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Android 4.1 JellyBean

Well... we are all waiting gor official ICS to come to gtab+ , but now google releases new android 4.1...what an unfortunate for us..
We waited for AGES to get ICS, and till now we havent got it yet, i ask, till when we wait for JB?
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Probably 4-6 months. I saw an article where the reporter reached out to Samsung about updates, and they said they would seek to update their devices as possible. I personally think Google's push to make it available on Nexus and Motorola Xoom will force other manufacturers to provide Jelly Bean quickly if they want to sell their devices in the future.

It's not entirely a new huge platform jump of Android(Like Gingerbread to ICS) so it might not take that much time to update. A preview build was given to GN users OTA which is a good sign. I do look forward at the these features though:
Project Butter
Android 4.0 was a major upgrade from 2.3 Gingerbread, bringing a whole new interface and speed improvements. Jelly Bean improves on that, with something Google is calling “Project Butter.” This helps make the whole OS feel 100x faster and smoother, running at an insane 60 FPS.
Home screen customization has also been improved. Widgets will now wrap around the space available to them, so you won’t need to go through the hassle process of moving around icons and widgets.
Offline Voice Dictation
Google has not only made more improvements to the keyboard in Android 4.1 JB, but they’ve also brought offline voice dictation. This means that you won’t need a network connection in order to use voice dictation anymore, unlike Siri voice dictation, which needs a constant connection. Unfortunately, this feature is currently only available in US English, but Google promises that more language support will be coming soon.
The keyboard has also made other vast improvements in predictive text input, meaning that the keyboard thinks about what you are going to type before you even type it.
Notifications
In Android 4.0 ICS, we received the ability to view our notifications from our lockscreen, and access an app right through them. Android 4.1 JB takes this even farther, and allows you to do an action without even accessing the app, all from your notifications window pane.
For example, if someone calls you and you miss it, a notification obviously appears. When you swipe down, you can immediately choose to call the person back, or you can message them if you’d like, all directly from your notification window pane. If you’re currently calling someone and decide to hang up, you can just drag the notification window pane down and end the call from right there. Simple and Easy.
Google has also improved the way Social Networks and 3rd-Party apps are integrated with notifications. If you receive a Google+ photo, you’ll see a preview right from the lockscreen, without even having to access the Google+ app. You can comment and +1 on the photo right from your notification window pane, and quickly get back to what you were doing before.
3rd party developers also have great new features that they can integrate into their apps. Pulse, a popular social news reader, has the ability to show you the days’s top news-just by swiping the notification.

Now hold on a sec, once we get the Ics sources we should be able to port aosp jb to GT+ ain't I right?
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CrisisCorE said:
Now hold on a sec, once we get the Ics sources we should be able to port aosp jb to GT+ ain't I right?
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I think you are right

CrisisCorE said:
Now hold on a sec, once we get the Ics sources we should be able to port aosp jb to GT+ ain't I right?
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Hmm.. maybe yes.. just keep hoping..
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I'm going to just come out and say it, JB will probably not happen on the 7+, look at how long it took them to give us ICS with them already having released an ICS tablet almost identical to ours months ago. maybe the tab 2 will get it. But who knows maybe they will screw them too and make a tab 3.
im thinking 90% most likely officially won't ever happen, which is why i'm dropping samsung for the nexus 7

th3drow said:
I'm going to just come out and say it, JB will probably not happen on the 7+, look at how long it took them to give us ICS with them already having released an ICS tablet almost identical to ours months ago. maybe the tab 2 will get it. But who knows maybe they will screw them too and make a tab 3.
im thinking 90% most likely officially won't ever happen, which is why i'm dropping samsung for the nexus 7
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Yeah.. btw i'm slapping my face when seeing the price n performance by nexus 7. Gonna throw 7+ outta house.
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kevintangi said:
Yeah.. btw i'm slapping my face when seeing the price n performance by nexus 7. Gonna throw 7+ outta house.
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I'm tempted too, but the absence of a micro-sd slot is making me reconsider...

All we need is ics then we can make this a much better tab than nexus.
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just read that Flash is not supported in JellyBean. Flash Player will be removed from the store August 15th. If you already have it, you will get minor fixes/updates/etc.
Sure I agree flash is old, outdated and a hog. I think they should keep it though.

No micro SD on the Nexus 7? Wow!
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chrisrotolo said:
just read that Flash is not supported in JellyBean. Flash Player will be removed from the store August 15th. If you already have it, you will get minor fixes/updates/etc.
Sure I agree flash is old, outdated and a hog. I think they should keep it though.
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From what I understand, Flash is only unsupported in the Chrome browser, but you should still be able to use it for other browsers like Dolphin.

DJPraeses said:
I'm tempted too, but the absence of a micro-sd slot is making me reconsider...
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I'm in the same boat; but regardless I've bought my last Samsung product. Either I learn to deal with the cloud and no microSD storage, or I wait for someone else to come out with a similar product (maybe a 7.7 screen like the upcoming Toshiba Excite).
But no more Samsung.

