Hey good day guys, Just looking for some Battery life optimizations tips and tricks, my phone is used heavily as it is my work/personal/entertainment device, Right now Im getting around 12 hrs out of it. Anyone have any ideas to boost this?
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Rooted Stock Rogers ICS 4.0.4
SetCPU (Powersaving)
JuiceDefender Ultimate (Aggressive)
Bloatware removed(with some non-essential services Frozen)
you seem to have covered the basics, you could also undervolt and keep your screen brightness low if its not a hassle.
you could try supercharger http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276 I have no clue how well it affects out phones never really had anything to compare it to.
If your a heavy user you could always consider getting either extended battery or spare batteries with a charger and just switch whenever you need.
Aside from getting extended battery, other things you can do is changing the kernel to a tweaked one such as this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1701189
You can set wifi/data to shut off while not in use (I use this one).
Some people get good battery life with SkyICS (Custom ROM) and I have actually have gotten 3 1/2 days of light/standby use from it which is pretty good.
I personally use CM9 with a custom kernel but with everything tweaked, brightness, undervolt, disconnect when not in use, no auto sync etc... I get about about 15-20hr light/mild use, I did manage 2 days with light/mild/standby use and maybe 1%/hr standby drain. :good:
8ballhacker said:
Hey good day guys, Just looking for some Battery life optimizations tips and tricks, my phone is used heavily as it is my work/personal/entertainment device, Right now Im getting around 12 hrs out of it. Anyone have any ideas to boost this?
Info:
SGH-I727R
Rooted Stock Rogers ICS 4.0.4
SetCPU (Powersaving)
JuiceDefender Ultimate (Aggressive)
Bloatware removed(with some non-essential services Frozen)
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Concur with previous posters. Also 12 hours is great.
Using SeanZ's SkyICS 4.2F r2 v6B ROM / XDA Premium
kishke said:
you seem to have covered the basics, you could also undervolt and keep your screen brightness low if its not a hassle.
you could try supercharger http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276 I have no clue how well it affects out phones never really had anything to compare it to.
If your a heavy user you could always consider getting either extended battery or spare batteries with a charger and just switch whenever you need.
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UZ7 said:
Aside from getting extended battery, other things you can do is changing the kernel to a tweaked one such as this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1701189
You can set wifi/data to shut off while not in use (I use this one).
Some people get good battery life with SkyICS (Custom ROM) and I have actually have gotten 3 1/2 days of light/standby use from it which is pretty good.
I personally use CM9 with a custom kernel but with everything tweaked, brightness, undervolt, disconnect when not in use, no auto sync etc... I get about about 15-20hr light/mild use, I did manage 2 days with light/mild/standby use and maybe 1%/hr standby drain. :good:
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Datron said:
Concur with previous posters. Also 12 hours is great.
Using SeanZ's SkyICS 4.2F r2 v6B ROM / XDA Premium
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Gotta Say guys this why I love XDA. Will keep posted over the next couple days of battery life. BIG THANKS AGAIN GUYS :highfive:
Datron said:
Concur with previous posters. Also 12 hours is great.
Using SeanZ's SkyICS 4.2F r2 v6B ROM / XDA Premium
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I get like 17-20 hours with moderate use a few calls when running stock (including the various leaked stock ROMs)
When I flash a custom ROM, seemingly any custom ROM, My battery life falls to about 8-11 hours, pretty much half of what I had been getting. It's extremely noticeable, I can practically watch the numbers count down as I'm using it.
I know this is not normal. You can convince yourself 12 hours is great even with all the power saver stuff on, but our phones should be doing a lot more and we should be asking why they aren't.
Standby time is especially dismal in my current configuration. It loses just as much as when the phone is in use.
Search around, it's been answered before. Yesterday I got over 20 hours with almost 3 hours of screen time. I lose about 1% per hour when idle, roughly.
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Search around, it's been answered before. Yesterday I got over 20 hours with almost 3 hours of screen time. I lose about 1% per hour when idle, roughly.
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Yeah, so do a lot of people. Including me, when I'm on stock. This question hasn't been answered, and if you know the answer, please just tell me.
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Yeah, so do a lot of people. Including me, when I'm on stock. This question hasn't been answered, and if you know the answer, please just tell me.
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Or, better yet.. tell "us"
I've been pulling my hair out searching xda, other forums, google etc for answers to why i'm getting poor battery performance with a rom with virtually no use vrs 17+ hours on stock with moderate use.
I use juice defender, and nothing else and "cell standby" and "phone idle" are the two biggest issues killing my phone right now. 25% down in just 5 hours, and i've not used my phone for one thing except a quick 1 minute call - radio's are off except to check email once an hour. It's ridiculous.
Once search is working, this should help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?do=finduser&u=4394011
quick question, do u guys give custom roms a few charge cycles (aka days) before u judge battery life. The best I've ever gotten was 24 hours with 4 hours on screen time with gb based tpc v3, heavily customized. That being said the first two days I wuz getting less than 10 hours... just sayin
p.s. that wuz without the use of crap apps like juice defender
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quick question, do u guys give custom roms a few charge cycles (aka days) before u judge battery life. The best I've ever gotten was 24 hours with 4 hours on screen time with gb based tpc v3, heavily customized. That being said the first two days I wuz getting less than 10 hours... just sayin
p.s. that wuz without the use of crap apps like juice defender
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Nope.
This very issue was brought up in my last thread asking for help. I didn't know JD would be making things worse, or that it would take a few days for things to settle out.
Now that I know these things are normal, like getting 10 hours for a few days i feel a little better about the situation.
Nope, I flash a new nightly almost every day, and I still get 18-20 hours that day without a problem. If your phone isn't deep sleeping when idle, it's chewing battery, this is the most common battery drain problem that I've seen.
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quick question, do u guys give custom roms a few charge cycles (aka days) before u judge battery life. The best I've ever gotten was 24 hours with 4 hours on screen time with gb based tpc v3, heavily customized. That being said the first two days I wuz getting less than 10 hours... just sayin
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I have given it a few days in the past and for sure it makes a difference, but at this point I can tell right away if it's not working right. The battery life is literally like 30% of what it should be, I can just watch the numbers tick down.
The dead giveaway is that it loses battery as fast in idle as when it's in use. Which says wakelock problem like others have said, but I don't know how to fix it.
I've also noticed performance is worse in CM9 than in UCLE2/UCLF3, and that seems counter-intuitive, but there might be some performance tweaks in the TouchWiz ROM that CM isn't incorporating.
I'm using a stock 2.3.6 with some tweaks.
I froze all the bloatware and services I don't use, NFC/VPN for example.
I use faux123 .10m kernel and underclocked to 192Mhz/1.02Ghz and undervolted by 50mv - http://faux.androidro.ms/sky-kernel-010m.zip
Flashed Rogers radio for unlocked RIL - http://www.m-s-j.net/skyrocket/Radio_RIL__I727RUXKJ7.zip
Set it for only 4G and no LTE via *#2263#* and choosing WCDMA 1700Mhz
I haven't payed attention to my battery time/display on but it is definitely better than stock.
Also, if you use the Facebook app, that seems to be the biggest battery drain between it syncing contacts and always GPSing when you open it.
SetCPU profile for incall,screen off,temperature,and or battery level(increments of ten)
Also freeze or disable unused services that use cpu resources
Set your screen brightness lower
screen timeout to 15 secounds or 30
If youre really having a big issue try disabling background data although you shouldnt go that far.
