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One can argue, if their code is suck, why you want it then? or if you want to ask some one for something and you called them suck, do you deserve to have it?

usererror404 said:
...and locked bootloaders? No thanks.
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Honestly, I've had three moto phones and while not having full access to flashing kernels and not having a real recovery sucks, their hardware is insane.
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Kernel source posted for One S!

And away we go!
htcdev: Kernel source code for the HTC One S has been uploaded: http://t.co/oWFTzI51

very nicee

I'm putting an overclockable kernel from source together tonight.
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Can't wait to try it out!
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oooohhhh yheaaaa!! Gooo modding goooo!!

Woooo
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Hah! I wonder if it has anything to do with the e-mail I sent to Peter Chou (htc's CEO) regarding their blatant disregard for GPL rules and continued dishonesty with the community? I'd like to think it was. I'll just pretend for the moment that I made it happen (lol, somehow I doubt it).
I called them on their BS on claiming that the community agreed that 90-120 days was acceptable.

Without a real kernel dev this isn't much worth, in the one x forum's are still not stable and there are real pro's.
Let's see..

I'm pretty sure I know why they waited. Today was the beginning of the update for the One S on T-Mobile US. If I'm not mistaken, T-Mobile's One S is the last one to get the radio and software update to match the rest of the One S devices. So it sort of makes sense, they didn't release the kernel sources until after the update was ready. I, personally, am not bothered cuz I just got my One S today, but I can completely understand the frustration for the 1st day buyers on T-Mo, and the global versions, since you guys have been waiting months now, it would seem. Either way, It's here now, and that means we all will get to reap the benefits. Now, where's my OTA already? LOL

Couldn't see U.S. listed in there.

flamingblue8z said:
I'm pretty sure I know why they waited. Today was the beginning of the update for the One S on T-Mobile US. If I'm not mistaken, T-Mobile's One S is the last one to get the radio and software update to match the rest of the One S devices. So it sort of makes sense, they didn't release the kernel sources until after the update was ready. I, personally, am not bothered cuz I just got my One S today, but I can completely understand the frustration for the 1st day buyers on T-Mo, and the global versions, since you guys have been waiting months now, it would seem. Either way, It's here now, and that means we all will get to reap the benefits. Now, where's my OTA already? LOL
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I was thinking the same thing. Makes sense
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torxx said:
Without a real kernel dev this isn't much worth, in the one x forum's are still not stable and there are real pro's.
Let's see..
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True...should we start a pool to buy a 1S for a recognized developer?
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flamingblue8z said:
I'm pretty sure I know why they waited. Today was the beginning of the update for the One S on T-Mobile US. If I'm not mistaken, T-Mobile's One S is the last one to get the radio and software update to match the rest of the One S devices. So it sort of makes sense, they didn't release the kernel sources until after the update was ready. I, personally, am not bothered cuz I just got my One S today, but I can completely understand the frustration for the 1st day buyers on T-Mo, and the global versions, since you guys have been waiting months now, it would seem. Either way, It's here now, and that means we all will get to reap the benefits. Now, where's my OTA already? LOL
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While it does seem that HTC waited for the update to release the source... It's unfortunate that they didn't include the source for the US Tmobile version yet.... This probably won't be an issue since most run EU roms anyways(AOKP for me)... The One X for At&t is still waiting for source... As torxx mentioned source means nothing without someone to develop a kernel... Hopefully we will see something on the horizon sooner rather than later
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About time. HTC have dragged their heels for far too long.
Excited for all the new kernels.
Where is ProTekk??

Wohooo! Time to get building! If we're lucky, we can get CM9 running perfectly now. *Gets on it*

Does this mean aokp/cm9 roms will work better? Or better yet will they be able to be completed with working camcorder etc.?
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It's great to see that HTC is releasing kernel source code for devices even if they aren't releasing it for other devices, such as the HTC amaze 4G.
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S4 source should be fairly stable. I should have a kernel built for you guys later tonight. One x tegra source was a mess which is why tegra is taking awhile.
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ridearoundsolo said:
Does this mean aokp/cm9 roms will work better? Or better yet will they be able to be completed with working camcorder etc.?
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Yep. Should open the door to fix that remaining issue.
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ozzie1p said:
Couldn't see U.S. listed in there.
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I just noticed that myself. Seems odd. Maybe someone can find out what version the kernel is and compare it to the sources already posted. It seems, however, that this 1.84 update hasn't hit any XDA members yet, since I haven't seen anyone on here post that they received it yet. I saw a lot of talk about an unlocked bootloader being enough to prevent an update from being performed, but I think it's all rumor. I could be wrong though. I have yet to unlock the bootloader & root, because I'm waiting to find out what issues I will run into later. For instance, this Tampered banner sort of has me worried. Plus, re-locking the device has its own separate banner from Locked? Has me really concerned about any potential warranty exchanges in the future, should my device need one. Hopefully this all gets sorted out. I'm really liking Sense, this is my first time using it, and fortunately I got a slimmed down version, vs. 3.x & older. But I do have an itch to go back to some AOSP ICS like I had going on my G2x last month. Either way, I haven't even signed into my Google account yet, and I've had the phone about 7 hours now. There's plenty to do without needing to enter my Google credentials.