CrisisCorE said:
All we need is ics then we can make this a much better tab than nexus.
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Well i think we cant. The specs in nexus 7 is way too high. And JB is said to improve the cpu and gpu performance ?
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kevintangi said:
Well i think we cant. The specs in nexus 7 is way too high. And JB is said to improve the cpu and gpu performance ?
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I agree. Higher Res, twice the cores, and JB. I placed my order for the 16gb model. Ill miss the SD, but I think I'll be happy. But I won't sell my 7+ just yet.

If you're gonna talk about specs, Nexus S has a worst one than ours and yet it will receive the JB update. Since our device is very similar to the Galaxy SII, which is sure to get JB(I think), then we will too. It's a matter of patience again because of the lack of interest on our devices.

Graffiti Exploit said:
If you're gonna talk about specs, Nexus S has a worst one than ours and yet it will receive the JB update. Since our device is very similar to the Galaxy SII, which is sure to get JB(I think), then we will too. It's a matter of patience again because of the lack of interest on our devices.
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Nexus= google experience devices. Big difference.
I'm wondering what CrisisCore meant by this being a better tablet than the Nexus if we get ICS? In terms of specs, it's lower resolution and last-gen processor. Sure, it's got microSD and back camera, but really it's hard to argue with speed and resolution. On top of that, there will be far more development on that tablet due to a larger user-base (understatement of the year...). But I'm new to this device, so I'm curious if you know something I'm missing?

DJPraeses said:
I'm tempted too, but the absence of a micro-sd slot is making me reconsider...
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Precisely. "The Cloud" is an interesting concept but unless you have an avenue to connect anywhere at anytime (3/4G + WiFi) it's not as useful as one would desire.
No uSD will most always be a deal-breaker for me.

It'll take a long time. Remember FroYo to Gingerbread on the Galaxy S I series??
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iphone 5 or android jellybean

Hi guys do u think tht iphone 5 will make a better market than android jellybean
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I think Apple and everything that they make can burn in hell =)

Android won't be able to brag about having Adobe Flash on Jellybean so now the playing field should be about even. We'll have to wait and see how the two OS makers do on innovation to attract people. I for one will stay with android no matter what apple comes out with. (don't tell my Ipad)

roninnbaby said:
Hi guys do u think tht iphone 5 will make a better market than android jellybean
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All depends on what your preference is. If you love an open ecosystem on your phone, love flashing ROMs and basically have complete control over your phone, go android. If you want to have a boring interface (prolly always will be cuz they havent changed $&@t since it first came out) and a locked down ecosystem where apple dictates what you do with your phone, go iphone. I know im really biased towards the android. Ive played with both and definitely love android more. Though you might just wanna wait for the iphone 5 to actually come out or atleast wait for some official specs then decide for sure. Either way ull def be happy.

IPhone if you want a closed and restricted device that let's you do NOTHING to the phone that you want. Besides being able to set a photo as a wallpaper and lock screen wallpaper.
You get to do MUCH more with JB than what iPhone's OS offers. Don't buy it because of it's apple brand and popularity. If you have Android, you'll DEFINITELY lose your features.
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I think Iphone is having its brand name apple which will make it shine anywere, but people who s looking towards development and more imporance to hardware specs choose android, and in android brand value is mor for sony or samsung
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Well considering we don't really know much about the iPhone 5 other than iOS 6 and also considering a JB Android phone hasn't been mass-produced yet... I'd say it's a little early to say one way or another unless you just want to start a Apple-Android flamewar
I think both Apple and Google will have great phones running on their respective platforms though. It'd be cool to see what happens and what is released

JB I think ,more device for choosing. 4S is the 5th iPhone (iPhone, iPhone 3G,3GS,4,4S)....Maybe the new one will named iPhone 6 or iPhone LTE?
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I'd always choose an Android device, since you can customize it to the very end. Actually the thread title should be iPhone 5 vs Galaxy Nexus, because it's the first Android device to have jelly bean. Considering updates over hardware the Galaxy Nexus is the phone you want, for hardware I'd say Galaxy S3.
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Galaxy s 3 is much smoother thn iphone
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Hate iphones used it cause everyone had one it sucks been a andriod user since 09 lol.

MissionImprobable said:
I think Apple and everything that they make can burn in hell =)
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this, 1000 times this, I'll never buy anything from them, in spite of any feature or whatever..
I used to hate microsoft and their commercial practices, but this apple is so much worse.

CEO of foxcon said the new ipohone will humiliate the s3

HI
I think the main issue of android it improve the virtual machine that is using because as all know IO5 runs directly on hardware. With the same hardware I would say that iphone will always be more smoother and with no lags.
I hope with 4.1 google solves that issues.
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Sebastian_lx said:
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I think the main issue of android it improve the virtual machine that is using because as all know IO5 runs directly on hardware. With the same hardware I would say that iphone will always be more smoother and with no lags.
I hope with 4.1 google solves that issues.
cheers,
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Yes, yes it does. Project Butter our salvation.

trikzor said:
Yes, yes it does. Project Butter our salvation.
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I hope jelly bean would bring real buttery smooth experience in a wide variety of devices...
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Assuming the iPhone will get a 4" screen then it will really fit in the "high end" category. But now, It is in the same "too small screen" category as my 2.8" Optimus Me.

