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In the development section everyone keeps saying one click root will not happen on the inspire i was just wandering what the reason for that is i know there is one for other phones ive had just wandering why this one is different
HTC closed the bug in the radio firmware that allowed the security on the nand to be unlocked. This is why you use a goldcard to flash a rootable Rom to the phone. Once you do that you can root with a one click like visionary.
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That may be a deal breaker for me! I can't take a chance breaking my phone. If I can't root, i may need to look at another phone that will let me easily.
mj0528 said:
That may be a deal breaker for me! I can't take a chance breaking my phone. If I can't root, i may need to look at another phone that will let me easily.
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It's not hard to do. What do you need root for?
That's the whole fun of a new device. It's not that hard to root this phone.
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It's not hard to do. What do you need root for?
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Wifi tethering and getting better battery life, not to mention removing all the AT&T BS and most of all to play with a truley free device!
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Wifi tethering and getting better battery life, not to mention removing all the AT&T BS and most of all to play with a truley free device!
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As others have said, it's not hard if you're willing to dedicate a small amount of time and can follow directions.
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As others have said, it's not hard if you're willing to dedicate a small amount of time and can follow directions.
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literally 30 minutes to at most an hour of your time. Using a "one-click" method is just running scripts for you, rather than you doing the dirty work yourself. grab a beer and have at it!
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literally 30 minutes to at most an hour of your time. Using a "one-click" method is just running scripts for you, rather than you doing the dirty work yourself. grab a beer and have at it!
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just being lazy previously, reading up on it now. Can't seem to find •HTC Inspire 4G Hack Kit v3 update as everywhere I have looked, it won't start the DL.
Why dont the one click root programs work for this phone? I'm going to use the hack kit, but I thought id ask the redundant question.
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Why dont the one click root programs work for this phone? I'm going to use the hack kit, but I thought id ask the redundant question.
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This question belongs in the general section
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I would also like to know this. I just got an Inspire yesterday, moving over from a Dell Streak, so i'm doing the research on getting Rooted so i can throw some ROM's on this thing.
With the Streak i never had to deal with eng & radio s-off stuff and this whole Gold Card thing is a little odd too. I'm supposing its because of the different MFG's.
Thanks in advance to anyone offering their wisdom to this thread.
and the research continues...
Bubbys gui version of the hack kit worked fine for me.
Tx Redneck said:
Bubbys gui version of the hack kit worked fine for me.
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can u share a link for that? i HATE using the terminal
Mainly because you have to downgrade the rom and radio. That is the simple answer.
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Bubbys gui version of the hack kit worked fine for me.
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I get my inspire in tomorrow and a link would be great also!
Here is the link to the gui Bubby GUI
More then likely you will end up with a cwm black screen, if/when you do go here.
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Here is the link to the gui Bubby GUI
More then likely you will end up with a cwm black screen, if/when you do go here.
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does the rc2 has a gui? because 90% of the rc1 was based on just typing commands, thats what i saw in the youtube video at least
There is no absolute, fool-proof, One Click, rooting method for the Inspire.
Do some research, take notes, watch the videos and do whichever you feel most comfortable with.
People have had success with both versions (Simple One Click and Hack Kit)
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does the rc2 has a gui? because 90% of the rc1 was based on just typing commands, thats what i saw in the youtube video at least
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As said above there is no fool proof way. If I recall correctly the GUI uses almost the same method as the hack kit except it does most of the commands for you. They both use the same exploit they both downgrade the rom and radio to root and s-off. The major problem that people run into is that the recovery screen is black. There are work arounds for it, which are in the link I posted above.
so there is a chance that the one click root MIGHT work for this? I've read up on the hack kit, while it sounds complex, it appears very simple...
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so there is a chance that the one click root MIGHT work for this? I've read up on the hack kit, while it sounds complex, it appears very simple...
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No chance, Nope, nada, zilch
Use the hack kit or the gui, like you said, not that difficult.
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I used the One Click method, in conjunction with the very fine video that accompanies it. Watch the video a couple of times, and then follow it step by step when starting the process, and you'll be fine. Although I did run into the CW black screen problem, it was an easy fix.