Slide to Wake - any chance of implementing this?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346760
Basically you slide along the capacitive buttons to wake, and slide the other way to turn the screen off. Would be AMAZINGLY better than having to reach up to the power button. (Even with my large hands it's a pain). Any chance of you awesome, amazing, handsome/beautiful, devs implementing this?

It is possible. Though i believe we will need some kernel experts, and kernel Source.

great rom!! will try it out

+1

expertzero1 said:
great rom!! will try it out
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lol wait what????

Probably not good for battery life. No deep sleep as far as I'm aware.
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Need kernel source first
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Wrong section, this is for releases only
And yeah I was planning on implementing this once we get kernel source. And OTG support once I get a chance to look at the device hardware specs.

Well good sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar!
And could a mod move this to the appropriate section, with my apologies?

expertzero1 said:
great rom!! will try it out
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Best post in dev section
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rohan32 said:
Wrong section, this is for releases only
And yeah I was planning on implementing this once we get kernel source. And OTG support once I get a chance to look at the device hardware specs.
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IF we get kernel source. AT&T will release it when this phone is a year old and not many people at buying it anymore. It baffles me that they can get away with not releasing it.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
IF we get kernel source. AT&T will release it when this phone is a year old and not many people at buying it anymore. It baffles me that they can get away with not releasing it.
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Based on what happened with the One S, it seems like the kernel source for our One X, probably labeled for the Rogers One X, will be released around the beginning of July, around 2 months after the release date.
We may not get the kernel source targeted specifically towards the AT&T version, but Rogers got the bootloader unlock, so I highly doubt they won't get the kernel source either. HTC just seems to have some 60 day window on their kernel source drops.

aqtrans said:
Based on what happened with the One S, it seems like the kernel source for our One X, probably labeled for the Rogers One X, will be released around the beginning of July, around 2 months after the release date.
We may not get the kernel source targeted specifically towards the AT&T version, but Rogers got the bootloader unlock, so I highly doubt they won't get the kernel source either. HTC just seems to have some 60 day window on their kernel source drops.
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I thought it was said tho that AT&T was legally obligated to provide the source code?
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I always wonder, who enforces the source code thing? Sure "legally obligated" blah blah but who actually brings up the suit?

Well any one of us could, but usually its a large organization like the EFF or some group that enforces GPL policy.

Noob-ish question here... is there any way this wouldn't require any major flashing? I'd prefer to stick to rooted stock.

Sense 4+ with jellybean

Does anybody have a more specific eta for the update? HTC said it would be this month but it is almost over. Somebody enlighten me with anything?
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Well I unfortunately cannot enlighten you although I can say that month estimate would be for the international (Tegra). One X and for what I know it might be Christmas before AT&T or some other carrier releases jelly bean for the HTC One XL
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Thanks very much ;D still a great device
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ttinjust96 said:
Thanks very much ;D still a great device
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great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers

bloodrain954 said:
great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers
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Wow dude, you can help yourself can you?
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That's why there are developers and custom roms
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bloodrain954 said:
great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers
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You're free to switch to a different OEM, no one is stopping you... For the rest of us, we're more than happy to use custom ROMs, they're usually much better than any OEM's updates anyways.

d3v14n7 said:
You're free to switch to a different OEM, no one is stopping you... For the rest of us, we're more than happy to use custom ROMs, they're usually much better than any OEM's updates anyways.
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Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.

Mister J said:
Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Just out of honest curiosity, why is that?

Mister J said:
Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Not quite true, for some devices the lack of update promotes devs to produce some great unique roms. Port updated versions of android to a device that would otherwise never receive it
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fungied.cheese said:
Just out of honest curiosity, why is that?
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One factor is by that time most devs have probably moved onwards to more current devices.
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fungied.cheese said:
Just out of honest curiosity, why is that?
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They can use the official updates as a base and then make their ROM from there. The official updates contain all the drivers and features and its easy to build up. Making ROMs from scratch is difficult to say the least.