Heads up for Android 4.1 Jelly Bean.
Two votes going to Samsung Galaxy S3 (updatable to JB) and Galaxy Nexus HSPA+.

I think the JellyBean will WIN!

MissionImprobable said:
I think Apple and everything that they make can burn in hell =)
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Ditto.
freezeburn said:
Android won't be able to brag about having Adobe Flash on Jellybean so now the playing field should be about even. We'll have to wait and see how the two OS makers do on innovation to attract people. I for one will stay with android no matter what apple comes out with. (don't tell my Ipad)
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Er... Why not? Why won't Android be able to brag about Adobe Flash on Jellybean?
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[DISCUSSION]Nexus Brand Name

Before I start, I'd just like to say that this is just my personal rant and even though some of you may not agree, that's why I'm having this as a discussion thread.
Let's get this started then.
All I see going around XDA are people comparing their own devices to the latest Nexus device and saying 'Should I switch to the Nexus?' or a load of people rimming off the Nexus' as if they're the best thing since sliced bread.
Some of you may wonder why this bothers me. I'll tell you.
Just because a device has the Nexus brand name, it doesn't make it any better than any other phone of equal quality. A hell of a lot of people will see a device is a Nexus and immediately want to get it.
Why would you want to?
If you ask one of those people why a Nexus is so great, they'll say one of three things or a mix of the three.
The reasons are;
1) All Nexus devices look great and have great build quality.
2) It's guaranteed to have great developer support.
3) It's officially supported by Google so it will get the latest Android updates before any other device.
Now, let me tell you my response to each of those points...
1) Most Nexus devices don't look great. The only one which looks good, in my opinion, is the Nexus 7. Apart from that, none of them look any better than other devices around.
2) Yes it will have great developer support, but so do a lot of phones which are already around and have been for ages now. An example of that is the Galaxy S2. It's been around for over a year and a half and it still has more development than most phones do
3) Again, this is true. But they're not the only devices to get the Android updates quickly. This site has a smattering of great developers so it will never take long for other devices to get the latest versions, and you haven't even needed to buy a new phone just to get the latest and greatest.
So with that being said, why buy the latest Nexus device when I'm reality it isn't any better than devices which are already available?
I know some of you may be Nexus fanboys and not agree with anything I've said, but I'm hoping that some of you agree just so I know that I'm not the only person who isn't being hypnotized by the word 'Nexus'.
As I said at the top of this post, I'm leaving this as a discussion so if anyone would like to add anything extra or disagree with what I've said, then you can feel free to do so.
But whatever you do, DON'T TROLL OR FLAME OTHER PEOPLE SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THEM!

Agree with all of the above! I'm getting it to replace my GNex.. it's a better device and I don't need two Nexuses
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True most other phones have similar specs (lol dnt want a nexus 4 anymore)
any suggestions??

My first real Android experience has been with the Nexus S 4G about one year ago today actually... i replaced my iPhone 3GS...
Being my first android experience, i didn't know what android offered until i physically had the phone in my hands... i had it for two weeks before deciding to root it and try out the latest Android at the time, 4.0 ICS... fell in LOVE with my phone after that... i only realized other Carriers/manufacturers added their own version of android after i got used to ICS and started looking for other devices to upgrade to... once i became educated with android, i realized that i got extremely lucky with my first android experience/purchase... because not only were other devices not officially updated to ICS, but the rollout of ICS took a very long time to even start getting stable ports/builds from developers... the skin thing also turned me off from wanting another device...
Simply put, even tho my phone is rooted, i can only vouch for devices that come with pure Google experience as that was my first real android experience... someone will say that you can always root your device and update as developers push out there latest ROMs for other devices... but i can't promote that to my friends/family that don't even know what rooting means (like myself before)...
i strongly promote the Galaxy S3... in fact just yesterday someone posted on Facebook asking if they should get the gs3 or iPhone 5... i was surprised to see out of around 20 replies, only 2 said to get the iPhone 5... i said gs3 but i also mentioned the Nexus 4 and its amazing price point... she looked it up but liked the gs3 look more... today she bought the gs3 because of that and because the N4 isn't available yet...
Before, if anyone asked me what phone to get, I immediately said the gs3 hands down... now my response is Nexus 4... i prefer the sleek/clean look and curved glass of the Nexus devices... the gs3 would be great IMO if it didn't have hard keys like back/home/menu at the bottom... so with that, the N4 looks better to me than any other device out there... i also loved the look of the Gnex... sadly, that one lacked in specs for me to upgrade my ns4g... and sadly the N4 lacks CDMA/LTE support for me to upgrade... now I'm kinda stuck as to what now?
Hope that was a civil response you want in this thread
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FangV said:
True most other phones have similar specs (lol dnt want a nexus 4 anymore)
any suggestions??
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Ask in this thread mate
the1dynasty said:
My first real Android experience has been with the Nexus S 4G about one year ago today actually... i replaced my iPhone 3GS...
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I can understand why some would want the pure Google experience, but there are ROMs which provide an extremely close experience anyway. Plus with the added features they have, it seems like the logical choice to go for custom ROMs, at least in my opinion.
If you use the thread linked above, you'll be able to ask there about what device to get next if you're not too sure.
And yeah, that response was all good

