[Q] what am i lacking? - HTC Desire S

i got this hboot details..
-Revolutionary-
SAGA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-6.98.1002
RADIO-3805.06.02.03_M
eMMC-boot
March 10 2011,14:58:38
im using custom
[ROM][27 APR] [Reaper V3.0 | GB 2.3.7] [Reaper Kernel V1.2][FTL Launcher][UCS]]
do i still need to flash radio and hboot??
if so then what guide should i follow??
iv been reading this thread for a while now..
too many guides i dont know which one to follow..
thx for answer )

What exactly are you trying to do? You never need to flash a radio or HBOOT unless you want to.

dan-fish said:
What exactly are you trying to do? You never need to flash a radio or HBOOT unless you want to.
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BTW im using 4EXT recovery
i read somewhere in this forum its better to flash ENG hboot after revolutionary right??
is it fine if i flash it while using custom rom??
and about the radio thing im not sure if i need that..
i just want to make sure nothing's bad
gonna happen

What am I lacking?
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That begs a witty reply, but I'll supress the urge...
You don't need to flash another HBOOT unless you want to flash another ROM that requires a different HBOOT version. Some (as they say) 'Re-engineered' HBOOTS also don't allow Fastboot commands, keep that in mind when deciding on one. Some programs such as 'Android Flasher' say they require an ENG HBOOT to work etc... Once again it comes down to what YOU want as dan fish mentioned.

twiice said:
That begs a witty reply, but I'll supress the urge...
You don't need to flash another HBOOT unless you want to flash another ROM that requires a different HBOOT version. Some (as they say) 'Re-engineered' HBOOTS also don't allow Fastboot commands, keep that in mind when deciding on one. Some programs such as 'Android Flasher' say they require an ENG HBOOT to work etc... Once again it comes down to what YOU want as dan fish mentioned.
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i see so i dont need to flash and hboot??? are you sure some command's wont work???
but there are many threads saying its better to flash eng hboot...than revolutionary??

Yes, they say it's better according to THEIR needs. Do some research on just what different HBOOTS including the Eng one can accomplish, then decide if you really need to change. And yes, some HBOOTS do not accept Fastboot commands after you've flashed them.
Just relax, ignore the hype[excited opinions], analyze facts and then decide.
Do not go mindlessly flashing stuff just because ppl say it's bettah...

haha thx maybe i need more knowledge about hboot and radios
ill just stay here and read more hahah thx again ^_^

but ill still wait for other's opinion though
guys if someone is there any opinion??
i need extra knowledge about this
thx

Sorry, but im just borrowing this thread a little bit
What does happen with my phone when I downgrade the HBOOT?
Pls answer, because I have searched for a whole week and I haven't got any answer from anyone

ThaBrazzer said:
Sorry, but im just borrowing this thread a little bit
What does happen with my phone when I downgrade the HBOOT?
Pls answer, because I have searched for a whole week and I haven't got any answer from anyone
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when you downgrade your hboot you can use revolutionary for s-off...i think

Okey, but I mean, is the phone the same after the process? Or does anything change(for an example, does the operative system change it something?).
Thanks for answering I really appreciate it
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You won't see any changes. I believe the updated HBOOT changed the size of certain partitions. Shouldn't affect you by downgrading

Aha, okey thanks!
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[q] installation aborted in cwm

