Not getting SMS with data off? - Thunderbolt General

Maybe someone can help me...
I'm running Thundershed 1.6 and using the stock messaging app. I've also been using Llama for awhile now and have been playing around with actions to turn off data (similar to JuiceDefender). I have it set so that Llama waits 1 minute after my screen turns off and then turns off data. When the screen turns on, mobile data is turned back on.
What I am noticing (don't know when this started) is that I do not get regular, standard SMS messages when the screen is off. As soon as I turn the screen on... I get the message. I was under the impression that SMS had nothing to do with my mobile data. What is JD doing differently that allowed me to get my texts when screen was off?

MMS messages are retrieved via mobile data. SMS messages use cell towers. As long as you don't have it set up to turn off cell reception and the other person is sending it as an SMS, you should still receive your texts. I've noticed that sometimes iPhone users texts come through as an MMS even if there's no picture.

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No email in Standby (FIXED)

I received my Touch Pro yesterday...
i had so many HTCs, but this one is the first to show this problem.
When in standby (screen off) i cannot receive emails. When
I turn it back on, all the emails are coming in, which is annoying,
considering that i might not be aware of important emails for hours.
Any ideas how to solve that???
Thanks
UPDATE : If someone else has this problem, just set your 3G/GPRS connection "HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\[GUID]\Connections\[Connection Name]\Always on" to 1.
aquasesh said:
I received my Touch Pro yesterday...
i had so many HTCs, but this one is the first to show this problem.
When in standby (screen off) i cannot receive emails. When
I turn it back on, all the emails are coming in, which is annoying,
considering that i might not be aware of important emails for hours.
Any ideas how to solve that???
Thanks
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How do you receive your emails? push mail or just polling from the server?
aquasesh said:
I received my Touch Pro yesterday...
i had so many HTCs, but this one is the first to show this problem.
When in standby (screen off) i cannot receive emails. When
I turn it back on, all the emails are coming in, which is annoying,
considering that i might not be aware of important emails for hours.
Any ideas how to solve that???
Thanks
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Same here, happens to POP3 and RSS feeds too. Data connecton is always on so that's not the prroblem.
Any kind of email service...and MMS as well...
now i am pretty sure, MMS should always push through
I half suspect touch pro 'tries' to download messages while 'asleep' and just keeps trying and trying using battery power along the way. I'm shocked how quickly my battery is going down on this device.
johnk1973 said:
I half suspect touch pro 'tries' to download messages while 'asleep' and just keeps trying and trying using battery power along the way. I'm shocked how quickly my battery is going down on this device.
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yes, this behaviour is very suspect. On my Tytn and Shift, everything seems alright. No problem receiving mail and MMS while sleeping.
The biggest problem is, it doesnt notify me of an incoming message, simply because, there is no message incoming while asleep.
I will try to see if there is anything in the registry about this.
I still have no luck.
When the Touch Pro is in stand by, it wont retreive any MMS or emails.
No matter what I try. I sent so many test mails from the web and other phones...
i always have to turn the phone back on to receive the mails
aquasesh said:
I still have no luck.
When the Touch Pro is in stand by, it wont retreive any MMS or emails.
No matter what I try. I sent so many test mails from the web and other phones...
i always have to turn the phone back on to receive the mails
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It is because the Touch Pro shuts down the wifi connection in standby mode, and when you turn the phone back on, it reconnects to the acces point. This is what we should prevent, I mean the suspending of wifi connection.
odd, I have push email and mine receives email al the time..on or in stand-by mode.
I do remember a setting where it allowed me to set the hours for receiving email..but I can't find it now at all!!
twisted-pixel said:
odd, I have push email and mine receives email al the time..on or in stand-by mode.
I do remember a setting where it allowed me to set the hours for receiving email..but I can't find it now at all!!
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It doesn't depend on push-mail, or imaps, or etc.... It depends on your connection settings. So if you have a phone connection (eg. gprs, edge, 3g, h....) than it'll receive emails because in standby mode it does not shutdown the phone(gsm, wcdma), only the wifi connection. So if you turn off your phone(gsm, wcdma), and set a wifi connection up, I'm pretty sure that it won't receive your mails in standby mode.
mydexterid said:
It doesn't depend on push-mail, or imaps, or etc.... It depends on your connection settings. So if you have a phone connection (eg. gprs, edge, 3g, h....) than it'll receive emails because in standby mode it does not shutdown the phone(gsm, wcdma), only the wifi connection. So if you turn off your phone(gsm, wcdma), and set a wifi connection up, I'm pretty sure that it won't receive your mails in standby mode.
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But it doesnt do that in my case. I wont receive anything until i turn it back on manually. Even 3G.
It should receive my MMS constantly, same as my Hermes and my SHift.

