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Has anyone EVER seen "3g" displayed on their status bar on this phone?

I have only ever seen it say 2g or 4g. I don't have the best coverage so I didn't think much of it, but a friend I'm Chicago is reporting the same issue.
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Same here. TMobile has to figure this out. My brother's G2 goes from 3G to H.
Mine goes from 2G to 4G.
Make it a standard as to what shows up on the screen. My understanding it even when it says 4G, you may be in 3G. Only way to know is go into network settings or run a speed test.
Kind of stupid in my opinion.

Yeah, it's not a big deal really, just annoying.
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the exact reason given to me by tmobile is that our phones only register gsm(2g) and wdcma(3G and 4G both fall under this on tmobile) so without really checking at anytime 4g could be 3g its fast either way but annoying none the less

Same here...

So the phone just doesn't ever display 3g? When I'm on the 3g network it will show 4g? Sounds a little bit like false advertising to me. I really don't care too much, but if I am getting less than 1mb down and the phone claims to be on 4g it's kinda bs.
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From what I understand, if you go to Settings > About Phone > Status > Mobile Network Type.
If it says UMTS, then your on 3G
If it says HSDPA or HSPA or HSPA+ then your on 4G.
I could be wrong, when Im out and about driving, I can run a speed test and hit 10-12 Mbps and the settings will still read as UMTS even though that appears to be 4G speeds.

jsauce75 said:
So the phone just doesn't ever display 3g? When I'm on the 3g network it will show 4g? Sounds a little bit like false advertising to me. I really don't care too much, but if I am getting less than 1mb down and the phone claims to be on 4g it's kinda bs.
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Thats exactly what im going through now. My phone right now for example shows "4G" in the status bar, but Settings/About Phone shows "UMTS" doing a speed test right now, my speeds are Download-0.53 Mbps Upload 0.41
I agree this is BS.
Tried calling TMobile to explain how the coverage map for my area says 100% complete 4G coverage but my speeds are slow as ****. Tried complaining so I can get out my contract and go to Sprint but they say as long as voice calling works slow data speeds dont permit to break contract.
But TMobile and there whole 4G compain definetly is false advertising.

ive gotten 3 or 4 different answers from various reps at tmobile but there all terrible i get fast enough service all around me even edge runs well enough but i wish they would show 3g when its 3g they act like they have amazing 4g coverage but all the new 4g phones do this at least i know the sidekick 4g does and correct me if im wrong but the g2 does as well its just a marketing scam

Hey i work for t-mobile and have the G2x. I hosted an event for the launch of the phone and had my LG rep there. She explained that LG actually forgot to put the 3G indicator on the phone. LG is supposed to be putting out a software update for that as well as the terrible battery life on their website very soon. Lets keep our fingers crossed

Ummmmm oops....
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Helluva thing to forget. If it's true.

I hope they do!!!
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Personally, I think they need to do with the G2x like they did with the ipad... stop all manufacturing of the item, until all ends and malfunctions are corrected.
including software & hardware. They're just sending stuff out, and in the end sticking it to the consumer by giving them less than quality standard work for the same amount of money they would expect to receive for something put together and functioning "correctly"
(p.s. before i get the "apple made the ipad" bull, LG created the screens, hence the same "bleeding" "light leaks" in the new ipad 2, also Samsung took over when they halted the production of LG screens)

eastonroc said:
Hey i work for t-mobile and have the G2x. I hosted an event for the launch of the phone and had my LG rep there. She explained that LG actually forgot to put the 3G indicator on the phone. LG is supposed to be putting out a software update for that as well as the terrible battery life on their website very soon. Lets keep our fingers crossed
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Well this is a lie they didnt forget anything LOL.
Look at the G2 for example which is made by HTC. It will show 2G/E or H. You will never see 3G symbol on the G2. Unless you install one of those custom roms where then the dev make the phone switch between H and 4G / 3G depending on data traffic.
Well I had bad 4G speeds in my part of town for years I finally gave up on tmobile today. Sold my G2x on craigslist and picked up a Nexus S 4G with Sprint.
I now get atleast 10 Mbps on avarage now. Proof is in the signature.

