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[Q] How is htc gonna put a full filesystem on 1 gb of internal memory?

One of the things that bug me about the sensation is the ridiculous amount of internal memory it has, i now we'll be using the sd card most of the time, but i cannot stop wondering how is htc gonna do to fit the whole filesystem on 1 gb of internal memory? i currently have an inspire 4g and even using a rom without the at&t bloatware i only have available 1.2 gb of the internal memory's 4 gb

I'm pretty sure the 1gb is just for apps. Then system stuff has its own partition, then some left over for user storage
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It has 4GB internal memory, of which 1gb can be accessed by the user

I'm pretty sure it has 1gb, the evo3d has 4.
For what I know there will be 550mb free, there should be a video showing it.
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TheGhost1233 said:
I'm pretty sure it has 1gb, the evo3d has 4.
For what I know there will be 550mb free, there should be a video showing it.
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The evo 3d has 1 gig of memory 3 inaccessible to the user. The g2 had the same so did the my touch 4g same as always with HTC. They always had 4 gig rom.
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Yes, but they also have 4gb rom on the spec sheet. Or 1.x gb accessible to user. The sensation only has 1gb rom according to specs.
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Yes, but they also have 4gb rom on the spec sheet. Or 1.x gb accessible to user. The sensation only has 1gb rom according to specs.
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I honestly doubt that HTC has 1 gig rom only alone since we actually have 1 gig accessible to the user. That already makes 2. The spec sheet is wrong on that aspect every one thought that g2 had 4 gigs of space but it only had 1 usable by us.
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You might be right but every phone on the htc site has the physical/ total memory on the spec sheet. For example the desire has 512mb accordion to spec, well that is not the free space accessible to the user. I highly doubt this is any different for the sensation.
Also a Dutch tech site wrote, after a hands on at mwc, that the free memory was 550mb with a total memory of 1gb.
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The g2 does have a 4gig internal chip same as the sensation. But because of the way the chip is set up and way files are stacked it basically is a 2gig but read and writes faster. So there is 2gig total basically but radio and system pretty leave roughly 1 gig. No big deal though.
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You can look here : http://www.htc.com/us/products/sensation4g-tmobile#tech-specs
It says : "768 MB RAM, 4 GB Internal Storage (1 GB user addressable)"
I think that 1 Go for apps (+ legal App 2 Sd) and the 8 Go microSD are widely enough.

harmine said:
You can look here : http://www.htc.com/us/products/sensation4g-tmobile#tech-specs
It says : "768 MB RAM, 4 GB Internal Storage (1 GB user addressable)"
I think that 1 Go for apps (+ legal App 2 Sd) and the 8 Go microSD are widely enough.
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Now that's more like it! , thanks!

Damn, moving from 16GB internal (Vibrant) to 1GB internal is going to be a pain, but I'll handle it.

Vodafone uk confirm 4gig & 1gig user.

Longcat14 said:
Damn, moving from 16GB internal (Vibrant) to 1GB internal is going to be a pain, but I'll handle it.
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But even the 16gb internal vibrant wasn't true app installable since it was 16 internal sdcard. Vibrant only truly used 2gb for apps.
That said, when I dropped my POS Vibrant for a G2, I was disappointed by only having 1.13gb internal for apps, but I've never gone above 500mb, that's roughly 170 apps which is nuts for a phone anyway. Lol, I'd rather have the 1gb of ram that everyone else its getting.
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Has this finally become "THE" phone?