This thread is totally in the wrong place. Not to flame but come on. This is all over general and can be found inside of 5 min. I just read a great article about not being a fan of one click rooting. The editor had this opinion because there are all kinds of people out their rooting their phones that have no business doing so and when, and chances are good that it will happen, they brick their phones running back to their carrier for them to fix their mistakes because they don't want to do any research on their own. This in turn is leading carriers to locking down their phones with locked bootloaders and trying to figure out ways to identify root users to suspend their service. I totally agree with this article and while I encourage noobs to learn and root their phones, it requires a lot of reading and some people are just not up for it.
OK that's the end of my rant.
Please do the research and become a contributing member of xda so we can all benefit from each other and keep striving for a better android experience.
Moved to proper forum.
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This thread is totally in the wrong place. Not to flame but come on. This is all over general and can be found inside of 5 min. I just read a great article about not being a fan of one click rooting. The editor had this opinion because there are all kinds of people out their rooting their phones that have no business doing so and when, and chances are good that it will happen, they brick their phones running back to their carrier for them to fix their mistakes because they don't want to do any research on their own. This in turn is leading carriers to locking down their phones with locked bootloaders and trying to figure out ways to identify root users to suspend their service. I totally agree with this article and while I encourage noobs to learn and root their phones, it requires a lot of reading and some people are just not up for it.
OK that's the end of my rant.
Please do the research and become a contributing member of xda so we can all benefit from each other and keep striving for a better android experience.
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Agreed...I couldn't have said it any better.
It's not hard to root, the hardest part is following a bunch of half ass guides because people that write them expect you to know everything.
I ended up having to make my own rooting guide back when the N1 came out because I had to compile 4-5 different guides just to get all the information needed.
I can't speak for the rooting guide for the Inspire since my phone doesn't come in until tomorrow.. but we shall see
Question from a newbert
hello all,
recent convert from the atrix to inspire...had a question based on the S-off vs ENG S-off...what's the difference?
if I do this in the proper steps then will I be fully rooted, S-off, ENG s-off?
1) Bubby - HTC Inspire 4G Simple Root and S-OFF
2) jkolojo - One click ENG S-OFF
3) then flash radio? which one is better?
Radio_12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M - (HTC Ace Gingerbread S Generic 2.16.0.0)
12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M - (HTC Ace Gingerbread S Generic 2.25.0.0)
Is clockworkmod included in the Bubby root?
After that is fully installed, can I flash any ROM I want?
Thanks, really appreciated!
Also what's the difference between all the different rooting methods?
I know SuperOneClick for Atrix made a mess. Which one do you guys recommend for a beginner?
Ace Kit
attn1 root
bubby root
Think we will get an update for it? Maybe the upcoming gingerbread upgrade will have it
http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/andro...-allow-non-market-apps-on-android/#more-14514
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Who needs an update I have side loading.
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Who needs an update I have side loading.
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We here at XDA are a minority among Android users. And not everyone wants root.
Yeah but come on so many benefits to rooting why not you know??
True but in my case I have not rooted because of the process. I do not want to redo all my settings and data and such....I am sure I am not the only one
I totally would but, its kinda tough to do that with a mac
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Think we will get an update for it? Maybe the upcoming gingerbread upgrade will have it
http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/andro...-allow-non-market-apps-on-android/#more-14514
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I hope we do I have not rooted yet seems to complicated all these roms folks seem to have do a lot to get them to work right
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We here at XDA are a minority among Android users. And not everyone wants root.
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Well then good luck with that. Personally anyone who buys a phone that's missing a feature , especially one that's mostly used for nefarious purposes really should learn to read before buying. Then again one would think; all it takes to have root is said reading and therein lies the cusp.
Wouldn't be a problem if say the rooting process was like the hero or evo hell even my former samsung epic. No data loss
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Well then good luck with that. Personally anyone who buys a phone that's missing a feature , especially one that's mostly used for nefarious purposes really should learn to read before buying. Then again one would think; all it takes to have root is said reading and therein lies the cusp.
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Well then good luck with that. Personally anyone who buys a phone that's missing a feature , especially one that's mostly used for nefarious purposes really should learn to read before buying. Then again one would think; all it takes to have root is said reading and therein lies the cusp.
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This means don't buy any AT&T branded device. Hopefully sideloading happens with the Inspire. With hsupa now enabled and with this, I would lose more reason to root. Although getting rid of the bloat would be nice. I just wish we could root stock without having to downgrade.