I downloaded Android Revolution HD 1.0.1 and Format data partition EXT4 and i was trying to install them thru the CWM provided on this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14679336#post14679336 It keeps displaying e:error in /sdcard/format data partition ext4.zip(status 1) I already have RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_10.42.9007.00P_10.11.9007.15_M_release_192608_signed installed and SHIP S-OFF
PLZ HELP
-It seems that is fails everytime when i'm installing a ROM, the same thing happened when i installing MDJ's sensation sense ROM
I don't know if SHIP S-OFF will allow you to do what ENG S-OFF (ENG=Engineering).
do i need to have a eng s-off device to flash custom ROM?
howetechnical said:
I don't know if SHIP S-OFF will allow you to do what ENG S-OFF (ENG=Engineering).
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do i need to have a eng s-off device to flash custom ROM?
Calm down, no need to post multiples of the same thing
Like I mentioned, I don't know what SHIP S-OFF allows you to do. It may, or may not, give you engineering capabilities. We won't know for sure until others who have SHIP S-OFF chime in with their findings. It's most likely the case though, as changing ROMs and kernels is an engineering function.
howetechnical said:
Calm down, no need to post multiples of the same thing
Like I mentioned, I don't know what SHIP S-OFF allows you to do. It may, or may not, give you engineering capabilities. We won't know for sure until others who have SHIP S-OFF chime in with their findings. It's most likely the case though, as changing ROMs and kernels is an engineering function.
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lol i did that cuz i just noticed that i replied to my post but not yours, so i'll trying to get a eng S-OFF on my phone
willxyz said:
lol i did that cuz i just noticed that i replied to my post but not yours, so i'll trying to get a eng S-OFF on my phone
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Just out of curiosity, can you check your SDCARD for a file called SMART_IO.crd?

[Q] H-boot version changed once I flashed a rom normal?

my h-boot version was 18 then when i flashed android revolution rom it went to a 17. (not exact numbers but thats not really the point) I was just wondering what the H-boot version really has to do with my device itself. Or would i need to be able to switch it back to original state at some point
rddocke said:
my h-boot version was 18 then when i flashed android revolution rom it went to a 17. (not exact numbers but thats not really the point) I was just wondering what the H-boot version really has to do with my device itself. Or would i need to be able to switch it back to original state at some point
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Hboot is on a separate partition than rom. When you go from stock to rooted your hboot might change, depending on the root method.
Flashing a rom won't change it. Reverting to stock with an ruu will.
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rddocke said:
my h-boot version was 18 then when i flashed android revolution rom it went to a 17. (not exact numbers but thats not really the point) I was just wondering what the H-boot version really has to do with my device itself. Or would i need to be able to switch it back to original state at some point
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You're good to go, that's how's it suppose to be. Make sure you have supercid, and also if you have time search in devolpement section for Bin4ry and flash Eng Hboot to be safe.
epsix said:
You're good to go, that's how's it suppose to be. Make sure you have supercid, and also if you have time search in devolpement section for Bin4ry and flash Eng Hboot to be safe.
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Thanks for4 the replies guys i havent messed with CID yet or Eng. currently running ARHD 3.6.0 i havent had any troubles rooting or flashing and speeds seem to be doing well.. i am still working on maximizing my battery life. its good i get about 15 hours when im not on wifi.
but how will Eng and CID help out?
Those are just gonna help you in the long run without bricking your phone if you do alot of flashing. Nothing to do with battery. Lol
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rddocke said:
Thanks for4 the replies guys i havent messed with CID yet or Eng. currently running ARHD 3.6.0 i havent had any troubles rooting or flashing and speeds seem to be doing well.. i am still working on maximizing my battery life. its good i get about 15 hours when im not on wifi.
but how will Eng and CID help out?
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Engineering hboot allows you to flash recovery and radio at a more basic level and can help you recover from a ****ed up state in some cases. Good idea to have.
Super CID just allows you to flash an ruu from another carrier and is completely unnecessary if you're flashing custom roms.
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epsix said:
Those are just gonna help you in the long run without bricking your phone if you do alot of flashing. Nothing to do with battery. Lol
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using XDA Premium App
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Hmm I'll look into it some more got any referrals for my research?
