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Has anyone here seen this phone?
ww.youtube.com/watch?v=PhKxpYRip18
Pretty awesome GUI. Would it be at all possible for someone to mimic it's interface on an android phone? Even if it were like say, a home replacement app?
The idea behind the interface is pretty cool, but this phone leaves something to be desired.
the zooom control looks like 100times better than pinch to zoom
feels more like the android cut thing for setting images... or like zoom on andwobble
but no big news.
don't fancy the ui. I can use my android phone single handedly just great
And I would miss kinetic scroling... If they don't include it, they are nuts
At 5:44 she actually did what I would fear the most - release her thumb too early, starting the wrong app
plus the phone is still to lame for everyday use...
But design looks very nice. and the idea is based on minority report xD
Yeah, I've posted about this phone in a few threads (X10). It looks prety tight. Hasn't been released yet. I'm gonna get one just to have it, when it comes out. Should be easy to port to android phones.
But I'm getting THIS one in a couple of months.
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Should be easy to port to android phones.
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nice to hear someone saying that
i have also known the first else for ... a long time? and always liked the gui. would be nice to have that for my android phone
i just noticed the first else device looks kind of like a complete black, even slightly flatter (backside) iphone 4g xD
Is that Apples new design this year? (The flat gray color, no more shiny chrome)? And also no more roundness? (How the bezel is like flat going to the top and bottom)
It certainly presents some interesting concepts, especially with one thumb use.
However I don't see their entire OS being a success in the near future.
I was hoping to be blown away by the feature list, or even just a huge change from gingerbread in the form of an amazing new feature. But To me, it just seems like a revamp to the UI and a general polish. It sorta left me.. disappointed. Maybe I was just expecting too much, maybe its too deep in the mobile OS game for groundbreaking features to constantly be churned out. Who knows.. I just wasnt really feeling the excitement about NFC, don't see my self rubbing my phone with my buddies to get things done, or using it to make payments when I have a perfectly fine debit card i dont mind getting a few scratches on. Dont be fooled, I may have a iPhone 4s right now, but its only because I have an android tablet and I was under the assumption that Nexus would be amazing and ICS would be equally on par, and I was going to sell the 4s to gain a profit and buy the Nexus. But after the unveiling of both, I'm not sure anymore if its on par with iOS5 for the time being, which is growing on me. What are your thoughts?
inb4 anti-apple fanboys
yeah, it was a "meh" experience for me too, the virtual buttons is nothing new, they just took more or less honeycomb and put it on a phone
Well, I didn't expect much - they said early that it will be HC for phones. But I think we must look inside first. I hope the source code will be released. I wonder how the browser will change (will it be closer to Chrome).
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Well, I didn't expect much - they said early that it will be HC for phones. But I think we must look inside first. I hope the source code will be released. I wonder how the browser will change (will it be closer to Chrome).
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I believe the source code was already leaked. I thought ICS overall was the best part of the whole presentation. The phone itself 10/10 design wise, but the hardware isn't on par for me... not for the next 2 years anyway.
I was surprised a little that there was no sd card slot added, which is what everyone complained about since the beginning! I will need to get my grubby hands on ICS before I can completely judge it, but just a underwhelming tone I took away from the whole ordeal. On the other hand, I'm still excited about the Galaxy Note! As long as it doesn't cost an arm and a leg!
Looks like its a bigger update for phones than tablets really, I can't see much that the Motorola Xoom I had for a while couldn't do on 3.2, although like I said I guess a lot of the Honeycomb functionality will make its way in now to phones.
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I was surprised a little that there was no sd card slot added, which is what everyone complained about since the beginning! I will need to get my grubby hands on ICS before I can completely judge it, but just a underwhelming tone I took away from the whole ordeal. On the other hand, I'm still excited about the Galaxy Note! As long as it doesn't cost an arm and a leg!
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This is my thoughts exactly. I see the note as a far superior device to the nexus. Once it gets ICS then it will blow the galaxy nexus away.