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If your phone is Stock rooted, you can always edit the settings.db file and enable side loading feature. I did it and works like a charm. I didn't want to take a chance with a custom ROM, so I updated the stock ROM with the latest HTC update and the rooted it with gingerbreak. So far so good.
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True but in my case I have not rooted because of the process. I do not want to redo all my settings and data and such....I am sure I am not the only one
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try using titanium back up, that helps out alot, if u really don't wanna waste the 15min it takes to reset up ur phone, or just root it b4 setting it up, right after you buy it. sure, some rom updates will require a full wipe but its always for the better, there's just too many benefits to rooting not to want to do it. removing bloatware, ability to sideload, tethering, being able to run any of the many roms out there and the list goes on and on and on.
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there's just too many benefits to rooting not to want to do it. removing bloatware, ability to sideload, tethering, being able to run any of the many roms out there and the list goes on and on and on.
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+1. If you're on AT&T, and have an Android phone, you are going to be missing out on all your phone could be. Even if you hack the living daylights out of a stock ROM, it won't compare to any ROM floating around here. It's not nearly as hard/bad as people think.
CM7 Inspire 4G
Gingerbreak worked for you?
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If your phone is Stock rooted, you can always edit the settings.db file and enable side loading feature. I did it and works like a charm. I didn't want to take a chance with a custom ROM, so I updated the stock ROM with the latest HTC update and the rooted it with gingerbreak. So far so good.
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I have side loading without root. In fact, my Inspire is totally stock. And I've been able to side load apps from the beginning. That's one reason I don't understand this AT&T side loading business.
With sideload wonder machine?
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With sideload wonder machine?
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yea, you can sideload manually from the computer with out root, you just can't sideload directly from your devise. just make sure you have the latest drivers from HTC
Yea I currently use that
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yea, you can sideload manually from the computer with out root, you just can't sideload directly from your devise. just make sure you have the latest drivers from HTC
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I sideload right on my Inspire. I have the apks on my card and choose them with any file explorer and install them. I can even install apps that require root to function. Those particular apps will install, but they won't work without root. But all apps that don't require root to function install and work just fine.
It figures... right after rooting. I like root though. I'm a control freak and I like to determine what is on my phone. Deleted all of ATTs bloarware and just darn well like playing with ROMS. I was a Linux distro sampler too for a while before settling on Fedora.
Sorry for question but all I know I can do but after purchasing our TF family members who are really arent' that savvy are wanting theirs rooted etc. Is there a way of rooting that is for like office people with no IT knowledge or troubleshooting because I can reference them to the thread instead of being on the phone for an extra 2hrs trying to explain to them. Thanks sorry for this post but we are a community so any help would be appreciated.
NVFLash method, just have them watch the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMHXeYMgPy4&feature=player_embedded
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Sorry for question but all I know I can do but after purchasing our TF family members who are really arent' that savvy are wanting theirs rooted etc. Is there a way of rooting that is for like office people with no IT knowledge or troubleshooting because I can reference them to the thread instead of being on the phone for an extra 2hrs trying to explain to them. Thanks sorry for this post but we are a community so any help would be appreciated.
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Why would you want to root if you aren't comfortable making regular changes to the UI/OS. What is the stock system not doing that they need?
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Why would you want to root if you aren't comfortable making regular changes to the UI/OS. What is the stock system not doing that they need?
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Its not for me I am going to root mine do to do a custom rom of some cert ORD, and would like to have my Netflix on it without having to be at home and go through playon, I have but family members that like being able to adjust other things and say it is rooted to their friends and such not for anything else I am sure.
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Its not for me I am going to root mine do to do a custom rom of some cert ORD, and would like to have my Netflix on it without having to be at home and go through playon, I have but family members that like being able to adjust other things and say it is rooted to their friends and such not for anything else I am sure.
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Rooting is not something people should do without fully understanding what they are doing. There are potentially serious downsides to rooting (invalidates warranty, "bricked" unit on OTAs, etc) that one needs to understand and plan for. I would never root a device for a casual user that doesn't understand what they are getting into just to run an app or say that they are rooted.
MMmm, yeah, I wish there was an easy way to watch NetFlix without rooting (or doing some streaming to your other device).
