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Kaiser For Sale!!!

just got my Kaiser (AT&T Tilt) less than a month ago. works great, it's just not for me. my Krzr just works better for me and i'm much more comfortable with it. i live in the Bay Area in CA and would love to sell it to a fellow ROM flasher before i go to e-bay. i can provide pics if need be but i honestly barely used it. it maybe has 90 mins of talk time on it and 20 mins of internet usage before i decided it wasn't for me. i flashed back to the Original AT&T ROM and reverted to original Radio and SPL so it's back to OUT-OF-BOX stock. have the Original CD and of course manuals and USB cable. buyer pays for shipping and i will ship same day of sale if possible.
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sorry if this post does not belong here but as stated above, i can EASILY sell on e-bay so i figured i'd give first crack to you guys/gals.
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also just an FYI, no SIM card included. you need your own.
PM me for questions, etc.

$200
Give me you PayPal address or how you'd like me to pay you.

whats the asking price
i wanna know did u add any apps to the phone if so what r they cause i also have the tilt but converted for t mobile and i love it and if i but how soon can i get it am mario my number is 1 267 516 4422

djhitcity, i would edit my post and remove my phone number if i were you

no apps added. i messed around with a few ROMS and apps but flashed it to stock to sell. as for $200...search e-bay and see how much even a used Tilt is going for...sorry bro give me a FAIR offer...

xhellionx said:
no apps added. i messed around with a few ROMS and apps but flashed it to stock to sell. as for $200...search e-bay and see how much even a used Tilt is going for...sorry bro give me a FAIR offer...
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I can buy the Tilt, brand new, with no contract for $285 via my business account. I thought my offer to you was fair, sorry.

The Tilt has no front camera...
Kaisers seem to be less troublesome for flashing etc from what I've seen also...

grizzley said:
I can buy the Tilt, brand new, with no contract for $285 via my business account. I thought my offer to you was fair, sorry.
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no worries dude. i understand. i can sell this phone for damn near $400 on e-bay though, just trying to get a fair price on here from someone i know knows the potential of these. here are a few e-bay examples:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Very-slightly-u...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/at-t-TILT-with-...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/AT-T-Tilt-HTC-8...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/USED-CELL-PHONE...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

xhellionx said:
no worries dude. i understand. i can sell this phone for damn near $400 on e-bay though, just trying to get a fair price on here from someone i know knows the potential of these. here are a few e-bay examples:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Very-slightly-u...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/at-t-TILT-with-...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/AT-T-Tilt-HTC-8...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/USED-CELL-PHONE...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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LOL @ the guy selling a broken LCD Tilt for the price that new and slightly used devices are going for.

jon_k said:
LOL @ the guy selling a broken LCD Tilt for the price that new and slightly used devices are going for.
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not sure why it's "lol." proves the value of these badboys. knowing you can sell yours for $200+ even when it is BROKEN is pretty reassuring.

I'm pretty sure that jon_k is LOL'ing at the seller of the broken Tilt, not at you.
$400 seems like a pretty fair price for a almost new Kaiser/TyTN2.

ouminan said:
I'm pretty sure that jon_k is LOL'ing at the seller of the broken Tilt, not at you.
$400 seems like a pretty fair price for a almost new Kaiser/TyTN2.
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i agree about the price...and i'm not even expecting the full $400. and i wasn't lol'ing at jon_k either, sorry for the confusion.

Want to sell my Pro but

I am going to just dump it and loose allot of money. I want to make this a easy transaction if anyone is interested.
Were would I post this on the board?
I will meet locally or ship in the US only.
I would like to sell it to one of the ROM guys so they can keep going on developing new ROM etc. I will give it away for $720 that includes fedex 3 days shipping in the US. I payed 1100 for it plus shipping.
It does have a very very small scratch on the bottom corner of the phone. I haven t even used the charger since I had a older HTC charger. The USB is unused and the headphones are unused.
Let me know by PM and I will give you my email address.

if you want to see if the devs want it for that, i would make a short post in the elite rom thread (only because i think that not all of the devs have a device at the moment) otherwise, im not sure if there is a spot for selling devices on here, not one that i could find, so if none of the devs get back to you, throw it on ebay i guess. if i hadn't made the plunge for mine i would buy yours for sure.

y2whisper said:
if you want to see if the devs want it for that, i would make a short post in the elite rom thread (only because i think that not all of the devs have a device at the moment) otherwise, im not sure if there is a spot for selling devices on here, not one that i could find, so if none of the devs get back to you, throw it on ebay i guess. if i hadn't made the plunge for mine i would buy yours for sure.
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Thanks I will do that

Ouch... Losing $400 for having a phone for a month or 2? That's rough. Good luck with the sale.