I think that might be going a little too far, but I haven't had too many major issues thus far. Just little annoying things that should be fixed with updates.
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I have an Evo and on the stock Sense ROM, the phone will display 3G even on 1x (the CDMA equivalent of EDGE). If I hop to CyanogenMod or any Sense ROM ported from another HTC phone, it'll show 1x when I roam/send a text. Also Sense ROMs have like 6 signal bars.
It's all about what the carrier wants. Hell, they could make it say 4G all the time if they want. It's weird though that they show 2G and not 3G.

hypersonicx said:
Well this is a lie they didnt forget anything LOL.
Look at the G2 for example which is made by HTC. It will show 2G/E or H. You will never see 3G symbol on the G2. Unless you install one of those custom roms where then the dev make the phone switch between H and 4G / 3G depending on data traffic.
Well I had bad 4G speeds in my part of town for years I finally gave up on tmobile today. Sold my G2x on craigslist and picked up a Nexus S 4G with Sprint.
I now get atleast 10 Mbps on avarage now. Proof is in the signature.
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You also won't get any indication that you're on hspa+, either. Just sayin', it goes both ways. You're losing something no matter what.
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I have to put my two cents in on speeds.
I started (my smarty phone odyssey) on Metropcs in Feb....most speed test ever showed was like 1.6mbps...once. Mostly at 1.4-1.5. I was very unhappy with that. Between these speeds, battery issues, no support (from Samsung), I had enuff and went to Sprint. I saw around1.0 Mbps in the beginning. When I complained, they made an adjustment on their end amd it got worse! My average was .65 up and down. Then I went back to Metro. Seems they are suddenly having speed issues. Couldn't get more than about .80, with the same other issues as before. So I've purchased the G2x.
Got two yesterday!!
Both have bleed. Doesn't bother me as it is though. Just noticeable when screen is black. It IS bs, but not a dealbreaker, if it doesn't get worse.
I see people talking about speeds of 8 and 9Mbps and I say I'd be happy with a third of that.
Personally I don't think speedtest is accurate. But I never see that discussed.
T Mobile is supposed to activate these tomorrow. I'll post my speeds. If I get anything above 4.0, I'll be in heaven.
I have looked at youtube videos via wifi and am in awe of this device. Really smooth playback. Wow. Better than the Indulge AND the Evo IMO.
My new phone is supposed to activate tommorow. Can't wait
Oh and I'm in the Dallas market. I'm on top of DFW airport. Dallas is Metros home market so system is overall good here, but I'm in a bit of a dip so reception can be an issue in my home.

ickster said:
I have to put my two cents in on speeds.
I started (my smarty phone odyssey) on Metropcs in Feb....most speed test ever showed was like 1.6mbps...once. Mostly at 1.4-1.5. I was very unhappy with that. Between these speeds, battery issues, no support (from Samsung), I had enuff and went to Sprint. I saw around1.0 Mbps in the beginning. When I complained, they made an adjustment on their end amd it got worse! My average was .65 up and down. Then I went back to Metro. Seems they are suddenly having speed issues. Couldn't get more than about .80, with the same other issues as before. So I've purchased the G2x.
Got two yesterday!!
Both have bleed. Doesn't bother me as it is though. Just noticeable when screen is black. It IS bs, but not a dealbreaker, if it doesn't get worse.
I see people talking about speeds of 8 and 9Mbps and I say I'd be happy with a third of that.
Personally I don't think speedtest is accurate. But I never see that discussed.
T Mobile is supposed to activate these tomorrow. I'll post my speeds. If I get anything above 4.0, I'll be in heaven.
I have looked at youtube videos via wifi and am in awe of this device. Really smooth playback. Wow. Better than the Indulge AND the Evo IMO.
My new phone is supposed to activate tommorow. Can't wait
Oh and I'm in the Dallas market. I'm on top of DFW airport. Dallas is Metros home market so system is overall good here, but I'm in a bit of a dip so reception can be an issue in my home.
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Sprint's been having nationwide issues for like the last 5 months. On 4G, I used to get 15 Mbps, now I get 1 Mbps. On 3G, I get 300 kbps tops. Their network is overcrowded, according to higherups I spoke to. They said it'll be fixed end of June. Not good enough.