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Well, I didn't expect much - they said early that it will be HC for phones. But I think we must look inside first. I hope the source code will be released. I wonder how the browser will change (will it be closer to Chrome).
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I'm also curios about the browser. It seems it will support sync bookmarks from Chrome. That will be great if so. Still cannot find any video/post to introduce the browser in Android 4.0.
From what I've seen of it, it looks excellent. It doesn't look WP7 excellent. But it appears to have some Honeycomb touches.
I'm very impressed by ice cream, seems like a great improvement.
But it seems like most comments in this thread is about Galaxy Nexus, it didn't impress me very much except for the screen.
I am impressed!
- no more fragmentation, same app on phone and tablet
- HW accelerated ui
- integrated data usage control app
- browser engine is closer to webkit sources and have HC bookmark sync
- nice task manager, swipe and close app
- notification LED
- hi res contacts photo sync ?
I am worried about:
- no SD CARD in Nexus phone. i hope that the OS support the extention. EDIT: It has support - i've installed SDK
- on screen hw buttons, not my type
- no word about tethering, i hope is still present
- no word about open source it ?!?!?
- i hope face unlock does not increase even more the "wake up lag"
- no pen API - my next phone will be SG Note, i hope. EDIT: It has, as pointed by jeandujardin01
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I am worried about:
- no SD CARD in Nexus phone. i hope that the OS support the extention.
- on screen hw buttons, not my type
- no word about tethering, i hope is still present
- no word about open source it ?!?!?
- i hope face unlock does not increase even more the "wake up lag"
- no pen API - my next phone will be SG Note, i hope.
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http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0-highlights.html
I dont know what you guys were expecting.
I guess if your coming from WP7 or Android Tablet the UI changes and people app is ho hum. IOS and Android phone users should all be blown away.
Alot of the nagging annoyances are (seemingly) gone...more gestures in the UI , Full screen high res caller id , uniformity in copy/paste , Easier customization , Data management , screen cap etc....just a slew of things you no longer need 3rd party apps for.
For contacts and social aspects it blows away iOS and is a step up from WP7 ((from what I see)).
The hardware I wasnt crazy about. Only the HD screen +notification light was appealing.
Android OS was already ahead of everyone in terms of feature by a good margin. iOS caught up within arms reach with Siri + notifications. Android 4.0 seemingly does a good job of once again widening that gap.
If WP7 came on better hardware maybe id change my stance. But Android 4.0 is extremely impressive. Only question is the HW acceleration + garbage collection problem finally fixed or is it still lag/choppy filled.
Yeah but, you know, what about the beautiful Roboto font? Doesn't that make it worth the wait for ICS?
I think visual design elements in a GUI should speak for themselves. If you have to say too much about your new font then maybe you've failed. Why is everybody designing 'flat' two-dimensional looking graphics for their GUIs? How about building in more visual customisation out of the box? Want a glosy glassy 3-D look? Sure, just go to settings and customise it from the in-built choice of four or five that we put there for you. Oh wait, we didn't.
Still only a QWERTY keyboard? Still got to go into the 'number/symbol page' to enter basic characters? Can't users just have a wider range of choice for text entry withouth resorting to downloading keyboards from the Market or buying an HTC device?
Face Unlock? In my head that shortens quite nicely to a well known expletive, which is probably what we'll all be saying when it doesn't work first time when we need it too ; ) You know, like, if we're outside, facing south and it's before 11am or something.
Do some of the new features remind people a lot of what certain launchers are doing, not to mention Cyanogen and MIUI ROM features?
Joking aside, I too am kind of dissappointed as you can probably tell. I've been holding off buying a new phone for months now (still on my trusty HD2) and I think I'm going to have to wait a while longer. And don't even get me started on the lack of a microSD card slot in a device with a high res screen, onto which I'm going to load large movies/tv shows that will fill 32 gigs very quickly.