Why
Do you want to share why??

Dev phones available!

Google announced that they're making unlocked developer phones available. No sim lock, unlocked bootloader and all that.
http://code.google.com/android/dev-devices.html
$399 + $25 dev registration fee, with free shipping.
Oh, and check out the back cover
http://android.brightstarcorp.com/images/placeholders/dev3.jpg

Awesome! I am assuming Google will be doing separate OTA updates for the dev phones. That will be nice to have as well for existing rooted phones.

About time!
You can use any SIM in the device and can flash custom Android builds that will work with the unlocked bootloader. Unlike the bootloader on retail devices, the bootloader on the Android Dev Phone 1 does not enforce signed system images.
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Are they referring to the htc bootloader?

Is it possible to extract the data from these phones and use them on non-dev phones? Or am I asking a stupid question?

Yes. Per swetland on freenode/#android, it has the htc engineering bootloader.

unknown.soul said:
Is it possible to extract the data from these phones and use them on non-dev phones? Or am I asking a stupid question?
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Possibly.. we'll have to wait and see

I’d be really interested in where they’ll ship the handsets from…
The price is good, but if they ship it from the US, I’d have to pay VAT (19%), import taxes and shipping which would result in the package being 100$+ more expensive :-/
If they'd be able to ship them from inside the EU on the other hand, I'd immediately order one

Can I order one. I'm from Vietnam.
Who have G1 dev version please write a review, I want to know about battery life

at last what i was Emailing on Daily Basis.
Infact i was insisting them to release Developer Edition of Firmware
But they have come with Device

this is sweet...im gonna try to sell my current g1 and buy the dev one.

I buy the cover from a struggling dev
I'd give 25$ +shipping for that back cover with that funky bullsh1t on the back, looks 'leet
and donate sumthin to a dev, id also offer mine to replace...
its kinda just a joke but if anybody wants to take me up on it when they get one of these badboys, with the recent nand dump, we can now just dump the bootloader on the make nicenice with the devs phone and repalce our stock boot with it and whammo, RUN ANYTHING? and flash it to the handset, debian, ubuntu mobile, WM, even custom android could I say "distrubutions?
wholly open source tmobile , BatMan... If Im wrong please let me know but this seems like goog or andy or whomever is sympathetic to the plight of the enslaved tmobile G1s
bhang

This is in google's best interest. They want android to be a success, and in order to do that, atleast the most effective way to do that, is to give devolpers the most open of a door as possible to the system.
The big stick-in-the-mud as far as root goes has always been t-mobile. telcoms don't want people to have full control of their device.
The only thing surprising about this to me is that they didn't introduce the g1 with this edition as well.
=]

Well I can safely say, t-mobile employees aren't trained well enough, and they basically said that there is no way to updrade or downgrade firmware's, and rc 30 was "perfect", litterally.

well....not all t-mobile employees...
im a t-mobile employee, and from my experiences since september 23, have been that most of the people around me know their way around the device from a retail consumer standpoint. you cant assume that general customer care or even tier 1 tech support knows as much as the people that read/post here.
just looking out for my collegues....

card13 said:
Well I can safely say, t-mobile employees aren't trained well enough, and they basically said that there is no way to updrade or downgrade firmware's, and rc 30 was "perfect", litterally.
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well, I don't fully agree. There are a number of employees that should be deemed legally retarded, but just because they are a t-mobile employee doesnt mean they should know how to work the phone. From a t-mobile standpoint, the rc-30 is the perfect (for now) as its a non-root that has no known security holes, htc I doubt would care one way or the other, and google would probably prefer completely open hardware (see the dev phones).
What would you want to know from a t-mobile employee about this phone that they can't answer?
You have to remeber, they don't design the phone, they don't hack the phone, they just sell airtime. So they have no reason to know alot of things that we find out, since they don't attempt to.

