Couple questions:
Why is it different for verizon vs other carriers? basically, Why can us verizon users not use the same method used for sprint, Tmobile or ATT?
regardless of the carrier you are on, once you are rooted can you flash any ROM? Example, Say I root when I get my phone (From verizon) and root, there are several choices Id be interested in the international S3 development. I saw a couple instances where US version phones had some issues flashing some of those ROM's.
IF there are issues with flashing certain ROM's, how do you know which will be safe for US version phones?
I am coming from a rooted thunderbolt and I dont recal ever having to worry about these issues, which is why I am looking fro clarification. Thank you for your help in advance. Seeing several cases of bricked phones, I'm just wanting to make sure I fully understand.
us variants use a different chip set then the international versions of the s3. Lots of threads about it
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You didn't have to worry about this because with your Thunderbolt, your xda forum wasn't joined with the other provider variants of the Thunderbolt. I think the fact that xda joined all the carriers together is going to end up with more people that don't understand how this whole thing works and more bricked phones.
The international phones are more like the droid incredible s and incredible 2 difference. They're both world phones but one is international. They seem to be 100% identical but they aren't and therefor cannot accept each others Roms (on 99%
Of the cases) just be sure t read the op of any Rom u are interested in. They will say not to flash if u are or aren't an international phone
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Hey so far i haven't been able to find myself an adequate android phone for my first smartphone purchase (I'm an android junky and dev, just never got around to buying one that fit my needs) However now there are a couple contenders on the market. They have to fit t-mobile frequencies (I live in canada, and the only good network is wind which is basically t-mobile) and can't have too many issues. So I've recently stumbled across the spec sheet for the Motorola Droid 2 Global edition and was wondering if it supported t-mobiles frequencies considering the huge amount of radios it already does have.
More than likely it will work. Its a GSM capable phone, soo...yeah. You should check out the Nexus One too, its older but its still hanging up there with all the newest phones.
Yah the nexus one was very interesting and it was the original dev phone, idk i'd rather just be closer to the cutting edge and that 1.2ghz proc plus hardware keyboard really entices me lol
Complete speculation here, but I'd be surprised if it has the 1700/AWS band for 3G. Most 'global' phones have some combination of 850/900/1900/2100. I sure hope it does have AWS though
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Complete speculation here, but I'd be surprised if it has the 1700/AWS band for 3G. Most 'global' phones have some combination of 850/900/1900/2100. I sure hope it does have AWS though
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So do I wanna buy it so badly but refuse to use Telus/Bell(I'm canadian) the mytouch or g2 is the only real alternative but the mytouch just bugs me somehow
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So do I wanna buy it so badly but refuse to use Telus/Bell(I'm canadian) the mytouch or g2 is the only real alternative but the mytouch just bugs me somehow
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I messed with a G2 the other day and it was great. Very solid build, excellent keyboard, vanilla Android... not to mention, it already has a massive developer base.
Thats good to hear i heard there were some sketchy things about the build quality of the hinges
I open and closed it several times and it seemed as solid as it needs to be. I think some people might just be too anal.
Hahahahahha Gee I hope i'm not one of those people cuz if i can't get my hands on a n unlocked Droid 2 Global thats my choice
Ha you can't go wrong either way. The Droid 2 is a tank. My only concerns with the Global would be how much compatibility it will have with D2/DX hacks and whether sbfs will be leaked. Development is much more sparse on these new Motos than HTCs like the G2.
Yah i've looked through the forums and htc's seem to attract a lot of dev interest, meh more room for me in the moto department then
I'm pretty sure it won't have AWS. USA/Canada are the only ones who use it, and they have CDMA networks. Why would Verizon need to roam on any AWS network?
According to leaked specs of the Droid Pro, it has UMTS 850/1900/2100
Since its specifications are very similar to the Droid 2 Global, I'm guessing (and hoping) it also has the same bands so that I have the option of buying it and using it on AT&T.
I don't know why they went with these bands for the Pro since Europe uses 900/2100 and the Pro is missing 900. I don't think 900 is very common though, and Australia uses 850MHz so that may be why.
Is it possible and recommendable to buy the prepaid Verizons droid 2 global instead of the full price one, so you save 150 dols, and then unlock it and use it with another GSM carrier outside the US? Or should I buy the ones that are for sale on ebay?
