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Android phone without screen lag?

Hi all, I've had about 5 different Android powered phones beginning with the og Droid, to my current DroidX and Motorola Xoom. The screen kind of lags for both devices and it is kind of annoying. I use my wives iPad and iPhone every now and then, but I really prefer Android. There is no screen lag on either of her devices. Is there any new phone available that doesn't have this issue? I'm interested in the galaxy nexus, but the one I tested in the store had the same kind if lag... Although everything was running at one time, so I don't know if it was for that reason or what. I'm on Verizon if that helps. Thanks for any info!
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There's no perfect device with zero lag.
The way iOS and Android function is just different, there's a thread detailing how this works, don't have it on hand.

In Android land, the closest you will get to a totally lag free experience is the Galaxy S2. Too bad Verizon doesnt carry it...

.....you're talking a dx here. Terrible software.
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I agree that no phone is completely lag free, but custom roms/kernels make a huge difference, which is why we all post/lurk here For me, changing the rom and kernel on my Galaxy Nexus makes it into a totally different phone with significantly less lag. I think if you upgraded to a GN and tricked it out, you'd be much happier than you are with your DX.

The gs2 makes a valiant attempt. If you're stuck with android, that's your best option.

The galaxy s2 has less lag than the iphone 4s. You need to get the one x or SGS3 and I am sure they will not lag.( Ok not 100% true, becuase I can make any thing lag, iphone 4 and 4s, i7 PC with GTX 580 6GB of DRR3 1600mhz ram, PS3, Droid razr, SGS2 and my laptop.)
I have made them all lag by runing bone crushing app or content that made them yell nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I can tell you how I made the iphones lag, but really they are over rated.

Make a Lumia lag, try it. Android lags worse than any other OS regardless of hardware, you trade that level of user experience for infinite customization. For most, that's a fair trade-off.

z33dev33l said:
Make a Lumia lag, try it. Android lags worse than any other OS regardless of hardware, you trade that level of user experience for infinite customization. For most, that's a fair trade-off.
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Lumia lag....see later part of following review
http://thenokiablog.com/2011/11/09/nokia-lumia-800-review/
Dave
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Hmmm, lag? I thought that has to do with phone overloaded or using a poorly designed rom? I use the htc inc S, lags a little now, but not when it was stock, lag free. Thats y i await the official ics, htc says april
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SGS2 is still the most lag free android out there
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Like others said all devices lag but rare you see it in iOS or a windows phone. Its just Android lags the most and it doesn't matter how powerful the hardware gets it's still gonna lag until the OS is completely rewritten.

there cant be no lag, and dont compare android to iphone, iphone os is specificly built for the iphone, only 1 device. but android is just built for hundreds of devices, it would be just extremly time consuming and costly for each company to develop their own android for every phone they release. and thats why android lags.

martenp17 said:
there cant be no lag, and dont compare android to iphone, iphone os is specificly built for the iphone, only 1 device. but android is just built for hundreds of devices, it would be just extremly time consuming and costly for each company to develop their own android for every phone they release. and thats why android lags.
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Also it is purely due to the fact that you can multi task with Android. The iPhone doesnt do true multitasking... The only time my GS2 lags is when I have multiple downloads in progress, streaming movies to my tv/xbox and playing games.
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What do you mean by screen lag exactly? Are you talking about touchscreen response time? If so, then there's still a while before we get to near 0ms delay on commercially available phones, although Microsoft have made a touchscreen display with a 1ms delay.

Deathwalkx said:
What do you mean by screen lag exactly? Are you talking about touchscreen response time? If so, then there's still a while before we get to near 0ms delay on commercially available phones, although Microsoft have made a touchscreen display with a 1ms delay.
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No, I believe they are refering to when you scroll through things sometimes it lags. Like say sometimed you scroll between homescreens, sometimes it wont go smoothy like it is meant too.
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Still not possible even today. The lag on newer phones is worse than ancient phones like the S2. Unoptimised OS can't handle the higher resolution.

generic.imitation said:
Hi all, I've had about 5 different Android powered phones beginning with the og Droid, to my current DroidX and Motorola Xoom. The screen kind of lags for both devices and it is kind of annoying. I use my wives iPad and iPhone every now and then, but I really prefer Android. There is no screen lag on either of her devices. Is there any new phone available that doesn't have this issue? I'm interested in the galaxy nexus, but the one I tested in the store had the same kind if lag... Although everything was running at one time, so I don't know if it was for that reason or what. I'm on Verizon if that helps. Thanks for any info!
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Phone UI on the Nexus 10, how effin' stupid...