Galaxy S3 was a lot slower and laggy compared to my gnex. Went back to my gnex after a week. I buy the nexus for the pure android. Its smoother, cleaner, quicker and just better.
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bendirkss said:
Galaxy S3 was a lot slower and laggy compared to my gnex. Went back to my gnex after a week. I buy the nexus for the pure android. Its smoother, cleaner, quicker and just better.
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Yeah.. noticed the same when comparing JB on my S3 to JB on my Nexus..
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KidCarter93 said:
Ask in this thread mate
I can understand why some would want the pure Google experience, but there are ROMs which provide an extremely close experience anyway. Plus with the added features they have, it seems like the logical choice to go for custom ROMs, at least in my opinion.
If you use the thread linked above, you'll be able to ask there about what device to get next if you're not too sure.
And yeah, that response was all good
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I know custom ROMs are available for other devices... but the only other phone on my radar was the gs3 but I hated those buttons... i enabled the on screen buttons on my ns4g and my kernel let's me dim the light on the capacitive buttons so its like they're not even there anymore lol... i lost some screen real estate but no biggie really...
I was really looking forward to the next nexus and was really disappointed to hear no CDMA/LTE support being that i have unlimited with Sprint now and I'm gonna be switching to a special unlimited plan with Verizon in a month or so... i really wanted to continue using nexus devices but looks like I'll have to go elsewhere for now... luckily, I'm content with this ns4g being that i got it tuned nearly perfect for good performance... the SD read is still a bit slow tho... i can survive until something wets my appetite again like the N4... or I'll just get the SGS4 if nothing comes out before then...
Btw, I'm on 4.1.2 right now running most apps from 4.2 system dump... so this 2year old phone can even take photosphere, and quite well i might add... no rush to upgrade devices... if rather put that money to getting the Nexus 10
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Another reason is that all of the hardwares of Nexus devices are guaranteed to be open, unlike most Samsung touchwiz devices.
Another one is that new nexus devices are all have insanely low prices as they are subsidized by Google.
Also, now nexus devices have the greatest fastest socs in the market. Just look at nexus 4's S4 pro and nexus 10's Exynos 5.
In response to your opinion,
1. Not all nexus devices have great build quality, especially those ones made by Samsung. But in my opinion, all nexus devices have great design and look. Just look at the nexus 4. It's one of the most gorgeous phones in the planet.
2. For your information, the development of the Galaxy s2 is now dead. Also, the galaxy s3 is almost dead. Those are caused by their closed source drivers.
3. Nexus devices are the first to get the STABLE, latest android version.
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The reason is that the Nexus line keeps choices simple. Also, they don't have bloat (TouchWiz, Sense, etc) - and don't say get an AOSP ROM. I have heard that they are nothing but trouble. I quite like the idea of my tablet looking like it's running the same OS as my phone. And personally, the Nexus 4 is the best looking phone out there IMO, even compared to the iPhone 5 and the Samsung S3 (the style/position of the home button killed that design). I really like the UI design of stock Android too, it's not childish or cutesy looking like the bloat or iOS. I'm into the whole 'sci-fi' theme of it.
Also, looking at most other phones, they generally fall short in certain areas, whereas the Nexus devices as of late are looking relatively well considered. After using a Galaxy Nexus, I despise the current state of AMOLED tech. That rules out almost every Samsung phone under the sun. HTC One Xes supposedly have sucky battery life (plus, Tegra 3 vs a quadcore Snapdragon simply isn't a competition at all), and I've decided that lasting less than 5 hours with the screen on (for any mobile device, tablet, phone, whatever) just isn't good enough anymore.
Tablet-wise, for an Android tablet, there is no comparison to the upcoming Nexus 10. The Note sucks and the Infinity really sucks. The iPad wants you to get into the whole Apple ecosystem with Macs and iPhones to really get the best out of things like iCloud and whatnot, and Mac sucks for software & games.
The only real competitor to a Nexus is Windows 8 and WP8, which both look great (better than Android except for the whole 'Bing' thing) but their ecosystems aren't ready for real use yet. I have to say, the Lumia 920 is packing some awesome technology, and with the winter season coming I would really appreciate the touch screen you can use with gloves on. Not to mention the typical Nokia build quality, plus it seems to have everything covered.