All the negativity aside...
Has this phone become the perfect phone for everybody?
With Stock 2.3.3 working great with every feature, rooted stock roms, easy to flash any roms, has the g2x finally become the phone we always thought it would be?
There may be some people who always thought this was the best phone out but can we finally say it without a shadow of a doubt?
I may be biased but this is a pretty damn good phone.
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All it needs is 16-32gb internal storage and maybe 1gb of ram and it would have been future proof for a lonnnnnnnng time. Still it is a great phone just released too early.
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I agree on the ram part for sure....
I would have been set for a long time. The internal storage doesn't bother me so much with micro SD cards dropping in price. A 32GB card shouldn't be too expensive soon or now for that matter.
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Honestly I would have been ok too with the g2x had it not been for the partitioning of internal storage, it's confusing and not needed when most people already own 16 or 32gb external sdcards and prefer installing everything to internal.
For some people 1gb is more than enough for apps/games, but with the market allowing dev's to increase the size of its product 1gb of internal is not enough and gets used up very quickly!
Can't really complain about anything else cuz this phone is beast!
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This phone is so beast now with everything working. Weapon g2x 2.5 is by far the rom to be on.
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d12unk13astard said:
Honestly I would have been ok too with the g2x had it not been for the partitioning of internal storage, it's confusing and not needed when most people already own 16 or 32gb external sdcards and prefer installing everything to internal.
For some people 1gb is more than enough for apps/games, but with the market allowing dev's to increase the size of its product 1gb of internal is not enough and gets used up very quickly!
Can't really complain about anything else cuz this phone is beast!
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It comes standard with apps2sd. Most apps can be moved to sd so just do that and free up the 1gb internal. With apps2sd capability I think 1gb for apps is more than generous.

i loved this phone from the get-go but i received it with gingerbread pre-installed and tried to wait out a lot of the big bugs. my device has some noticeable screen bleed and a little bit of lagginess but other than that this phone is amazing! i don't miss my old phone at all. it is practically perfect to me

512MB of RAM is more than enough...
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Yeah this baby has been working pretty well for me...hopefully development for this continues on for a long time. The only gripe I have is battery life is a little on the short side...at least on the stock rom and nightly cm7 rom
Otherwise this phone does everything I need it to do and more
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it would be a good phone if it had a way to calibrate the g sensor.

FatalityBoyZahy said:
512MB of RAM is more than enough...
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+1 some people don't understand how Linux handles memory.
Vibrant+MIUI -> G2X

It's a great phone IF it's rooted or lucky enough to be bug free on stock. The general consumer might not be into rooting, and that bugged-launch debacle hit the phone's reputation hard. Also, I'm curious whether LG's failure to make some drivers open will be a big problem for devastating or just an annoyance (I'm not a dev, so I honestly don't know how big a problem it is).
Having said that, I think my rooted G2x is a great phone. Running Eagles Blood on it now, might switch to Weapons soon just for ****s and giggles. And might throw this Nexus S on eBay to go G2x full time.
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JettyLife said:
+1 some people don't understand how Linux handles memory.
Vibrant+MIUI -> G2X
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No, some people just like having as many apps or games installed as they prefer without running low on ram and lagging.
Not everyone is fine with just installing 5-10 apps, I and plenty others DO understand how Linux uses memory. Coming from the mt4g 768mb-1gb ram is the sweet spot IMHO.
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I love my phone.. Cm7 nightlies ftw

This phone has been awesome for the two month period I have owned it. It's fast, stable and I love the vanilla android experience! It's a shame the initial release was plagued with so many issues or more people would have a positive outlook on this phone.
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d12unk13astard said:
All it needs is 16-32gb internal storage and maybe 1gb of ram and it would have been future proof for a lonnnnnnnng time. Still it is a great phone just released too early.
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+1. 1gb RAM and this phone would've undoubtedly been THEE best phone in the market.

d12unk13astard said:
No, some people just like having as many apps or games installed as they prefer without running low on ram and lagging.
Not everyone is fine with just installing 5-10 apps, I and plenty others DO understand how Linux uses memory.
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Please explain how simply installing more apps on your phone uses more RAM (significantly more, not just because the launcher has to maintain a KB or two more data or something similar).