I've used stock GB and ICS and have had great results by turning off LTE and also disabling WiFi during sleep. I can get nearly two days on regular use, browsing, phone calls, emails and MP3 playback.
So after 3 days of testing apps, applying a kernel, setting CPU and more,
(CPU ondemand, Governor: SmartassV2, Kernel Cymbaline 1.5)
I still only getting the same battery life as before about 12 hours, I don't understand how some people are reporting 20 hrs on a single charge with moderate usage. I looked over the wake lock apps and none seem to be stopping deep sleep, unless I have like the music player on. I don't know what else to do, any ideas?
besides addition batterys or extended batterys. And please try to be as detailed with apps/settings as possible to achieve the amazingly 20hr mark on moderate use.
8ballhacker said:
So after 3 days of testing apps, applying a kernel, setting CPU and more,
(CPU ondemand, Governor: SmartassV2, Kernel Cymbaline 1.5)
I still only getting the same battery life as before about 12 hours, I don't understand how some people are reporting 20 hrs on a single charge with moderate usage. I looked over the wake lock apps and none seem to be stopping deep sleep, unless I have like the music player on. I don't know what else to do, any ideas?
besides addition batterys or extended batterys. And please try to be as detailed with apps/settings as possible to achieve the amazingly 20hr mark on moderate use.
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Its pretty much subjective as to what people say, everyone will have their own definition of light use. When I say light use I mean, check facebook, twitter, instagram, tapatalk, boom done. Medium use for me would be like browsing the web and maybe playing a quick game of diamond blast lol. Heavy use for me would be playing a game for an hour+, using GPS, watching youtube/video/movies etc... So it will really depend on use. I've been playing around with custom kernels and usually look for ones that has UV or undervolting, downclocking is also good and using an efficient governor, some are good with efficiency and doesnt use more than it needs, say I play a streaming program like pandora and it sticks to 192mhz rather than blasting to 1.5ghz etc... So each tweak will add up.
I was driving yesterday for about 3hr with gps on and was browsing the web a lot on LTE and it drained my battery and got maybe 9hr used that day. On a regular day with "light/mild" use I can get 20hr light 15hr mild 9-12hr gaming/browsing all day. Browsing also eats power when you're in an LTE area as it drains a little bit more. So really it depends on how much time you put into tweaks and know what you're using.
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Like this one for example, longest battery I had so far with very light use. Meaning I would only check for notifications and was barely on it for more than 10min at each time. Wifi was set to disconnect when it wasnt in use. And this was using an older version of SkyICS so no doubt its pretty good with battery life and doesn't drain a ton when on idle.
This was yesterdays pic, why was like 10%~/hr? I had GPS on the whole time and the radio was using LTE speeds so by the end of the afternoon/night I was already down to 5% battery life. And this is on CM9 with custom kernel but it was set to 192mhz/1.8ghz so yeah settings will make a big difference.
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Okay so I have always had bad battery, but this is a bit extreme.. I am using Suckerpunch build 40 and Serendipity and i am heavily undervolted. I got about 6 hours of moderate usage out of it today before it died. (some gps usage, browsing xda, 40 texts back and forth, internet browsing) I am using JK3 modem with HSUPA enabled.. but i feel like this battery drain is a bit excessive. Any ideas?
If it isn't an app that is polling too much or it isn't a low signal issue, then I could only blame the hardware for being defective. That combination, even with the 1400 overclock has yielded me easily over 24 hours with moderate usage. Even now, I have gone 6 hours with 80% remaining.
Okay, it's caused by one of three things as I see it. And I bet your issue is the 3rd reason.
1) Bad battery, get a new one, but probably not the issue
2) Applications going out over the network a lot, especially if you are usually in the worst area, where you barely get reception, but get a slight amount... this one is tricky because I am yet to find an application to map out how much network an individual application uses over time. Some will monitor which ones are going on the network and some will monitor total network, but not break it down over time per application.
3) A background system application, or user one, is using more CPU than it should and sucking your battery. I had this issue, and at it's worst I was getting only 2 hours of battery life. I finally realized my phone was running hot for no reason. Because of this observation, I got the best application I've found on the marketplace for this, SystemPanel (The paid version). I hate buying applications, but this one saved me money from getting a new battery/phone. System panel will monitor your phone for a given period of time and break down the top apps by CPU useage over the last so many hours (you choose). What I found was that a system process (kswapd0) was sucking 24% CPU. This doesn't mean it accounted for 24% of the application total useage, it means it account for 24% of the CPU useage, which is different because if total application useage is only 1% then 24% of 1% isn't bad. But, 24% of the CPU is. So, I reflashed and all problems were fixed. Battery life could go 36 hours or longer with little useage and ksawpd0 was down to around 1.4%. Later I had bad battery symptoms again, but not as bad (like yours 6 hours and dead), and I checked SystemPanel and guess what, kswapd0 was accounting for 6%. I had to flash again. It's fixed again, not sure why kswapd0 does this, but
What I guess I'm trying to say is get SystemPanel and find out why your battery is dying. It also graph's the phone's drain. Look at the slope of that graph and see if it's extreme. Time when you are using it for internet should be really bad, but the idle time shouldn't be. I get around 36 hours idle time like I said, and if I were to just play robodefense or use the internet non stop I'd probably only get 2 hours of constant useage.
You might have wifi enabled all the time? If you have wifi on when your not connected to a wifi network it drains your battery like no tomorrow.
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Seems like the system process idea might be my problem, because i know that wifi is not on, i usually disable it or juicedefender does it for me. I'll go through my normal day of light usage and then post a picture of my battery snap graph. If it isn't better by a run through again today then i will probably reflash like you suggested.
Calibrate.. Charge up to full.. Boot recovery delete bat stat.. Unplug ...discharge.. While off charge up to 100 ..then use
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Poor signal is another culprit, especially when using non-captivate modems.... this will cause rapid battery drain. I had one location where my phone would only last 8 hours with no use, because of signal.
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Calibrate.. Charge up to full.. Boot recovery delete bat stat.. Unplug ...discharge.. While off charge up to 100 ..then use
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Already been done dozens of times.
hamburgertrain said:
Seems like the system process idea might be my problem, because i know that wifi is not on, i usually disable it or juicedefender does it for me. I'll go through my normal day of light usage and then post a picture of my battery snap graph. If it isn't better by a run through again today then i will probably reflash like you suggested.
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Let me know your results!
Try changing the ROM/Kernel combo. All kernels don't go good on all hardwares.
Yes I'm also eager to know what you find, as I am on the latest Phoenix with Firebird 0.8 and JL3 or 4 not sure which.. My battery life just plain sucks, will be getting that app now to monitor.. Anyway let us know what you find asap!
By chance have you tried a different battery. If memory serves me correct, some captivates were shipped wit a bad battery, and they were being replaced under warranty. Just another troubleshooting step.
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I'm also experiencing some bad drain on suckerpunch #40 with di1igaf's stripped 5.6 rom.
after flashing, restoring all my apps, syncing my google account, and setting an undervolt, I let my phone idle for 2 hours. over those 2 hours I lost only 1% of battery- I was so excited! this was the best battery performance I'd ever had.
then, I left the phone unplugged overnight and I lost over 20% in 8 hours. I have no idea what happened!