The Nexus phones are the quickest to get updates and don't have any OEM skins or bloatware that is forced on the users. While an AOSP ROM can be ported to any phone in theory, it takes time and there are usually hardware issues due to closed source or unavailable drivers, and also locked bootloaders.
The problem with the Nexus line is its sort of like Apple's devices in the sense that there is limited hardware choice and device's memory can't be expanded. My personal hardware tastes are for a smaller device with no more than a 4.3" screen and it must have a microSD slot. I'll put up with OEM skins, bloatware can be frozen with root, as hardware is more important to me than software. But everyone it entitled to their own opinions and preferences.

Nexus phones do have bloat. Google+, google currents, Google earth, google movies, Google books, etc. All /system apps that can't be removed. Most of them are useless.
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Personally running Slim on my S3 is fast enough for me and my aged brain, any faster and I can't keep up!
Add to that my phone is my main music player hooked up to amp and speakers, I love that I can dual boot to get Samsung best bits(few!)
Not worried about lte
Glass back may be stylish.....but is utterly stupid on a phone.
......I am stupid!.....the reasoning?..... .this is all my opinion, nobody is really interested, and I'm not really interested in theirs......ergot......I MUST be stupid for posting in first place.....

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Nexus phones do have bloat. Google+, google currents, Google earth, google movies, Google books, etc. All /system apps that can't be removed. Most of them are useless.
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Was that your final answer? I use most of those... and last I checked, u can go to the play store and uninstall all of them... don't even need root if I'm not mistaken...
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KidCarter93 said:
If you ask one of those people why a Nexus is so great, they'll say one of three things or a mix of the three.
The reasons are;
1) All Nexus devices look great and have great build quality.
2) It's guaranteed to have great developer support.
3) It's officially supported by Google so it will get the latest Android updates before any other device.
Now, let me tell you my response to each of those points...
1) Most Nexus devices don't look great. The only one which looks good, in my opinion, is the Nexus 7. Apart from that, none of them look any better than other devices around.
2) Yes it will have great developer support, but so do a lot of phones which are already around and have been for ages now. An example of that is the Galaxy S2. It's been around for over a year and a half and it still has more development than most phones do
3) Again, this is true. But they're not the only devices to get the Android updates quickly. This site has a smattering of great developers so it will never take long for other devices to get the latest versions, and you haven't even needed to buy a new phone just to get the latest and greatest.
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1) I'll agree not all Nexus look great, though that's a real personal preference thing. I for one, would prefer the Nexus one look over the Nexus s. I currently own a Gnex and I'd be honest in saying it looks alright, but I would like some changes made (Nexus 4, comes close)
2) To be fair, of course the S2 (and noteably other handsets) will have a large dev support, in terms of quantity they sell a lot more than the Nexus family (exception of the Nexus 7, that's the first Nexus priced aggressively)
3) Quick =/= first to get updates. Some people just want the newest FIRST.
I personally choose the nexus because I don't want to be caught with a device that will have a short support life (mentioned above). History shows the Nexus WILL have the most official updates:
Nexus one: Shipped with Eclair, last official version was GB
Nexus S: Shipped with GB, officially supported till Jelly bean
Gnex: Don't know yet, but its gone from ICS to JB.
If you go to dev section, there are even newer (unofficial builds) I don't buy phones every year so I want a phone that will last me 2 years at least.

What Do You Want To See in Android 4.3/5.0 ?

