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Now we seen the TF2, is there a new keyboard dock too? I'm thinking about getting a dock but if there is a new thinner one, ill wait. Wonder if it will fit a TF1.
I simply don't see how they could have a thinner tablet but still fit the first dock. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
That's a good question too. So if there is a thinner dock and thinner TF2, will the old thicker TF1 fit the thinner dock? If there is a new dock?
http://www.engadget.com/photos/asus...rmer-prime-android-tablet-at-asiad-1/#4542823
:/ new dock
ASUS always said it'd be compatible. It'll just look ugly when connected I guess. But the new Prime is super slick and thin. Best to just sell and rebuy.
That silver metal finished tablet, with the brownish dock will look like , well.... ummm... better buy the new one
The new transformer looks great... Better color than the original.
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las5muertas said:
The new transformer looks great... Better color than the original.
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Well, I don't agree. I still think the bronze color of the TF1 looks great because it makes the TF look nothing like other tablets. I just hope they don't make the TF2 look like other tablets.
it... its so THIN! you better have a case already purchased before you receive this thing. I can see all of the RMA threads now....lol
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it... its so THIN! you better have a case already purchased before you receive this thing. I can see all of the RMA threads now....lol
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Sorry if I'm dense. What's the joke?
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Sorry if I'm dense. What's the joke?
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That thin = easy to break would be my guess. Although it hasnt materialized with the ipad or the Samsung. Its not like most people are snapping them in half, its broken glass, which will happen on a thin or a thick tablet.
I've gotta say, if the TF Prime works with the current dock, I'll be buying one the first day. I couldn't care less if it doesn't match--I'm not terribly worried about being arrested by the fashion police.
Really, what makes me hesitate in buying the Prime is the though of needing not only the tablet but also another $150 on a dock. Take that away, and suddenly I can justify things a little better.
That said, I don't actually think the dock will be supported--I remember Asus saying awhile back that they received a number of complaints about the docking mechanism (which I've never understood) and so were going to redesign it. I don't know how they could change the mechanism and still support the original dock, but we'll see...
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I've gotta say, if the TF Prime works with the current dock, I'll be buying one the first day. I couldn't care less if it doesn't match--I'm not terribly worried about being arrested by the fashion police.
Really, what makes me hesitate in buying the Prime is the though of needing not only the tablet but also another $150 on a dock. Take that away, and suddenly I can justify things a little better.
That said, I don't actually think the dock will be supported--I remember Asus saying awhile back that they received a number of complaints about the docking mechanism (which I've never understood) and so were going to redesign it. I don't know how they could change the mechanism and still support the original dock, but we'll see...
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Yeah, it's unlikely I'll be upgrading if the existing dock isn't supported, either. I could care less about thinner, so the TF2's advantages (faster, and *maybe* a better camera since they bothered to add an LED flash) would be outweighed by its disadvantages (new docks means added expense, and now it's not only a reflective fingerprint magnet on the front, but on the back as well.)
I wonder if the new dock includes a built in battery?
They read it reportedly has a 14.5 hour battery life, but it didn't mention it that was docked or undocked. If that batter life is docked then a guess it a small trade off for thinness. If it's undocked I could see the dock not needing to have a battery (of course a dock that add an additional 10 hours would be really nice too).
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I wonder if the new dock includes a built in battery?
They read it reportedly has a 14.5 hour battery life, but it didn't mention it that was docked or undocked. If that batter life is docked then a guess it a small trade off for thinness. If it's undocked I could see the dock not needing to have a battery (of course a dock that add an additional 10 hours would be really nice too).
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From the video I heard him say that its about 8.5 without the dock and 16.5 with the dock
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From the video I heard him say that its about 8.5 without the dock and 16.5 with the dock
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Ahhh... well, I guess that's not bad.
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I've gotta say, if the TF Prime works with the current dock, I'll be buying one the first day. I couldn't care less if it doesn't match--I'm not terribly worried about being arrested by the fashion police.
Really, what makes me hesitate in buying the Prime is the though of needing not only the tablet but also another $150 on a dock. Take that away, and suddenly I can justify things a little better.
That said, I don't actually think the dock will be supported--I remember Asus saying awhile back that they received a number of complaints about the docking mechanism (which I've never understood) and so were going to redesign it. I don't know how they could change the mechanism and still support the original dock, but we'll see...