It seems confirmed that they went with the phone UI on the 10" tablet Nexus 10 like previous leaked pics showed...
HOW EFFING STUPID IS IT?!?!?
You waste all of the huge space on the whole bottom row and you add another bar (the notification bar) at the top of the screen wasting precious vertical space!!!!
I really, REALLY hope no one else follow Google on this!! I have always MUCH preferred Samsung Touchwiz and this is just further proof that the "Google experience" is a WORSE experience...
Very dissapointed...

Totally agree
Btw google experience is good except for that space wastage
Hardware keys were good enough

I think its gonna have the hybrid ui like the nexus 7

its actually mixed....its phone ui...but the apps are in tablet ui.....

Wait...it's there a setting to remove the notification bar like in some apps?
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Justjusten said:
I think its gonna have the hybrid ui like the nexus 7
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jarjar124 said:
its actually mixed....its phone ui...but the apps are in tablet ui.....
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That's not the issue at all here. Of course it's a "hybrid" UI and of course apps are in the tablet UI... The (HUGE) issue is the one I talked about in the first post.

Google is trying to go with the uniform look so new users to Android wouldnt be confused when it comes to where to look for what no matter if they're using Nexus 4, 7, or 10, the experience will be the same

Why are you opening so many threads about this. Seriously relax and buy something else if you don't like it that much.
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What I find funny is that people were complaining when the Honeycomb interface was introduced. Now they're complaining when its being replaced

NIMBAH said:
Why are you opening so many threads about this. Seriously relax and buy something else if you don't like it that much.
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"So many threads" = 2
"this" = 2 different things (one HW, the other SW)
Hello..??

xdapao3 said:
"So many threads" = 2
"this" = 2 different things (one HW, the other SW)
Hello..??
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But your talking about the phone UI on the other thread so whats the need of this one ?
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Not everyone is on xda and even knows the difference. The point is to make the ui experience similar on different devices so a newbie can pick any nexus device up and know how to use it without learning something new. Basically Google is doing what Apple does with iOS being the same on all their devices. It is for ease of use for tech newbies. The good thing about Android is that it isn't very hard to ditch the hybrid ui and get back the tablet ui if you want to and any user on xda should know that so complaining isn't useful. Just be happy it can be changed to suit your preferences and isn't locked down like iOS.
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I say it blows but being an open unlockable device I ain't much worried about it...

I think, why complain for something you know you will eventually be able to change when developers put their hands on it, besides, lots of other ppl who dont even know of the existence of xda nor that it should have tablet UI will still be happy with their N10, and for all of you that want tablet UI just wait a little more and I bet there will be tablet UI on the N10, just gotta be patient, lots of ppl complained the same for the N7, and now we have tablet UI working like a charm

So, seeing how the latest CM10 for the Nexus 10 DO NOT get rid of this INSANELY MORONIC UI, how do you guys telling me not to sweat it feel about it now..?
For my part, I am just super-glad that the tablet that I deem to be the overall best one around today and that I recently bought, the Note 10.1 3G, has kept the "traditional" tablet UI (hands down the best tablet UI of all) also on the official JB update and Samsung doesn't seem to be intentioned to follow Google into this madness...

xdapao3 said:
So, seeing how the latest CM10 for the Nexus 10 DO NOT get rid of this INSANELY MORONIC UI, how do you guys telling me not to sweat it feel about it now..?
For my part, I am just super-glad that the tablet that I deem to be the overall best one around today and that I recently bought, the Note 10.1 3G, has kept the "traditional" tablet UI (hands down the best tablet UI of all) also on the official JB update and Samsung doesn't seem to be intentioned to follow Google into this madness...
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Actually the jelly bean update that is currently officially available for the Note 10.1 is 4.1. Google changed tablet mode in 4.2.
And if you want to experience tablet mode on the N10 get paranoid android, as CM always uses the stock layout that the device has.
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Lesicnik1 said:
Actually the jelly bean update that is currently officially available for the Note 10.1 is 4.1. Google changed tablet mode in 4.2.
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You're right although I don't see Samsung adopting that layout on 4.2...
Of course, you may have a good point and I may be devastated if they do..
And if you want to experience tablet mode on the N10 get paranoid android, as CM always uses the stock layout that the device has.
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Which points to the very limited options we have to escape Google's moronic choice...