There are probably a few other threads like this, but I didn't really see any so I decided to start this one. Just to make it clear, these things are purely a wishlist, not rumors, and some of these things aren't even to be expected. Just purely for wishful thinking and conversation.
I'll start with the things that bother me most about Jelly Bean.
- Better Multi-Tasking & App Integration: If you're coming from iOS, then what we have is probably easy to live with, but its buggy. For instance, apps seem to get "confused" on what's really opened where. For instance, if I share a picture to Instagram from the gallery or Dropbox, and i go home afterwards, opening the respective app will bring me to Instagram, and opening Instagram will bring me somewhere completely different inside off Instagram. It's like Instagram is running twice. What Google needs to work on is actually having Android switch apps, instead of opening it inside of the other one.
- Rotation: I'm surprised I've never seen this posted anywhere else, but if you use an iOS device and you rotate it, the transition from portrait to landscape (or vice versa) is smooth. extremely smooth. don't give me wrong, Android rotates smoothly too, but the transition doesn't "connect" . Because what Android does is rotate the whole operating system (think of rotating a windows pc), whereas iOS rotates just the UI. The operating system itself doesn't seem to rotate. Ex: If you watched a YouTube video on an iOS device in landscape, when it's over or you go back, the landscape video just slides away with the app in portrait "behind" it. If you've seen it before you'd know what I mean. Android should do this also. Instead of rotating the whole OS, just have the UI rotate.
- Update Fragmentation: This issue will probably never be resolved, because google has almost no say so in what manufactures do with android, but 4.2 is out right? So why are 4.1 devices still shipping? Android has a nav bar now right? So why are devices still shipping with capacitive buttons and menu keys? This is why some devs haven't implemented the 3 dot overflow button in some apps I suppose. Also manufactures are abandoning devices that are still capable of running the latest versions of Android. For instance, the HTC Desire Z (T-Mobile G2) , HTC Desire HD (AT&T Inspire 4G) , and the Galaxy S 1 (which was basically a Nexus S) should've all been updated to AT LEAST 4.0. The updates for the S1 should have stopped when the Nexus S stopped receiving updates actually.
- Skins / OEM UI's - Another issue that will probably never be resolved. Skins were completely understandable up until 4.0 in terms of looks. Android is now a pretty good looking OS and doesn't need a skin. Also, if google were to implement most of the CM features, manufactures wouldn't even need to add features. (If it were up to me, all phones would come with CM, lol.) Also, why they choose to replace built in applications that are never updated is beyond me. If everyone kept the skinning to a minimum, we could have timely updates.
App Unification: I've seen this one so many times. Apps like Google Voice/Messenger/G Mail/ Etc. are all separate apps, but preform the same action, or somehow work together. Much like Google Earth, Maps, and Street View. Why not combine all of the similar apps, and save space and confusion.
Responsiveness / Smoothness: I'm gonna keep this one short, because Android gets better and better with each update, but it could be better. Swipe your finger across something like a webpage quickly and watch it follow behind your finger, whereas on other OS's the page will "stick" to your finger.
The "Back" Button: Something I'm sure we all get confused by at least twice a day. It's supposed to bring us to the previous screen until we get to the home screen, but at times, it'll take you places in apps you've never been, skips screens you've been too, etc. Basically, only half of the time it works at advertised.
Auto Brightness Calibration: Everyone's preferences for auto brightness is different, so why not be able to adjust how bright or dim you want it to be?
There are more things that I'd like to see in android, but at the moment this is all i can think about. Feel free to reply saying something you'd like to see in Android 4.3 / 5.

x2 battery performance > it's enough for me now

Some nice suggestions, but yeah Android needs a culture change where a phone continues to receive updates up until the updates surpass the phones capabilities. It sucks to see good phones left behind, I do understand the custom ROM argument but for everyone this isn't ideal
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Excellent background process contro that should not eat too much battery easily and touchscreen responsiveness this is the only thing i expect currently.

Everything sounds pretty good except the on screen keys. No thanks.
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I think the best way to solve the OEM issue is for samsung, htc, and other manufacturers to make apps which are independent of any framework so that it can be easily updated to the latest android because porting an app is easier than a whole framework

Increase the battery by 10
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They need to get rid of the slow and bloated java garbage in the core system apps. Google spouts about optimizing this and streamlining that to improve performance. They prelink the core libraries to further improve performance. And then they go and use a crappy, slow virtual machine language for most of the system.
Java is fine for apps in the app store for developers that dont know c/c++. It should not be used as extensively in the core of android as it is.

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They need to get rid of the slow and bloated java garbage in the core system apps. Google spouts about optimizing this and streamlining that to improve performance. They prelink the core libraries to further improve performance. And then they go and use a crappy, slow virtual machine language for most of the system.
Java is fine for apps in the app store for developers that dont know c/c++. It should not be used as extensively in the core of android as it is.
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You sound like you hate android lol
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I can't think of anything because I fail at imagination so ill just say things I want from skinned androids that should be added to stock.
1. Smart dialer. Pressing numbers should look up contacts like t9.
2. Battery percentage in status bar. I don't know if this is due to patents that aapl has but Samsung and lg get away with having it.
3. Able to remove home screens. I only use 4-5 and I want the ability to remove the rest like every oem skin.
4. Power saver. Battery life is very important and android needs a way to make it last longer.
5. Facebook contact sync. Not sure why this is not allowed on stock Android.
These are my top 5. As for something new I would like them to improve on giving apps permission. I think every app should ask you when you first start it if it can be allowed to use your gps and if it can be allowed to send push notifications. It's the only thing I like on ios and it'll help with a lot of notification spam.
Also, why does the new gmaps look better on ios than on android. That's not acceptable.
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My biggest problem is the update process of 3rd party android manufacturers. Android 4.2 has been out for a couple months yet my Galaxy SII was only recently updated to 4.1. I know it is more than capable of running 4.2 as I'm running aokp/cm10.1 right now so I'm wondering why? Even the SIII is still on 4.1 and if a couple of guys (aokp/cm10.1/paranoid android) could port within a month or two then why can't major companies who have hundreds of employees. Just look at what the paranoid android team has accomplished with P. A. 3.0 it's like a new version of android, all done within a few months. That said, I like to have the latest updates on my phone so with this being my first Android phone, I think I might bypass anything that isn't a nexus. Google or somebody needs to put their foot down
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Yeh. I definitely have to agree with the touchscreen's responsiveness. Aside from that, battery performance really needs to be optimized.
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I've never understood why everyone wants oem skins to go away. If that happened every phone would be the same so there would be no incentive for say Samsung or HTC to even make phones. The skins are what makes android. Why would I buy a nexus versus a HTC pure android phone?
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I think from now android should work on its AI and Virtual Memory to makes itself so smooth and powerful !
i saw a video clip that compare 2 powerful cellphone Galaxy S III and IPhone 5
in first look Galaxy S III has 4 core and IPhone has only 2 but IPhone is powerful enough to defeat its opponent !
Why ? there's one , only one reason to say the IPhone is too powerful and it's its OS !
IOS is very powerful than android !
if u don't satisfy just go and do a search about it !
i want android to work on it's AI !!

