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ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
if you use adw launcher and custom make an icon attached to the hidden menu apk you can access the test and servicing menus like other phones BUT... if you go into test settings for phone (play around its in there) there is a menu the shows hspda (3g, hspda+ being 4g) and many other functions that are advertised on the phone that are all listed as NOT IMPLIMENTED YET!!
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming). so it would make sense why the signal on the phone is screwed up and dropping (confused phone maybe?) and why im still getting 3g speeds (slightly faster maybe from better signal reception due to upgraded hardware from my previous Vibrant).
go take a look for yourself and let me know what you think. im sure you can use desktop visualizer to get to the menu to. DONT MESS WITH ANYTHING THOUGH. i had to reset my phone and not with a hard reset, but a recovery i found on a nvflash website. almost bricked it. so just look but don't touch anything important unless you know what your doing.
im looking forward to hearing what everything thinks of this and the giant list of other features also saying this in the same menu. because i feel mislead just a little bit.....
I think it's just that the functions in the hidden menu aren't implemented yet.
Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
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There's a reason for that...
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming)
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I've got a hot 4g connection where I am (west Texas), you don't get 4.9-5.6mb (Speedtest) download on 3g. Did you check the T-Mobile coverage map to see if you have it in your area yet?
Edit: you also may need a new sim card. Depending on the age of the card, you might not be able to get a stable lock on to 4g (age as in what generation it was produced.. not how long you've had it)
thats possible, but im getting 3g speeds still as far as i can tell and i don't see why it wouldnt be included in the "hidden menu" if it is working since we aren't "really" supposed to know about the hidden menu. anyways just something i noticed.
menu is Hidden Menu->modem settings is where the menu is at.
and i got a new sim card (tired 2 new ones both the same) and yes i am in salt lake city and it is a 4g area for tmobile. but seems like everyone (mostly) is getting signal drops all over the place. my 2g isn't working as consistantly as it did before on my vibrant either. im sure gingerbread will fix all of this though.
I'm getting 4-8mps down in Metro Atlanta. I say 4G speed is on.
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Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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I'm having the same problem, and I've even got a 2G booster in my house. My 2G connection drops all the time on my G2X but not my Vibrant. When I look at the signal strength when it's up it's not much different than the Vibrant, -104dBm on the G2X vs -100 dBm on the Vibrant
Im at a consistent 6-9mb dl at my house with a 1mb+ ul. Im calling it 4g and have you tried your conn outside of your city to see if its just congestion on the network?
I'm also getting 4-8mbps speeds in Atlanta, 4g is definitely working.
I'm in vegas, every hour, I get only 10 or 20mn of 4g at 6Mb download speed, the rest of the time I'm on 2g. At night time,i get 4g most of the time. So I guess in the day time, they kick me back to 2g to save their bandwitch, I'm returning my phone to let them know this is not acceptable
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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Not sure but this may have as much to do with the processor and RAM speed as the connection speed.
I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
A few things, before we get too heavy handed on the FUD:
The phone is technically '4G' compatible, and it supports it out of the box.
Most of T-Mo's towers have been upgraded to support their 4G (HSPA+)
Regular HSPA caps out at about 3.5Mbps down. I've gotten as much as 7Mbps down on my G2x
Personally, I haven't had many issues with signal, but I live in Houston, so that may have something to do with it.
4g is on in Huntington Beach, and irvine.
I did notice its not a huge difference speed wise though. I had the moto cliq 3g and i would get 1mbs ish to 5mbs DL, and with the G2x im averaging about 3mbs to 7mbs. not a huge difference but the big change is Latency. I used to rock 700ms to 1000ms on 3g with my cliq, im getting around 55ms to 150ms on my G2x.
Latency is key for me though, i would prefer lower latency than higher download speeds. Due to the fact I need to vpn and voip with company network.
I found that t mobiles 3g network is still very capable in speed. the main issue i had was my cliq was underpowered to handle the t mobiles network. when i would tether my rooted nook color it would perform like a champ.