Because a lot of apps still run in the backround (even if your using a taskkiller, they will just turn back on thus consuming ram, and that's also just how linux uses it's ram) With me installing all apps/games i usually have around 50-60mb free ram which is still enough and i don't experience much lag if any, but i do plan on buying and installing more apps/games thus the reason 768-1gb ram is more preferable in the long run.

bjlefebvre said:
It's a great phone IF it's rooted or lucky enough to be bug free on stock.
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I don't know, mine wasn't rooted and worked just awesome. Smooth, no lag, no bugs. I've just recently rooted it, but no roms just yet. Still trying to decide which I want, lol. I haven't heard many bug reports since GB came out. But it is a shame the bad rep it got before. A friend of mine got it when it first came out...i've yet to convince him it's worth getting now. Gotta try to get him to actually test it out, lol.

What to get next??

So I'm looking for my next phone.
I was all set to buy the One S but no expansion and removable battery.
The One X is too big.
So where do I go.
I want the One S but 12GB isn't going to cut it.
Whats coming and I am considering non HTC as I;m not big on the current direction.
Current favourite is Sony Xperia S but not completly convinced on this one is there anything coming soon worth waiting for?

Nothing in the very near future which would represent a noticeable upgrade from the sensation. Personally I'm waiting a bit longer.
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Just hang on longer to the Sensation if you can't find anything. Mayne the SGS3?
If not, just keep the Sensaion and wait for better phones in Q3. Sensation is still a powerful piece of hardware
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Well the sensation isn't too old you can still hang on and wait or if your in a hurry the xperia s doesn't seem that bad just low dev atm...
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shahkam said:
Well the sensation isn't too old you can still hang on and wait or if your in a hurry the xperia s doesn't seem that bad just low dev atm...
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Xperia isn't much of an upgrade!! It still has the sane old S3 chip, not the newer & much better S4 one!
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Nope, nothing worth upgrading to just yet.

Nothing on the horizon yet...I'm still enjoying the S4G & Xda development section!

Im looking at the samsung galaxy s3 depending how quad core is handled with battery life, the one s was my next choice too until the no sd card and removable battery. One x is too big so im left with samsung s3.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-4238.php

What do you mean by the One X being too big? Physically, storage space, or price?
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Jedi2011 said:
What do you mean by the One X being too big? Physically, storage space, or price?
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Physically I think
Storage is never big enough for ANYONE
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I was thinking one S as well but like you said the low amount of storage has put me off it. I mean, the non-removable battery I could live with but only 16 gb's of storage....HTC, what are you thinking???

One X isn't a phone it doesn't fit in many pockets easily far a start.
Nice screen for movies and browsing but a little too impracticable for everyday life.
I go into the highlands in Scotland a lot what use is 25GB of dropbox if you can't access it.
A mobile device is for when your out and about we don't all live in London with permanent 3G and WiFi hotspots around every corner and that's when you want to access the content.
Have you tried streaming on a train or down the motorway in my experience you get crap connection speeds when moving at speed.
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I absolutely agree with you. My concerns are the same. Everyone around me was impressed about this 25GB of storage with dropbox and I know for instance Three UK offer "all you can eat data" plan but they are the only one (as far as I know) and other carriers have their limit. And not to talk about still having gprs and edge connection in many area what I can't even use to fart on it... Anyway, brilliant phone is the One X but I still love my sensation and I'm sure I will sit on this phone till something similar will be released...

LG optimus 4X. Removable battery and an SD card. Hahahaha.
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my thoughts exactly....
kingston73 said:
I was thinking one S as well but like you said the low amount of storage has put me off it. I mean, the non-removable battery I could live with but only 16 gb's of storage....HTC, what are you thinking???
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After seeing the specs of the EVO LTE and the European ONE X I was greatly displeased and turned off by the ONE S. EVERY nextgen flagship phone coming out seems to crush it spec wise.
given the fact that i have had multiple HTC phones I have no faith in their ability to make a battery that is sufficient for the phone it supports. So to embed a paltry battery like the one in the ONE S was an immediate deal killer. Then to find out about the memory too...it was not even a second thought.
As for blaming HTC, I have seen the light. The new EVO will be a beast. There is an on board 16 gig memory PLUS its expandable for an additional 32 gig. There is also a 2000 Ma battery if I am not mistaken. HTC "can" make a desireable phone, but T-mo has not required nor demanded a game-changer or a true flagship from them which is sad. Until t-mo stops slacking we will have to sit out cycles (like now) or switch to other brands.