I realize this is stupid but...
With the androidx86 project (that I think is KILLER!!!) I'd like to see them either implement desktop support or do things that would entice more people to get involved. How bad ass would x86 running and then being able to use your phone as a second screen be? Or as remote access? And since they are both natively running (relatively speaking) it would be a real remote desktop as compared to jittery/almost remote desktop on a phone.

ARPwizard said:
Everything sounds pretty good except the on screen keys. No thanks.
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the thing about them though, is they're future proof in a way. look how the menu key is becoming obsolete, but it's still going to be on certain devices no matter what.
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My biggest problem is the update process of 3rd party android manufacturers. Android 4.2 has been out for a couple months yet my Galaxy SII was only recently updated to 4.1. I know it is more than capable of running 4.2 as I'm running aokp/cm10.1 right now so I'm wondering why? Even the SIII is still on 4.1 and if a couple of guys (aokp/cm10.1/paranoid android) could port within a month or two then why can't major companies who have hundreds of employees. Just look at what the paranoid android team has accomplished with P. A. 3.0 it's like a new version of android, all done within a few months. That said, I like to have the latest updates on my phone so with this being my first Android phone, I think I might bypass anything that isn't a nexus. Google or somebody needs to put their foot down
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imho, i think manufactures want to release their new flagship with the newest OS to attract customers (which is really doesn't) . our devs here shows what can be done. with a whole team like HTC/Samsung/Etc has, we should all see updates within a month or less. devs can do it on their own, so why can't they?
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I've never understood why everyone wants oem skins to go away. If that happened every phone would be the same so there would be no incentive for say Samsung or HTC to even make phones. The skins are what makes android. Why would I buy a nexus versus a HTC pure android phone?
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i like skins, don't get me wrong. i have a note ii, and i miss sense daily. they just over do it sometimes. i personally get very annoyed by touchwiz, and you have much more freedom on AOSP. i think apps should just be backward compatible all around.

You say the you would like to see the back button "fixed". I have never got why people always say this. For me anyway, the back button has always performed how I would expect (take me back to the previous screen). Don't get me wrong, android has plenty of flaws, but I don't think this is one of them.
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iJimaniac said:
You say the you would like to see the back button "fixed". I have never got why people always say this. For me anyway, the back button has always performed how I would expect (take me back to the previous screen). Don't get me wrong, android has plenty of flaws, but I don't think this is one of them.
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it works for the most part, but it glitches occasionally.

MadManMark said:
Some nice suggestions, but yeah Android needs a culture change where a phone continues to receive updates up until the updates surpass the phones capabilities. It sucks to see good phones left behind, I do understand the custom ROM argument but for everyone this isn't ideal
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One of the biggest reasons I only stick with Google backed Android devices (Nexus 4, Galaxy Nexus, etc.). It's the device manufacturers and the phone companies that hold up the updates. I've heard numbers where HTC can get the update out 3-4 months after Google releases it, but Verizon could add another 6 months to that timeline. Not quite sure what the exact reasons are for the delay =(

Considering some of the Google Now features, I'd love to see Google buy/license Tasker so that it becomes and integrated part of Android, at least for some key items:
WIFI, GPS, Ringer settings, Sync settings, etc. Those features would be amazing.
It would also be great if I could say: "Turn on WIFI/GPS/Autobrightness, Sync Calendar, Turn off ringer, etc" while in Google Now and have the action executed.

Galaxy S4 Google Edition at I/O 2013

Just found this on reddit, it will be interesting if it really happens. I would be interested to know XDA's thoughts on this rumor.
http://www.geek.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s4-google-edition-to-be-announced-at-google-io-1555174/
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Fantastic! Lets wait and see if it is true.
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I hope they give us the option to flash this ROM with Odin for i9505/i9500 in the future.

Wow, this would be fantastic.
The SGS4 GE would stop people *****ing about TW, s/w, lag, and 9GB of available storage.
The SGS4 Activ would stop the people *****ing about the display cracking.
The SGS4 Zoom would stop the people *****ing about the camera.
Something for everyone.

BarryH_GEG said:
Wow, this would be fantastic.
The SGS4 GE would stop people *****ing about TW, s/w, lag, and 9GB of available storage.
The SGS4 Activ would stop the people *****ing about the display cracking.
The SGS4 Zoom would stop the people *****ing about the camera.
Something for everyone.
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The SGS4 Ultimate would combine all of the above to stop people biching about all of the above.