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
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Where do you live? Is it possible T-Mo may not support HSPA+ in your area?
It's also important to note that even if the towers you're connected to support HSPA+, that's only one part of the process. They also have to upgrade the data connection to the tower itself (backhaul) to ensure it can handle the speeds. If you're connected to an HSPA+ tower that doesn't have the upgraded backhaul, that could explain slow speeds.
No.
HSPA+ ("4G") is on and working. You're just not in an HSPA+ area it seems.
We're all getting faster than HSPA speeds, so we are certainly on HSPA+. Speedtests are the best way for you to verify if you are on EDGE (2G), HSPA (3G), or HSPA+ (4G).
I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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That's the thing though. The way T-Mo has their network setup, if you can get 3G from a tower, you should be able to get 4G. Period. You may not get 4G speeds, but you're technically connected to an HSPA+ tower, and thus the 4G icon. It'd be weird to connect a tower that supports HSPA at this point, but not HSPA+ (though I'm sure there are some out there)
I am a launch day EVO 4G user and a Sprint subscriber since 1999. With the new EVO 3D 4G coming out, I am at a crossroads. I am miffed not being in a Sprint 4G area while my friends with their Tbolts are rocking it here. Even my sister with her Tmobile MyTouch 4g is getting "4G" here. But, that EVO 3D is beckoning for my technolust.
Those of you with Tbolts and in an official LTE area, how well does the network work when you are moving? How well does the network handle handoffs? Is LTE useable when in a moving car?
Thanks for any input. I am seeking as much input as possible to make a consumer decision. This is not a trolling attempt and I hope no trolls attempt. I just need info.
All of that works amazing for me here in Phoenix. Almost all of the valley is covered in 4g and I get it pretty much anywhere. Works great while moving, handoffs seem to work fine.
In Columbus, OH and it is a LTE market - these days it seems they have worked out most of the kinks. Battery life is horrendous using the 4G radio - if you get the phone and have access to a WiFi AP for most of the day, use that over 4G. I mainly stay in Columbus and the 4G coverage area is rather large, I've not had problems with moving quickly and downloading anything, although I'd wonder what would happen if you wanted to use it as a carpool mobile hotspot, how stable it is in that situation I'm not sure. All and all I'm happy with the phone - and it seems Verizon is over their growing pains in the network.
4G works well when moving. I am able to make Skype Video calls while driving, and the video is clear, but not too smooth (Skype Mobile might be limiting the frame rate to 15fps). There are some data handoff issues when moving from a 4G area to a 3G area, resulting in music streams getting cut off. Most apps, when their data stream is cut off, do not intelligently reconnect, and make you have to restart the stream manually.
Initializing 4G is also not speedy. Driving out of a no-signal zone means waiting a good minute or two, as the phone goes from "no service" to "1x" to "4g". I've noticed that if you get impatient (or are just not paying attention) and invoke a data stream on "1x", the phone will not switch to "4g" until the data stream ends. This delay depends on the phone's hardware, obviously.
Also, your bandwidth varies sharply with location. The difference between New York City (2-4Mbps), Dallas (12-15Mbps), and San Francisco (3-6Mbps) is startling.
Hope this helps you.
Why go for the evo in the first place? 3d gimmick?
The tbolt while being single core runs android very well.
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Nooter said:
bandwidth varies sharply with location. The difference between New York City (2-4Mbps), Dallas (12-15Mbps), and San Francisco (3-6Mbps) is startling.
Hope this helps you.
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I'm not sure where are you pulling your data from for NYC, but look at my signature. Averaging at 25mbps during he peak hours.
Handoffs are the greatest, but overall a very pleasurable experience. I get about 8-12 down and a pretty consistent 2 up in charlotte. If you are in a good lte area, moving is not that bad. I use it to stream tv from my vulkano while moving and never really have a problem. Overall I'm happy. The only thing that I have a real issue with is GPS. Which I just got off the phone with verizon about.