Is receiving emails while in stand-by possible?

I've noticed my TP doesn't receive emails when the phone is in stand-by, even if an automatic send/receive schedule is set. This makes it completely useless to me. I mean, what's the point of automatic send/receive schedule, if the phone will be in stand-by 90 % of the time (or for 2 hours straight)? Is there any way to get notifications of new emails even if the phone is in stand-by?
Thanks
Mine works
U have send and receive every 5 mns
Strange, it does work for me (on a POP account with auto send/receive every hour). E-mails come in at night, for instance. They just don't make the phone come out of standby or turn on the screen, but the white LEDs around the centre button provide a visual notification.
You could edit the notifications (settings -> sounds and notifications -> second tab -> new e-mail) for a more persuasive signal (vibration).
Are you referring to cellulair download or WiFi download? Remember that WiFi is disabled upon entering standby, unless otherwise configured using Advanced Configuration Editor. For cellulair download the right network connection must be selected if WiFi was used before. Are you able to receive emails on the proper automatic schedule if you don't put / allow the device to go into standby?
hotmail also works fine with the setting - update when message received (options set in windows live). In fact hotmail acts as a very good push service for those of you that want delivery of email as it arrives.
Hmm, thats odd. I have two IMAP accounts, and neither update when the device is in stand-by. I'm using 3G data connection to update. I sent myself an email, put the device to stand-by, and waited. Send/receive was scheduled for every 5 mins. After absolutely no activity in about ten minutes, I woke the phone. A little after that I get a sound & popup notifications of a new email. Also, the LED around the centre button start to flash. If I don't allow the phone to enter stand-by, it receives new messages as it should.
Well, at least it should work. I was afraid there for a while that this was a feature rather than a bug. Hopefully it'll get fixed with a ROM update at the latest. I'm using standard 1.90.401.1 WWE at the moment.
this was a problem we had with the kaiser....hopefully we dont have the same problem here...
Well, this is interesting. I turned off HSDPA/HSUPA (I have an upper limit of 384 kbps anyway), and enabled automatic send/receive when roaming. After this the auto s/r works also in stand-by. Good enough for me!
Hm hey guys,
I'm facing the same problem with my Raphael.
I get my emails forwared via MMS from O2 Germany. Problem that I just realized now, I only get them when I turn my phone on.
So if someone sends me an email at night, I get the MMS with it in the morning when my alarm turns on. Isn't too bad but still a little annoying - what can I do?

[Q] App to send txts over data+offline notifications

Hi all, I've been looking for an app that lets me send texts over data to someone's phone, but will notify me when I regain a data connection of a message received when data/wifi is off. For example, AIM mobile let's me text other's phones over a data connection, but if data is disabled when i receive a message, that message is lost, as I will not get a notification when my data connection turns on. I lose my data connection periodically throughout the day, and I only have a limited amount of texts for messaging to phones outside verizon. Does anyone know of an app which has the "offline messages" feature? thanks in advance!!

Messaging hub - constant delay/disconnect?

Whenever i start using MSN chat or Facebook chat on the messaging hub using wifi, i will only be receiving chat messages for the first 5 minutes. After that, no more messages come through.
I know my wifi is on because its connected to the power supply, even if i set the locked screen to never, i can never get a constant flow of chat messages after a few minutes. The only way to start receiving again is by switching off/on wifi...
I know im not receiving anymore messages because i have my computer MSN logged in (and it is receiving messages still but no on phone side)
I know im connected to the internet still when i stopped receiving messages (because i go into IE to see if it still works)
...SO WTF??????
(ps. i seem to be getting the same trouble with 3G as well)
toothfish said:
Whenever i start using MSN chat or Facebook chat on the messaging hub using wifi, i will only be receiving chat messages for the first 5 minutes. After that, no more messages come through.
I know my wifi is on because its connected to the power supply, even if i set the locked screen to never, i can never get a constant flow of chat messages after a few minutes. The only way to start receiving again is by switching off/on wifi...
I know im not receiving anymore messages because i have my computer MSN logged in (and it is receiving messages still but no on phone side)
I know im connected to the internet still when i stopped receiving messages (because i go into IE to see if it still works)
...SO WTF??????
(ps. i seem to be getting the same trouble with 3G as well)
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What phone is this?What OS version?Please give us more details.