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Rooting is not something people should do without fully understanding what they are doing. There are potentially serious downsides to rooting (invalidates warranty, "bricked" unit on OTAs, etc) that one needs to understand and plan for. I would never root a device for a casual user that doesn't understand what they are getting into just to run an app or say that they are rooted.
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I understand what your saying but in my experience I haven't been able to brick my devices yet, not saying they can't be but I put in all the necessary or recommended precautionary items to prevent that from happening. Hopefully after I do mine I will do the same testing for them to verify.
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I understand what your saying but in my experience I haven't been able to brick my devices yet, not saying they can't be but I put in all the necessary or recommended precautionary items to prevent that from happening. Hopefully after I do mine I will do the same testing for them to verify.
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I don't think rooting is a big deal if one understands the tradeoffs and restrictions as well as the advantages. But, I read the OP to be describing rooting for people that wanted to run a speciific app, and, unlike yourself, were not spending time on xda to develop an understanding of the tradeoffs.
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Hi
I got mine yesterday and nvFlashed in a few minutes.
Look at the video and follow the instructions correctly.
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Rooting is not something people should do without fully understanding what they are doing. There are potentially serious downsides to rooting (invalidates warranty, "bricked" unit on OTAs, etc) that one needs to understand and plan for. I would never root a device for a casual user that doesn't understand what they are getting into just to run an app or say that they are rooted.
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You saying rooting the TF will 100% cause it to brick on the next OTA update ?
finally had time to root mine
Thanks for reference to the video, I am now about to read on how to flash roms. I know on my nook color I used my micro sd (lol tried to use the same one and put prime 1.7 didn't TF didn't see it). Hopefully after some reading and understanding I will have some new goodness on my TF P.S Family member rooted and was happy as well.
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NVFLash method, just have them watch the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMHXeYMgPy4&feature=player_embedded
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I assume this method works for all versions including 3.2 and I can use the latest prime rom?
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I assume this method works for all versions including 3.2 and I can use the latest prime rom?
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not sure I didn't use the latest I just did as the video states I am doing some reading to try and figure it out, I actually like my icon in 3.1 better than 3.2 when using the mouse option with the keyboard.
Shoudl I root??? I want to but I'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day I got this phone I've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my One S and have had no issues, but now I want to move to T-Mobiles unlimited plan but I still want tethering and from what I understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?
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shoudl i root??? I want to but i'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day i got this phone i've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my one s and have had no issues, but now i want to move to t-mobiles unlimited plan but i still want tethering and from what i understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?
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whoa guys, not all at once!!!
No.
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Absolutely not.
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No.
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Even if that wasn't sincere, thanks for saying something haha
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No.
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Absolutely not.
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Ok ok I'm gathering that I should NOT root but what is the reason behind the answer?
Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.
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Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.
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Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.
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Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.
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Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?
You say rooting has issues? I am rooted and have no issues at all.
The only risk you partake is that you may void your warranty for unlocking the bootloader.
Rooting is nothing but super user. It could set there and do nothing just like unrooted.
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Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?
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Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.
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Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.
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To clarify, you don't lose the sense camera by rooting! You lose the sense camera by installing a Rom that is not sense based: any aosp rom like cyanogen mod. Any Rom that is based on sense like viper, or trick droid, you will have a fully functioning sense camera.
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To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--
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To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--
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Thank you very much for your input, I appreciate it. I agree with everything you said especially the part about the phone being able to stand on its own, I've had it for months and its great. I will be making my decision by the end of the night haha. (Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--
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Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--
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That's what I thought about this one, but every time my finger accidentally hit some idiotic bloat app or I couldn't launch a YouTube link with the app, it pissed me off. With the exception of the iPhone, all modern smartphones really need to be rooted to pry the carrier's fingers out of the deep crevices of your $600 pocket computer.
yes, excellent points on the bloat. that's why odds are I would still root for the features I mentioned above and maybe skip the continuous flashing of custom roms--
however, with more memory and speed coming the bloat may not be a factor. and, I think we can kinda freeze some of these apps now. haven't paid much attention to that feature as I rooted same day i got phone--
I waited a few weeks, then waited a few more weeks after rooting and debloating, but the allure of CM was too strong. I just cant stand the disjointed look of Sense.
CM10 is running pretty good--flashing nightlies
Guess we're getting of topic, or may entice OP to root--