xdapao3 said:
You're right although I don't see Samsung adopting that layout on 4.2...
Of course, you may have a good point and I may be devastated if they do..
Which points to the very limited options we have to escape Google's moronic choice...
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Actually a big reason why they might just adopt phablet ui becomes apparent if you follow the GNex PA thread.
1. The normal tablet ui was moved up to 1000dp (from 720 in 4.1 and 600 in 4.0)
2. The code is in a very bad state.
Been going on from Honeycomb and Google maintained that code in a very bad way. Riddled with hard coding and dirty hacks.
3. Is already partially deprecated. Parts of it are missing. (PA team had to forward port them)
So unless they borrow their work or do all that themselves (which would take write a while)I doubt Samsung will use old tablet ui.
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Lesicnik1 said:
Actually a big reason why they might just adopt phablet ui becomes apparent if you follow the GNex PA thread.
1. The normal tablet ui was moved up to 1000dp (from 720 in 4.1 and 600 in 4.0)
2. The code is in a very bad state.
Been going on from Honeycomb and Google maintained that code in a very bad way. Riddled with hard coding and dirty hacks.
3. Is already partially deprecated. Parts of it are missing. (PA team had to forward port them)
So unless they borrow their work or do all that themselves (which would take write a while)I doubt Samsung will use old tablet ui.
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If you are right my Note 10.1 will become almost unusable in landscape mode and I really can't believe how everybody (especially supposed powerusers here on XDA) are not screaming to high heaven about this ****ing retarded UI change.
The ONLY thing I like about the iPad is its 4:3 aspect ratio display and now our 16:10 widescreen displays are going to become even more useless in landscape view... Unbelievable how stupid this is. I just hope they will realize the madness of it... Do they (Google's UI designers, SW engineers and everybody else involved) actually use these tablets themselves????

In terms of making Android tablet's more widely adopted they have made the right UI decision. Anyone can pick up a tablet and know how to use it because the interface is the same as their phone. Plus Google know's the only people who might complain would know how to flash a rom and therefore we have options to change this (PA being a prime example).
You can guarantee not one person is going to walk into Carphone Warehouse, pickup an N7 and say omg it's just like my phone I hate this. In the same way no one seems to care an iPad is just a big iPhone without the phone part. No big deal.

[DISCUSSION]Nexus Brand Name

Before I start, I'd just like to say that this is just my personal rant and even though some of you may not agree, that's why I'm having this as a discussion thread.
Let's get this started then.
All I see going around XDA are people comparing their own devices to the latest Nexus device and saying 'Should I switch to the Nexus?' or a load of people rimming off the Nexus' as if they're the best thing since sliced bread.
Some of you may wonder why this bothers me. I'll tell you.
Just because a device has the Nexus brand name, it doesn't make it any better than any other phone of equal quality. A hell of a lot of people will see a device is a Nexus and immediately want to get it.
Why would you want to?
If you ask one of those people why a Nexus is so great, they'll say one of three things or a mix of the three.
The reasons are;
1) All Nexus devices look great and have great build quality.
2) It's guaranteed to have great developer support.
3) It's officially supported by Google so it will get the latest Android updates before any other device.
Now, let me tell you my response to each of those points...
1) Most Nexus devices don't look great. The only one which looks good, in my opinion, is the Nexus 7. Apart from that, none of them look any better than other devices around.
2) Yes it will have great developer support, but so do a lot of phones which are already around and have been for ages now. An example of that is the Galaxy S2. It's been around for over a year and a half and it still has more development than most phones do
3) Again, this is true. But they're not the only devices to get the Android updates quickly. This site has a smattering of great developers so it will never take long for other devices to get the latest versions, and you haven't even needed to buy a new phone just to get the latest and greatest.
So with that being said, why buy the latest Nexus device when I'm reality it isn't any better than devices which are already available?
I know some of you may be Nexus fanboys and not agree with anything I've said, but I'm hoping that some of you agree just so I know that I'm not the only person who isn't being hypnotized by the word 'Nexus'.
As I said at the top of this post, I'm leaving this as a discussion so if anyone would like to add anything extra or disagree with what I've said, then you can feel free to do so.
But whatever you do, DON'T TROLL OR FLAME OTHER PEOPLE SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THEM!