And ya I was just making a comment on my battery life I didn't think any of this would have an effect on battery life. Just pointing out successes. Fortunately haven't faced too difficult a situation with the sensation.
Now the galaxy s 2 on group via mini kies, bow that was a pain. Again thanks
Phateless said:
Engineering hboot allows you to flash recovery and radio at a more basic level and can help you recover from a ****ed up state in some cases. Good idea to have.
Super CID just allows you to flash an ruu from another carrier and is completely unnecessary if you're flashing custom roms.
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I mean how much more basic could it get then flashing under CWM? If there's a simpler way I'm all for it lol.
But seriously ill look into it some more I just figured dont fix what ain't broken you know?
Flashing the radio/recovery isn't done via CWM - it's done using fastboot commands
EddyOS said:
Flashing the radio/recovery isn't done via CWM - it's done using fastboot commands
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I was speaking of simplicity in general I'm just curiouse to what this more basic level would be. I did just fine with the flashing of o_10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2 without adb
rddocke said:
I was speaking of simplicity in general I'm just curiouse to what this more basic level would be. I did just fine with the flashing of o_10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2 without adb
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It provides you some extra options if something goes wrong.
Phateless said:
It provides you some extra options if something goes wrong.
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Ok cool thanks boss.
Is there anything to look for in a radio or zip before flashing that would tip me off to potential brickage or do you have to kinda just experience it?
rddocke said:
Ok cool thanks boss.
Is there anything to look for in a radio or zip before flashing that would tip me off to potential brickage or do you have to kinda just experience it?
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Make SURE it's the right radio for your device and check md5sum. Do a google search, md5sum is easy.
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Phateless said:
Make SURE it's the right radio for your device and check md5sum. Do a google search, md5sum is easy.
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Gotcha thanks. Also I'm sure there is a difference between eng s-off and the s-off using revolutionary.io since your here and we talkin about it, you have a definition for me in basic terms? Perhaps a link to someplace? I been looking in google but they start talking about ship s-off and radio s-off, I'm not sure what s-off I've done. I just knew it was necessary before perm rooting.
rddocke said:
Gotcha thanks. Also I'm sure there is a difference between eng s-off and the s-off using revolutionary.io since your here and we talkin about it, you have a definition for me in basic terms? Perhaps a link to someplace? I been looking in google but they start talking about ship s-off and radio s-off, I'm not sure what s-off I've done. I just knew it was necessary before perm rooting.
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Revolutionary does radio s-off which means the phone itself has security turned off and whatever hboot you have will display that. Eng s-off means the hboot is allowing the security bypass. Ship s-off just means it came that way from factory.
My understanding is somewhat rudimentary so I would appreciate one of the elders stepping in to clarify if I've missed anything.
We need s-off to give hboot permission to flash a custom recovery. Then we use the custom recovery because it permits us to make changes to the firmware, like the update that gave us root access.
The hierarchy goes radio, hboot, recovery, rom. Each is on a separate partition.
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Phateless said:
Revolutionary does radio s-off which means the phone itself has security turned off and whatever hboot you have will display that. Eng s-off means the hboot is allowing the security bypass. Ship s-off just means it came that way from factory.
My understanding is somewhat rudimentary so I would appreciate one of the elders stepping in to clarify if I've missed anything.
We need s-off to give hboot permission to flash a custom recovery. Then we use the custom recovery because it permits us to make changes to the firmware, like the update that gave us root access.
The hierarchy goes radio, hboot, recovery, rom. Each is on a separate partition.
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Wow ok that was very helpful. Looks like this is turning into quite a decent thread. I appreciate you for your knowledge spread.
I would like to see (as you put it) one of the elders step in here with their feedback as well.
I'm gonna go ahead and move to the next step (eng) and see where that will take me in my adventures of the sensation.
I am also interested to hear from other members about their achievements with their devices as far as CPU speeds and of the many tricks that can performed by the sensation. I find myself searching for that info all day.