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Yeah, the base becomes slippery when you raise the screen. Maybe if they would have used rubber on the feat instead of hard plastic it would have been better.
Pure math :
TF1 : 12.98mm thick AND TF2 : 8.3mm thick = Different dock
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From the video I heard him say that its about 8.5 without the dock and 16.5 with the dock
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I heard 16.5 hours docked clearly, but couldn't quite make out 8.5 hours by itself. Not sure where everyone got 14.5 hours as is being reported, because I definitely didn't hear that.
dissapointed the dock doesnt have back lit keys
I'm still within my 30 days for my tf300, and I have to return it because of a piece of dust stuck under the display glass. I also bought the tf300 dock and find it quite useful. Im thinking of going for the tf700. But If I get the TF700, I dont think i'll be able to afford the dock. Has anyone hear tried both tabs and know if the difference is worth sacrificing the dock?
The pixelated look of the tf300 screen does kinda bother me a little.
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I'm still within my 30 days for my tf300, and I have to return it because of a piece of dust stuck under the display glass. I also bought the tf300 dock and find it quite useful. Im thinking of going for the tf700. But If I get the TF700, I dont think i'll be able to afford the dock. Has anyone hear tried both tabs and know if the difference is worth sacrificing the dock?
The pixelated look of the tf300 screen does kinda bother me a little.
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the docks are interchangeable but like you said you gotta give up some stuff. Also the prime dock doesnt fit as neately
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the docks are interchangeable but like you said you gotta give up some stuff. Also the prime dock doesnt fit as neately
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Well since I bought the dock with the tab, I could easily use the refund money for the tf300 dock to buy the infinity dock, but I would need that refund money too buy the infinity. The price of the full infinity and dock package is too much for this starving college student.
i dont understand why youre switching...the only real advantage youre getting is HD screen. the rest of the specs are negligeable
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i dont understand why youre switching...the only real advantage youre getting is HD screen. the rest of the specs are negligeable
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"Only"? In my opinion the display is one of the most important things in a tablet. Or a phone for a that matter.
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I'm still within my 30 days for my tf300, and I have to return it because of a piece of dust stuck under the display glass. I also bought the tf300 dock and find it quite useful. Im thinking of going for the tf700. But If I get the TF700, I dont think i'll be able to afford the dock. Has anyone hear tried both tabs and know if the difference is worth sacrificing the dock?
The pixelated look of the tf300 screen does kinda bother me a little.
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First things first: you are right in that the TF300 dock IS NOT compatible with the TF700 tablet! Do not heed the other poster telling you so, you will be in trouble. It was clear you knew that, but I thought I'd chime in on behalf of the less informed visiting this thread with the same question you had.
More on-topic: the keyboards are essentially the same as far as ergonomics go, so in that respect, so it'd be a matter of asking yourself if you'd miss the keyboard of the TF300 if I broke in in two on my knee at this very moment. If not, you won't miss it on the TF700. (I would, as I like the hard keyboard very much.)
As far as the screen is concerned: it's wonderful. Can;t really say anything more than that; you will absolutely notice a difference.
I cannot imagine where the reviewers who said there is not a noticeable difference between 1280x7.. and 1900x1200 gathered that from -- have they actually compared even the desktops? Sheesh.
I am definately one for high resolutions. I am trying my tf300 out without the dock, and I can get used to it. It is harder though and I can't type as much as if I had a hard keyboard.
Since a tablet is basically a touchscreen connected to an SoC package, the higher resolution does justify paying more for the pad itself.
The other thing to take into consideration is the boatloader. I know it seems weird to make that a deciding factor, but you do pay a lot for it and its a pretty serious device, so you'd expect an unlockable bootloader to be standard. (that and since I'm a CompE student, tampering is definately on my last of things to do with the device). ASUS hasn't released one yet for this tab. (I'm sure they will though)
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I am definately one for high resolutions. I am trying my tf300 out without the dock, and I can get used to it. It is harder though and I can't type as much as if I had a hard keyboard.
Since a tablet is basically a touchscreen connected to an SoC package, the higher resolution does justify paying more for the pad itself.