Agree with all of the above! I'm getting it to replace my GNex.. it's a better device and I don't need two Nexuses
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True most other phones have similar specs (lol dnt want a nexus 4 anymore)
any suggestions??

My first real Android experience has been with the Nexus S 4G about one year ago today actually... i replaced my iPhone 3GS...
Being my first android experience, i didn't know what android offered until i physically had the phone in my hands... i had it for two weeks before deciding to root it and try out the latest Android at the time, 4.0 ICS... fell in LOVE with my phone after that... i only realized other Carriers/manufacturers added their own version of android after i got used to ICS and started looking for other devices to upgrade to... once i became educated with android, i realized that i got extremely lucky with my first android experience/purchase... because not only were other devices not officially updated to ICS, but the rollout of ICS took a very long time to even start getting stable ports/builds from developers... the skin thing also turned me off from wanting another device...
Simply put, even tho my phone is rooted, i can only vouch for devices that come with pure Google experience as that was my first real android experience... someone will say that you can always root your device and update as developers push out there latest ROMs for other devices... but i can't promote that to my friends/family that don't even know what rooting means (like myself before)...
i strongly promote the Galaxy S3... in fact just yesterday someone posted on Facebook asking if they should get the gs3 or iPhone 5... i was surprised to see out of around 20 replies, only 2 said to get the iPhone 5... i said gs3 but i also mentioned the Nexus 4 and its amazing price point... she looked it up but liked the gs3 look more... today she bought the gs3 because of that and because the N4 isn't available yet...
Before, if anyone asked me what phone to get, I immediately said the gs3 hands down... now my response is Nexus 4... i prefer the sleek/clean look and curved glass of the Nexus devices... the gs3 would be great IMO if it didn't have hard keys like back/home/menu at the bottom... so with that, the N4 looks better to me than any other device out there... i also loved the look of the Gnex... sadly, that one lacked in specs for me to upgrade my ns4g... and sadly the N4 lacks CDMA/LTE support for me to upgrade... now I'm kinda stuck as to what now?
Hope that was a civil response you want in this thread
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FangV said:
True most other phones have similar specs (lol dnt want a nexus 4 anymore)
any suggestions??
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Ask in this thread mate
the1dynasty said:
My first real Android experience has been with the Nexus S 4G about one year ago today actually... i replaced my iPhone 3GS...
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I can understand why some would want the pure Google experience, but there are ROMs which provide an extremely close experience anyway. Plus with the added features they have, it seems like the logical choice to go for custom ROMs, at least in my opinion.
If you use the thread linked above, you'll be able to ask there about what device to get next if you're not too sure.
And yeah, that response was all good