I have been using watchdog lite to monitor processes- the only thing that is using up any CPU is "android system" which is usually taking up about 10% of my total cpu- does that sound normal?
I thought this might be a problem with the flash so I re-flashed but the issue persists. I have been using the same app/widget setup for a few months now with several different ROM/kernel combos and have never experienced this kind of battery drain. Not really sure what to do at this point...
(edit- I have wifi set to sleep with the screen off so this shouldn't be the issue and I flashed from 100% battery and cleared the battery stats)
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I'm also experiencing some bad drain on suckerpunch #40 with di1igaf's stripped 5.6 rom.
after flashing, restoring all my apps, syncing my google account, and setting an undervolt, I let my phone idle for 2 hours. over those 2 hours I lost only 1% of battery- I was so excited! this was the best battery performance I'd ever had.
then, I left the phone unplugged overnight and I lost over 20% in 8 hours. I have no idea what happened!
I have been using watchdog lite to monitor processes- the only thing that is using up any CPU is "android system" which is usually taking up about 10% of my total cpu- does that sound normal?
I thought this might be a problem with the flash so I re-flashed but the issue persists. I have been using the same app/widget setup for a few months now with several different ROM/kernel combos and have never experienced this kind of battery drain. Not really sure what to do at this point...
(edit- I have wifi set to sleep with the screen off so this shouldn't be the issue and I flashed from 100% battery and cleared the battery stats)
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I had the same issue with that kernel. All kernels may not go well with all hardware. U cud try the kernel I have in my signature. A couple more folks tried the same, and are happy with battery. Idle drain (overnight, with wifi turned off) is about 4% per 7-8 hours of sleep time. ROMs too are known to drain, but in this case, I would strongly recommend trying out kernels.
After battery calibration, I would strongly recommend atleast 2-3 full charge cycles becoming coming to a conclusion that battery drain is high.
thanks for the advice. i will go through another 2 or 3 cycles, then I think I will try the speedmod kernel as I have had success with that in the past. if i'm still having issues I will definitely give that new xcal kernel a try.
the weird thing is the drain seems to be going up and down. right after I flashed, I was losing about 1% per 2 hours. then overnight it was over 3% per hour. this morning it was more like 1% per hour, but now it is speeding up again.
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thanks for the advice. i will go through another 2 or 3 cycles, then I think I will try the speedmod kernel as I have had success with that in the past. if i'm still having issues I will definitely give that new xcal kernel a try.
the weird thing is the drain seems to be going up and down. right after I flashed, I was losing about 1% per 2 hours. then overnight it was over 3% per hour. this morning it was more like 1% per hour, but now it is speeding up again.
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Speedmod didn't go well with my hardware. I have more drain using speedmod than I have on xcal.
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Try changing the ROM/Kernel combo. All kernels don't go good on all hardwares.
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I've tried everything: JK3, ZNKP1, JK4, JL2, JL3.... znkp1 gave me the worst battery honestly, JK3, JK4 or JL2 were the best.
I think I'm going to accept my less than a days worth of battery and carry around a spare with me. Any way here's my usage yesterday. some light usage in the morning (pre 720 am) with idle the rest of the day until 210 pm
Ok i found out my battery stats are resetting at least every boot. Would this be detrimental to battery life?
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For good battery life, I recommend using Precsion Rom 1.01 with Speedmod' kernel. I am getting amazing battery life with it After 2d 5h 10m 25s, I am still at 27% battery life.
Hey guys,
Just wanted to share a few things I stumbled upon recently. The first thing we usually notice is really crappy battery life when we flash a new rom. I tried using a bunch of stuff like juice defender etc. I recently used the MIUI rom and then came back to dexters 1.3. Anyways this time I used a small app called Battery Calibration. Basically what it does is delete the batterystats.bin which is generated by each ROM. Charge till hundred, use the app and then discharge completely once. Then recharge the second time. I noticed a 200% increase in battery life on dexters. I dont use my phone alot but this was with around 1 hour talk, 2-3 hrs one and off browsing, 30-40 texts, a few photo's etc. It lasted 1 d 14 hrs when usually itd last around 20 hours. So you guys can give it a try.
Another thing, juice defender works by toggling the data connection. Now I use Edge as mobile data and wifi at home. I realized my battery lasts as long as if not more than with juice defender. Ive come up with a theory, that apps which disable the connection takes more juice because with every screen on the radio has to search for the network, wifi signal and then connect to it. Leaving my data on all the time, or wifi on all the time does nothing at all to the battery in the idle state. It only uses juice when there is data transfer. I left my wifi on all day with autosync off and it cost me 2% juice. Anyways give these tips a try. Worked for me well.
Calibrate your batteries after each flash and dont use any third party monitoring apps. And set your wifi to sleep with the screen, tell me how it works out for you!
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Hey guys,
Just wanted to share a few things I stumbled upon recently. The first thing we usually notice is really crappy battery life when we flash a new rom. I tried using a bunch of stuff like juice defender etc. I recently used the MIUI rom and then came back to dexters 1.3. Anyways this time I used a small app called Battery Calibration. Basically what it does is delete the batterystats.bin which is generated by each ROM. Charge till hundred, use the app and then discharge completely once. Then recharge the second time. I noticed a 200% increase in battery life on dexters. I dont use my phone alot but this was with around 1 hour talk, 2-3 hrs one and off browsing, 30-40 texts, a few photo's etc. It lasted 1 d 14 hrs when usually itd last around 20 hours. So you guys can give it a try.
Another thing, juice defender works by toggling the data connection. Now I use Edge as mobile data and wifi at home. I realized my battery lasts as long as if not more than with juice defender. Ive come up with a theory, that apps which disable the connection takes more juice because with every screen on the radio has to search for the network, wifi signal and then connect to it. Leaving my data on all the time, or wifi on all the time does nothing at all to the battery in the idle state. It only uses juice when there is data transfer. I left my wifi on all day with autosync off and it cost me 2% juice. Anyways give these tips a try. Worked for me well.
Calibrate your batteries after each flash and dont use any third party monitoring apps. And set your wifi to sleep with the screen, tell me how it works out for you!
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I use both those actually 3rdstring turned me on the to Battery Calibrator, but I purchased the Juice Defender Plus b/c it has the ability to customize its toggle for each individual app. Enable, Enable/screen off (good for online music or something like that b/c your screen eats battery and is chief in temperature hikes), Disable or Do Nothing. Their is a Juice Defender Ultimate, but has a lot of things that XT720 doesn't use or need like 4g toggle and stuff like that.
The makers of Juice Defender have another app called Juice Plotter that shows you battery use. Was useful for a week or so but it is another service that is running in the background all the time so I uninstalled it.
There is a nice monitor app that I have had since day one called Battstats and it is a simple widget that has a low memory footprint when running in the background but it show the charge %, Volts (4.2 +/- is full charge) and temperature (c/f). Small 1x1 widget so it doesn't eat a whole lot of memory and I have found that it is fairly accurate.
One last thing is if you are overclocking, make sure that it is set right or you will eat more battery than it is worth, not too mention stability issues. If you set the vsels too low, the phone will reboot now and then on its own. If you set it too high, then it eats unnecessary battery. I have mine at 1100/ 74 and is totally stable. Volts might be a little high, but it works for me. Depends on what you want though b/c overclocking makes you phone faster but kills battery power. Underclocking slows things down but uses less battery. SetCPU can set up profiles for this.