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Hey so far i haven't been able to find myself an adequate android phone for my first smartphone purchase (I'm an android junky and dev, just never got around to buying one that fit my needs) However now there are a couple contenders on the market. They have to fit t-mobile frequencies (I live in canada, and the only good network is wind which is basically t-mobile) and can't have too many issues. So I've recently stumbled across the spec sheet for the Motorola Droid 2 Global edition and was wondering if it supported t-mobiles frequencies considering the huge amount of radios it already does have.
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For T-Mobile 3g I would go for the My Touch 4g or the Samsung Vibrant or The Nexus One. The Nexus One is still cutting edge. I have a Nexus One and a Droid 2 Global and the 1.2 processor doesn't really feel different. The Droid 2 Global also has barley any support here and absolutely no roms. I Love my Nexus One and I think it is better than any other smart-phone iv seen. If you want a great phone with amazing support and roms I would go with the Nexus.
Droid 2 GLOBAL - unsuccessful ROOT!
I was able to get a pre-retail Droid 2 Global a few weeks ago.
I wanted to Root is and use the Sapphire ROM. So I tried every ROOT method I could find using my MAC = no avail!
Then I tried every ROOT method I could find using a PC = NO AVAIL! (1-2-3, One click, etc)
* The only thing that happened was the phone got real hot and the program got stuck at "searching for device" - & yes I downloaded the Motorola drivers and the updated SDK pack.
Any thoughts on this?
You need to run the root apps again consecutively not always does it work the first time and all of the apps do the same exploit and there have been Droid 2 Globals that have rooted you just need to stick with it. Also sometimes it helps to reboot your phone after a failed attempt. It just depends on the phone. I remember when root first came for the D2 and we didn't have apps we had to run all the commands from ADB and do it manually.
Still no dice to Root Droid 2 Global
I just got this:
ww.droidforums.net/forum/droid-2-global/96381-droid-2-global-root-custom-recovery-sim-unlock-tutorial.html[/url]
I am going to give it a whirl after I get home from work tonight. Fingers crossed - if this doesn't work, I'm all set with trying to root this thing.
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I just got this:
ww.droidforums.net/forum/droid-2-global/96381-droid-2-global-root-custom-recovery-sim-unlock-tutorial.html[/url]
I am going to give it a whirl after I get home from work tonight. Fingers crossed - if this doesn't work, I'm all set with trying to root this thing.
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Be VERY careful!!! Droid 2 and Droid 2 Global ROM's are NOT compatible. If you flash Droid 2 rom on D2G, phone will not boot and as there is no SBF available yet, you are looking into expensive paperweight until SBF is released.
BTW - phone is rootable. But refrain from flashing anything before you have way to get out if phone gets bricked. You have been warned.
Thanks for the heads up...
After minimal research, I realized that.
My plan was to flash clockwork recovery? Do you think that won't work?
It will be hard, but I can endure waiting for a "GLOBAL" ROM -
Cheers,
-T
D I O R D said:
After minimal research, I realized that.
My plan was to flash clockwork recovery? Do you think that won't work?
It will be hard, but I can endure waiting for a "GLOBAL" ROM -
Cheers,
-T
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Even if you have a D2 G clockwork regularly won't work because the D2 only has a bootstrapped recovery. I don't have a D2 G but the D2 G is based on the D2 and on the D2 you should only install things with koush's bootstrap. I believe flashing normal clockwork will brick your D2 G. I wouldn't flash anything though before the D2 G's sbf is out. Unless you don't mind an expensive paperweight until then.
For all D2 G owner's: read everyting you can about the way that things are done with the D2 so you will knw what you are doing when ROM's and things come for the D2 Global.
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Hey guys, the Samsung Galaxy S III is finally coming to US Cellular this Thursday and/or Friday.
This is the official thread for the US Cellular variant of the phone.
We will discuss mods, flashing, rooting, and etc.
In for my 2 friends on USCC whose phones I'll be rooting (for tether). Hopefully it won't be locked like VZW.
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In for my 2 friends on USCC whose phones I'll be rooting (for tether). Hopefully it won't be locked like VZW.
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It won't, I spoke with a US Cellular representative today and it's where I got the release date and other details.
The thing is, that the phone does have a lot of similarities with Verizon, so the devs have 2 options.
They can make one for US Cellular and edit it for Verizon.
But as Verizon is a larger carrier, they'll probably get the Developer's edition of the phone and then at some point make a root for the US Cellular version.
You think that CyanogenMod 9 or 10 will be supported for the USC variant?
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You think that CyanogenMod 9 or 10 will be supported for the USC variant?
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There's no reason why not.