The other thing to take into consideration is the boatloader. I know it seems weird to make that a deciding factor, but you do pay a lot for it and its a pretty serious device, so you'd expect an unlockable bootloader to be standard. (that and since I'm a CompE student, tampering is definately on my last of things to do with the device). ASUS hasn't released one yet for this tab. (I'm sure they will though)
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Well, I think I'd go for the TF700, then, if I'd were you. The resolution indeed is superb, and the unlocked bootloader undoubtedly will be available in a few weeks. And as I said, I love the keyboard, though I wouldn't fancy typing longer reports or essays on it -- but that time lies in my (to my feeling already somewhat distant) past. ; )
Well after trying my tf300 for a while without the keyboard dock, I snapped them back together, and the difference is night and day. I have to choose between one great feature or the other, but not both. At least with the TF700 I can always get the dock later. Upgrading the screen is not quite as easy.
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First things first: you are right in that the TF300 dock IS NOT compatible with the TF700 tablet! Do not heed the other poster telling you so, you will be in trouble. It was clear you knew that, but I thought I'd chime in on behalf of the less informed visiting this thread with the same question you had
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hmmmm just got my tf700t and accidentally ordered a 300 keyboard dock.....seems to be just ducky so far....incompatible how?
more battery?....buttons?
I'll admit there is some play in the hinge system, but it stays where you put it....please advise
Chas
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>2012
>not buying the most high end of high end tablets
i shiggy diggy
JK, tf700 is best for movies, tf300 is good for anything else.
Well I took the plunge, there's a tf700 in shipment somewhere with my name on it. In just one week, it will be all mine.
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hmmmm just got my tf700t and accidentally ordered a 300 keyboard dock.....seems to be just ducky so far....incompatible how?
more battery?....buttons?
I'll admit there is some play in the hinge system, but it stays where you put it....please advise
Chas
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Is there a return policy for your dock? If so, you can probably just exchange it for the correct one.
I'd exchange it for insurance reasons.
I'm just thinking if something dock related went wrong with your (very expensive top of the line) tablet, and you were using the wrong dock, you warranty would be void, and you would be out of luck.
Plus the correct dock would look and fit better.
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MartyHulskemper said:
First things first: you are right in that the TF300 dock IS NOT compatible with the TF700 tablet! Do not heed the other poster telling you so, you will be in trouble. It was clear you knew that, but I thought I'd chime in on behalf of the less informed visiting this thread with the same question you had
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hmmmm just got my tf700t and accidentally ordered a 300 keyboard dock.....seems to be just ducky so far....incompatible how?
more battery?....buttons?
I'll admit there is some play in the hinge system, but it stays where you put it....please advise
Chas
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Well, if it fits.... it... .errrmm.... fits.
All kidding aside, I do think the battery in the TF201/700 dock is more powerful, but I'd have to look that one up to be sure. I believe the connectors are essentially the same, although the placement might be off a bit -- since that didn't stop you from docking the tablet, I wouldn't mind too much. The Prime's dock is compatible with recent firmware, even if slightly off-color, but I do not know what the specific reasoning was behind the TF300's not being compatible (except for the thickness of the tablet, and the resulting lack of "hinge fit").
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MartyHulskemper said:
First things first: you are right in that the TF300 dock IS NOT compatible with the TF700 tablet! Do not heed the other poster telling you so, you will be in trouble. It was clear you knew that, but I thought I'd chime in on behalf of the less informed visiting this thread with the same question you had.
More on-topic: the keyboards are essentially the same as far as ergonomics go, so in that respect, so it'd be a matter of asking yourself if you'd miss the keyboard of the TF300 if I broke in in two on my knee at this very moment. If not, you won't miss it on the TF700. (I would, as I like the hard keyboard very much.)
As far as the screen is concerned: it's wonderful. Can;t really say anything more than that; you will absolutely notice a difference.
I cannot imagine where the reviewers who said there is not a noticeable difference between 1280x7.. and 1900x1200 gathered that from -- have they actually compared even the desktops? Sheesh.
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WHAT TROUBLE? tf300 dock works just fine on tf700.- I have tf300 and tf700. So here is the pix
Please don't tell people something what you did not even try
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WHAT TROUBLE? tf300 dock works just fine on tf700.- I have tf300 and tf700. So here is the pix
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THANK YOU. My wife dropped her Prime so I'm going to hand her down my TF300 but I couldn't stand the though of loosing my keyboard as I've grown quite accustomed to it when traveling. I was on the fence and not having to drop another $150 on the dock is the deciding factor. TF700 here I come.
PS Anyone looking to buy a 201 with a cracked screen. Dig works....