Windows Phone 7 is still a bust for me, and I won't even consider an iPhone until they stick at least 4" screen in it, so I may end up getting a 'proper' Android phone after all, but that's not really a very positive way to go about selecting a device. So many manufacturers release multiple handset designs a year, but how many of us select one based on the least compromises in the handset/OS, rather than 'extra' features it has over and above our basic needs?
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I am impressed!
- no more fragmentation, same app on phone and tablet
- HW accelerated ui
- integrated data usage control app
- browser engine is closer to webkit sources and have HC bookmark sync
- nice task manager, swipe and close app
- notification LED
I am worried about:
- no SD CARD in Nexus phone. i hope that the OS support the extention.
- on screen hw buttons, not my type
- no word about tethering, i hope is still present
- no word about open source it ?!?!?
- i hope face unlock does not increase even more the "wake up lag"
- no pen API - my next phone will be SG Note, i hope.
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should be got sd card slot
based the link below
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_nexus-4219.php
Eh, I must say, google is never the one to overhype their software updates and honestly they've yet to be impressive. Microsoft and apple hype their updates up because they can live up to the hype. The only people walking around anticipating the new ICS update is... Well... You guys. IOS and even wp7 hyped their updates because they delivered more than just a definitive Ui change.
snice the SDK has released is it better to start developing for ICS4 already?
Yeah, not impressed at all. What were they thinking with this presentation?
Don't remember who from Google said something like "you'll be amazed at how many new features we added in such a short time".
This made me think of several things we saw this past year like:
-better USB compatibility (HID?) they talked about at the Google I/O -> not a single accessorie
-same Os for tablets and Phones -> were are the tablets?
-HDMI out used to display something like a real desktop on an HD screen like Motorola and some others were trying to make -> a phone without HDMI port?
-unified Os, unified updates? -> nothing discussed
No need to say how much I was disappointed.
But, well, that's overall improvement, just that...
Impressed? We have not had a chance to use it yet?!
All i want from ICS is a HW accelerated UI. People will swear othewise, but Androids UI experience is NOT liquid smooth. It gets frustrating at times
I'm reserving my judgement till I get my hands on it. So far though, I can't say I'm either disappointed or blown away. My device works as I'd like it to for now. The progression goes something like this: keep on stock for as long as I'm able to hold out; unlock the damn bootloader and go crazy with ROMs; anticipate my new device; repeat the insanity. Right now, I'm only at the first step. Maybe I'd be disappointed if the news came while I was at the third.
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Got my hands on a verizon 32 gig blue SGSIII. Just got it activated, had to have one shipped in since it wasn't in stock.
Goodness, it's light. I've already forgotten it was in my hands a few times.
I do miss my physical keyboard - a lot. I won't ever get over this, but in the short time I've had it that's all I don't like...and knew that going in.
It'll take me a while to get situated and oriented, and a few days to clear out my 64 sdcard for it.
Can't wait to get to a hotel tomorrow so I can get some power for my laptop and back the device up and start exploring it.
Tempting as it is to install apps (can't wait to re-play my games on this lovely and large display) I can wait until I can pull the device structure onto my computer.
Just wanted to give a shout out and say hi, looking forward to fun stuff with you all in the future!
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Got my hands on a verizon 32 gig blue SGSIII. Just got it activated, had to have one shipped in since it wasn't in stock.
Goodness, it's light. I've already forgotten it was in my hands a few times.
I do miss my physical keyboard - a lot. I won't ever get over this, but in the short time I've had it that's all I don't like...and knew that going in.
It'll take me a while to get situated and oriented, and a few days to clear out my 64 sdcard for it.
Can't wait to get to a hotel tomorrow so I can get some power for my laptop and back the device up and start exploring it.
Tempting as it is to install apps (can't wait to re-play my games on this lovely and large display) I can wait until I can pull the device structure onto my computer.
Just wanted to give a shout out and say hi, looking forward to fun stuff with you all in the future!
Sent from a digital distance.