[Q] rooting my htc desire S

I have been trying for a long time, to root my phone but i have tried
SuperOneClick (it rootes and then it restarts and then its just stuck at trying to restart)
Revolutionary (didn't work)
Unrevoked (didn't work)
GingerBreak (didn't work)
But it wont root.
Its locked,
Saga PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.00.0002
Radio- 3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
could someone please try to help me
Skandix
First of all, You should use search, as this topic (rooting) is covered very well in here.
Second thing is, that You should provide more info like - is bootloader locked? what's hboot version?
Few threads below we have helped a man with similiar problem, so maybe You should follow his steps.
See... You need to educate Yourself a bit more, so I strongly recommend reading all the 'stickies' first and doing some search.
It is too early for spoon feeding.
Good luck.
skandix said:
I have been trying for a long time, to root my phone but i have tried
SuperOneClick (it rootes and then it restarts and then its just stuck at trying to restart)
Revolutionary (didn't work)
Unrevoked (didn't work)
GingerBreak (didn't work)
But it wont root.
Its locked,
Saga PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.00.0002
Radio- 3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
could someone please try to help me
Skandix
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Hey dude same happens for me, try and old RUU, like this:
"RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M_release_177977_signed"
HTCdev or d d d downgrade........
foX2delta said:
d d d downgrade........
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Made me laugh
but that's what needs to be done, right!
Sent my thoughts to your head with XDA App
massi99 said:
Hey dude same happens for me, try and old RUU, like this:
"RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M_release_177977_signed"[/QUOTE
hmm, is there a tread that could show me how i could do this?
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skandix said:
massi99 said:
Hey dude same happens for me, try and old RUU, like this:
"RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M_release_177977_signed"[/QUOTE
hmm, is there a tread that could show me how i could do this?
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please, please, please
just search the forums....
[GUIDE] A Complete Tutorial for the Beginners and Others
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skandix said:
massi99 said:
Hey dude same happens for me, try and old RUU, like this:
"RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M_release_177977_signed"[/QUOTE
hmm, is there a tread that could show me how i could do this?
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hey dude first download 1 RUU from this link, i think the best one is this "RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M_release_177977_signed":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
Then turn debug on and run the RUU. And follow the instruction from the RUU install.
Good luck, just pm me if you have problems
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@massi99
You know you aren't considering misc version and possible a goldcard right...?
And you also know you gave the link to the Desire RUU's which is a sure way for him to screw up his phone. Here's the thread you looking for.
So I say again, either downgrade (I can almost guarantee that his misc will be 2. something) or use HTCdev.
Make a goldcard to be safe....
massi99 said:
skandix said:
hey dude first download 1 RUU from this link, i think the best one is this "RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M_release_177977_signed":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
Then turn debug on and run the RUU. And follow the instruction from the RUU install.
Good luck, just pm me if you have problems
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WTF?!!
Man, are you trying to help him, of **** his phone up?!
If you can't do good for someone, at least refrain from harming them. That bloody link takes you to the Desire (not Desire S) thread. Get your facts right before acting like a "know-it-all" and running amok mouthing nonsense around here. Your "guide" and "procedure" are crap, and will most likely end up screwing the poor OP's phone! Do you even know what Misc_version and CID checks are when installing an RUU? Do you know that the Desire S and the Desire are different devices entirely? C'mon man, i don't usually do this, but you make flaming look justified!
@the OP, just follow fox2delta's advice. He's actually got a head between his shoulders, rather than his ass (unlike your self-declared saviour)
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@massi99
You know you aren't considering misc version and possible a goldcard right...?
And you also know you gave the link to the Desire RUU's which is a sure way for him to screw up his phone. Here's the thread you looking for.
So I say again, either downgrade (I can almost guarantee that his misc will be 2. something) or use HTCdev.
Make a goldcard to be safe....
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Just screw gold card, dident works anyway.
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enigmaamit said:
massi99 said:
WTF?!!
Man, are you trying to help him, of **** his phone up?!
If you can't do good for someone, at least refrain from harming them. That bloody link takes you to the Desire (not Desire S) thread. Get your facts right before acting like a "know-it-all" and running amok mouthing nonsense around here. Your "guide" and "procedure" are crap, and will most likely end up screwing the poor OP's phone! Do you even know what Misc_version and CID checks are when installing an RUU? Do you know that the Desire S and the Desire are different devices entirely? C'mon man, i don't usually do this, but you make flaming look justified!
@the OP, just follow fox2delta's advice. He's actually got a head between his shoulders, rather than his ass (unlike your self-declared saviour)
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Yes sorry got the wrong RUU link
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bronx said:
First of all, You should use search, as this topic (rooting) is covered very well in here.
Second thing is, that You should provide more info like - is bootloader locked? what's hboot version?
Few threads below we have helped a man with similiar problem, so maybe You should follow his steps.
See... You need to educate Yourself a bit more, so I strongly recommend reading all the 'stickies' first and doing some search.
It is too early for spoon feeding.
Good luck.
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I have to say I completely agree, this is asked in these forums like 10+ times a day, not searching first is a little lazy
Anyway, as mentioned previously you need to unlock your bootloader at HTCDev and then use superoneclick and you'll root your phone. then use the search button to find how to install a custom rom. (I asked for help if you care to have a look in the Q&A and the lovely members were kind enough to give a very very easy to follow step by step instructions)
massi99 said:
Just screw gold card, dident works anyway.
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Then you either didn't make the card correctly or the memory card selected just didn't play nice. Goldcards are very good thing to keep for the average Joe who doesn't know if the phone is branded (or does know) or don't know what they are doing.
to scandix
I had the same setup as you and the same situation aswell!
Please, look into this topic where I have described firstyle my situation and then whole solution from A to Z, look into 2nd page of topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1482532
Let me know if it helps you somehow or don't.
i just rooted it..
skandix said:
I have been trying for a long time, to root my phone but i have tried
SuperOneClick (it rootes and then it restarts and then its just stuck at trying to restart)
Revolutionary (didn't work)
Unrevoked (didn't work)
GingerBreak (didn't work)
But it wont root.
Its locked,
Saga PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.00.0002
Radio- 3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
could someone please try to help me
Skandix
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I had set the phone rooting on pause for a long time, and i decided to try root it.
i did it from
Its locked,
Saga PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.00.0002
Radio- 3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
-Reveloution-
Saga PUT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-98.00.0000
Radio- 3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
And with clockworkmod.
so happy. Thanks for helping me :