That is true I work in cs for VZW, I should probably have rephrased that the tier 2 tech ppl, especially the g1 support line have no clue how to work the g1. And the PDA/Smartphone tier 2 ppl say it's "perfect", and also have no clue how to work it, either. I called litterally everyone I could find a contact for to find a way to downgrade from RC30. HTC got mad and gave the # for cs at t-mobile. Google sent me to google.com/support. G1 suport sent me to HTC and PDA/Smartphone support, or told me they had no clue.

card13 said:
That is true I work in cs for VZW, I should probably have rephrased that the tier 2 tech ppl, especially the g1 support line have no clue how to work the g1. And the PDA/Smartphone tier 2 ppl say it's "perfect", and also have no clue how to work it, either. I called litterally everyone I could find a contact for to find a way to downgrade from RC30. HTC got mad and gave the # for cs at t-mobile. Google sent me to google.com/support. G1 suport sent me to HTC and PDA/Smartphone support, or told me they had no clue.
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So you have one small problem... Tell me something since you say you work cs at VZW... do you think anyone at your company would tell you how even if you could? Do you really think they would handle any support about how to upgrade or downgrade software on any of their smartphones? Last I checked VZW was the worst when it comes to smart phones by locking out GPS and other functions unless you pay, and only allowing their phones on the network.
So far when I have called up I have got nothing but good results. Even if the problem couldn't be completely fixed over the phone they have always compensated me (I got about 40 dollars off my next bill)
And yea their CS department can't do much on the tech side... but I have gotten to Tier 3 numerous times on other devices and always been satisfied.

neoobs said:
So you have one small problem... Tell me something since you say you work cs at VZW... do you think anyone at your company would tell you how even if you could? Do you really think they would handle any support about how to upgrade or downgrade software on any of their smartphones? Last I checked VZW was the worst when it comes to smart phones by locking out GPS and other functions unless you pay, and only allowing their phones on the network.
So far when I have called up I have got nothing but good results. Even if the problem couldn't be completely fixed over the phone they have always compensated me (I got about 40 dollars off my next bill)
And yea their CS department can't do much on the tech side... but I have gotten to Tier 3 numerous times on other devices and always been satisfied.
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I don't care, I tell ppl what they need to hear not what they want to hear, yes I tell them things that aren't official. And I tell them google is their friend. Since I'm flex pay, they dn't care about keeping me there, I've been on my own acct since the G1 came out, that's the whole reason I switched from the Iphone. That thing about the GPS is only true on regular phones, the PDA/Smartphones/Blackberry's are a whole diff story. I'm also quitting that job soon, due to me being tired of screwing ppl oer the phone.

Woo! I've ordered my dev phone. Now I need to get rid of my G1. Luckily I can still take it back to t-mob for a refund (tomorrow is the last day though). I thought I would offer it to you guys first though. It's unlocked and has modified RC30 of course. I'll let it go for $400, including free shipping. If no-one says they want it by tomorrow at noon, it's going back to t-mobile. I'll even sign it if you want
Update: taken back to the t-mobile store. got a full refund, no restocking fee or anything. So I'll only be out about $20-25 for the dev phone.. got $430 back for the G1 and $455 for the dev phone ($400 + $25 market fee + $30 tax)

does anybody know if the credit card address can be different from the shipping address?
I'd love to be able to use the reasonable "free" shipping to the US and have a friend bring it over on his next visit to germany

XDA Flint for sale

Hi guys. I'm selling my Flint...here it is:
link
Yeah, it's a bit cheeky, but when it's gone, it's gone...so hurry

If I saw this 3 weeks ago I would have gone for it surely
knowing HTC Athena 2 due out soon, I now prefers to wait till Athena 2 released.
best of luck! I did best offer you on that auction, but was declined.