Galaxy S3 was a lot slower and laggy compared to my gnex. Went back to my gnex after a week. I buy the nexus for the pure android. Its smoother, cleaner, quicker and just better.
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bendirkss said:
Galaxy S3 was a lot slower and laggy compared to my gnex. Went back to my gnex after a week. I buy the nexus for the pure android. Its smoother, cleaner, quicker and just better.
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Yeah.. noticed the same when comparing JB on my S3 to JB on my Nexus..
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KidCarter93 said:
Ask in this thread mate
I can understand why some would want the pure Google experience, but there are ROMs which provide an extremely close experience anyway. Plus with the added features they have, it seems like the logical choice to go for custom ROMs, at least in my opinion.
If you use the thread linked above, you'll be able to ask there about what device to get next if you're not too sure.
And yeah, that response was all good
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I know custom ROMs are available for other devices... but the only other phone on my radar was the gs3 but I hated those buttons... i enabled the on screen buttons on my ns4g and my kernel let's me dim the light on the capacitive buttons so its like they're not even there anymore lol... i lost some screen real estate but no biggie really...
I was really looking forward to the next nexus and was really disappointed to hear no CDMA/LTE support being that i have unlimited with Sprint now and I'm gonna be switching to a special unlimited plan with Verizon in a month or so... i really wanted to continue using nexus devices but looks like I'll have to go elsewhere for now... luckily, I'm content with this ns4g being that i got it tuned nearly perfect for good performance... the SD read is still a bit slow tho... i can survive until something wets my appetite again like the N4... or I'll just get the SGS4 if nothing comes out before then...
Btw, I'm on 4.1.2 right now running most apps from 4.2 system dump... so this 2year old phone can even take photosphere, and quite well i might add... no rush to upgrade devices... if rather put that money to getting the Nexus 10
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Another reason is that all of the hardwares of Nexus devices are guaranteed to be open, unlike most Samsung touchwiz devices.
Another one is that new nexus devices are all have insanely low prices as they are subsidized by Google.
Also, now nexus devices have the greatest fastest socs in the market. Just look at nexus 4's S4 pro and nexus 10's Exynos 5.
In response to your opinion,
1. Not all nexus devices have great build quality, especially those ones made by Samsung. But in my opinion, all nexus devices have great design and look. Just look at the nexus 4. It's one of the most gorgeous phones in the planet.
2. For your information, the development of the Galaxy s2 is now dead. Also, the galaxy s3 is almost dead. Those are caused by their closed source drivers.
3. Nexus devices are the first to get the STABLE, latest android version.
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The reason is that the Nexus line keeps choices simple. Also, they don't have bloat (TouchWiz, Sense, etc) - and don't say get an AOSP ROM. I have heard that they are nothing but trouble. I quite like the idea of my tablet looking like it's running the same OS as my phone. And personally, the Nexus 4 is the best looking phone out there IMO, even compared to the iPhone 5 and the Samsung S3 (the style/position of the home button killed that design). I really like the UI design of stock Android too, it's not childish or cutesy looking like the bloat or iOS. I'm into the whole 'sci-fi' theme of it.
Also, looking at most other phones, they generally fall short in certain areas, whereas the Nexus devices as of late are looking relatively well considered. After using a Galaxy Nexus, I despise the current state of AMOLED tech. That rules out almost every Samsung phone under the sun. HTC One Xes supposedly have sucky battery life (plus, Tegra 3 vs a quadcore Snapdragon simply isn't a competition at all), and I've decided that lasting less than 5 hours with the screen on (for any mobile device, tablet, phone, whatever) just isn't good enough anymore.
Tablet-wise, for an Android tablet, there is no comparison to the upcoming Nexus 10. The Note sucks and the Infinity really sucks. The iPad wants you to get into the whole Apple ecosystem with Macs and iPhones to really get the best out of things like iCloud and whatnot, and Mac sucks for software & games.
The only real competitor to a Nexus is Windows 8 and WP8, which both look great (better than Android except for the whole 'Bing' thing) but their ecosystems aren't ready for real use yet. I have to say, the Lumia 920 is packing some awesome technology, and with the winter season coming I would really appreciate the touch screen you can use with gloves on. Not to mention the typical Nokia build quality, plus it seems to have everything covered.

The Nexus phones are the quickest to get updates and don't have any OEM skins or bloatware that is forced on the users. While an AOSP ROM can be ported to any phone in theory, it takes time and there are usually hardware issues due to closed source or unavailable drivers, and also locked bootloaders.
The problem with the Nexus line is its sort of like Apple's devices in the sense that there is limited hardware choice and device's memory can't be expanded. My personal hardware tastes are for a smaller device with no more than a 4.3" screen and it must have a microSD slot. I'll put up with OEM skins, bloatware can be frozen with root, as hardware is more important to me than software. But everyone it entitled to their own opinions and preferences.