I tried my tf700 in a tf300 dock. It works but the fit is terrible. The tf300 is thicker than the tf700. I would reccomend selling your tf300 dock on ebay, and buying a prime or infinity dock with the money.
Hi,
I got a tf700t and i bought a tf300t dock as there were no other docks and it looked asit wworkks. The dock fits ok (slightly loose) , and the keyboard works ok and is detected by the tablet as (DOCK EC20N 0207). But when docked the dock does not seem to charge the tablet. The tablet battry depleets andthe taab turns off while the dock reminsat 97% charge.
Anybody else having this? Or is my doock broken?
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Hi ALL,
This post is to address the confusion regarding the difference between the TF-201 only doc and the TF-700 Infinity dock that was released at the same time as the Infinity that I like many orderd the package on release day, (paying full MSRP for both, some paid more, where TF-201 doc is available easily $50-$60 cheaper, hence the importance of figuring out the distinction). The common theory is there is no real difference... that I shared once I received my TF-700 dock and saw no external differences other than a few stickers, and no differences what so ever in capability. There was a reported reduction in battery capacity in the TF-700 dock and change in battery position to distribute weight more effectively to prevent tip overs, but all indications (model number on box, in BIOS, etc.) indicate that this isn't true, that we all received repackaged TF-201 docks. Given the dramatic price difference (50% more in price), and the fact that I have been a loyal Asus customer for years, if Asus is going downhill and resorting to blatant misleading of their customers just to make a buck, IMO I can no longer trust anything that company says, and to me, beyond all else, trust is the most important when selecting your supplier of choice.
Their honesty regarding product issues, their innovation, and fantastic value (in most cases) for Asus products will be missed, but there are other great choices out there (and cheaper too), so do not despair. In the last month alone, even before the first reviews hit the inet (either professional or consumer) I have purchased an Asus Z77 Premium motherboard (their TOTL 1155 Z77 motherboard, and NOT CHEAP). I also got their GTX670 Direct CUII TOP video card (TOP version supposedly means it has the best binned video ships of all of the 670s for better over clocks and over all stability), but based on the cumulative results across then the inet on the comparisons between the standard Direct DUII and the TOP version I regularly see the normal version doing better (sometimes significantly) than the TOP versions, sometimes not, it basically looks like a TOP is no different than a standard model. These tests are controlled and documented tests, with one variable, which card is used in the test bed, everything else was done properly. In other words, I believe now that I payed an extra $30 for three letter printed on a box that mean nothing(MINE OVERCLOCKS HORRIBLY BTW), and overclocking is what paying the extra $30 for the TOP versions is FOR, they even given you an app overclock by pushing a button in their auto-oveclock app, so it is certainly a "supported and encouraged" practice. I bring this other example up because I am thinking that this dock thing is not an isolated incident. I am depressed to loose a friend/hardware partner where the only benefit is increasing the margin just a tiny bit. I have also just purchased the ASUS Zenbook Prime UX31A-DB51 13.3-Inch Ultrabook (SSD, ULV i-5, over a grand for that), and now I am wondering what I got into on that front. Now on to the proof...
All of the ones on the left in the SxS's are the TF-700s, (you can tell in the TF 700 because its stickers is missing the claim of 18hr battery life on the sticker on the palm rest). For the close ups, with only one dock, the pic is labeled with which doc it is.
which one is the tf201 and tf700 docks?
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Fixed, the TF-700 is always the one of the left when disassembled and side by side, I forgot tot annotate the pics, I am TIRED .
P.S. Sad when you cannot even tell them apart, Asus really pulled a fast one IMO.
Well I guess it's nice to see that they both have a 2940 mAh battery...
And the circuit board of TF700 dock, just below the wide black ribbon cable, says "TF201 docking"...
I really want to know what Asus have to say about these findings. I wonder how Asus will try and dig themselves out of this one...
So moral of the story is to get the Primes dock? I'm thinking about buying a dock. Whats the point in spending $60 extra for the same thing? I can use that towards school! And beverages!!!
The Country Product Manager ASUS Romania & Bulgaria has sent me an email on July:
"Both docking stations, for TF201 and TF700, are identical, with same battery 2940mAh(22Wh)"
So, is official, not a new discovery!
On the other side, Asus write on the official website of TF700, a different thing:
Battery: 19.5Wh + (The Eee Pad Transformer Prime mobile dock is NOT compatible with Transformer Pad Infinity)
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So moral of the story is to get the Primes dock? I'm thinking about buying a dock. Whats the point in spending $60 extra for the same thing? I can use that towards school! And beverages!!!