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Congrats! You may have missed the bootloader drama but you are just in time for the good stuff. Enjoy.
Thanks!
I was gonna try to play with it unrooted stock for a while, but found something that's a dealbreaker.
Can't turn off "presidential alerts" under emergency alerts. So, looks like i'll have to make time to go through the process now.
Any spyware I should axe while i'm at it? New to both verizon and samsung, but not to bending Android to my will. If anyone feels like posting here obnoxious intrusive crap to remove, i'm open to suggestions fom those more familiar with my new purchase then I am yet.
Thanks!
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I was gonna try to play with it unrooted stock for a while, but found something that's a dealbreaker.
Can't turn off "presidential alerts" under emergency alerts. So, looks like i'll have to make time to go through the process now.
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"dealbreaker"? Gosh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Alert_System#What_the_national_level_EAS_would_not_do
In a The New York Times article (correction printed January 3, 2002)[1] "No president has ever used the current [EAS] system or its technical predecessors in the last 50 years, despite the Soviet missile crisis, a presidential assassination, the Oklahoma City bombing, major earthquakes and three recent high-alert terrorist warnings... Michael K. Powell, the then chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, which oversees the Emergency Alert System, pointed to 'the ubiquitous media environment,' arguing that the system was, in effect, scooped by CNN, MSNBC, Fox News Channel and other channels... [FEMA] activates the alert system nationally at the behest of the White House on 34 50,000-watt stations that reach 98 percent of Americans... Beyond that, the current EAS signal is an audio message only—which pre-empts all programming—so that viewers who were watching color images of the trade center on Sept. 11 would have been able to see only a screen with a generic text message along with a presidential voice-over, if an emergency message had been activated."[1]
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There has only been a test in 2011 of the system, with mixed results. The likelihood of such a notification in the future is incredibly low, but it's only for major emergencies of national implication.
Still, if you really, really need to uncheck that box . . .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1829681
Blue6IX said:
Thanks!
I was gonna try to play with it unrooted stock for a while, but found something that's a dealbreaker.
Can't turn off "presidential alerts" under emergency alerts. So, looks like i'll have to make time to go through the process now.
Any spyware I should axe while i'm at it? New to both verizon and samsung, but not to bending Android to my will. If anyone feels like posting here obnoxious intrusive crap to remove, i'm open to suggestions fom those more familiar with my new purchase then I am yet.
Thanks!
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Like the post above says thats kind of a stupid dealbreaker. Its not like youre going to get text messages like its the presidents twitter page. If you are that paranoid about it turn the phone back in because 'they' might be tracking you with it.
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Like the post above says thats kind of a stupid dealbreaker. Its not like youre going to get text messages like its the presidents twitter page. If you are that paranoid about it turn the phone back in because 'they' might be tracking you with it.
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Appreciate if you'd take your hate and assumptions elsewhere, it is counter to the culture of XDA.
My issue is I hit a box I can't uncheck, an option that isn't optional. What it is, is irrelevant to the fact that it's something I couldn't change.
The dealbreaker reference is towards keeping the device unrooted stock.
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No hate, just assumptions which is my bad. Didn't mean to come off like that and for that I'm sorry. Just been looking at dev topics too long where some people are oblivious to everything.
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No worries, appreciate the reply back!
So, rather then litter the forums with duplicate threads or encouraging duplicates, i'll just toss random questions and happenings in this one regarding my experiences with the device.
At least until i've had time to go through this sub-forum for the device more.
Feel free to answer any questions or not seen here, or comment on anything in this thread.
I just got home and my otterbox defender was here. Never had an otterbox before, so - wow.
Insane level of protection. Before it was so light and fragile feeling. Now, I like it so much better. A little bit of weight, a little bit of bulk, in just the right amount.
I feel like this device was made with the intention of sticking it in this case.
...And putting it in the holster, makes like the completion of armor for the device, what with the hard plastic shell shielding the screen from harm.