How well is the LTE working?

I am a launch day EVO 4G user and a Sprint subscriber since 1999. With the new EVO 3D 4G coming out, I am at a crossroads. I am miffed not being in a Sprint 4G area while my friends with their Tbolts are rocking it here. Even my sister with her Tmobile MyTouch 4g is getting "4G" here. But, that EVO 3D is beckoning for my technolust.
Those of you with Tbolts and in an official LTE area, how well does the network work when you are moving? How well does the network handle handoffs? Is LTE useable when in a moving car?
Thanks for any input. I am seeking as much input as possible to make a consumer decision. This is not a trolling attempt and I hope no trolls attempt. I just need info.

All of that works amazing for me here in Phoenix. Almost all of the valley is covered in 4g and I get it pretty much anywhere. Works great while moving, handoffs seem to work fine.

In Columbus, OH and it is a LTE market - these days it seems they have worked out most of the kinks. Battery life is horrendous using the 4G radio - if you get the phone and have access to a WiFi AP for most of the day, use that over 4G. I mainly stay in Columbus and the 4G coverage area is rather large, I've not had problems with moving quickly and downloading anything, although I'd wonder what would happen if you wanted to use it as a carpool mobile hotspot, how stable it is in that situation I'm not sure. All and all I'm happy with the phone - and it seems Verizon is over their growing pains in the network.

4G works well when moving. I am able to make Skype Video calls while driving, and the video is clear, but not too smooth (Skype Mobile might be limiting the frame rate to 15fps). There are some data handoff issues when moving from a 4G area to a 3G area, resulting in music streams getting cut off. Most apps, when their data stream is cut off, do not intelligently reconnect, and make you have to restart the stream manually.
Initializing 4G is also not speedy. Driving out of a no-signal zone means waiting a good minute or two, as the phone goes from "no service" to "1x" to "4g". I've noticed that if you get impatient (or are just not paying attention) and invoke a data stream on "1x", the phone will not switch to "4g" until the data stream ends. This delay depends on the phone's hardware, obviously.
Also, your bandwidth varies sharply with location. The difference between New York City (2-4Mbps), Dallas (12-15Mbps), and San Francisco (3-6Mbps) is startling.
Hope this helps you.

Why go for the evo in the first place? 3d gimmick?
The tbolt while being single core runs android very well.
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Nooter said:
bandwidth varies sharply with location. The difference between New York City (2-4Mbps), Dallas (12-15Mbps), and San Francisco (3-6Mbps) is startling.
Hope this helps you.
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I'm not sure where are you pulling your data from for NYC, but look at my signature. Averaging at 25mbps during he peak hours.

Handoffs are the greatest, but overall a very pleasurable experience. I get about 8-12 down and a pretty consistent 2 up in charlotte. If you are in a good lte area, moving is not that bad. I use it to stream tv from my vulkano while moving and never really have a problem. Overall I'm happy. The only thing that I have a real issue with is GPS. Which I just got off the phone with verizon about.

Hmmm, lots of you are getting better speeds than I am seeing.
I get good coverage here in the NW Chicago burbs, but I'm only seeing 5-6 mbps down and 2-3 up. It's fast enough for my uses, but now I'm wondering why I'm not getting faster speeds....