Nexus phones do have bloat. Google+, google currents, Google earth, google movies, Google books, etc. All /system apps that can't be removed. Most of them are useless.
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Personally running Slim on my S3 is fast enough for me and my aged brain, any faster and I can't keep up!
Add to that my phone is my main music player hooked up to amp and speakers, I love that I can dual boot to get Samsung best bits(few!)
Not worried about lte
Glass back may be stylish.....but is utterly stupid on a phone.
......I am stupid!.....the reasoning?..... .this is all my opinion, nobody is really interested, and I'm not really interested in theirs......ergot......I MUST be stupid for posting in first place.....

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Nexus phones do have bloat. Google+, google currents, Google earth, google movies, Google books, etc. All /system apps that can't be removed. Most of them are useless.
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Was that your final answer? I use most of those... and last I checked, u can go to the play store and uninstall all of them... don't even need root if I'm not mistaken...
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KidCarter93 said:
If you ask one of those people why a Nexus is so great, they'll say one of three things or a mix of the three.
The reasons are;
1) All Nexus devices look great and have great build quality.
2) It's guaranteed to have great developer support.
3) It's officially supported by Google so it will get the latest Android updates before any other device.
Now, let me tell you my response to each of those points...
1) Most Nexus devices don't look great. The only one which looks good, in my opinion, is the Nexus 7. Apart from that, none of them look any better than other devices around.
2) Yes it will have great developer support, but so do a lot of phones which are already around and have been for ages now. An example of that is the Galaxy S2. It's been around for over a year and a half and it still has more development than most phones do
3) Again, this is true. But they're not the only devices to get the Android updates quickly. This site has a smattering of great developers so it will never take long for other devices to get the latest versions, and you haven't even needed to buy a new phone just to get the latest and greatest.
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1) I'll agree not all Nexus look great, though that's a real personal preference thing. I for one, would prefer the Nexus one look over the Nexus s. I currently own a Gnex and I'd be honest in saying it looks alright, but I would like some changes made (Nexus 4, comes close)
2) To be fair, of course the S2 (and noteably other handsets) will have a large dev support, in terms of quantity they sell a lot more than the Nexus family (exception of the Nexus 7, that's the first Nexus priced aggressively)
3) Quick =/= first to get updates. Some people just want the newest FIRST.
I personally choose the nexus because I don't want to be caught with a device that will have a short support life (mentioned above). History shows the Nexus WILL have the most official updates:
Nexus one: Shipped with Eclair, last official version was GB
Nexus S: Shipped with GB, officially supported till Jelly bean
Gnex: Don't know yet, but its gone from ICS to JB.
If you go to dev section, there are even newer (unofficial builds) I don't buy phones every year so I want a phone that will last me 2 years at least.

[DISCUSSION] iOS 7

Being the centerpiece of the Android community, I would like to see what my fellow Nexus owners think of iOS 7. I did not create this thread for "flame wars" or any thing like that but rather a place where we can all maturely discuss our thoughts on Apple's new mobile operating system.
Personally I think it looks very interesting! Certainly a change of pace from where they have been going since the beginning of iOS and that's a good thing. I do believe they took a lot of cues from Android though including the look and feel, notification drawer, and the control center. The thing I'm most excited over though is what Google has in store for us to top it (and you know they will).
That's why I love technology, competition creates awesome new things for us consumers. What are your thoughts?
Here's a YouTube video of it just in case you didn't see it yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKibbvhajOA

Looks very Android-esque, esp. the messaging app and the new "style" looks very much like MIUI, however I think there's already a thread open regarding this

Last iOS7 thread was closed, let's see how this one fairs.
On topic:
My thoughts are that I don't care how they make the OS look, or even function. Until they open up their OS and make it more flexible, I will never buy a device that runs it. I don't need them to tell me what I can and can't do with the phone I've already purchased. Then again, most Android phones have bloatware put in by OEMs and are just as restrictive. Guess that's why I bought a Nexus 4, browse the Nexus 4 forums, and genuinely enjoy AOSP. I don't exclusively run AOSP, but the fact that I can, and do, switch between ROMs is why I won't be using iOS7.

It looks like MIUI....:beer:
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Can I click on downloadable links and download what I want?
Can all apps see/use a downloaded file?
No? It's still for girls then.