Hmmm, lots of you are getting better speeds than I am seeing.
I get good coverage here in the NW Chicago burbs, but I'm only seeing 5-6 mbps down and 2-3 up. It's fast enough for my uses, but now I'm wondering why I'm not getting faster speeds....
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Hmmm, lots of you are getting better speeds than I am seeing.
I get good coverage here in the NW Chicago burbs, but I'm only seeing 5-6 mbps down and 2-3 up. It's fast enough for my uses, but now I'm wondering why I'm not getting faster speeds....
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I'm on the Northside of Chicago by Wrigley and I usually average around 10-15 mbps all day long.. Maybe because as you said you're in the northwest burbs. When I take the Metra north to Wisconsin I notice the 4G speed diminish until it's all 3G
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mrslax said:
Why go for the evo in the first place? 3d gimmick?
The tbolt while being single core runs android very well.
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Dual core snapdragon, rumour has it capable of significant overclocking or better battery life. Better display, higher resolution.And yes, 3D. Hands on reviews indicate cool factor. I am geek.
I would not come over
to "Rule the air" for the Tbolt. I am interested in real 4G, not the faux one Sprint has me paying for that I can't even get. So far, judging from the positive responses, I will
hold off buying the EVO 3D until the V gets its version. Then I will switch networks.
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North of Boston I have 4G and its working great. The comparison between LTE and 3G is incredible.
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Dual core snapdragon, rumour has it capable of significant overclocking or better battery life. Better display, higher resolution.And yes, 3D. Hands on reviews indicate cool factor. I am geek.
I would not come over
to "Rule the air" for the Tbolt. I am interested in real 4G, not the faux one Sprint has me paying for that I can't even get. So far, judging from the positive responses, I will
hold off buying the EVO 3D until the V gets its version. Then I will switch networks.
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Good move. The 4G with Verizon is no joke. Even on the outskirts of Jacksonvilles 4G area I get 10mbs down at least.
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Building penetration with Verizon LTE! I can stream YouTube HD in the crapper at work which is smack center of the building. When I canceled Sprint the other day they wanted me to stand out on the streets to get 4G coverage. Been a Sprint customer for over a decade but no more.
Verizon may drop the unlimited phone data so you may want to grandfather in sooner than later.
3D is a gimmick. I would give priority to LTE, SAMOLED+, dual core, etc. over that.
I live in Charlotte NC & I'll never go back to 3G. The difference is astounding
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North of Boston I have 4G and its working great. The comparison between LTE and 3G is incredible.
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There is no comparison
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Hmmm, lots of you are getting better speeds than I am seeing.
I get good coverage here in the NW Chicago burbs, but I'm only seeing 5-6 mbps down and 2-3 up. It's fast enough for my uses, but now I'm wondering why I'm not getting faster speeds....
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You aren't by any chance running one of the GB leaks are you?
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cant wait to get 4g!
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I'm not sure where are you pulling your data from for NYC, but look at my signature. Averaging at 25mbps during he peak hours.
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That's insane. I'll test again when I'm in NYC next.
I haven't had any handoff issues going from 4G to 4G. In fact, my best speed tests have been while on the freeway at top speed
Im in Staten Island NY and it works great in Brooklyn Staten Island And Manhattan from what i see so far
Hi just read the news at&t going lte on summer
(http://attinnovationspace.com/s/edi...k=&blogTopic=7619587&date=May 25 2011 9:30AM)
Does it means our Samsung Infuse 4g will be outdated that quick?
What are we going to do with this phone?!
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Until the battery drain issues that plague LTE phones are solved I think I'll be using and loving might I add my Infuse...
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Until the battery drain issues that plague LTE phones are solved I think I'll be using and loving might I add my Infuse...
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No I don't think the infuse has a LTE chip in it. LTE is a completely separate chip and it eats batteries like CRAZY!!!!!