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Hmmm, lots of you are getting better speeds than I am seeing.
I get good coverage here in the NW Chicago burbs, but I'm only seeing 5-6 mbps down and 2-3 up. It's fast enough for my uses, but now I'm wondering why I'm not getting faster speeds....
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I'm on the Northside of Chicago by Wrigley and I usually average around 10-15 mbps all day long.. Maybe because as you said you're in the northwest burbs. When I take the Metra north to Wisconsin I notice the 4G speed diminish until it's all 3G
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mrslax said:
Why go for the evo in the first place? 3d gimmick?
The tbolt while being single core runs android very well.
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Dual core snapdragon, rumour has it capable of significant overclocking or better battery life. Better display, higher resolution.And yes, 3D. Hands on reviews indicate cool factor. I am geek.
I would not come over
to "Rule the air" for the Tbolt. I am interested in real 4G, not the faux one Sprint has me paying for that I can't even get. So far, judging from the positive responses, I will
hold off buying the EVO 3D until the V gets its version. Then I will switch networks.
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North of Boston I have 4G and its working great. The comparison between LTE and 3G is incredible.
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liverstealerJobs said:
Dual core snapdragon, rumour has it capable of significant overclocking or better battery life. Better display, higher resolution.And yes, 3D. Hands on reviews indicate cool factor. I am geek.
I would not come over
to "Rule the air" for the Tbolt. I am interested in real 4G, not the faux one Sprint has me paying for that I can't even get. So far, judging from the positive responses, I will
hold off buying the EVO 3D until the V gets its version. Then I will switch networks.
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Good move. The 4G with Verizon is no joke. Even on the outskirts of Jacksonvilles 4G area I get 10mbs down at least.
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Building penetration with Verizon LTE! I can stream YouTube HD in the crapper at work which is smack center of the building. When I canceled Sprint the other day they wanted me to stand out on the streets to get 4G coverage. Been a Sprint customer for over a decade but no more.
Verizon may drop the unlimited phone data so you may want to grandfather in sooner than later.
3D is a gimmick. I would give priority to LTE, SAMOLED+, dual core, etc. over that.

I live in Charlotte NC & I'll never go back to 3G. The difference is astounding

Ubermicro13 said:
North of Boston I have 4G and its working great. The comparison between LTE and 3G is incredible.
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There is no comparison

///Ficarra said:
Hmmm, lots of you are getting better speeds than I am seeing.
I get good coverage here in the NW Chicago burbs, but I'm only seeing 5-6 mbps down and 2-3 up. It's fast enough for my uses, but now I'm wondering why I'm not getting faster speeds....
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You aren't by any chance running one of the GB leaks are you?
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cant wait to get 4g!

milan03 said:
I'm not sure where are you pulling your data from for NYC, but look at my signature. Averaging at 25mbps during he peak hours.
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That's insane. I'll test again when I'm in NYC next.

I haven't had any handoff issues going from 4G to 4G. In fact, my best speed tests have been while on the freeway at top speed

Im in Staten Island NY and it works great in Brooklyn Staten Island And Manhattan from what i see so far

[Q] infuse 4g or g2x

Ive had the infuse 4g for quite a while now I am very satisfied with it the scene is progessing at a steady pace but I've been interested in the gtx for quite a while my friends has been wanting my phone and I told him that if he got the g2x I would unlock both our phones and I would him mine for his what do you guys think of the

If you love edge do it hehe
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If im not mistaken, the phones run on different bands and you wont get 3/4g. So like Rjan said, if you love Edge then by all means do the swap.

Are you guys sure about the edge thing and also spec wise which is better
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silver258 said:
Are you guys sure about the edge thing and also spec wise which is better
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Absolutely. If you unlock both phones and swap, neither of you will get more than EDGE data speeds. Good luck with that.
The LG G2x is garbage, by the way. I know from experience.

ok im going to take your guys word for it because i am sure ou all have much more experience with this than I thank you all i guess here is where i say infuse for life lol

sometimes t-mo phones work on att but not the other way around. you have to check the bands for each and the bands that carriers use. t-mo uses some unique bands. sometimes you can use a canadiain modem.bin to get something wirking on att. sometimes the antennas are tuned and you cant force the radio into an att band.
so although you will have talk and edge, it is hard to say you would be able to use 3g and hspa/+ even after mods to the phone.
as far as what specs better, well the g2x has been known to have color bleed issues on the screen. if the screen is important to you the infuse specs better in that area by far. the g2x specs better in the processor and has 1080p video capture. infuse has support for more codecs.
other than that you just have to see the real word performance. the infuse has great audio hardware. but there is no ability to change recoding level presets(waiting for voodoo sound to be released for the infuse). i have no idea what audio is like on the lg. also im not sure about lg but samsungs usually take great photo's in low light conditions.