One last thing is if you are overclocking, make sure that it is set right or you will eat more battery than it is worth, not too mention stability issues. If you set the vsels too low, the phone will reboot now and then on its own. If you set it too high, then it eats unnecessary battery. I have mine at 1100/ 74 and is totally stable. Volts might be a little high, but it works for me. Depends on what you want though b/c overclocking makes you phone faster but kills battery power. Underclocking slows things down but uses less battery. SetCPU can set up profiles for this.[/QUOTE]
Hi while i caught you talking about setcpu profiles I was trying to set mine up last night and not really sure of the best way. Can you show a screenshot of your's if you don't mind or give some advice? I'm running Miui overclocked at 1200/80 and its been super stable. Here is what I came up with...
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hmm.. i tried battery calibration with your method several times and my battery life can never reach what it has before rooting. It could last 80 hours typically on standby mode. But after installing khals or dexters or 2.1 strike backs or miui, or even restoring my old rom, my standby duration never lasts more than 60 hours. Only thing i look forward to now is Cincinnati bells update or beta5 miui
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Thanks bud, looks good. I found this Overclock 101 seems pretty helpful
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/rescue-squad-guides/47871-overclocking-101-a.html#post507815
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hmm.. i tried battery calibration with your method several times and my battery life can never reach what it has before rooting. It could last 80 hours typically on standby mode. But after installing khals or dexters or 2.1 strike backs or miui, or even restoring my old rom, my standby duration never lasts more than 60 hours. Only thing i look forward to now is Cincinnati bells update or beta5 miui
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You need to discharge it once completely till it turns off itself. Did you do that? First charge till 100, then use the calibration, then discharge completely doing your normal stuff. Then completely recharge Im sure youll notice a change. I did
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Hey 3rdstring. I had my setcpu settings like that before I stopped using it. The reason was when you set it low at screen off and you get a call it lags real bad. Like when you are trying to accept the call by swiping the lock to the right its lagging, even the ringer skips abit. I also noticed with the cpu set low to 250 the phone has trouble finding antennae and signals. I've seen no increase in battery life with either set cpu or juice defender. Does this happen to you?
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Hey 3rdstring. I had my setcpu settings like that before I stopped using it. The reason was when you set it low at screen off and you get a call it lags real bad. Like when you are trying to accept the call by swiping the lock to the right its lagging, even the ringer skips abit. I also noticed with the cpu set low to 250 the phone has trouble finding antennae and signals. I've seen no increase in battery life with either set cpu or juice defender. Does this happen to you?
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What are your cpu settings bud? I just redid mine for now and i will see how it does. I'm running 1200mhz really stable for about 2 weeks now on miui without setcpu. I just noticed also in settings/system/about phone it has my phone model listed as Nexus S, I was wondering if that is what it's supposed to be running MiuiV3. I think it's messing with my setting options in setcpu.
My settings...
sohrab.naushad said:
You need to discharge it once completely till it turns off itself. Did you do that? First charge till 100, then use the calibration, then discharge completely doing your normal stuff. Then completely recharge Im sure youll notice a change. I did
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yea tried but didnt notice any difference. maybe will try again on miui beta5 when its out :S
Battery calibration brick
Tried the battery calibration on my nieces phone today, Let it drain all the way then oh **** wouldn't turn on or charge. She wasn't too happy with it lmao. I told her to take the battery out for at least an hour and try again and it worked. Luckily for me! lol.
hotroddy said:
Tried the battery calibration on my nieces phone today, Let it drain all the way then oh **** wouldn't turn on or charge. She wasn't too happy with it lmao. I told her to take the battery out for at least an hour and try again and it worked. Luckily for me! lol.
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Lol, sorry it isnt working for you guys. One thing though when it completely discharges it takes a lil time for it to have enough juice to turn on. So it not like the battery got screwed on anything. Im still getting a battery life of 1.5 days when before It was extremely bad like 20 hours.
I have tried just about EVERY ROM. And I still am only getting around 6 hours of battery life. Is it the ROM, the dumbass user (me), or something else. I keep hearing the fantasy stories of people getting 15 hours on battery while using the phone all day long. Can someone point me in the right direction as far as ROM / Kernel combo that truly does this? Currently on the latest CM7 Nightly and don't like it at all.
I've been having the same problem lol. I'm currently on MIUI 1.9.23 and using Trinity ELP kernel.
I've had it on for about 6 hours and I'm down to 65%. I mean it's not terrible, but considering the phone was in airplane mode for 1.5 hours of that 6 hours, essentially the phone has really only truly been on for 4.5 hours. so I'm losing about 9%/hour.
I've literally tried everything I can to increase battery life but it just won't happen. Let me know if you figure anything out.
Hey you know I have had this phone for about a week, and I have tried all these roms on here and to be honest, the only one that does what I need it to do is the tweaked OTA version. As long as I have root and rom manager I am good. My Battery on any device does not last as long people say. So many things have to be considered. Like whether i am moving into 2g networks or how much i am using it.
The best thing for a battery though is to over charge it for an extra bit and then reset the stats. After dont recharge till it turns off by itself. Then do another over charge.
So by overcharging you mean leave it plugged in even after it says unplug it to conserve battery life
Yeah, when its plugged in it will charge continually and making sure its really fully charged.
I noticed this with my Milestone2, it would say done charging and it wouldnt last very long. So I read up on Battery charging and it said you should leave it charged for an extra hour or so. Only when trying to reach full battery stats.
Of course its ok to use it whenever but once in a while you should do a full drain and then full charge
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Plus, most of the people prob on here and doing everything under the sun to thier phones to tweak them. That could be a big reason why the batteries arent lasting so long.
Today I went through 3 different rom changes while at work (3 hours). After finally getting it back to where I was before work, my battery was at 23 percent!
Buy an extended battery off ebay or amazon for around 9-12$ Stock battery i can sometimes get about 12 hours depending on what i use my phone that day. But those 3500mah batteries should at least get you 18-24hrs for sure. Just make sure you cycle thru the battery a few times so it can start performing it's best.
Just put the Miui Rom on. Noiw am getting hang ups in Market on Wifi. I go to download something and it just sits there at starting download Any thought on how I can remedy this issue?
Arrgh...would have been nice if T-Mo and LG had put a working product out to begin with LOL!
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I have tried just about EVERY ROM. And I still am only getting around 6 hours of battery life. Is it the ROM, the dumbass user (me), or something else. I keep hearing the fantasy stories of people getting 15 hours on battery while using the phone all day long. Can someone point me in the right direction as far as ROM / Kernel combo that truly does this? Currently on the latest CM7 Nightly and don't like it at all.
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It would be helpful to see your battery usage screen. I'll paste mine below. I'm also on CM7 (recent nightly) and I get good battery life IMO. Right now I'm at 8+ hours and I still have 76% left, but I've been at work all day so I've only used it for a few texts and calls and some brief web browsing. Typically I'm a very heavy user, always on, and with the stock battery and that kind of usage I only get 5-6 hours. I have a 4500mah battery and with that I can get up to 2 days of my normal heavy usage with that battery. It just looks like a brick and some people don't like that.
Are you a very heavy user? If so and your phone is constantly on then 6 hours may be all you can get. I think some of the claims people make are a bit misleading because there are so many factors that will influence your battery life.
Here's my screenshot.
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I've been having the same problem lol. I'm currently on MIUI 1.9.23 and using Trinity ELP kernel.