I get about 8mbs down in my work area and 6MB at home.... I am pretty satisfied with those speeds.... Stream movies no problem on it.
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No I don't think the infuse has a LTE chip in it. LTE is a completely separate chip and it eats batteries like CRAZY!!!!!
I get about 8mbs down in my work area and 6MB at home.... I am pretty satisfied with those speeds.... Stream movies no problem on it.
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You mean Yes not NO lol
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No I don't think the infuse has a LTE chip in it. LTE is a completely separate chip and it eats batteries like CRAZY!!!!!
I get about 8mbs down in my work area and 6MB at home.... I am pretty satisfied with those speeds.... Stream movies no problem on it.
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Really not true. Lte is great. The thunderbolt just has a tiny battery. Those claiming they don't want it haven't used it.
I get 4-5 times your download speed with lower ping for the same price. Upload is probably way more. And 6mb on att is hardly consistent.
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Well we have battery issue in Infuse 4g too even without LTE and [email protected] remove the option to turn off 4g, when you charge your infuse, try to turn off data network to turn off 4g,you will notice charging will cut in almost half the time even with wifi on, so 4g on the infuse is always turned on, is the main cause battery is poor not the big screen.
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turn off data network to turn off 4g- charging will cut in almost half the time, even with wifi on, so 4g on infuse always turned on is the main cause battery is poor not the big screen
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No different than 3G.
Display is the number one battery drain (depending on use). Followed by the radio(s).
rjan22 said:
Well we have battery issue in Infuse 4g too and [email protected] remove the option to turn.off 4g, when you charhe your infuse try to turn off data network to turn off 4g- charging will cut in almost half the time, even with wifi on, so 4g on infuse always turned on is the main cause battery is poor not the big screen
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Yeah, i have no idea what that says. I tried to read it 3 times.
I'm assuming it was a rebuttal. HSPA+ isn't a significant difference from 3g. Disagree completely with it draining much faster.
I wouldn't want LTE ability even if it was available for the Infuse. I see what it does to my friends Thunderbolt and the battery life is atrocious
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Really not true. Lte is great. The thunderbolt just has a tiny battery. Those claiming they don't want it haven't used it.
I get 4-5 times your download speed with lower ping for the same price. Upload is probably way more. And 6mb on att is hardly consistent.
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The only reason why you get good download speeds right now is because Verizon is new to the 4G game and 90% of their users are on 3G so you have the advantage right now wait til you hit Att problem that IPHONE hoggers take up all the bandwith then you can comment.
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I wouldn't want LTE ability even if it was available for the Infuse. I see what it does to my friends Thunderbolt and the battery life is atrocious
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htc always has bad battery life. have you ever seen an evo? even the inspire users i see complain.
Not interested myself....
LTE or WiMax devices all have putrid battery life and everyone I know that have an evo or thunderbolt keep their 4g off or else they wouldn't make it through HALF a day....plus 4g reception is spotty at best...
No thanks...
HSPA+ is every where you have a 3g connection....and uses no more battery then being on regular HSPA...
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I also thought that HSDPA is capable of upto 21 MBPS. I get 6-7 megs down now. what do we really need. I can stream just fine with that and most places I go have wifi.
i used to think highly of lte and lowly of hspa+ as 4g. wimax, lte, and hspa+ are actually all rehashes of 3g technology modified enough to be considered 4g. the problem i have with lte is that the phones are very thick and the battery life is horrible. it makes a better phone when you actually turn 4g off, and thats not good on verizon since their 3g maxes out at 1.5mbit if your lucky. lte is the future of cell phone tech but its seems its not ready right now. ill wait for a good 4g phone.
i do have to say i find verizons diversity of lte phones quite peculiar. the htc thunderbolt, samsung charge, and lg revolution all have 4.3" wvga screens, 1.3mp front cameras, 8mp 720p rear cameras, 1ghz snapdragon processors, all very thick and have bad battery life. no smaller screens or slide out keyboards or any real selections are to be found.