So the Infuse will not receive 3g on T-mo's network? Or was it just the LG that would suffer?

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So the Infuse will not receive 3g on T-mo's network? Or was it just the LG that would suffer?
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i do not believe the infuse will have 3g/4g on t-mo. i am uncertain about the g2x because i have heard that the vibrant works on att.

This has been answered. You cannot connect USB on Sata port and sata port to usb.
Att and T-Mobile have different frequency band on 3g.
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[Q] Should I stay with my 1777 or update to the skyrocket

I just got my s2 i777 and I love my phone but now I see you can get it online only. The only ones they sale or the skyrocket. Should I stick with this or upgrade while I still have the option. I don't live in a LTE area. Please give me your opinion's. Thanks.
PS AT&T just put two new towers in my area so I have HSPA+ about 90% of the time.
I'm looking for people that had the i777 and then got the skyrocket.

Skyrocket. Do it. No balls.
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Why buy a lte phone if you dont have access to lte speeds?

SevenSe7enSeven said:
Why buy a lte phone if you dont have access to lte speeds?
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Cause there ain't nuttin better lol, but i dont have lte, if you buy a non lte phone youll have the same speeds anyway. Go for the rocket
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Why buy a lte phone if you dont have access to lte speeds?
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Because your stuck in a 2 year contract and maybe in those two years LTE will be in your area, so if you buy a non lte phone your screwed either way. Plus, never know, you may move to a LTE area...

tmxrr said:
Because your stuck in a 2 year contract and maybe in those two years LTE will be in your area, so if you buy a non lte phone your screwed either way. Plus, never know, you may move to a LTE area...
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I understand the point about being stuck in a contract. I would avoid the contract myself but on the other hand if he knows hes gonna stick with 1 carrier then why not.
Its kinda hard for me to judge this seeing how i have been on LTE for almost a year and it doesnt seem like a big deal to me.
One thing the topic creator should know is the i777 and skyrocket are pretty much different phones so if hes into flashing roms that may make a difference in his decision.

Don't, just stick with what you got. Wait till something comes out don't jump on a phone now. In 6 months time you will find something else better and won't be able to get it. Just my opinion.
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Skyrocket. Do it. No balls.
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Bahahaha made my day
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I would wait also there will so many more choices in a few months the s2 you have is probably a better phone if you don't have lte. And there is so much more rom wise to flash for your s2 than the skyrocket
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If you're within the return period and you think there's a high likelihood of LTE coming to your city in the next two years, then I would switch (this is what I did).
Otherwise, the i777 is just as good as or better than the Skyrocket (unless you really gotta have that extra 0.2' screen real estate). Other than LTE, the only thing that I liked better about the Skyrocket is that the screen wakes up faster when you press the power button. Otherwise, they're pretty much the same. You should wait until until the Skyrocket HD, Sony Ion, or any other new phone coming out this year.

Just do it!

I've had both and they're pretty much the same phone. Some people say exynos processor and all that other junk....real usage they are the same.
If you think you'll get LTE in the next two years get an LTE phone.
Also..buy it off the market place or Craigslist, screw signing a contract.
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I started with the 777 and swapped to the 727 25 days into the contract when I heard that LTE was coming to KC.
Both are great handsets, but glad to have LTE-- which is rolling out quickly, so if you are in a metro area there is a good chance you will have it in the next year or so.
If you can switch for not much cost I would say do it.
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What phone to go with is going to depend a LOT on where you are. My wife as the 777 and I have the skyrocket. Outside of network they feel like the same phone just mine is a little bigger . In Chicago outside of LTE att's data network is beyond slow it takes about a minute to load a webpage on utms or hspa during rush hour. On lte it's just as fast as when I'm on wifi.