I've had it on for about 6 hours and I'm down to 65%. I mean it's not terrible, but considering the phone was in airplane mode for 1.5 hours of that 6 hours, essentially the phone has really only truly been on for 4.5 hours. so I'm losing about 9%/hour.
I've literally tried everything I can to increase battery life but it just won't happen. Let me know if you figure anything out.
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You should give miui another go with stock kernel and setcpu screen off profile, i get pretty good life.
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Disable bluetooth, disable GPS, and turn the screen brightness to 0% lol
@ phBurks, I am a very heavy user, Constantly relying on GPS as well as phone and mail since I am on the road all day long. I was hoping for better battery life. May have to get one of those extended batteries mentioned above.
@fcisco13 I'll give Miui another go. Where do I get setcpu? If its in the market I am hosed LOL. Market is hanging up on me all of the time.
And I cannot see any of my APN settings no matter what ROM I use.
Based on my own person experience the only way to get +8hrs is if I'm on WiFi. On cellular....forget it.
Minimum for me on MIUI is 12 hours... With a good amount of usage, and HSPA+... I use SetCPU though, it helps alot. Best application for saving battery life IMO.
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@ phBurks, I am a very heavy user, Constantly relying on GPS as well as phone and mail since I am on the road all day long. I was hoping for better battery life. May have to get one of those extended batteries mentioned above.
@fcisco13 I'll give Miui another go. Where do I get setcpu? If its in the market I am hosed LOL. Market is hanging up on me all of the time.
And I cannot see any of my APN settings no matter what ROM I use.
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You may be able to squeeze out a couple more hours if you use setcpu (from the Market lol). My suggestion though, if you're that heavy of a user, is you'll either need to keep your phone charging in the car (make sure you have at least a 1amp charger ... I use a 2amp charger in my car to make sure its charging at its max rate), or buy an extended life battery. I recommend the extended battery. There's a 3500mah one over in the accessories section that's pretty cheap and sounds like it works pretty well. I have the 4500mah one from Mugen Power. Its a little more costly but it also lasts a few hours longer than the 3500mah one.
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
I use SetCPU though, it helps alot. Best application for saving battery life IMO.
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+1 Especially if your kernel supports undervolting, i can successfully uv -100 up to 1100mhz, i rarely need to go over that speed anyways and know i can get a crazy high quadrant score if i overclocked anyways. Settings i have righ tnow for setcpu are:
222mhz - 100 uv
up to 819mhz -100uv
Gets me easily 6-10hrs with lots of usageon stock battery.
It varies. I find that using a CM7 cooked ROM have terrible battery life. I'm sorry, just from my personal experience. Only other app that kills the battery is the GPS.
A Stock Cooked ROM gave me fantastic battery life. But.... its stock, and some things in Stock just can't stand. Also, had random reboots. Maybe I messed around with too much crap in my SD Card. Who knows. If I really wanted to, I could make a ROM stable on my phone. But just can't stand the Stock ROM.
Stock 2.3.3 = 15 hours moderate use
CM 2.3.5 = 8 hours moderate use
Regardless, if you want a long lasting battery, don't get an android. No phone is perfect. Only my battery extender 3500mha but I end up with a PHAT Phone. Plus its not protected by my rubber case.
Thats the only reason I don't use the battery extender.
After completely wiping my phone and installing whitehawkx celebration MIUI 1.9.23 I get awesome battery life. I think before since you had to "hack" 3G to get it working on whitehawkx MIUI was why it wasn't working great.
I'm on the whitehawkx kernel that comes with miui, whichever one that is. I'm going to give trinity a try. Then again, I have no apps installed except for facebook with notifications off and auto-sync off. But good news is my phone is not constantly awake now.
mahgninnuc93 said:
@ phBurks, I am a very heavy user, Constantly relying on GPS as well as phone and mail since I am on the road all day long. I was hoping for better battery life. May have to get one of those extended batteries mentioned above.
@fcisco13 I'll give Miui another go. Where do I get setcpu? If its in the market I am hosed LOL. Market is hanging up on me all of the time.
And I cannot see any of my APN settings no matter what ROM I use.
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Here you go, setcpu free for xda members, thank the author and donate if you can.
http://tinyurl.com/yd99xfj
mahgninnuc93 said:
I have tried just about EVERY ROM. And I still am only getting around 6 hours of battery life. Is it the ROM, the dumbass user (me), or something else. I keep hearing the fantasy stories of people getting 15 hours on battery while using the phone all day long. Can someone point me in the right direction as far as ROM / Kernel combo that truly does this? Currently on the latest CM7 Nightly and don't like it at all.
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Give Eagleblood 2.3.3 1.07 a try, good battery life with its own kernel. I tried with Faux GB kernel gave me random SOD, and reboot, also took way too long to boot too.
barqers said:
After completely wiping my phone and installing whitehawkx celebration MIUI 1.9.23 I get awesome battery life. I think before since you had to "hack" 3G to get it working on whitehawkx MIUI was why it wasn't working great.
I'm on the whitehawkx kernel that comes with miui, whichever one that is. I'm going to give trinity a try. Then again, I have no apps installed except for facebook with notifications off and auto-sync off. But good news is my phone is not constantly awake now.
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Just installed this ROM. Will report back later what the results are. So far so good.
Does anyone know of a good clock / weather widget that doesn't use too much battery life?
I bought a used G2x in December 2011 and had okay battery life on the stock ROM. In January I started modding the phone with the Hell Phoenix and later Hellfire Sandwich ROMs. One day my phone started getting really hot and from that point on my battery life got worse and worse until it would only last a few hours. I ordered an 3500mAh extended battery from eBay, but it only increased the stamina of the phone to about 5 hours.
Since I never got a receipt from the previous user I had no warranty. However, I called LG and agreed to have the phone repaired for a fee that would not exceed $100 - they said it would cost between $40 and $100.
Fast forward 10 days and I received my phone back with a "replaced chipset" as it said on the note. And LG was nice enough to not charge me for the repair - kudos to LG!
I noticed that the phone was not getting hot or even warm anymore so I charged the 3500mAh battery to see how long it would last.
Unplugging the phone from the charger Thursday morning just before 8AM I used the phone as usual (light/medium use, but everything except BT enabled) all day Thursday, Friday and Saturday until the phone finally died Sunday morning at 2AM. Yes, that's 66 hours!!!
I'm still flabbergasted that this was possible, especially because I used the phone as usual and made several calls each day.
I'll try to attach a screenshot of the battery use. It was made at the time I went to bed Saturday night so it's not the full 66 hours.
Has anyone else ever gotten results like this or even higher?
Android version: Stock 2.3.3
Kernel: 2.6.32.9
Battery: eBay item 180721306295 from "bridge_wireless" $9 including shipping
Get Juice Defender Plus, it'll toggle your wifi automatically and save even more battery life.
Light usage (sending maybe a hundred texts and a couple web pages loaded) will easily get me through the weekend.
Using Faux DS Kernel and stock battery.
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Get Juice Defender Plus, it'll toggle your wifi automatically and save even more battery life.
Light usage (sending maybe a hundred texts and a couple web pages loaded) will easily get me through the weekend.
Using Faux DS Kernel and stock battery.
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I tried Juice Defender Plus and Faux DS kernel in January but never got any amazing results, but maybe my phone wasn't that healthy back then. Also, I didn't do anything to save battery life during the 66 hour test other than setting the screen brightness to "Auto". I also made several phone calls - as far as I remember it was about one hour and thirty minutes in total.