Yeah too right it was declined. People offering me silly money. Think I'm stupid??? If people don't want to pay what these things are worth, they should either forget it and get a device that suits their budget, or wait a couple of years until it drops to the price you want to pay (judging by the offers, it'll be about 10 years!! ), instead of wasting my time and looking a little bit foolish...
Anyway it's still for sale if anybody's interested. Link updated and slightly reduced price.

Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
Can you still actually leave buyers negative feedback? I thought that had been stopped by ebay.

Ponder said:
Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
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O2 do not, and never have SIM locked their Windows Mobile devices. The Flint is pretty much the standard HTC offering, though the current ROM does not have the HTC Home front end.
O2 also tend to do warranty repairs based on the IMEI, so do not necessarily need the original owner to mediate things, as long as you are using an O2 SIM.
It seems amazing that prices seem to vary from around £320 to well over £500 on Ebay.

Thanks for clearing that up, if I were in the market it'd justify the cost for me.
Maybe if matmaneyre could point these things out in the item description it'd clear things up to the public in general and bring about a quicker sale
I still don't think it's possible to leave negative feedback to a buyer though, especially one with whom no transaction has actually occurred.

Yes- you're right. Ebay changed the rules at the end of last year, for better or worse, though as you say, it was never possible to leave FB for someone who didn't actually buy.
With Ebay, the content of the advert say's an awful lot about the product and the seller

I thought about buying that from you off of eBay.
Something doesn’t quite feel right about that auction.
You say it’s an upgrade, yet it’s not available as an upgrade!? Also you say it’s too complicated for you but it’s no more complicated than any other Windows mobile device.
Maybe I’m paranoid but...

To be honest, by 'too complicated for me' I really meant not quite right for me, as it has too many features I am not going to use, and I think I would be better off cashing in and getting something more suitable to my needs. Hope that clears it up a bit. I'd have put that in the description, but it seems to take so long to create a good listing just the way you want it, minor things that the everyday person browsing for such a device just get overlooked when you preview your listing before submitting it. Once you get to a stage where you think it sounds and looks good enough, you kinda just go with it.
As you say, it's no more complicated than any other WM device. It is available as an upgrade through O2, but strictly only to business customers. They are extremely hard to get hold of otherwise. I hounded them literally everyday for a month because I returned my faulty Serra (see my signature) and they couldn't offer me an equal or better replacement. All their Serras were out of stock - really messed me about for 4 weeks. In the end they backed down as there was nothing else they could offer me.
They don't know their ear from their elbow.
And I didn't realise you couldn't leave negative feedback to a buyer as luckily I've never been in a situation where I'd want to, although that's really only on there to make people think seriously before submitting an offer. I don't want to be relisting all the time for the sake of someone not reading the buyer restrictions or trying to scam me.
Hope that explains a few things...if you're still wary,. check my feedback. I've sold all my WM devices of the last 5 years on ebay (see sig again!) And see my postcount and view my posts too. I am a real, genuine human!!
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)

In general section is a thread called Buy & Sell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434069
Let´s use it for that porpose

matmaneyre said:
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)
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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.

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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.
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Thanks for that, means a lot!
I didn't realise there was a buy and sell section. Thanks for that. If a mod would like to move me, feel free.
Anyway, relisted (again), updated link (again) and reduced (again)!

SOLD now, thanks.

Help? Bought unlocked Samsung Note 9

Hi, sry if I posted my question in the wrong area but I just recieved my Samsung Note 9. Been without a phone for 2.5 wks. It was nothing... (ahem... bu****it!!!)
Im an AT&T customer (I dont pay for phone service) so I was hoping if I bought an unlocked phone I might be able to root my device even though Im an AT&T customer. For some reason soon as you say AT&T customer, its like you have some super Covid strain cause nobody will come near you. Lol
Anyways, I would just like to be able to root my device so I can run a few of my fav apps which require root/super user. Im scared to even turn my device on because Im afraid AT&T is gonna patch it soon as I do and I wont be able to root my phone. Can someone please just tell me how best to proceed. Sry, I have not searched the forum yet. Im just in a hurry to get my phone back on so i can feel whole again. Im headed over to the thread for my phone now and will update this thread soon as i find out what i need to do. In the meantime any help would be greatly appreciated. Big thanks to everyone at XDA for all the love & support you guys give to the community.
Thanks and have have a blessed day!
- TeeShark

Did you buy the international variant or the U.S. variant?