Revolutionary or ENG-Hboot

I Have one question.What is better : the ENG-Hboot or the Revolutionary HBoot ?
jens96 said:
I Have one question.What is better : the ENG-Hboot or the Revolutionary HBoot ?
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Define "Better"
Anyway, if you mean which is overwritable, it's the ENG Hboot.
jens96 said:
I Have one question.What is better : the ENG-Hboot or the Revolutionary HBoot ?
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ENG
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
jens96 said:
I Have one question.What is better : the ENG-Hboot or the Revolutionary HBoot ?
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The ENG-Hboot will save you further troubles with different rom instalations.
how can i overwrite my Revolutionary HBoot with the Eng-Hboot ?
Safer is a better word... Then the ENG one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146601
jens96 said:
I Have one question.What is better : the ENG-Hboot or the Revolutionary HBoot ?
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first of all in terms of functionality they're not so different, but the revolutionary hboot wont be overwritten to stock hboot in case u apply an ruu, while the eng hboot will ...this will be useful in case of warranty repair
and also the eng hboot will let u flash radios and other hboot by fastboot commands
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XKanoX said:
in case u want sense 3 roms u should flash 2.00.2002
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That is both inaccurate and unnecessary
Beamed from the Dark Side using xda premium.
Thanks for the information guys, I'm going to send my DS back to the store for fixing my audio plug. I still had revolutionary hboot .
So i'm flashing ENG-HBoot 0.98.2000 and i'll be restoring with the lastest RUU. Wham. Back is my warranty
Btw, I have an unbranded Desire S
Correct me if i'm wrong. Going to do it this afternoon
This is why I love this forum
djpbx said:
Correct me if i'm wrong. Going to do it this afternoon
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Yes you are correct. Only one addition from me: if you are going to do this for warranty purposes only, flash the ENG hboot, but use the version or RUU which came when you bought the phone. For example mine was with 1.28.401.1. For the warranty it does not matter the version as far as you are Stock (like if you like Sense 2.1 better and do not want to update OTA). Anyway the reason is that later you will S-OFF with Revolutionary, contrary to the latest version (2.10.401.9 - I am assuming that you are using European unbranded version) which will need htcdev.com to Unlock (I will not recommend this way) or Downgrade with temp root misc_version change. Summary: you will spare yourself all of this if you use RUU with an older version (it would match your current version which will be 1.47.401.4 looking at your Revolutionary version). But at the end the choice is all yours
amidabuddha said:
Yes you are correct. Only one addition from me: if you are going to do this for warranty purposes only, flash the ENG hboot, but use the version or RUU which came when you bought the phone. For example mine was with 1.28.401.1. For the warranty it does not matter the version as far as you are Stock (like if you like Sense 2.1 better and do not want to update OTA). Anyway the reason is that later you will S-OFF with Revolutionary, contrary to the latest version (2.10.401.9 - I am assuming that you are using European unbranded version) which will need htcdev.com to Unlock (I will not recommend this way) or Downgrade with temp root misc_version change. Summary: you will spare yourself all of this if you use RUU with an older version (it would match your current version which will be 1.47.401.4 looking at your Revolutionary version). But at the end the choice is all yours
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Thanks for the information. I'm going to use 1.47.401.4 then so I can use Revolutionary again. It was really easy to use. And hey, why take the hard way when you can do it easy?
Now i hope this device gets repaired and that they don't just send a new one
I'll report out later on this day if everything worked out well.
XKanoX said:
... wastes space since it has bigger partitions, thx to tectas for this info
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The partitions aren't bigger, there is an additional lib partition that isn't mounted by i.e. CM7, the space for it is taken from the cache partition.
Swifted from my Desire S far away from my PC
Successfully flashed HBOOT-0.98.2000 I'm restoring with RUU later, I'll do tuesday when I must send my device back
enigmaamit said:
That is both inaccurate and unnecessary
Beamed from the Dark Side using xda premium.
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well this is what the forums are for, sharing the info that we know or think we know, but u didnt say ur opinion on the matter
anyway feel free to correct me we are here to learn
XKanoX said:
well this is what the forums are for, sharing the info that we know or think we know, but u didnt say ur opinion on the matter
anyway feel free to correct me we are here to learn
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Calm down, it has been my fault because i gave you a more quick and dirty answer instead of explaining all in detail.