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Yep! Buy the TF201 dock at a discount while you can because they are identical. My TF700 dock is going back. I might send it all back and boycott Asus because of their shady business practices but I am undecided at this point because my second choice at this point is an iPad 3 but they do not support mouse functionality as far as I know and that's almost a deal killer for me.
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Yep! Buy the TF201 dock at a discount while you can because they are identical. My TF700 dock is going back. I might send it all back and boycott Asus because of their shady business practices but I am undecided at this point because my second choice at this point is an iPad 3 but they do not support mouse functionality as far as I know and that's almost a deal killer for me.
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Agreed, i got the 201 dock up the street at Best buy for $99 ($105 after tax). Probably will be able to find it cheaper online, but in my case I had an $80 BB gift card burning a hole in my wallet, and I rarely shop there, so it was a match made in heaven . My other one is going back as well.
Guys guys guys. These ARE NOT identical. The difference is rather noticable too. If you all would stop ranting and raving about being ripped off for just a moment you would see that one is a small "check" big "2" while the other is a big "check" small... well a zero or something, hard to tell. This is a clear performance edge over whichever is supposed to be the older one.
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That bolded statement alone makes me think you have no clue what you are talking about. From what I have been reading, there are no performance issues using the Primes (that would be your dubbed "older one") dock with the Infinity. It works perfectly well. And going through those pictures, I can see no visual difference between the docks. The Infinity's battery is supposed to be less but you can see clearly in the pictures that the batteries are the exact same minus the printing.
Plus your 'proof' makes no sense but that is probably because I don't have either dock.
Just my honest opinion.
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I detected a hint of sarcasm in Chief's post.
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I detected a hint of sarcasm in Chief's post.
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Gotcha. Sorry Chief
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asuseeepad .net/transformer-keyboard. php
Just connect the above fragments, I'm not able to post external links yet.
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asuseeepad .net/transformer-keyboard. php
Just connect the above fragments, I'm not able to post external links yet.
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Thanks, very nice page and history. I have to ask, can someone point me to a URL to teach me how to take pics like that specifically ? I have a Canon S95, T3i with an excellent Macro lense, SX230, and other nice cameras which certainly would have been clearer, but nothing like what the page you linked would look like (mainly how they make it look like they took the pics in white space. I was using my Galaxy IIs to take the pics of my work last night, time was of the essence given it was really late, I was also working at the same time, and had an early AM (that I missed cos I overslept :/).
Not asking for a full blown photography page to tell me how to check and adjust WB and all of that, just specifically how they take the pics so the hardware just seems to be floating in white... I don't see ANY edges at all to indicate PSing. Do they just have it on a stand perhaps with a perfectly white back ground or something? I will update my pics with much better ones soon, but I would LOVE to be able to post pics like that website .
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I detected a hint of sarcasm in Chief's post.
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Ha, yea just a little sarcasm was meant to be delivered there. No biggie, I'm a bit of an asshat at times so if not for this I'm sure I deserve it for something else.
Again, connect the fragments )
.lifeisaprayer .com /articles /photography /keying-out-backgrounds-photoshop
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Again, connect the fragments )
.lifeisaprayer .com /articles /photography /keying-out-backgrounds-photoshop
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AWESOME, thanks!!
Very sneaky Asus... Glad I got the TF201 dock at best buy for $99, I almost waited for the 700 dock, that woulda been a waste...
Thanks for the images and review.
Hi,
I want to order a keyboard dock but I'm not sure what I should do. It looks like the only dock for sale right now is the Tf201 dock rebranded. Is there a real TF700 dock somewhere out there?
imperialprobe said:
Hi,
I want to order a keyboard dock but I'm not sure what I should do. It looks like the only dock for sale right now is the Tf201 dock rebranded. Is there a real TF700 dock somewhere out there?
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It's a little confusing, but Asus designed the TF700 (Transformer Infinity) tablet to use the same keyboard dock as the previous Transformer model, the TF201 (Transformer Prime). Therefore, the official correct dock for the TF700 is the TF201 dock. Asus has made this more confusing than it already was by marketing it as a different unit, and placing stickers over the "TF201" to say "TF700". Stores still sell the TF201-stickered dock for less, as it's for an older tablet. The boxes stickered as TF700 dock (inside all documentation says TF201 and the product is detected as TF201) are considered a new accessory for the new tablet, so they're marked at full price.