Seriously thinking about cutting the belt clip off and just leaving the smooth armor shell piece to pop on and slide the device into my pocket with. Seems like the perfect tweak to make it just right.
I feel likw even after only having it for a few hours that my future devices will take into account whether or not I can get one of these for it.
Okay - the drawback to having a screen big enough to actually use a soft keyboard on is the denial of one handed use.
No matter how I hold it, I just can't manage the device with one hand.
Now that I have the otterbox on it, i've been willing to try shifting my grip one handed during use, but really doesn't help much.
My other device is much smaller and I can use the whole screen comfortably with one thumb.
This one, not so much. If I have to reach across the screen, my palm will hit something before my thumb can get there.
I do think the benefits of the larger screen on my eyes and the actual enjoyment of the device far outweighs this inconvenience - but it does bug me.
Blue6IX said:
Okay - the drawback to having a screen big enough to actually use a soft keyboard on is the denial of one handed use.
No matter how I hold it, I just can't manage the device with one hand.
Now that I have the otterbox on it, i've been willing to try shifting my grip one handed during use, but really doesn't help much.
My other device is much smaller and I can use the whole screen comfortably with one thumb.
This one, not so much. If I have to reach across the screen, my palm will hit something before my thumb can get there.
I do think the benefits of the larger screen on my eyes and the actual enjoyment of the device far outweighs this inconvenience - but it does bug me.
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You may like this then Again you may not. But hope it helps. http://flygrip.com/
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You may like this then Again you may not. But hope it helps. http://flygrip.com/
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You know, I had seen that before but it wasn't something I could really use with my other devices.
I may have to give it another look, given that this SGSIII is about what that thing was designed for.
Thanks for reminding me of something I had written off long ago.
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You may like this then Again you may not. But hope it helps. http://flygrip.com/
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That is actually pretty damn cool.I just wonder if it would annoy me for my phone to not sit flat on its back.
Edit: Oh wow. $30 for a little piece of plastic. Eek. I don't think i could live with myself if I spent that much on this.
I wonder how much that flygrip thing hinders getting it in/out of a pocket??
When you do get around to trying ROMs let me suggest the Synergy ROM. It is actively developed, offers all the good of Samsung's skin along with most of the great tweaks that make rooting so worth while. Moving from the DX to this phone has been great largely in part to this ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792499
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azumandias said:
When you do get around to trying ROMs let me suggest the Synergy ROM. It is actively developed, offers all the good of Samsung's skin along with most of the great tweaks that make rooting so worth while. Moving from the DX to this phone has been great largely in part to this ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792499
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Appreciate the heads up. Today is the last day of return without penalty, think i'm gonna keep it.
Right now It's just rooted, awesome quick guide here somewhere and I was able to bang it out in a few minutes while I was packing my truck to hit the road again for work.
When I get the chance, i'll pop a custom recovery in to block ota's - but right now exploring touchwiz and deciding what I do and don't like.
One thing bugging me is the device never seeming to be able to resume playing music after a call without having to mess with it... no matter what player I use.
No slight against the devs who put so much of themselves into the great works they've made for this device, but most likely I won't sample the roms available and just craft my own. I'll never get what I want unless I build it myself.
Thinking this time i'll just build from source instead of hacking apart a manufacturers version of Android.
Most likely i'll wait until i've got what I want or very near to before playing with other devs works. In large part to keep myself from being influenced by the directions they've taken.
I still haven't recovered all the files I hosted before goo went down, so getting all my works back up and available from my other device is taking up the time I can allocate to dev at the moment.
My laptop is on it's last legs, so until I can replace it ( not long now! ) can't get any real dev done anyway. Just small stuff. Can't keep it cool enough to compile a kernel even sitting on a hotel A/C vent to make it through the whole compile process of a gingerbread kernel without overheating and crashing...ICS is beyond the capabilities of my available hardware at the moment unfortunately.
Work is keeping me mad busy travelling the country ( USA) but i'm starting to have little bits of free time here and there around the constant exhaustion.