Keep your S2 if you don't have LTE, trust me it's a better phone, imo I prefer the 4'3 size, the square body,it's lighter too, the processor is definately better I used to have a S2 and switched to skyrocket only cause LTE and I notice the difference a lot but I guess I was willing to trade performance over internet speeds.
Simple if no LTE S2 better, if LTE Skyrocket only if you like speeds, if you ok with H+ speeds (3-6mbps) the the S2 still a better choice.
And at the end of the year it won't matter anyways Iphone5 or S3 will be out.

I made the switch from i777 to i727. I would say it is an even trade.
LTE is amazing. If you can get it, it is as good as everyone says. Pings in the 60ms on the average. I've seen up to around 50mbps down. Even when you have weak LTE, you are still getting more than 10mbps. Because of the low pings, it truly feels like wifi. bigger screen is just a tiny bit nicer. But processor is slow. Xvid playback is choppy. 3D games don't run as smooth. Just buttery smoothness you won't get that you got with i777.
I say the i777 is one of the best phones ever made. But lacking LTE. Even though the screen is tiny bit smaller, the i777 is a bit sleeker, more elegant.

Elegant
Lucidmike said:
I made the switch from i777 to i727. I would say it is an even trade.
LTE is amazing. If you can get it, it is as good as everyone says. Pings in the 60ms on the average. I've seen up to around 50mbps down. Even when you have weak LTE, you are still getting more than 10mbps. Because of the low pings, it truly feels like wifi. bigger screen is just a tiny bit nicer. But processor is slow. Xvid playback is choppy. 3D games don't run as smooth. Just buttery smoothness you won't get that you got with i777.
I say the i777 is one of the best phones ever made. But lacking LTE. Even though the screen is tiny bit smaller, the i777 is a bit sleeker, more elegant.
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Lucidmike, more elegant?....not if you have a white skyrocket!...I is just beautiful...

I have the GS2, the Skyrocket, and the Vivid and I don't live in a LTE market and I highly doubt I will get it any time soon. I find that the LTE phones get better service in my area Compared to the HSPA+ phones.

Stay with i777, much better device. No screen or speed issues. That phones gets many more things.

Huh?? u guys r all crazy lol. I'm watching 1080p h264 on my phone with no lag or anything, the rendered your app was using must have sucked. Yes exynos is a superior chipset when compared to snapdragon s3, but that's only at the same frequency. In benchmarks its been proven that the higher clock speed of 1.5 more than makes up for the lack of architecture. Don't just spout off nonsense from other reviewers without doing your own homework

Am I the only one...

NOT looking forward to lte being turned on in my area? I feel like hspa+ speeds are plenty fast for me and the battery draining nature of lte and having no ability to turn it off on my att brand is not something I'm looking forward to. I'm sure I'm in the minority. I am rooted and running the latest cleanrom by the way.
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powerwagon said:
NOT looking forward to lte being turned on in my area? I feel like hspa+ speeds are plenty fast for me and the battery draining nature of lte and having no ability to turn it off on my att brand is not something I'm looking forward to. I'm sure I'm in the minority. I am rooted and running the latest cleanrom by the way.
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Not all hspa+ is equal. It's super slow in Philly. Center city and the stadiums are terrible. Network is super congested. I cross the bridge on my way home and it's good for me, until I get home where it's slow again.

It's not nearly as taxing on the battery as you might think. Yesterday I had 3.5 hrs screen on time and made it from 7 am to 11 pm before I plugged it in at 30%. Didn't use wifi once yesterday, had LTE connection the entire time. Be happy you're getting it, AT&T's LTE kicks some serious butt.

No more lte for me (I'm now on ST) but I'm ok with my hspa+, i usually get 5-8mb down speed @ home. Lte is awesome btw, I'm sure ST will get it soon.
Long live the One X

People, for whatever reason, still have the expectation that the LTE chip is separate from the processor, which is a massive battery drain.
The HOX has it integrated into the s4. Being on LTE really has negligible effect on battery. I have phenomenal battery life here in atlanta on LTE.