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i used to think highly of lte and lowly of hspa+ as 4g. wimax, lte, and hspa+ are actually all rehashes of 3g technology modified enough to be considered 4g. the problem i have with lte is that the phones are very thick and the battery life is horrible. it makes a better phone when you actually turn 4g off, and thats not good on verizon since their 3g maxes out at 1.5mbit if your lucky. lte is the future of cell phone tech but its seems its not ready right now. ill wait for a good 4g phone.
i do have to say i find verizons diversity of lte phones quite peculiar. the htc thunderbolt, samsung charge, and lg revolution all have 4.3" wvga screens, 1.3mp front cameras, 8mp 720p rear cameras, 1ghz snapdragon processors, all very thick and have bad battery life. no smaller screens or slide out keyboards or any real selections are to be found.
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even the bionic specs out exactly the same, they apparrently need to revamp it though. the verizon techs at the store said it had heat issues.
and i head the droid 3 and x2 are not going to be 4g.
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htc always has bad battery life. have you ever seen an evo? even the inspire users i see complain.
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LOL... I had an inspire and went back to iPhone after 2 weeks. I HATED the battery. I'd charge it, go to bed, and wake up and it'd have auto powered off, WTF?!!?
I returned it. I just bought an Infuse 4G... haven't set it up yet, hopefully it's nice on batter.
And FYI on LTE: Seriously? AT&T hasn't launched a single market on LTE... by the time they have the top 50 markets covered it'll be Summer 2012... get real, of course the Infuse doesn't have LTE, haha. If they launch LTE handsets by mid 2012 I'd be shocked. This is AT&T we're talking about.
I just got my s2 i777 and I love my phone but now I see you can get it online only. The only ones they sale or the skyrocket. Should I stick with this or upgrade while I still have the option. I don't live in a LTE area. Please give me your opinion's. Thanks.
PS AT&T just put two new towers in my area so I have HSPA+ about 90% of the time.
I'm looking for people that had the i777 and then got the skyrocket.
Skyrocket. Do it. No balls.
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Why buy a lte phone if you dont have access to lte speeds?
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Why buy a lte phone if you dont have access to lte speeds?
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Cause there ain't nuttin better lol, but i dont have lte, if you buy a non lte phone youll have the same speeds anyway. Go for the rocket
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Why buy a lte phone if you dont have access to lte speeds?
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Because your stuck in a 2 year contract and maybe in those two years LTE will be in your area, so if you buy a non lte phone your screwed either way. Plus, never know, you may move to a LTE area...
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Because your stuck in a 2 year contract and maybe in those two years LTE will be in your area, so if you buy a non lte phone your screwed either way. Plus, never know, you may move to a LTE area...
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I understand the point about being stuck in a contract. I would avoid the contract myself but on the other hand if he knows hes gonna stick with 1 carrier then why not.
Its kinda hard for me to judge this seeing how i have been on LTE for almost a year and it doesnt seem like a big deal to me.
One thing the topic creator should know is the i777 and skyrocket are pretty much different phones so if hes into flashing roms that may make a difference in his decision.
Don't, just stick with what you got. Wait till something comes out don't jump on a phone now. In 6 months time you will find something else better and won't be able to get it. Just my opinion.
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Skyrocket. Do it. No balls.
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Bahahaha made my day
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I would wait also there will so many more choices in a few months the s2 you have is probably a better phone if you don't have lte. And there is so much more rom wise to flash for your s2 than the skyrocket
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If you're within the return period and you think there's a high likelihood of LTE coming to your city in the next two years, then I would switch (this is what I did).
Otherwise, the i777 is just as good as or better than the Skyrocket (unless you really gotta have that extra 0.2' screen real estate). Other than LTE, the only thing that I liked better about the Skyrocket is that the screen wakes up faster when you press the power button. Otherwise, they're pretty much the same. You should wait until until the Skyrocket HD, Sony Ion, or any other new phone coming out this year.