MaKTaiL said:
The SGS4 Ultimate would combine all of the above to stop people biching about all of the above.
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Add metal construction to it and it would be the perfect phone. And probably $1,000 USD.

If this releases tomorrow and is updated by Google, that will be my next phone for sure. Although I'm not sure if I would miss the features Samsung added to touch wiz.
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msavic6 said:
If this releases tomorrow and is updated by Google, that will be my next phone for sure. Although I'm not sure if I would miss the features Samsung added to touch wiz.
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Why not just stay on the TouchWiz version and hope for a dualboot kernel? That way you could enjoy the best of both worlds. A perfect aosp rom would be amazing and might even make some of the cyanogenmod devs come back.

Toss3 said:
Why not just stay on the TouchWiz version and hope for a dualboot kernel? That way you could enjoy the best of both worlds. A perfect aosp rom would be amazing and might even make some of the cyanogenmod devs come back.
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That would be awesome, I'm very excited for tomorrow.
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And i hope its the 9500 version....

DocRambone said:
And i hope its the 9500 version....
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Doubt it'll be an Exynos variant as that would require a lot of work from Samsung. Releasing an AOSP version of the i9505 would allow them to piggyback on Google/Cyanogenmod.

Pretty sure this is never going to happen.
First of all, their software and hardware dont match.
1) Google is promoting software buttons, and the Galaxy s4 has capacitive + a hardware home button
2) Google is promoting the discontinuation of the menu button, and instead opts for a separate multitasking button
3) Google hates SD cards and external memories.
And secondly, Samsung has no reason to do this....
Samsung already controls most of the Android market, and most Android users dont care about AOSP or stock or whatever.
Also, selling through Google wont really help them with their profit either.
If it does happen tho, please have it on Verizon

JaeKay said:
Pretty sure this is never going to happen.
First of all, their software and hardware dont match.
1) Google is promoting software buttons, and the Galaxy s4 has capacitive + a hardware home button
2) Google is promoting the discontinuation of the menu button, and instead opts for a separate multitasking button
3) Google hates SD cards and external memories.
And secondly, Samsung has no reason to do this....
Samsung already controls most of the Android market, and most Android users dont care about AOSP or stock or whatever.
Also, selling through Google wont really help them with their profit either.
If it does happen tho, please have it on Verizon
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The rumours have it pegged for a release on AT&T. And none of the above matters as it isn't a nexus device.

JaeKay said:
Pretty sure this is never going to happen.
First of all, their software and hardware dont match.
1) Google is promoting software buttons, and the Galaxy s4 has capacitive + a hardware home button
2) Google is promoting the discontinuation of the menu button, and instead opts for a separate multitasking button
3) Google hates SD cards and external memories.
And secondly, Samsung has no reason to do this....
Samsung already controls most of the Android market, and most Android users dont care about AOSP or stock or whatever.
Also, selling through Google wont really help them with their profit either.
If it does happen tho, please have it on Verizon
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Very invalid arguments.
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JaeKay said:
Pretty sure this is never going to happen.
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It's a rumor so you could be right. But there's some logic in it. If what the story OP posted is true it's not a Nexus phone; it's a special edition of what's likely going to be the best selling device of 2013 in "pure" form from the world's largest Android device manufacturer.
It's good for Samsung because:
It's positive press and shows Google and Samsung are a "team" damping all the "stake through the heart" stories.
Addresses Samsung's perceived lack of support for "enthusiasts" (EG: dev community).
Introduces another SGS4 variant that addresses the needs/wants of a sliver of the market further increasing SGS4 sales.
It'll cost them next to nothing to produce and support.
It's good for Google because:
It's positive press and shows Google and Samsung are a "team" damping all the "stake through the heart" stories.
Samsung releasing a non-TW device shows their support for native Android and Google's not on the hook for contractual commitments and added time to market like with the Nexus program.
The more support for Android the better.
Google's a business. This would be good for business. That, to me, supersedes fixed storage and on-screen navigation keys. This isn't much different than what HTC/T-Mobile did when they released the Desire Z as the T-Mobile G2. It was the same phone sans the overlay and marketed as "pure Google." This would be a more dramatic announcment than Motorola's XFON with last year's specs that been rumored for I/O. We'll know soon enough.

Wonder if the software is pure android (no touchwiz) if Samsung will still **** with the screen brightness based on the color of what is being displayed on the screen or if this version would actually be brighter than the touchwiz version

We will find out today
I really like Touchwiz it looks beautiful but I also love AOSP rom:laugh:

Sadly this version will only be available to developers as SamMobile has stated.
I'm not completely sure in which ways a normal everyday user could profit from this?
Maybe all XDA'ers will eventually turn into developers?
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If they do release such a phone, it would surely be ported to the normal variants easily as they have the same hardware. So, if it does happen, it would be a very good thing.
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