If you can get the TF201 dock for less than the TF700 dock, you might as well, since they're the exact same.
If you see battery times listed differently, don't be confused. The TF700 tablet uses more power, so the same dock gets less battery life than on the Transformer Prime). It has been confirmed that the same battery cells are inside docks marked TF201 and TF700.
In summary, the REAL TF700 dock is the both the "rebranded TF201" and the non-rebranded TF201 dock.
How sure are we that the docks are the exact same? While I am using the TF201 dock from when I had my prime, I have noticed that it just doesn't fit in correctly. The lock bar that holds the tablet in place isn't sliding all of the way over, and it just seems to be a little tighter than it should be.
Don't get me wrong, just because of that I haven't gone out and gotten a new dock, but it's been on my mind because I know Best Buy does have the TF700 branded docks in stock.
Haha, and the confusion continues
It looks like all the TF201 docks are either not that cheap or out of stock. So I may just end up getting a TF700 dock and hoping it's the right fit.
imperialprobe said:
Hi,
I want to order a keyboard dock but I'm not sure what I should do. It looks like the only dock for sale right now is the Tf201 dock rebranded. Is there a real TF700 dock somewhere out there?
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Yes. I have a real TF700 dock. The color match and fit/function are exact. Buy from reputable retail establishment. I got my tab and dock from BestBuy.
There are a few threads about the differences between beyond the TF200 and TF700 docks. One even has a tear down comparison.
From what I could see and read, the only difference is color. If you want it to match the tablet, get the TF700 one. If you don't care about color matching, and want to save around $50, then you can get the TF201.
If you just want a keyboard to use, you could get portable blue tooth keyboard. There are a quite a few to choose from that are for phones and tablets. I already had a Freedom Pro Keyboard that I used with my Evo 4G. I just bought a portable folding tablet stand.
Based on what I've been reading, I personally feel that there *are* some very slight differences between the two docks, mainly with the color and the actual docking portion of the dock. It seems that the TF201-only dock has some slight differences that cause the locking mechanism to not quite lock properly - I've also read that the TF700 version of the keyboard dock just seems to fit better than the TF201-only dock.
I do realize that there was a teardown of both, but what you can't see in that teardown is whether or not the internal parts and fit of the actual docking portion are exactly the same or not. Like I said, I've read quite a few posts where the locking mech doesn't automatically lock on the TF201-only dock - have not heard of that issue with any of the docks labeled for the TF700. I've also read that the docking portion of the docks are slightly different to accommodate the shape differences of the TF201 and TF700 tablets.
Personally, I'd spend the extra $$ to get the dock labeled for the TF700. Over the lifetime of this expensive tablet, the extra $50 (or whatever the difference is) isn't a big deal for some peace of mind that you've done everything that you could to make sure everything works properly...
Just my opinion.
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I have a 201 doc(actually bought as 201 dock) fit is perfect, latch works perfectly, difference is insignificant.
I will tell you my reasoning as to why I do not believe there is actually a 700 dock.
1) Asus can't get their story straight about whether the 201 doc is even compatible.(I call BS)
2) 700 docks are covered in stickers saying 700 that cover the text saying 201(I call total BS)
3) Teardowns show insignificant differences, as in differences between production runs of the same model.
3) An asus rep came on here saying they were different, different color, different internal layouts, different battery sizes, which the tear downs have shown the last two to be complete an utter lies.(I Call Fraud)
4) Said Asus REP has completely refused to comment on the tear down after making those absurd statements(OOPS I got caught, time to hide)
5) 201 docks have all but dissapeared and are now replaced with the label ridden 700 dock and listed as compatible for the 700. if the fit is wrong between the 700 and the 201 dock then the fit must be wrong between the 201 and the 700 dock, but they don't make the 201 dock anymore.
I think a lot of people on here want to believe that their 50 bucks was well spent and are hunting for reasons to think the 700 dock isn't the rip-off it really is. No offense to anyone, it's human nature, but until someone shows me a teardown with a smaller battery shifted to the front of that dock for better weight balance I'm not buying it. Any difference people think they see are production run differences.
Just my 2c
Buy the 201 dock, it's usually cheaper. I ordered one off Amazon last week for $120, and it works flawlessly with my Infinity. Like they were made for each other.