Pretty soon I should not only have the physical ability to stay awake long enough to learn something, but also the necessary hardware to do the learning on.
Meantime, it's ten or fifteen minutes of research here and there trying to familiarize myself with the device and the ICS source on my laptop for as long as I can keep it from overheating and shutting off.
It's okay, though, there's a lot to catch up on without needing to dive in and do for me at this point anyway, so the lack of acceptable hardware is more of an annoyance then a hindrance.
I figure i'll just keep adding random notes and observations to this thread to look back on later.
Comments, criticisms and suggestions most welcome from all of you out there!
How did you "thank" your own posts?
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How did you "thank" your own posts?
Sent from a strange blue box hurtling through time and space.
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I have no clue, it's showing I thanked both mine and yours, but I hadn't even seen yours yet and it already showed thanks for it?
Okay - palm swipe for screenshot is virtually impossible with the raised edges of the otterbox defender around the screen.
Might also be my not having cut out the otterbox screen protector yet, so has two on it and touches suck sometimes.
Well, just threw cwm on it, to block the ota.
...and found picture in picture video vieqing - so cool. I'm watching a movie right now while typing his on he S3. That's foward pogress and leveraging multi-tasking capabilities.
Starting with Jelly Bean 4.2 Google unified there UI for both tablets and phones by using the Nexus 7 phablet UI for tablets, splitting the navbar and the notification area in two bars.
What's your opinion on this? I think the usability is way worse without having any payoff what's so ever. Not only does the new UI waste allot more screen realestate, it is also less ergonomic. Since Google aligned the navbar buttons at the center, it is virtually impossible to reach the home button with your thumb in landscape and it is still harder than before in portrait orientation, especially on bigger tablets.
I really hope Samsung and other OEM as well as custom rom cooks just ignore this really dumb decision.
I like it a lot more. I mean it's better at least from a point of view of developers to have a unified interface.
Regarding the centered buttons, I think there will be a posibility to move them in the left. Personally I would like them to be in the left as well.
It seems awfully inefficient. I understand their motives but I'd prefer the older UI.
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Idc as long as its customizable, my tablet is an iPad anyways(actually i dont like it anymore)
A bit weird, but after all, everyone will get used...
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I like it a lot more. I mean it's better at least from a point of view of developers to have a unified interface.
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I thought about that and I actually fail to see it. The developers already need to support multiple screen sizes and resolutions, so there apps must be ppi independent anyway. So the can't develop for a fixed resolution no matter if there are one or two bars outside the application window. And other than that the app shouldn't care about UI-elements that are -again- outside of its window.
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Regarding the centered buttons, I think there will be a posibility to move them in the left. Personally I would like them to be in the left as well.
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There is none on the Nexus 7 (running 4.12) so I assume there will be none on other 4.2 devices. Also none of the bloggers who reviewed the new Nexus devices mentioned anything, nor where there any screenshots or videos about it.
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As the idiot that I be I accidentally clicked on "I like the new interface":silly:
IIRC the switching between "honeycomb ui" "normal/phone ui" and "nexus 7 ui" was done purely based on DPI and resolution (specifically width IIRC) reported by the system. And the fact is, with the extremely high resolution of the 10" tablet this would mean that they might have to completely change the way that switching works? I'm curious to know if there will still be a DPI for any device that is the boundary to switch into the honeycomb mode and that despite it's size the fact that it has such a high resolution means that it just goes into n7 mode per the calculation anyway...?
But either way, I think i'm starting to like the n7 mode for my nexus 7 at least, but I like the really low dpi of 160, so I am hoping that the above is not true and that they have completely removed "honeycomb style status bar"...it'll take some getting used to ofc, but I like it (sometimes)...
It is inefficient and uncomfy. I hope they get back to the previous UI.
I like the new Tablet UI. I don't like not being able to switch to landscape mode, though.
I think the idea of new notification bar is ok but need improvement (e.g. both menu down at same time)
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I like the new Tablet UI it is more interesting.