This really makes me wonder how long I can get in "power-saver" mode (dim, wifi off, 2G, Juice Defender, Faux DS) with the 3500mAh battery. Has anyone tried this?
I would be happy with 12 hours of light/normal use.
Im using the trinity kernel. SetCPU,Juice defender, auto dim screen, Wefi plus,
the only thing that syncs often is facebook on the hour.
and I cant make it 8 hours on one charge.
I rarely use the phone for calls mostly use text for work and friends.
facebook & web through out the day. if i let the phone sit and dont touch it the battery will last all day
I know I am no "light" user. I bought the damn phone to USE it. but I wouldn't say I am always a heavy user. I dont expect to stream for 8 hours but it would be nice If i could listen to the stern show,check Email,facebook,Web & text and only need to charge once halfway through the day then again overnight
Most I've gotten was like 22 hours! -___-
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I am definitely a HEAVY user and get around 16-18 hours on a charge. Constantly have Wi-Fi on, sometimes mobile data, gaming such as Temple Run and Angry Birds, and atleast half the time listening to music through PowerAmp. Constant texting, and maybe about 20-30 minutes of calling.
Also, when your cell standby surpasses your display usage, it shows you aren't really using your phone.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
PhilipCourtois said:
Fast forward 10 days and I received my phone back with a "replaced chipset" as it said on the note. And LG was nice enough to not charge me for the repair - kudos to LG!
I noticed that the phone was not getting hot or even warm anymore so I charged the 3500mAh battery to see how long it would last.
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Have you popped open the phone to look at the board?
Just curious if there's any variation. Screened on revision number, etc.
PhilipCourtois said:
I bought a used G2x in December 2011 and had okay battery life on the stock ROM. In January I started modding the phone with the Hell Phoenix and later Hellfire Sandwich ROMs. One day my phone started getting really hot and from that point on my battery life got worse and worse until it would only last a few hours. I ordered an 3500mAh extended battery from eBay, but it only increased the stamina of the phone to about 5 hours.
Since I never got a receipt from the previous user I had no warranty. However, I called LG and agreed to have the phone repaired for a fee that would not exceed $100 - they said it would cost between $40 and $100.
Fast forward 10 days and I received my phone back with a "replaced chipset" as it said on the note. And LG was nice enough to not charge me for the repair - kudos to LG!
I noticed that the phone was not getting hot or even warm anymore so I charged the 3500mAh battery to see how long it would last.
Unplugging the phone from the charger Thursday morning just before 8AM I used the phone as usual (light/medium use, but everything except BT enabled) all day Thursday, Friday and Saturday until the phone finally died Sunday morning at 2AM. Yes, that's 66 hours!!!
I'm still flabbergasted that this was possible, especially because I used the phone as usual and made several calls each day.
I'll try to attach a screenshot of the battery use. It was made at the time I went to bed Saturday night so it's not the full 66 hours.
Has anyone else ever gotten results like this or even higher?
Android version: Stock 2.3.3
Kernel: 2.6.32.9
Battery: eBay item 180721306295 from "bridge_wireless" $9 including shipping
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What is your screen on/display time?
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...Also, when your cell standby surpasses your display usage, it shows you aren't really using your phone...
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I'm not sure what you're trying to get at . As I said I used the phone as I normally do without any "battery saver" methods in place. I never claimed any heavy use during this test.
It'll be fun to try going in "battery saver" mode with the same battery and see if it'll last a week... Well - for ME it would be fun!
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What is your screen on/display time?
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Not sure - I should have recorded that... Next time I will!
PhilipCourtois said:
I'm not sure what you're trying to get at . As I said I used the phone as I normally do without any "battery saver" methods in place. I never claimed any heavy use during this test.
It'll be fun to try going in "battery saver" mode with the same battery and see if it'll last a week... Well - for ME it would be fun!
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Well if I barely used my phone and mostly used it to check the time, I'd be surprised if it didn't last 3 days.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
theking_13 said:
Well if I barely used my phone and mostly used it to check the time, I'd be surprised if it didn't last 3 days.
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How fantastic - and thanks for the great constructive feedback! I love the warm feeling of knowing that the time I spend sharing my knowledge is appreciated without disbelief.
Really, I don't want to waste my time if you can't read. Just wanted to share my battery experience with stock 2.3.3, non-power saver configuration under normal phone use. And my idea of normal phone use is NOT just checking the time like you say. Compared to my experience when I originally got the phone I'm now getting way better battery life. I believe that the spread in battery performance is wide and far too many people settle with 4-6 hours of use before recharging with the reasoning that it's a dual-core phone and therefore swallows power as was it Gatorade. If I'm wrong and everyone knows that the G2X can go days on a charge then sorry that I brought it up.
Well when your display usage doesn't even show up, yet your cell standby and phone idle are at the top of the list, this means YOU ARENT USING YOUR PHONE. Any way you want to play this out, its not surprising that you get so much life out of your phone since its usually used as a fancy paperweight.
Maybe have your display usage on par with cell standby, then come show off amazing battery life.
Also, the 4-6 hours of life is most common on stock Froyo/GB. Not an issue anymore with custom roms.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
Guys, c'mon. You're not even talking about the same thing as each other. A debate is completely pointless.
theking_13 says you're not using your phone enough for the 66h to be that impressive.
PhilipCourtois says he wasn't bragging about how amazing his battery is, but just stating how much of an improvement it was over the stock experience.
Both of you are right. Philip is in fact not a very heavy user, so a longer life for a battery isn't completely surprising. However, phone idle accounts for 21%, whereas everything else accounts for 79%, which is by no means at all "a fancy paperweight". You can even see that the apps that were used account for 39% of the usage at that point, which is more than the cell standby. Furthermore, judging by the graph statistics, the phone was turned on relatively frequently.
Now for something on topic: I'd be interested in seeing someone do a proper test on a 3500mAh battery. Something along the lines of charging it up to 100%, leaving the screen on at 100%, settings both min and max CPU clock speeds to >1000MHz, and doing whatever else you would normally do on your phone in addition to that. Then posting a screenshot of how long that would last them. I predict somewhere along the lines of 9-12h, but it'd still be more informative than a lot of the reviews here. Not to say that the reviews here are unhelpful of bad, because they are very much so helpful.
Good point, but the app usage on GB is extremely inaccurate. I have had my phone on for 3 hours, 27% usage by cell standby, and I played Draw Something for two minutes, and it shows up as using 17% already? ICS graphs on the other hand, are more accurate.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
Hey, you said you get >16h and you're a heavy user. Now I'm not doubting that in any way, but I'm using the same ROM as you, as well as the ELP kernel, which not only is optimized for EB, but is also supposed to be a battery saving kernel. However I get probably around 12h on medium usage. I've tried the faux kernel, and it did give better battery life than the T15 Trinity kernel, but on ELP my device lasted longer (T15 < Faux OC/UV < ELP for me, in other words).
Anyway, my question is did that Anker battery give you far more life over your stock battery, or is your device just lucky when it comes to battery usage? An extra 50mAh is barely anything, but you did mention in another thread that it runs cooler. From personal experience, my phone battery drains faster when it's warmer, so maybe that's it?
I'm really just curious because I've been messing around with battery saving techniques/phone accessories these past few weeks, and I just seem stuck in that 10-14h range on medium (maybe even medium-light by your standards) usage.