Mister J said:
Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Not quite... Having the OEM's official update makes creating custom ROMs MUCH easier, sure. But being easier doesn't make them better, in fact, its quite the opposite... The better custom ROMs come from being built off of the AOSP source, not from the OEM's source. ROMs built from the OEM's source will still have many of the official ROM's inherent flaws, which kinda defeats the purpose of custom ROMs to begin with (and the main reason why I haven't flashed anything onto my One X yet)... Then we have porting ROMs from other devices which is one of the main reasons why you see ROMs with missing features such as cameras, WiFi and so on, along with other bloat and garbage files/drivers that aren't needed for the device it's being ported onto, but may cause issues if removed completely whether its used or not.
The problem devs are facing now is that they're spread too thin throughout hundreds of devices, back in the HTC Dream/Tmobile G1 days, building ROMs from the AOSP source wasn't a problem because they were all working on the same device, and could pool their resources to turn out MUCH better, faster and stable ROMs at a MUCH faster pace... Today, that's seemingly impossible since there are so many great devices out there (and more being released every few months), not to mention the competition between devs for recognition and donations, which isn't good for the community as a whole... Devs simply cannot keep up, so instead of building off of AOSP (which takes longer), most of them build off of the official updated ROMs or ROMs ported from other devices to make things easier and have a faster turn around time. Not to mention there are many "devs" (and I use this term lightly) out there who simply copy and paste code around, add a few things here and there, add a launcher and theme, slap their name on it, call it a finished ROM and then ask for donations for all their "hard work" (again, using this term lightly), when in fact, all the hard work was already done by other devs... Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the work devs do for basically nothing in return, and have donated to many who deserved it, without them, we'd be at the mercy of OEMs, which is never a good thing (see iOS), but there's only so much they can do on their own, and with so many handsets on the market, it's very difficult to stay focused on a single handset for more than 6-8 months...

I Concur...
bloodrain954 said:
great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers
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After three HTC phones and seeing this same pattern, I will not be buying another HTC phone. I know AT&T is to blame too, but HTC was committed to build quality and dedication to less devices and more support. I haven't seen it to my level of satisfaction. Maybe I'm on the wrong carrier, I don't know...

mjwitt2 said:
After three HTC phones and seeing this same pattern, I will not be buying another HTC phone. I know AT&T is to blame too, but HTC was committed to build quality and dedication to less devices and more support. I haven't seen it to my level of satisfaction. Maybe I'm on the wrong carrier, I don't know...
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Unless you get a nexus device then anywhere else you go this will be normal
Not directed at you.
We are in a forum about rooting and flashing custom ROMs, not about whining when will a release for new software come out forum.
So I suggest to start flashing custom ROMs and stop talking about this.
It will get released when it gets released, and no amount of anyone bashing carriers or whining will make it come sooner.
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superchilpil said:
Not quite true, for some devices the lack of update promotes devs to produce some great unique roms. Port updated versions of android to a device that would otherwise never receive it
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Exactly this. I came from the HTC Aria, who's last official update was 2.2. Currently, there are community built ICS and JB builds that are ~99% complete in terms of functionality.

I upgraded yesterday to the HTC OneX+ and it has the updated software that OneX will probably get soon and if I knew how to root this sucker and pull the RUU off I would be more than happy to oblige. Anyone familiar with this process can chime in and help pull it from my phone because it really is nice especially the custom options in stock.

superchilpil said:
Unless you get a nexus device then anywhere else you go this will be normal
Not directed at you.
We are in a forum about rooting and flashing custom ROMs, not about whining when will a release for new software come out forum.
So I suggest to start flashing custom ROMs and stop talking about this.
It will get released when it gets released, and no amount of anyone bashing carriers or whining will make it come sooner.
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It's cool, I know what you are saying. I'm very grateful this community exists, and for brilliant developers that feed my addiction of flashing roms.
It's places like this that fill the gap between an OEM's product and our expectations.

olorolo said:
I upgraded yesterday to the HTC OneX+ and it has the updated software that OneX will probably get soon and if I knew how to root this sucker and pull the RUU off I would be more than happy to oblige. Anyone familiar with this process can chime in and help pull it from my phone because it really is nice especially the custom options in stock.
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It would be useless for you to do so, it has a completely different processor. And since we are due for an update soon our devs are just going to wait until its released to make a custom rom
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