As far as root, the CWM flash method has worked on all variants thus far, I don't see why it won't work on the USCC phone.
I am switching this fall when my contract is up in Verizon to US Cellular. What will the dev scene look like on this phone? Will it be easy to port ROMs from other GS3? If there are very few devs working on this phone, how easy is it for a end user to port the ROM from another GS3?
since I already have a mini sim and a lTE acount thats active, from my Galaxy Nexus on verizon, can I just pay cash for the us cellular version and plug in my active sim and it will work?
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There's no reason why not.
As far as root, the CWM flash method has worked on all variants thus far, I don't see why it won't work on the USCC phone.
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Well, there are already people getting the phone today, but I know that past phones like the Mesmerize and the Aviator have been Cyanogenmod supported, and Root supported.
Do you happen to know which carrier US Cellular has the most similarities to?
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I am switching this fall when my contract is up in Verizon to US Cellular. What will the dev scene look like on this phone? Will it be easy to port ROMs from other GS3? If there are very few devs working on this phone, how easy is it for a end user to port the ROM from another GS3?
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The US Cellular variant of the Galaxy S II shared a lot of similarities with the Epic4G Touch.
Well, as US Cellular is finally starting to grow, I've seen a lot of developers for AOKP and CM9 discussing the possibilities of ROMs by making it for the 4G Touch, and just porting it over by changing a few things.
I can't answer that last question as I really have no idea on porting ROMs, but as I said in another post, it's either closer to Verizon or Sprint.
But for the S II, I've seen a few threads that it was very easy, but that they just had to change a few things, so I'm assuming that it's not that much of a hassle.
chakra said:
since I already have a mini sim and a lTE acount thats active, from my Galaxy Nexus on verizon, can I just pay cash for the us cellular version and plug in my active sim and it will work?
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I've tried Googling that but I can't seem to find an answer.
Some answers say yes some say no, but I think that US Cellular has more similarities to Verizon than any other carrier, at least that's my speculation in terms of radios, as they both use the same spectrum.
But you can go to the website and go to a live chat with a representative and ask there.
Has anyone rooted this phone yet? Can we get our own section?
Bump for a fellow U.S. Cellular S3 owner. Would love to see it rooted.
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Bump for a fellow U.S. Cellular S3 owner. Would love to see it rooted.
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The instructions at galaxys3root.com works for US Cellular.
So it is confirmed that this phone has an unlocked bootloader?
Has anyone tried and can verify on U.S. Cellular that they have used galaxys3root.com and it worked?
this phone can be rooted with the method that team epic uses for the sprint version. I dunno what the website you're talking about does but it is the same method as it is with all the other carriers.
I would love to see a separate section for us, no we aren't gonna have a whole lot of development going on compared to the big 4 but it would be really nice to have a place where we can have specific discussions and rom ports and things for just us.
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Does anyone know if a verizon mini sim will work in this device?
Yes that site just has a set by step guide for installing the Team Epic recovery using ODIN and it worked on my US Cellular Galaxy S III.
Seconded on the separate forum idea. I think there will be more than enough people to have one. I know a lot of people is moving to this from the Desire and that had a decent sized community.
Successful root using teamepics procedure.
Agree with vex and all the rest. A separate forum for USCC GS3 owners would be wonderful.
Who would we contact to get a separate section?
My carrier is US Cellular, but I notice this site has very little for the carrier. They have many of the newest phones, I picked up a note 3 (SM-N900R4) from there a little bit ago, and went to xda to find out what they had. I noticed that there are many threads for the seperate carriers, but not for US Cellular, this didn't affect me too much with my old phone, the mesmerize (SCH-I500), but most of the differences were small and could be overcome by using romkonverter. But I'm sure I'm not the only one getting frustrated with this site's lack of US Cellular support. What I'm asking is why is there so little support for US Cellular? Could I do anything about it?
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My carrier is US Cellular, but I notice this site has very little for the carrier. They have many of the newest phones, I picked up a note 3 (SM-N900R4) from there a little bit ago, and went to xda to find out what they had. I noticed that there are many threads for the seperate carriers, but not for US Cellular, this didn't affect me too much with my old phone, the mesmerize (SCH-I500), but most of the differences were small and could be overcome by using romkonverter. But I'm sure I'm not the only one getting frustrated with this site's lack of US Cellular support. What I'm asking is why is there so little support for US Cellular? Could I do anything about it?