My highest is 8 hours. WTF
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How much do you use your phone in those <8 hours? I have moments when I don't touch my phone for hours, and generally I go down at about 2%/h when on standby. So if you ignored those, I'd probably be in the same boat as you.
For example, this is me today:
As you could probably tell, I haven't exactly used my phone a lot today, so I'm at 47% after 11h. However, I tested my battery this weekend by setting my screen brightness to 100%, screen timeout to never, and CPU min/max to 1100MHz/1100MHz. These were the results:
As you can see, my battery didn't even make it to 4h, so it really depends on how you use your phone.
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Guys, c'mon. You're not even talking about the same thing as each other. A debate is completely pointless...
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You're right. I never wanted to start a debate - all I wanted was to shed light on the fact that battery life of the G2X can be fantastic - even on stock GB - with the simple upgrade to a 3500mAh, cheap ($9) battery. Before I had the chipset replaced, the phone did NOT last very long and from everything I read on the forums, crappy battery life should be expected if not flashing a custom ROM with battery saver kernel. I'm just saying that that's not true for every phone.
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PhilipCourtois says he wasn't bragging about how amazing his battery is, but just stating how much of an improvement it was over the stock experience.
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If by "stock experience" you mean the condition I bought the phone in - then yes. But by my standards, the phone is now in as close to a stock condition as you can get - all I did was put in the larger battery. It's running stock GB 2.3.3 with all the T-Mobile bloatware still on it, Google+ on, data sync on, WiFi, 4G etc. on and screen on auto. And I really doubt that LG put in a "special", fantastic chipset when I sent it in for a repair.
Anyway, it seems a real enlightening discussion is on the way once we really start comparing use versus battery life and see that our phones differ dramatically in this regard.
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Hey, you said you get >16h and you're a heavy user. Now I'm not doubting that in any way, but I'm using the same ROM as you, as well as the ELP kernel, which not only is optimized for EB, but is also supposed to be a battery saving kernel. However I get probably around 12h on medium usage. I've tried the faux kernel, and it did give better battery life than the T15 Trinity kernel, but on ELP my device lasted longer (T15 < Faux OC/UV < ELP for me, in other words).
Anyway, my question is did that Anker battery give you far more life over your stock battery, or is your device just lucky when it comes to battery usage? An extra 50mAh is barely anything, but you did mention in another thread that it runs cooler. From personal experience, my phone battery drains faster when it's warmer, so maybe that's it?
I'm really just curious because I've been messing around with battery saving techniques/phone accessories these past few weeks, and I just seem stuck in that 10-14h range on medium (maybe even medium-light by your standards) usage.
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Well I'll tell you everything I did in a sec. But the battery helped maybe 20 minutes, but it is a new battery, so its going to get better results than one that is say 9 months. If it was a brand new LG battery, I'd get the same results.
Now onto what I've done to get this much. First of all, I use EaglesBlood rom and Faux's v0.48 kernel, CM Driver, not DS. I use Wi-Fi constantly, say for about 3-5 hours of the 16 hours that its used. For the most part, I have the network set to only connect to EDGE, not UMTS or HSPA. So 2G for most of the day. Then on the way home, I use 4G for around 30 minutes to an hour, and thats what kills my battery like there's no tomorrow.
Some other things I've done are replaced the Gallery app (supposedly uses battery all the time scanning for files) and use QuickPic instead. Replaced the stock Browser with Dolphin Browser and not only is it smoother, but it doesn't run in the background after I've closed it. Also, turned off logging for the SU app, turned off notifications for Facebook, Play Store, Words with Friends, Scramble with Friends, and auto synching for my Google accounts. Basically turned off background notifications for all apps except Pulse (news app) and Voxer (walkie talkie app).
Lastly, I have my CPU set to 216-816 MHz all the time, unless I play a game and whatnot. I notice no lag whatsoever while playing music and texting/on XDA/ browsing Pulse/etc. I undervolted -25mv across the board, even after what was already lowered through Faux's kernel. Ill post a screen shot so you know what they are. I found if I lowered them more, I'd get reboots sometimes when turning on Wi-fi.
If you have any questions, reply here or PM me. I'll be happy to help.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
Hey guys.. I'm new here and I plan to stick around..
I just bought a used (for 1 year) Galaxy SL from my friend at a throwaway price. It's in superb condition and everything. Its been a few days, and here's the stuff I've done till now -
1. Immediately upgraded to DDLF2 (India) using Kies. Found some bugs after upgrade. For example, the promised "Video Snapshot" feature wasn't there. Also, the phone rebooted randomly many times in the day and battery ran out quickly (after about 3-4 hrs of moderate usage)
2. Next day, after noticing the weirdness, I decided to flash a custom rom. I heard from many, many sources that Frankenstain Mod and the Bam kernel, along with DDLF2, are the perfect combination for stable performance, nice looks and great battery life. So, following some instructions, I rooted my phone and flashed the rom and kernel. I was (am) REALLY impressed with the final result. I went ahead and installed apps, played games, showed off etc etc..
But sadly, the battery problem still remains. Of course, it has definitely improved a little, but the maximum it can stand till now is abt 6 hours (light-moderate use). Adding to the misery, I am a heavy user. I love playing games, composing music and sometimes doing homework in my phone. I installed JuiceDefender, SetCPU, Battery Saver Pro (which helped in increasing abt an hour). I listened to almost any piece of advice I got. I read through these forums too.
My previous phone running bada OS (Samsung Wave 525) had awesome battery life, which lasted for 2-3 days of HEAVY usage. Of course, I can't expect the same from an Android device, but seriously, is it this bad? And why is this happening? Is it because of -
1. The mod/kernel?
2. Worn-out battery? (i doubt it, every app states that the battery is "healthy")
3. Some internal problem in the phone?
Or is this just something every owner of this phone faces?
Sorry for the long post. Help is greatly appreciated. :fingers-crossed:
Iam on ddlf2
RapidGunner said:
Hey guys.. I'm new here and I plan to stick around..
I just bought a used (for 1 year) Galaxy SL from my friend at a throwaway price. It's in superb condition and everything. Its been a few days, and here's the stuff I've done till now -
1. Immediately upgraded to DDLF2 (India) using Kies. Found some bugs after upgrade. For example, the promised "Video Snapshot" feature wasn't there. Also, the phone rebooted randomly many times in the day and battery ran out quickly (after about 3-4 hrs of moderate usage)
2. Next day, after noticing the weirdness, I decided to flash a custom rom. I heard from many, many sources that Frankenstain Mod and the Bam kernel, along with DDLF2, are the perfect combination for stable performance, nice looks and great battery life. So, following some instructions, I rooted my phone and flashed the rom and kernel. I was (am) REALLY impressed with the final result. I went ahead and installed apps, played games, showed off etc etc..
But sadly, the battery problem still remains. Of course, it has definitely improved a little, but the maximum it can stand till now is abt 6 hours (light-moderate use). Adding to the misery, I am a heavy user. I love playing games, composing music and sometimes doing homework in my phone. I installed JuiceDefender, SetCPU, Battery Saver Pro (which helped in increasing abt an hour). I listened to almost any piece of advice I got. I read through these forums too.