Just do it!
I've had both and they're pretty much the same phone. Some people say exynos processor and all that other junk....real usage they are the same.
If you think you'll get LTE in the next two years get an LTE phone.
Also..buy it off the market place or Craigslist, screw signing a contract.
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I started with the 777 and swapped to the 727 25 days into the contract when I heard that LTE was coming to KC.
Both are great handsets, but glad to have LTE-- which is rolling out quickly, so if you are in a metro area there is a good chance you will have it in the next year or so.
If you can switch for not much cost I would say do it.
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What phone to go with is going to depend a LOT on where you are. My wife as the 777 and I have the skyrocket. Outside of network they feel like the same phone just mine is a little bigger . In Chicago outside of LTE att's data network is beyond slow it takes about a minute to load a webpage on utms or hspa during rush hour. On lte it's just as fast as when I'm on wifi.
Keep your S2 if you don't have LTE, trust me it's a better phone, imo I prefer the 4'3 size, the square body,it's lighter too, the processor is definately better I used to have a S2 and switched to skyrocket only cause LTE and I notice the difference a lot but I guess I was willing to trade performance over internet speeds.
Simple if no LTE S2 better, if LTE Skyrocket only if you like speeds, if you ok with H+ speeds (3-6mbps) the the S2 still a better choice.
And at the end of the year it won't matter anyways Iphone5 or S3 will be out.
I made the switch from i777 to i727. I would say it is an even trade.
LTE is amazing. If you can get it, it is as good as everyone says. Pings in the 60ms on the average. I've seen up to around 50mbps down. Even when you have weak LTE, you are still getting more than 10mbps. Because of the low pings, it truly feels like wifi. bigger screen is just a tiny bit nicer. But processor is slow. Xvid playback is choppy. 3D games don't run as smooth. Just buttery smoothness you won't get that you got with i777.
I say the i777 is one of the best phones ever made. But lacking LTE. Even though the screen is tiny bit smaller, the i777 is a bit sleeker, more elegant.
Elegant
Lucidmike said:
I made the switch from i777 to i727. I would say it is an even trade.
LTE is amazing. If you can get it, it is as good as everyone says. Pings in the 60ms on the average. I've seen up to around 50mbps down. Even when you have weak LTE, you are still getting more than 10mbps. Because of the low pings, it truly feels like wifi. bigger screen is just a tiny bit nicer. But processor is slow. Xvid playback is choppy. 3D games don't run as smooth. Just buttery smoothness you won't get that you got with i777.
I say the i777 is one of the best phones ever made. But lacking LTE. Even though the screen is tiny bit smaller, the i777 is a bit sleeker, more elegant.
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Lucidmike, more elegant?....not if you have a white skyrocket!...I is just beautiful...
I have the GS2, the Skyrocket, and the Vivid and I don't live in a LTE market and I highly doubt I will get it any time soon. I find that the LTE phones get better service in my area Compared to the HSPA+ phones.
Stay with i777, much better device. No screen or speed issues. That phones gets many more things.
Huh?? u guys r all crazy lol. I'm watching 1080p h264 on my phone with no lag or anything, the rendered your app was using must have sucked. Yes exynos is a superior chipset when compared to snapdragon s3, but that's only at the same frequency. In benchmarks its been proven that the higher clock speed of 1.5 more than makes up for the lack of architecture. Don't just spout off nonsense from other reviewers without doing your own homework
Im going to be coming from Sprint to possibly verizon. I was wondeirng a few things
1. How is the service? I get BAD 3g speeds ( around .5mb ) and 4g is decent whenever I can get it ( 5mb or so ). Whats their average 3g and 4g speeds?
2. What about phones? Im coming from the Evo and its still considered a top contender with the new phones that are out there now. I dont want an iphone, Id like to stay android. Any phones out there that are pretty good?