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i guess i would say that us cellular is a a bit more unpopular then Verizon/t-mobile/at&t carriers. its kinda strange that virgin mobile gets some devices on here such as the lg optimus V which is still being sold and is a great phone for such little specs. you could check here http://teamuscellular.com/Forum/forum/259-android-development/ i just recently found out about it
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i guess i would say that us cellular is a a bit more unpopular then Verizon/t-mobile/at&t carriers. its kinda strange that virgin mobile gets some devices on here such as the lg optimus V which is still being sold and is a great phone for such little specs.
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I'm seeing development for the note 3 all over on xda, but the site you linked me to has very little to say about anything related to the note 3. I know there is development going on for the US Cellular note 3 because in the generic note 3 page (no carrier labeled), there is maybe one or two examples of things listing the SM-N900R4 as compatible, but not nearly as much as I would imagine, considering they all use the same hardware. For my mez, the only difference with that and the fascinate were the apns, you could flash kernels and roms for fassy on mez without romkonverter. I don't know what differences are in all the variances, but what I would like to know is, how could I actively get this site more involved with the development US Cellular devices?
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I'm seeing development for the note 3 all over on xda, but the site you linked me to has very little to say about anything related to the note 3. I know there is development going on for the US Cellular note 3 because in the generic note 3 page (no carrier labeled), there is maybe one or two examples of things listing the SM-N900R4 as compatible, but not nearly as much as I would imagine, considering they all use the same hardware. For my mez, the only difference with that and the fascinate were the apns, you could flash kernels and roms for fassy on mez without romkonverter. I don't know what differences are in all the variances, but what I would like to know is, how could I actively get this site more involved with the development US Cellular devices?
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probably only developing a rom on your own or with another person. start with Cyanogenmod, always the easiest to me.
Hello,
I currently have a Note 3 but have an opportunity to purchase an HTC One M8 Developer edition. I'm on Verizon. Are there any gotchas I need to look out for? Any limitations I'll have on Verizon? I know Dev editions typically are unfettered, but I've only had Samsung Galaxy devices so I'm not schooled up on the way HTC handles their business.
Thanks!
not sure they made a developers edition for verizon... if its a international/ GSM version it might not work on verizon... I know a verizon phone can go to GSM but looses LTE ability... check your phone bands of the phone and be sure it suppports all of verizons channels... different versions supports different cell signal although all are M8
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not sure they made a developers edition for verizon... if its a international/ GSM version it might not work on verizon... I know a verizon phone can go to GSM but looses LTE ability... check your phone bands of the phone and be sure it suppports all of verizons channels... different versions supports different cell signal although all are M8
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Thanks for the info. I'll do my due diligence before purchasing. Not a whole lot of definitive info out there on the webs unfortunately. Might have to pass this one up.
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Hello,
I currently have a Note 3 but have an opportunity to purchase an HTC One M8 Developer edition. I'm on Verizon. Are there any gotchas I need to look out for? Any limitations I'll have on Verizon? I know Dev editions typically are unfettered, but I've only had Samsung Galaxy devices so I'm not schooled up on the way HTC handles their business.
Thanks!
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I'm almost positive the developer edition will not work on Verizon. I don't believe verizon released their own developer edition so I don't think I'd go that route. At this point a new Verizon runs 4.4.4 which is not unlockable. The only thing you could do is buy one already s-off through swappa.
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Yeah, looking to get one used if I get one. This guys was selling his dev edition for 250, pretty killer if it's kosher. I'll have to pass it up though. Thanks for the updates
Note III KK-style
Ive been on Sprint for a good while now and I've had Nexus phones for years now so I'm not used to having to worry about the different versions and if I'll get to use custom roms or not.
But because I remember how much life sucked pre Nexus, 5,6,6p on Sprint, I was just wondering if this variant of the s8 is destined to live a stock rom life? I see the international and TMobile and att versions etc are already flourishing, but not a whole lot here.
Just trying to make my decision of do I upgrade or finally move to a gsm carrier.
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Ive been on Sprint for a good while now and I've had Nexus phones for years now so I'm not used to having to worry about the different versions and if I'll get to use custom roms or not.
But because I remember how much life sucked pre Nexus, 5,6,6p on Sprint, I was just wondering if this variant of the s8 is destined to live a stock rom life? I see the international and TMobile and att versions etc are already flourishing, but not a whole lot here.
Just trying to make my decision of do I upgrade or finally move to a gsm carrier.
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Most of those roms are Universal for all carriers. You just have to flash your sprint CSC/Userdata to get all network features. Check Verizon or ATT threads.