I don't see why these threads keep getting closed just like the 4.3. Its related so ....anyways. I do applaud them for trying. But in the end their os is still closed. You get what you get and you can't change anything about it. When you buy and android phone you get more . you can make it yours . as for innovation, under all the new icons, new colors, new notification center, etc, the os is technically unchanged. But you know what, people will buy it. Some people like being told what's cool and what to buy . some don't like modifying and just want something that gets up and goes. While that may be good for some it may not be good for others.
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monkeypaws said:
I don't see why these threads keep getting closed just like the 4.3. Its related so ....anyways. I do applaud them for trying. But in the end their os is still closed. You get what you get and you can't change anything about it. When you buy and android phone you get more . you can make it yours . as for innovation, under all the new icons, new colors, new notification center, etc, the os is technically unchanged. But you know what, people will buy it. Some people like being told what's cool and what to buy . some don't like modifying and just want something that gets up and goes. While that may be good for some it may not be good for others.
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Looks pretty cool but Android all the way
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I definitely like the aesthetics of it, but no file manager/downloading files makes it a hard sell.

It looks pretty nice actually..

At least it has widgets now.
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Still not there but, does look good
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Last ios vs Android argument I had was back at the iPhone 4 times. It has since become boring to bash them. Who cares..

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Last ios vs Android argument I had was back at the iPhone 4 times. It has since become boring to bash them. Who cares..
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That's not the purpose of this thread?
It is to discuss it and possibly compare it. Not bash it.

I think it looks good. Refreshing for iphone users to have a new look!

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I think it looks good. Refreshing for iphone users to have a new look!
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I'd say it's starting to look more like Android, and the iPhone users who preferred the "iPhone look" (Like the missis) agreed that she won't upgrade as it's begun to stray, and then she'd rather just buy and Android phone and let me set it up for her - if those are the kinda looks she's looking for.

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I'd say it's starting to look more like Android, and the iPhone users who preferred the "iPhone look" (Like the missis) agreed that she won't upgrade as it's begun to stray, and then she'd rather just buy and Android phone and let me set it up for her - if those are the kinda looks she's looking for.
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Good to see it from a users viewpoint. I guess they have grown into that look

It's good that they changed the UI and it does look somewhat nice, but I couldn't help feeling I was watching i/o again.
From a Nexus 4 bathing in Jelly Beans

My girlfriend and I watched the whole conference, she has an iPhone 5, and I have to admit I was impressed with the overhaul. The semi-transparency and the white mixed with vivid colors will look great on her phone and iPad. The iPad is where I'm really looking forward to seeing it. It's about time Apple stepped up and really pressure Google to make Key Lime Pie the best OS it can be.
That being said. Not to start a debate... I personally wouldn't leave Android for iOS 7. I like my Nexus 4 too much... At least until the Nexus 5 comes out.
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Although I applaud Apple for overhauling the look of their iOS (it looks better than iOS 6 for sure) it looks like they taken features from android/blackberry/win8 and just complied it into one. Does it impress me? No it doesn't, Android is still by far more advanced than iOS will ever be and this is coming from someone who had the iPhone 4. I got tired of not being able to customize anything and have to use the phone just like Apple wants people to. Does it impress those people who use apple iPhone and apple products only? Yes it does it probably does.. I was disappointed, I was expecting Apple to come up with something new I guess but of course they didn't. "Innovative"..
I'm not one to bash Apple but....
It's like android, blackberry and win8 had a 3 way marriage and it created iOS7.
Although, their Mac Pro looked interesting.
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I think the new OS screamed "Android!!!!!!" and the new Safari reminds a bit Google Chrome for Android, specially the card-tabs (which looks identical to me).
But I also don't care if they are being inspired by Android, after all, that's a good thing, right? Back in the days people would say Android used to copy Apple, now it's going the other way!!! AND it was about time Apple did some major changes to iOS so I'm happy for'em

Why nobody wanna port android on iPhone 5

Heyoo
iPhone 5 is the most beautiful smartphone on the market !
This design i love it !!
I remenber during iPhone 3G era people tried to port android on iPhone it worked !
So why people stopepd their work ?
Android on iPhone 5 the DREAM !!
If anyone could port it that would BE INCREDIBLE AND AMAZING !
I know a lot of people are asking that, but yeah if people are asking that that's because the demand is here ! So why saying no ?