Any and all help is appreciated.
p.s. I know I have an at&t thread out there too, but Im looking at verizon too.
I get about 1.1mbps on 3g and 8+mbps on 4g.
verizon has a excellent variety of 4g phones..including Galaxy Nexus, HTC rezound, Droid razr / razr Maxx,LG spectrum and more.
yeah those speeds arent bad, way better than what I get. But I think AT&T is pulling more speed right?
Hey I have an evo on Sprint, so I know how those slow speeds feel.
That being said. On my Verizon iPhone, I see anywhere from 1.5mbps to 2 plus 3g, and I see folks getting 8+ lte also. This is in the Denver metro area.
If you are switching I suggest soon. Verizon is running a double your data promotion right now when you get a 4g device. my Co workers enjoy their rezounds. Galaxy nexus is good, but I have heard of network problems with them.
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Verizon has some of the best 3G coverage, thats the biggest reason I stay with them. Using the Speedtest app I get around 1.5-1.8 Mb/s down and about 0.5-0.5 Mb/s up on 3G with a good signal. I'm not sure about 4G because I don't have a 4G device and even if I did coverage will not be in my area for some time.'
The best Verizon android device out there now as far as being dev friendly and running ICS is the Galaxy Nexus. The biggest con of the nexus is its size.
Thanks. Im liking the nexus, but havent seen it in person. Im going to check it out tomorrow possibly. Now whne you say size, guess you mean the screen? I dont think that would bother me much.
Verizon is packed with good 4G LTE phones.
My average 4G speed is 8-15down and 8-15up but I've had more than a handful of times where I've hit close to 40down and 20up.
My main concern is the 3g as 4g is a milker...
Never mind
Thanks man... I afraid of the overloaded service with AT&T though... I heard their towers are overlaoded and they dont have the best connectivity.. CAn you roam on AT&T? I dont always need data, but Id like to NEVER be without phone service.
Never had data dropping issues, but the signal meter on many cell phones are very inaccurate.
On my Droid 3 the factory signal meter likes to read 5 bars down to about about -95 dBm. For some reason phone manufacturers nowadays like to make it look like you have 5 bars all the time. Luckily Android lets allows you to get the real dBm value from the radio so I know its not a hardware issue as the dBm value is much more reliable then the signal bars.
A lot of service issues depend on where you're located. I have a galaxy nexus in the Las Vegas area and have no complaints at all. This area is well provisioned for 4g though. The nexus is a great phone IMO, although mine didn't stay stock for very long so I can't really speak to how the stock phone is
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Never mind
All in all, you pay the most, but in the long run, probably worth it.
Around my area Verizon seems to be better then at&t. Less dropped calls and faster data.
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Verizon 4g/Deadspots
I am about a mile from a 4g tower and get about 1 bar(max 2 bars) with a consistent 105 dbm. There seems to be alot of deadspots in the Abingdon,MD area. 3g coverage is pretty good, but like I said, there are alot of deadspots with no coverage. I can't figure out how I can be that close to a 4g tower and still get bad coverage....maybe it's the phone....
how does one know which tower is 4g and which tower isn't?
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I am about a mile from a 4g tower and get about 1 bar(max 2 bars) with a consistent 105 dbm. There seems to be alot of deadspots in the Abingdon,MD area. 3g coverage is pretty good, but like I said, there are alot of deadspots with no coverage. I can't figure out how I can be that close to a 4g tower and still get bad coverage....maybe it's the phone....
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Thanks man. Im not too far from abington.
Lets bump this for the late night crew
I average at least 15-20mbs down and have gotten as high as 35-40mbs down on LTE.
I always have great connections, never drop calls.
My father has AT&T, hates it, Mother has Sprint, hates it. In my area Verizon is king. I rarely use 3G so I can't really comment on 3G speeds. Just looks at the current coverage maps and LTE markets for the major carriers and it's obvious Verizon is light years ahead of the rest.