I like it a lot more
TheGoD said:
Starting with Jelly Bean 4.2 Google unified there UI for both tablets and phones by using the Nexus 7 phablet UI for tablets, splitting the navbar and the notification area in two bars.
What's your opinion on this? I think the usability is way worse without having any payoff what's so ever. Not only does the new UI waste allot more screen realestate, it is also less ergonomic. Since Google aligned the navbar buttons at the center, it is virtually impossible to reach the home button with your thumb in landscape and it is still harder than before in portrait orientation, especially on bigger tablets.
I really hope Samsung and other OEM as well as custom rom cooks just ignore this really dumb decision.
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i think its dumb. it is weird and im not use to it lol
cool, awesome, amazing, but I preffer the old one.
Over the last couple of years or so, Google and Microsoft seem to be heavily inspired by the design language usually seen in Apple products.
I find Apple UI quite cartoonish, and more suitable for products targeted at children. Android and Windows used to be have a very polished, executive and professional looking design language, and that unfortunately seems to be changing.
Have Apple designers moved to Google and Microsoft? Or are courses in designing now being heavily inspired by what Apple designers are doing? Neither of these is good news.
Function follows form. You know: It's easier that way to sell crap to dumb people.
On my FP3 I got with LOS19 those oversized buttons as well: 70% empty space and so, since the text cannot fit, it's scrolling now:
Splendid!
Totally reminds me of something from Douglas Adams:
CHAIRMAN:
Listen! I would like to call to order the five-hundred-and-seventy-third meeting of the colonization committee of the planet of Fintlewoodlewix. And furthermore -
FORD:
Oh this is futile! Five-hundred-and-seventy-three committee meetings and you haven’t even discovered fire yet!
MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT:
If you would care to look at the agenda sheet -
GUY:
Agenda rock, yes…
FORD:
Oh, go on back home or something will ya?
MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT:
…you will see that we are about to have a report from the hairdressers fire development subcommittee today.
HAIRDRESSER:
That’s me.
FORD:
Yeah well you know what they’ve done don’t you? You gave them a couple of sticks and they’ve gone and developed them in to a pair of bloody scissors!
MARKETING GIRL:
When you have been in marketing as long as I have, you’ll know that before any new product can be developed, it has to be properly researched. I mean yes, yes we’ve got to find out what people want from fire, I mean how do they relate to it, the image
FORD:
Oh, stick it up your nose.
MARKETING GIRL:
Yes which is precisely the sort of thing we need to know, I mean do people want fire that can be fitted nasally.
CHAIRMAN:
Yes, and, and, and the wheel. What about this wheel thingy? Sounds a terribly interesting project to me.
MARKETING GIRL:
Er, yeah, well we’re having a little, er, difficulty here…
FORD:
Difficulty?! It’s the single simplest machine in the entire universe!
MARKETING GIRL:
Well alright mister wise guy, if you’re so clever you tell us what colour it should be!
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This trend is just heart wrenching but unfortunately this is not the only malaise but just one tip of the iceberg and I am ready to move away from android completely, if there was just a an alternative proper.
Librephone would be okay but 1300$ for 720p???
Actually, I do regret that I didn't back the ubuntuphone back then... would have still been ubuntu but at least an alternative.
Perhaps I get myself a cheap phone for testing postmarketOS finally...
PS: Sry for this long posting
What gets me in the invasive nature of animations.
Every freaking thing has to be animated.
Do we all have the attention span of a 3 year-old now?
My latest phone (stock, unlocked) Moto G Power had animated text filling the StatusBar when you switched to less than full screen.
I turned off the animation on that but it still insists on fading in.
SigmundDroid said:
Function follows form. You know: It's easier that way to sell crap to dumb people.
On my FP3 I got with LOS19 those oversized buttons as well: 70% empty space and so, since the text cannot fit, it's scrolling now:
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Splendid!