I think I will be sticking with my Sensation until Q3 or Q4. So I won't regret any purchase because by that time all of the flasghip from every manufacturer has already been released. The sensation is still too powerful anyway.
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Galaxy nexus is my next phone... Done with all these manufacturer's. I will stick to the nexus line.
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cenwesi said:
Galaxy nexus is my next phone... Done with all these manufacturer's. I will stick to the nexus line.
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+1.. I am inloved w/stock Android now. Very mature and clean.
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Just the development alone from DEV's on the Nexus line is more than enough.... NEVER again will i buy another Android Phone that is not the Nexus line.

The sensation should be too powerful but mine is laggy as Hell since getting Android 4.
New Motorola coming out has 3000mA battery, if moto can do it HTC should be capable.
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HTC One X+ is Official

http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/02/ht...-jelly-bean-sense-4-plus/?icid=eng_latest_art
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specter491 said:
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/02/ht...-jelly-bean-sense-4-plus/?icid=eng_latest_art
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Also a good thing is this
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/02/htc-jelly-bean-one-series/
Although it seems it's more so for the International version... and we will have to wait a bit longer... but still

The 64GB expanded storage is what hurts the most I think, though it's very possible there willl be a variant with less like our HOXL.

Stop making these threads!!!! We have 4-5 already!!!! Search!
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And this is the reason why I hate contracts.
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Yawn.... Not impressed
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CheesyNutz said:
Yawn.... Not impressed
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Not even with the 64GB if that makes it to the US version

deepsouth06 said:
Not even with the 64GB if that makes it to the US version
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Not really. A mostly unnoticeable jump in CPU speed (that OC could have already gotten you), and 64 GB when I still don't fill my 8 GB. Carry on. I'll be waiting for Exynos 5.

Yea. It seems to much like the Int. One x. And I'm just excited for some official jellybean. =D Can't wait to see how they pull it off, since the last official stock ROM was actually good this should he better with butter and what not!
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AJerman said:
Not really. A mostly unnoticeable jump in CPU speed (that OC could have already gotten you), and 64 GB when I still don't fill my 8 GB. Carry on. I'll be waiting for Exynos 5.
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I my self love my current One-x phone but if i could have asked for anything different it would have been the storage space. I still havent filled up my current one-x but just knowing that the phone has plenty of space is a good comfort feeling. Ultimately this phone wouldnt make me jump to try and sell my current one, but it sure would have been nice to have more than 16 (12 useable) gigs of space.

The storage and bigger battery hurt some. The processor boost is whatever, but I am constantly having to pull stuff off my phone because I am out of storage and that extra 17% of battery capacity would have made it so I make it home every night before my phone dies.

Butters619 said:
The storage and bigger battery hurt some. The processor boost is whatever, but I am constantly having to pull stuff off my phone because I am out of storage and that extra 17% of battery capacity would have made it so I make it home every night before my phone dies.
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Agree. During the $.25 sale i realized how little space we have on our phone! I ran out of space after buying FIFA, Mass effect and batman. I never thought i would run out of space on my phone but 14GB seems too little now.
32 would be ideal, 64 perfect.
I'm not a big fan of tegra 3 because of its battery consumption. I prefer cortex 15 based s4 which is very efficient.
The battery and rom is the only thing that i wish i had.

Dupe thread. Closed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916202

Hardware Question

Is it possible to do a hardware mod for an sd card, the 10gig on my att one x is barely cutting it, but I have a class 10 32GB from my evo 3d I want to use, but I don't know if it can be done. I've looked for teardowns but I don't see enough detail. Any help is appreciated
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USB otg is probably the simplest way to use an sdcard now that ROMs support it