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Did you buy the international variant or the U.S. variant?
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Hey sorry for the late response. Im guessing i got the US variant since it was for a Verizon or AT&T customer. Unfortunately, its a refurb and was DOA. So im sending it back today. Which phone would you buy on a $300 budget? The screen was scratched up pretty baf also so im glad it was dead out of the box. Is this something I should expect when buying a refurb. I assumed since i was paying close to market price for a Samsung Note 9 that it would be in better shape with no scratches or very few. This one was scratched up pretty good all the way around the edge of the screen.
I was also considering buying a brand new Samsung A71. Most sites online have the Google Pixel 4a listed as the top phone on a $300 budget. I just feel like Google is intrusive enough as it is already without owning a phone made by them but I hold the XDA community in high regard when it comes to cell phones, specially android variants so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and be a deciding factor in my purchase.
Again i just would like to be able to gain root/super_user permissions so i can run some of my fav apps that require root access. If im able to install some custom roms as well that would be fabulous but not necessarily a requirement. If ive learned anything at XDA its that AT&T customers are usually screwed when it comes to rooting phones, at least in the early stages of recently released cell phones.
Thanks again for the assistance guys... and gals (and those that don't identify with either sex these days.) When i was growing up, you either had a hole or pole and that determined your sex. Lol! Sorry to get political on you guys but it seems everyone gets triggered so easily these days.

TeeShark said:
Hey sorry for the late response. Im guessing i got the US variant since it was for a Verizon or AT&T customer. Unfortunately, its a refurb and was DOA. So im sending it back today. Which phone would you buy on a $300 budget? The screen was scratched up pretty baf also so im glad it was dead out of the box. Is this something I should expect when buying a refurb. I assumed since i was paying close to market price for a Samsung Note 9 that it would be in better shape with no scratches or very few. This one was scratched up pretty good all the way around the edge of the screen.
I was also considering buying a brand new Samsung A71. Most sites online have the Google Pixel 4a listed as the top phone on a $300 budget. I just feel like Google is intrusive enough as it is already without owning a phone made by them but I hold the XDA community in high regard when it comes to cell phones, specially android variants so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and be a deciding factor in my purchase.
Again i just would like to be able to gain root/super_user permissions so i can run some of my fav apps that require root access. If im able to install some custom roms as well that would be fabulous but not necessarily a requirement. If ive learned anything at XDA its that AT&T customers are usually screwed when it comes to rooting phones, at least in the early stages of recently released cell phones.
Thanks again for the assistance guys... and gals (and those that don't identify with either sex these days.) When i was growing up, you either had a hole or pole and that determined your sex. Lol! Sorry to get political on you guys but it seems everyone gets triggered so easily these days.
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Lol that last is the best sentence I've ever read in my life xDDD
But anyway, there are a few things I should point out.
-> You should only buy Samsung phones (even budget ones) if you like OneUI. If you want a stock aosp ROM, then stay away from Samsung phones since they get the least amount of attention and get a Xiaomi instead. They're phones that have communities booming and offer good quality for the price
-> If you don't want AOSP and really enjoy OneUI, then avoid getting a Samsung phone that is meant for the U.S. market and get an international variant. All U.S. variant Samsung phones have their bootloader hard locked and you need to buy a token (extra money) to even be able to unlock the bootloader and root it. Keep in mind that SOME international variants have the Exynos chip so just FYI. Though some mid-rangers offer Snapdragon across the board (U.S. or International) but yeah just avoid U.S. variant phones if you want root.
-> Lastly, avoid the Galaxy A71, go for the A52 instead. The A52 is about the same price as the A71 (in some places you'll probably even find the A52 cheaper) and the A52 has higher refresh rate, water resistance, dual speakers, optical image stabilization and an SoC that is on par with the A71.

You can request through AT&T's tech support that they turn off OTAs on their end.
Yes, yes they can that.
Or use Package Disabler to kill it.
It's probably the best solution.