My previous phone running bada OS (Samsung Wave 525) had awesome battery life, which lasted for 2-3 days of HEAVY usage. Of course, I can't expect the same from an Android device, but seriously, is it this bad? And why is this happening? Is it because of -
1. The mod/kernel?
2. Worn-out battery? (i doubt it, every app states that the battery is "healthy")
3. Some internal problem in the phone?
Or is this just something every owner of this phone faces?
Sorry for the long post. Help is greatly appreciated. :fingers-crossed:
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1. Its not the mod /kernel. Since I use the XDA-Bam kernel 15 cr5. So far no issues and the battery lasts at least full day. with heavy usage.
2. May be. Even I doubt it.
3. Not sure with the internal problem, but i doubt that there wont be any internal problem as well since you are using heavy applications
with out any lag.
suggestion
1. Do battery calibration
2. Recharge full until you get 100%
3. Clear the battery stats with cwm
4 again drain the battery completely.
5. Recharge it full to 100%
see if it works for you
Press thanks if it helps you
I have calibrated my battery already. It had helped in solving a major problem (wrong display of battery stats). But battery life hasn't been improved in any way.
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Perhaps your battery's dead.try usb port charging.
As a side note, my battery lasts Atleast two days on Frank mod after moderate use.
Since you seem new to android,http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32235503
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Yes, it's like that. Most people say "heavy usage", but they don't imagine that people actually use their phone all the time. I'm always streaming music via 3G, reading news articles, auto-sync on 24/7, social-networking, and sometimes playing games. My phone doesn't make it through the day.
People that claim that their phones are lasting 2-3 days usually don't have a data plan, don't use wifi that much, don't play games, and don't use facebook. That's great for them, but I like to use my phone, and when you're making the most out of your Android, it'll run out of juice in 6 hours.
All Android phone are like this. If you're going to use a smartphone, you're going to have to have a charger nearby all the time.
samisax said:
Yes, it's like that. Most people say "heavy usage", but they don't imagine that people actually use their phone all the time. I'm always streaming music via 3G, reading news articles, auto-sync on 24/7, social-networking, and sometimes playing games. My phone doesn't make it through the day.
People that claim that their phones are lasting 2-3 days usually don't have a data plan, don't use wifi that much, don't play games, and don't use facebook. That's great for them, but I like to use my phone, and when you're making the most out of your Android, it'll run out of juice in 6 hours.
All Android phone are like this. If you're going to use a smartphone, you're going to have to have a charger nearby all the time.
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Well said man. Nice to see people admitting android being backward in the battery department. I guess battery technology hasn't advanced much yet, compared to smartphones themselves. Manufacturers have to choose between a thin, sleek design with abysmal battery and a "fat" one with more reliability. I guess they prefer the former, which is leading to problems like this...
And yeah, regarding usb charging, i've seen that it doesn't charge as fast as normal wall charging... Is it normal too?
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RapidGunner said:
Well said man. Nice to see people admitting android being backward in the battery department. I guess battery technology hasn't advanced much yet, compared to smartphones themselves. Manufacturers have to choose between a thin, sleek design with abysmal battery and a "fat" one with more reliability. I guess they prefer the former, which is leading to problems like this...
And yeah, regarding usb charging, i've seen that it doesn't charge as fast as normal wall charging... Is it normal too?
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Yes, that's normal. The voltage is about have as much, so it takes about twice as long to charge via USB cable.
RapidGunner said:
Well said man. Nice to see people admitting android being backward in the battery department. I guess battery technology hasn't advanced much yet, compared to smartphones themselves. Manufacturers have to choose between a thin, sleek design with abysmal battery and a "fat" one with more reliability. I guess they prefer the former, which is leading to problems like this...
And yeah, regarding usb charging, i've seen that it doesn't charge as fast as normal wall charging... Is it normal too?
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I read somewhere that samsung was investigating new hydrogen batteries that would make smartphones to last for some weeks
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samisax said:
Yes, it's like that. Most people say "heavy usage", but they don't imagine that people actually use their phone all the time. I'm always streaming music via 3G, reading news articles, auto-sync on 24/7, social-networking, and sometimes playing games. My phone doesn't make it through the day.
People that claim that their phones are lasting 2-3 days usually don't have a data plan, don't use wifi that much, don't play games, and don't use facebook. That's great for them, but I like to use my phone, and when you're making the most out of your Android, it'll run out of juice in 6 hours.
All Android phone are like this. If you're going to use a smartphone, you're going to have to have a charger nearby all the time.
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Totally agree with you...mine last less than half a day with normal use similar to yours..it will only last around a day plus if it's in 100% sleep mode
as in my opinion, everything is right with your battery.
u are using ur phone fully, so don't expect to much.
try the better battery stat app, it will show real stones in juice eaters.
I switched from CM9 to GB (Frank mod) mainly due to battery drain. But did not make a difference. However if i keep data off, battery lasts much longer, otherwise it drains around 30% at night. I am pretty sure XXKPQ was much better but don't want to go back. Anyone have other suggestions.
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cm9 is not a solution either.
best way is to switch to ddlf2 or xwlf2, bam kernel last version. imo, of course.
and main thing - try to find biggest eater. betterbatterystats will help you.
cukierkas said:
cm9 is not a solution either.
best way is to switch to ddlf2 or xwlf2, bam kernel last version. imo, of course.
and main thing - try to find biggest eater. betterbatterystats will help you.
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Frank mod is ddlf2. But still there is battery drain.
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here is the answer. lookout antivirus. it keeps your device alive instead of sleeping properly. you really need it?
magic locker is not a friend either. try to disable them first, make some discharge cycles without them and post the screens with screen time as well.
different problem
i dont have drainage problem...bt my phone takes a loooooooooot of time to get charged..... i have to charge for about 6-7 hours for the battery to fully charged frm 10%... i did not have this problem befor i used DDLF2
My suggestion: do not install antivirus apps, they drain the battery like hell! For the night battery endurance, just enable the deep sleep function (I use No frills cpu, you can enable the deep sleep from the settings menu) and set the governor and scheduler as you wish.
Battery drain is no more a problem for me since I'm on the Frank's MOD.
Remember to do a full recharge (with the device turned off) and a wipe battery stats for optimize the recharging time.
Cheers
wakelocks means your phone being unable to go to sleep mode for certain periods of time (usually because of retarded apps).
Antivirus on android/linux = scam.
that 3G Watchdog crap, do you really need it? (is the battery drainage worth it?)
I would say your battery duration seems normal, considering you're actually using your phone nonstop plus there's those crap background apps running all the time.
BUT if you wanna be sure about it, why don't you make a nandroid backup (using recovery mode), then factory reset? That should get you back to a clean ROM installation, then calibraty and test your battery overnight (of course make sure your phone is going to sleep mode and is using proper cpu governor). This is the most reliable way to see if your battery drain is related to usage, or just a faulty battery. Go clean, let it sleep, see how much battery it drains.
After this, restore the nandroid backup and clean your phone accordingly (remove crap apps or whatever).
Good luck!
for those on CM9, search for alpha 11 kernel in the general discussion thread...flash that over CM9 alpha 14
i get 3 days of battery on low usage......its pretty similar to ddlf2 in terms of battery drain for me atleast.....and i get ics too....
you can also use droidwall to block all the applications which use internet wihout any reason. they will block un-authorised access to internet and will surely cut a good volume of data usage but remember this works only if ur device is rooted
Hi I'm on paranoidandroid based on cm10 alpha3 and the battery life is at its best 14 hs!!!!
I will try some alpha 4 and check if battery life is improved, else some GB