Apparently there are some subtle difference between this and the older dock that makes it compatible with 'future' devices.
http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-I...?ie=UTF8&qid=1349377912&sr=8-3&keywords=tf700
Note: The TF500 Mobile Dock is the newest version of the TF201/TF700 Mobile Dock. The TF500 dock incorporates subtle revisions intended to enhance compatibility with future devices, but is otherwise identical to the TF700 dock. It is compatible with ASUS TF201 and TF700 tablets.
Meh
From a review:
How does it differ with the original TF201 dock? According to everything ASUS has written, the answer is that the new TF700T dock 1) has better weight distribution to prevent tipping over, 2) has a slightly smaller battery with slightly less charge, and 3) costs up to $50 more (but I see they're lowering the prices on these as I type this).
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I'll keep my dock, works perfect with the TF700
"Slightly smaller battery"?
ASUS Transformer Infinity TF500 / TF700 Mobile Dock - Amethyst Gray
Adds 4.5 Hours Battery Life
Asus Transformer Prime TF201 Mobile Docking - Amethyst Gray (TF201-DOCK-GR)
Adds 6 Hours of Battery Life
I find 1.5 hours quite a lot for a mobile device. Especially since "Battery life test conditions: Play 720p movie + [email protected] + External microphone + Wi-Fi turned on and logged in to gmail" (Asus TF700 Website) means it can be up to several days more charge when idle with WiFi off....
I'll keep my TF201 dock, thanks.
I still think there's no difference.
I think this is a cover-up by Asus. What I imagine happened is that Asus knew their Prime dock had dropped in price, but saw the release of the Infinity as an opportunity to sell docks at full price again, even though the Infinity was designed specifically to use the "Transformer-line dock". They never planned to create a new dock for the Infinity. That's a story - an excuse - a justification for raising the price of the SAME dock.
Why is it quoted as having less battery life? I'll tell you why. The dock was originally marketed to the Prime, which is what they based the battery-life spec on. Guess what? The Infinity consumes more power than the Prime. If they continue to advertise the dock providing 6 hours of additional power, that's only going to be true for a Prime, and becomes a false advertisement if used on the Infinity. Isn't it convenient that changing this spec makes people think it must be a truly different dock? Makes people who believe this feel better about spending $150 rather than $100.
Shame on Asus for lying, and see what happens, kids, when you lie... you have to keep lying to cover up your other lies. And when you're discovered... let's just say it would have been better if you were honest to begin with. I know, you wouldn't have made as much money that way. *shaking head*
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Doesn't the reduced battery life of the TF700 dock have more to do with the fact it needs to power the higer resolution screen?
stray_pube said:
Doesn't the reduced battery life of the TF700 dock have more to do with the fact it needs to power the higer resolution screen?
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The dock does have smaller batter, but this dock is not just for the TF700, it made for the new Asus TF500
http://www.talkandroid.com/127619-mysterious-asus-tf500t-shows-up-at-the-fcc/
I bought my dock at BB. on my box, you can clearly see that there is a sticker over the barcode area for the device P/N:
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Underneath it it says 201. I'll keep it.
***nvm wrong thread...
ShadowLea said:
"Slightly smaller battery"?
ASUS Transformer Infinity TF500 / TF700 Mobile Dock - Amethyst Gray
Adds 4.5 Hours Battery Life
Asus Transformer Prime TF201 Mobile Docking - Amethyst Gray (TF201-DOCK-GR)
Adds 6 Hours of Battery Life
I find 1.5 hours quite a lot for a mobile device. Especially since "Battery life test conditions: Play 720p movie + [email protected] + External microphone + Wi-Fi turned on and logged in to gmail" (Asus TF700 Website) means it can be up to several days more charge when idle with WiFi off....
I'll keep my TF201 dock, thanks.
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The battery has the same Watt hours, however since the 700 is a higher power drain than the 200 the same battery will last less time. Battery run time does not equal battery capacity when used on different devices.
I think he may have a point there.
I cannot confirm that the TF500 dock is same or not, *BUT* I can see this:
http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_Prime_TF201_Mobile_Dock/#specifications - TF201 dock has a 22Wh battery, and is supposed to deliver up to 14 total hours on the Prime, but the dock for the 700 only listed at http://www.asus.com/Tablet/Transformer_Pad/ASUS_Transformer_Pad_Infinity_TF700T/ shows a total of 14H (4.5).