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So why saying no ?
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Because the screen size reminds us of 2010?
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(Seriously though, look up GooPhone i5S if you want something like that)

Because Apple would find a way to sue the crap out of any developer who tried?

How about... no?

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How about... no?
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Why ? .. stop slowing down progress, if you came here just for trolling please get away

because Apple thinks you are its slave after you buying anything from it.

Scellow said:
Heyoo
iPhone 5 is the most beautiful smartphone on the market !
This design i love it !!
I remenber during iPhone 3G era people tried to port android on iPhone it worked !
So why people stopepd their work ?
Android on iPhone 5 the DREAM !!
If anyone could port it that would BE INCREDIBLE AND AMAZING !
I know a lot of people are asking that, but yeah if people are asking that that's because the demand is here ! So why saying no ?
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Because Apple lawyers would eat you alive rather than letting you have some freedom of choice except black/white color and wallpaper, maybe? BTW, you have joined XDA just to ask this? OMG, I'm LMAO right now...

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Because Apple lawyers would eat you alive rather than letting you have some freedom of choice except black/white color and wallpaper, maybe? BTW, you have joined XDA just to ask this? OMG, I'm LMAO right now...
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Yes i came here to ask that, and ?
I thought XDA community were kind and comprehensive but loooks like i was wrong ..

Scellow said:
Yes i came here to ask that, and ?
I thought XDA community were kind and comprehensive but loooks like i was wrong ..
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because porting is not that easy..
i m nt a developer bt porting any os would first requiring unlocking the bootloader which i guess is not possible wid iphone5.
ios is beautiful why wanna change that??

Because average iPhone users can't care less. As Apple will say, it just works, well good enough for most people not to care.
Apple = simplicity / terrible for development
Android = more complicated / developer-friendly
I use my iPad mainly for surfing the web, since you can't really do much with that thing, even if you are jailbroken.
Locked bootloaders prevent ANY type of porting. The most I can do for a different look is to install Dreamboard themes.
Android on the other hand is perfect for making small tweaks and installing new / pre-alpha apps.
Or you can choose not to mess around too much.
In short, Android on iPhone = next to impossible.
Still, if you dare http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Android-Into-an-iPhone,
Only for older devices though, and judging from your response, I don't think you are up to the job. Just saying...

Not possible also......

It would be too complicated for Apple users.

iphone 5 isnt nowhere near build quality as android phones,..and it just started using 4'' screens last year. by the time they get 4.5'' screens, samsung will have flexible display or curved glass device out, and apple phones are boring and useless..notice i didnt mention anything about android screen size, because i dont see a future of big-ass-phone trend continuing in the mainstream market..

Main reason people won't do it is because they can't. Simple. There's a type of encryption Apple uses in a certain part of their OS and no one has been able to figure it out
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Main reason people won't do it is because they can't. Simple. There's a type of encryption Apple uses in a certain part of their OS and no one has been able to figure it out
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Oh i understand !
I have a Iphone 5 and a Nexus 7
I really love android beacuse you can mod, install many emulator without rooting !
I stay on iphone because i can't find a beautiful adroid smartphone .. they all suck with BIG porthole on the back , i hate that !
They can't make simple phone that's why i love apple stuff ..

Because its far too difficult to do and rather pointless as now a days there is far superior and more beautiful hardware that runs android natively. Yes that is subjunctive but I can't stand most everything about apple and don't see the iPhone 5 as anything more than a copy of the last few models, its old and boring.
If there were bad hardware only for droids than maybe someone would care enough to spend the countless hours it would take to do this, but I can't imagine anyone who would have the talent, the time, and the reason to do this
Sorry, but I'm afraid this is a lost cause....
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Personally i wouldn't want it since the screen size is so small. I will agree that their build quality is still very nice though.

if you want android then why the hell you buy a iPhone??

Android OS requires common sense and basic logic, like many OS's, this is just one thing any apple device could not comprehend.

Putting android on a iPhone is like putting a diamond into a freash pile of steaming dog crap....ur taking a superior software and sticking into a 3 year outdated hardware....that got released this year and was passed off as the latest and greatest to apple fan boys who r to busy juggling a latte and a iPhone to do research to see there buying crap lol....apple rant plus one!
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