Nexus 5 Not Sending/Receiving MMS

Hey guys,
So I just got my Nexus 5 about a week ago, and love it so far. I immediately downloaded 8sms because it seems like Hangouts is still a work in progress.. Anyway, for some reason my phone will not auto-retrieve MMS messages. I've tried changing the MMSC values within the app and restarting it, but it hasn't helped.
I usually keep Mobile Data set to off, as I'm usually at school/work and both have secure WiFi.
My old HTC Desire HD was able to automatically turn data on momentarily to receive MMS, then shut off. This was a stock feature of the phone. Is this not the case with the Nexus 5? I don't want to have to go and turn on mobile data every time a MMS notification pops up; it just seems stupid to have to.
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!!
Turn mobile data on!
Sent from my Nexus 5
I guess it is a good thing to have but if every app could turn on data when they wanted and download anything then it would defeat the point of having data off. I agree with you though that in that situation it should automatically download.
With that said, some custom ROMs have this feature but it's not included in stock Android. When data is manually disabled by the user i'd expect it to stay off however for anything.
Does the automatically download mms feature not let the data turn on to download the message?
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dicecuber said:
Turn mobile data on!
Sent from my Nexus 5
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The problem is, I've tried just running around with mobile data on, and wifi on, but it still will not download the MMS messages. I have to manually turn off wifi, and then it will switch to data and download the MMS...
Try smart messenger or textra or Hangouts it could be a issue with the texting app
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
I might try going to my carrier to see if there's a solution. It seems silly that a 3 year old smartphone (my old HTC) had the ability to automatically turn on/off data for MMS, but not the Nexus..
Go to your T-mobile account find where you would select a phone and choose the Nexus 5. Wait a little and restart your phone and see if it works after an hour or 2.
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yogenfruz said:
I might try going to my carrier to see if there's a solution. It seems silly that a 3 year old smartphone (my old HTC) had the ability to automatically turn on/off data for MMS, but not the Nexus..
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Were you able to find a fix to this? My texts were completely fine for the first day or two I had it while i was on wifi. But just realized today that i might of been missing out on a day or twos worth of texts when my friend asked me why i didnt respond. So i turned off my wifi and i recieved alot of texts at once.
Im currently using the default hangouts app so im not sure whats causing this.. looks like i have to turn off wifi to get and send texts.
I also have this demand. My old HTC phone(Incredible S, flashed with CM rom) was able to automatically turn data on momentarily to receive MMS, then shut off. I haven't change the carrier. So, it's the 4.4 problem
Still no fix for this. I also noticed that if a MMS message is to be received, but mobile data on the N5 is off, 8sms will constantly try to fetch it, unsuccessfully... This causes a notable battery drain and even had 8sms as the top battery usage when checking battery stats. I guess in a way, it's a way to see if you have an MMS message incoming, but still... Really wish data would just auto on/off when the device detected a MMS incoming/outgoing.
yogenfruz said:
Still no fix for this. I also noticed that if a MMS message is to be received, but mobile data on the N5 is off, 8sms will constantly try to fetch it, unsuccessfully... This causes a notable battery drain and even had 8sms as the top battery usage when checking battery stats. I guess in a way, it's a way to see if you have an MMS message incoming, but still... Really wish data would just auto on/off when the device detected a MMS incoming/outgoing.
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I also use 8SMS. I don't know if this will solve your problem, but basically, the problem I had, was that if I were to send a text that was over 160 characters, the old messaging app on my S3, would automatically convert it to an MMS (which I think most phones do). For some reason, this was disabled in 8SMS.
The way to fix that, is to go into 8SMS settings, and find the option that says "Convert long sms to mms" and switch it to "1".
This worked for me, I had a slightly different problem then you are describing, but perhaps this could be a fix for you as well?
I hope that helps, if not, well, maybe it'll help someone else!
I use CM and the option to enable data to download MMS is not included yet. However i have no problem downloading MMS while connected to 3G. As long as your APN has MMS in the APN Types field it should automatically use that connection instead to get MMS.
I didn't have this issue on stock either (4.4) so maybe it's a carrier thing?
for me the problem is when I'm connected to a WiFi network the phone automatically turns off wifi to download the message and then never re-enables wifi turn it back on I understand that MMS must be downloaded through the carrier network but if I remember correctly it wasn't until recently that I wasn't able to have wifi and download message at the same time.
Nexus 5 Android 4.4.4, Tmobile: when at home my cellular has 1 bar (LTE). If wifi is connected, outgoing MMS does not succeed. I get notifications for incoming MMS, but it asks to "download" the message which fails. The moment I disconnect wifi in the same spot (literally without moving), MMS resumes working both for incoming and outgoing communications. Connecting wifi again causes it to fail.
I do remember a time that the phone was able to enable both connections at the same time to download an MMS and then subsequently keep everything else that I do on the phone through the wifi network.
The only thing I don't know for sure is whether it is a third party messenger problem for a phone problem carrier problem orAndroid bug
I also just realized that I bumped a very old post my apologies if I did not read enough to find a solution amongst other threads.
But any help would be great

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