Yes, we've already seen that the current batch of docks for the 700 are, in fact, the 201 docks. So, while the battery capacity on a 201 dock is the same for all 201 docks, the amount of actual running time will be different b/c, apparently, the 700 draws more power than the 201.
I actually spotted a physical difference regarding battery capacity when researching before buying the 700, and I believe it came down to the 201 dock having 25 Wh of battery capacity while the 'true' 700 dock had 'only' 22.5 Wh of battery capacity. BUT, then that might have been the reviewer 'retro-speccing' the dock -- just doing the math going from the known battery capacity of the 201 dock and the respective added operational time for the TF201 and TF700... I have the 201 dock and I am happy.
I have a TF201 dock keyboard that I use with my TF700T 4-6 hours each day. After inserting the tablet into my dock keyboard the first thing that happened was an upgrade to the keyboard. So any future use of the dock keyboard with a tablet upgrade can be fixed with another upgade to the keyboard from past experience.
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The battery has the same Watt hours, however since the 700 is a higher power drain than the 200 the same battery will last less time. Battery run time does not equal battery capacity when used on different devices.
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http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_Prime_TF201_Mobile_Dock/#specifications
22Wh(dock) Li-polymer Battery
http://www.asus.com/Tablet/Transformer_Pad/ASUS_Transformer_Pad_Infinity_TF700T/#specifications
19.5Wh(dock) Li-polymer Battery
I might be mistaken, but from what I remember from physics and engineering, a lower Watt capacity means less power. Evidently, the TF201 dock is more powerful than the TF700 one....
ShadowLea said:
http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_Prime_TF201_Mobile_Dock/#specifications
22Wh(dock) Li-polymer Battery
http://www.asus.com/Tablet/Transformer_Pad/ASUS_Transformer_Pad_Infinity_TF700T/#specifications
19.5Wh(dock) Li-polymer Battery
I might be mistaken, but from what I remember from physics and engineering, a lower Watt capacity means less power. Evidently, the TF201 dock is more powerful than the TF700 one....
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You remember well.
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kind of sh***y that they would release a dock that is "More compatible with future versions" months after they released the product with its own dock. This should have been much better coordinated or they should not have released a TF700 dock.
It might be for rumored Nexus 10" device ~december. That also would be irritating. Second time in a row they release a slightly better version very shortly after the previous.
Yay technology.
Received the new TF500/TF700 dock from Amazon and it has a new model number (AD0 I think...) on the box as well as on the sticker on the underside of the dock itself. The firmware version is different too (DOCK-EC21N-0105 vs the old DOCK-EC20N-0207). My serial started with C90.
I noticed a couple of physical differences: the flexible strip lining the bottom of the docking mechanism is now the appropriate purplish color for my "gray" dock. In the original gray dock it was closer to the champagne color of the other dock version. The rubber feet are now not just glued to the flat underside surface but sit in their own round recessed receptacles.
Any chance you guys could post some pictures of this please? I returned my original dock to B&H as it was coming
apart and I'm waiting on a TF500 as a replacement.
TIA
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Received the new TF500/TF700 dock from Amazon and it has a new model number (AD0 I think...) on the box as well as on the sticker on the underside of the dock itself. The firmware version is different too (DOCK-EC21N-0105 vs the old DOCK-EC20N-0207). My serial started with C90.
I noticed a couple of physical differences: the flexible strip lining the bottom of the docking mechanism is now the appropriate purplish color for my "gray" dock. In the original gray dock it was closer to the champagne color of the other dock version. The rubber feet are now not just glued to the flat underside surface but sit in their own round recessed receptacles.
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Received my dock today, ordered it from Newegg. ASUS TF500-DOCK-GR Docking Station (Compatible w/ TF700T) - Gray
It's now listed Out of Stock and/or DISCONTINUED http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834989154
Here's the stickers from the model I received. It worked straight out the box without having to receive any firmware update. Is this the correct dock?
I've probably missed something, but the pics in OP link to Amazon show a tablet that is different to my TF700... the ports and volume rocker are moved around a bit...
kokoon said:
I've probably missed something, but the pics in OP link to Amazon show a tablet that is different to my TF700... the ports and volume rocker are moved around a bit...
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I'm guessing those pics are of the tf201? The sticker on my read compatible with both tf700 and tf201.