Totally reminds me of something from Douglas Adams:
This trend is just heart wrenching but unfortunately this is not the only malaise but just one tip of the iceberg and I am ready to move away from android completely, if there was just a an alternative proper.
Librephone would be okay but 1300$ for 720p???
Actually, I do regret that I didn't back the ubuntuphone back then... would have still been ubuntu but at least an alternative.
Perhaps I get myself a cheap phone for testing postmarketOS finally...
PS: Sry for this long posting
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This is how it looks in Nothing phone (see attachment). While the new Quick Settings is a new design after a long time, I wish they made the sizes customisable.
I also wish that there is an end to this duopoly in smartphone OS. Microsoft unfortunately ended their Windows Phone OS. Not sure where Harmony OS stands. But there must be 1 or more alternatives to Android and iOS.
The heavily privacy oriented Black Phone failed. Shows people don't really care about the amount of data being collected, and how the same would be used against them going forward. While lack of awareness is understandable, it is unfortunate that a majority of people who are aware of this just brush it aside as 'tinfoil hat' category.
SigmundDroid said:
Function follows form. You know: It's easier that way to sell crap to dumb people.
On my FP3 I got with LOS19 those oversized buttons as well: 70% empty space and so, since the text cannot fit, it's scrolling now:
View attachment 5857685
Splendid!
Totally reminds me of something from Douglas Adams:
This trend is just heart wrenching but unfortunately this is not the only malaise but just one tip of the iceberg and I am ready to move away from android completely, if there was just a an alternative proper.
Librephone would be okay but 1300$ for 720p???
Actually, I do regret that I didn't back the ubuntuphone back then... would have still been ubuntu but at least an alternative.
Perhaps I get myself a cheap phone for testing postmarketOS finally...
PS: Sry for this long posting
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Both Samsung and Google Android died about 3-4 years ago. At least that's when the rot started to set in. Two stock N10+'s running on 9 and 10 with no suitable replacement in sight.
N975U/Pie
I hadn't really noticed, but my devices are all on Oreo or Q (Quik?) I see no need to upgrade an OS every 18 months. Routine stuff like security fixes and bug fixes, yeah, but requiring me to install a completely new OS that often is insane.
My new phone is going to be shipped with Pie. Pie does what I need it to. I may be ae to update it to Q just for consistency, if not, no loss. It's an RFinder B1+, based on a MediaTek chipset. It's also the only device I've found that can be rooted but has no discussion on here.
shadow460 said:
I hadn't really noticed, but my devices are all on Oreo or Q (Quik?) I see no need to upgrade an OS every 18 months. Routine stuff like security fixes and bug fixes, yeah, but requiring me to install a completely new OS that often is insane.
My new phone is going to be shipped with Pie. Pie does what I need it to. I may be ae to update it to Q just for consistency, if not, no loss. It's an RFinder B1+, based on a MediaTek chipset. It's also the only device I've found that can be rooted but has no discussion on here.
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Pie is reasonably secure unless you do stupid things; no upgrade or updates needed. I prefer Pie over 10; easier to troubleshoot and package disable.
SigmundDroid said:
Function follows form. You know: It's easier that way to sell crap to dumb people.
On my FP3 I got with LOS19 those oversized buttons as well: 70% empty space and so, since the text cannot fit, it's scrolling now:
View attachment 5857685
Splendid!
Totally reminds me of something from Douglas Adams:
This trend is just heart wrenching but unfortunately this is not the only malaise but just one tip of the iceberg and I am ready to move away from android completely, if there was just a an alternative proper.
Librephone would be okay but 1300$ for 720p???
Actually, I do regret that I didn't back the ubuntuphone back then... would have still been ubuntu but at least an alternative.
Perhaps I get myself a cheap phone for testing postmarketOS finally...
PS: Sry for this long posting
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I have the Librem 5, and yeah, it's not worth the price right now . Currently I'm working on creating a Linux Smartphone (wanna-be) Sub-forum. It's located here.