About partitions i explained above, about sense 3, only sense 3.0 roms based on the latest ruus using the additional lib partition (and even there not all of them). I didn't say it before, because i thought it doesn't matter for you, because you are anyways using cm7.
Sry, for OT.
Edit: enigmaamit meant also (or i think he meant it, if i'm wrong pls correct me), that the op didn't want to know which version of the eng hboot is better in which case, he just wanted to know how he can overwrite the revolutionary one.
XKanoX said:
well this is what the forums are for, sharing the info that we know or think we know, but u didnt say ur opinion on the matter
anyway feel free to correct me we are here to learn
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You don't HAVE to use the new hboot fo sense. The old one works just fine. That is what i meant to say, in reply to your rather assertive statement that (and i'm quoting you here) :
"in case u want sense 3 roms u should flash 2.00.2002"
You can use the new hboot on sense ROMs if you want, but it doesn't give you any benefits compared to the older one... (feel free to point out if somehow you believe that it does) so the "should flash" part was misleading. It is also advisable not to muck around with the hboot unless absolutely necessary, more so with the new one (2.00.2002), which only creates a setting for complications later on, without any well established benefits.
I only corrected you for your own sake, and for the sake of other readers here who might take your advice at face value. It wasn't my intention to flame you, nor was my post drafted with any scorn/sarcasm/fire.
You misunderstood me, hence this explanation. However, I acknowledge that it's your device, so feel free to live by whatever concepts suit you best.
enigmaamit said:
You don't HAVE to use the new hboot fo sense. The old one works just fine. That is what i meant to say, in reply to your rather assertive statement that (and i'm quoting you here) :
"in case u want sense 3 roms u should flash 2.00.2002"
You can use the new hboot on sense ROMs if you want, but it doesn't give you any benefits compared to the older one... (feel free to point out if somehow you believe that it does) so the "should flash" part was misleading. It is also advisable not to muck around with the hboot unless absolutely necessary, more so with the new one (2.00.2002), which only creates a setting for complications later on, without any well established benefits.
I only corrected you for your own sake, and for the sake of other readers here who might take your advice at face value. It wasn't my intention to flame you, nor was my post drafted with any scorn/sarcasm/fire.
You misunderstood me, hence this explanation. However, I acknowledge that it's your device, so feel free to live by whatever concepts suit you best.
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Something else i missed to point out, sry and thx for saying it, I must confess that i didn't really notice the should^^
About the 2.00.2002, it has been told that the new bootloader serves a little speed improvement at usage with roms that include the additional lib partition, but that's all afaik.
But with the complications your right, i tried it yesterday for a short time and i had the /cache error at recovery (the one that long has been mistakenly connected to the dead emmc) a wipe fixed it, but as long as i used 0.98.2000 (and now again) i never had it.
Tectas said:
Something else i missed to point out, sry and thx for saying it, I must confess that i didn't really notice the should^^
About the 2.00.2002, it has been told that the new bootloader serves a little speed improvement at usage with roms that include the additional lib partition, but that's all afaik.
But with the complications your right, i tried it yesterday for a short time and i had the /cache error at recovery (the one that long has been mistakenly connected to the dead emmc) a wipe fixed it, but as long as i used 0.98.2000 (and now again) i never had it.
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Thank you for that tectas.
I believe it is a good idea to always look at the risk-vs-benefit ratio when doing anything... I live by this philosophy and even apply it to my clinical practice when deciding treatment options that include drugs and surgical modalities. And in this case, i do not see the point of using an hboot which offers no groundbreaking boost in performance (if it did, all the devs here would have migrated to it long ago...) as compared to the potential glitches it is reputed to cause... As far as i am concerned, there are only two logical choices when changing your hboot... either stick to the revolutionary hboot, or the ENG hboot, as they are widely proven to be stable and user-friendly. 2.00.2002 was something HTC decided to cram down our throats and from what i can see, all over the forum, people are choosing to downgrade and get either of the two above... Those on the new hboot are welcome to stick to it, but it is counter-intutive to actually change your existing hboot to the new one, just for the heck of it.
'nuff said. I rest my case. I, for sure, am never moving to 2.00.2002 - i just don't see the point.
no on the contrary i'm not angry or anything, im delighted for gaining this info now.
and understand the risks of the new eng hboot, thx to all of you guys for re-explaining this and sorry for the incovenience, will modify my original post so no one gets confused

[Q] Anyone want to upgrade my HOX hboot? I'll pay.

I just had a child and really don't have the hours to spend researching like I should.
I would like to Skype with someone and have them walk me through the process.
I'll pay $15 through paypal.
Thanks,
prizman
For what purpose do you want to upgrade your hboot? Also, please post your current details: hboot, locked/unlocked status, s-on/s-off status, basically the first five lines of your bootloader screen.
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timmaaa said:
For what purpose do you want to upgrade your hboot?
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Yeah, if you don't have time to mess with hboot, which mess with it at all?
timmaaa said:
For what purpose do you want to upgrade your hboot? Also, please post your current details: hboot, locked/unlocked status, s-on/s-off status, basically the first five lines of your bootloader screen.
Sent from my Evita
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I want to update my rom. I'm running Cyanogen 10 which is 4.1.1 and would like to upgrade to 4.2.2 at least. I'm looking forward to the new Paranoid Android rom and the PAC rom. Why have a rooted phone if you can't install all the newest gadgets on it?
Bootloader screen:
**** Tampered ****
**** Unlocked ****
EVITA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT - 1.09.0000
RADIO-0.16.32.09.01_3
OpenDSP-v25.1.0.32.0405
eMMC-boot
redpoint73 said:
Yeah, if you don't have time to mess with hboot, which mess with it at all?
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Everytime I try and update the rom, I get an error saying the hboot needs to be updated.
It's not just the hboot that needs to be updated, a full update of the firmware is required so you need to run an RUU. In order to do this safely you need to get s-off first. Is your phone an att model? Do you have SuperCID?
PS. I realise that you might not have a great deal of time on your hands, but it is your responsibility (and XDA rules) to search before posting.
PPS. I'm not helping you because you're offering a reward, and in my opinion nor should anyone else be.
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Sent you a pm.
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda app-developers app
timmaaa said:
It's not just the hboot that needs to be updated, a full update of the firmware is required so you need to run an RUU. In order to do this safely you need to get s-off first. Is your phone an att model?
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+1 on this.
If you are S-off, just run the RUU and you are good to go. You'll have to reinstall custom recovery, since RUU writes stock recovery to the phone. But that's really it.
If you aren't S-off, the process is very easy. But it requires SuperCID, which if you don't already have SuperCID might be a bit more involved.
BTW, if you are SuperCID and S-on, do not run a Jellybean RUU, as it will brick the phone.

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