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I used HTC's official unlock and my phone is unlocked, but has S-On. Is there a benefit to S-Off now that mine is unlocked? What is the difference between how the unlocks are? Sorry if i'm not making much sense, I'm new to this place and Android in general... I just got my sensation last week.
Welcome to Sensation
Don't worry, everyone's a noob at some point, I'm pretty much still a noob myself but as far as I understand it:
To this point you have unlocked your bootloader which simply allows the phone to boot with third-party software installed. In your phone there is a form of security check and the level of security is determined by whether you are S-ON or S-OFF. It's a flag at the radio level of your phone that checks images before they are allowed to be written to the system memory. So when you gain S-OFF, you gain unrestricted access to the NAND flash memory on your device, also known as root. With S-ON you can get temporary root but it's not guaranteed, with S-OFF you can get permanent root no matter what you flash.
Essentially gaining S-OFF permits superuser access to the phone, giving you control over all aspects of software and hardware.
If you like your phone the way it comes to you, all filled up with bloatware and stuck using only the latest version of Android that your carrier releases OTA, with a boring/crappy splash screen and boot animation (and so on and so forth ) then you have no real reason to get S-OFF.
If however you have seen some of the shiny ROMs put together by the devs here at XDA, or have a sweet custom splash screen you'd love to see every time you boot up the phone, or just like the idea of having complete control over YOUR phone and flashing what-the-hell-ever ROM/firmware/radio/other stuff you damn well please, then you should definitely consider rooting.
The disclaimer to all this is that if you aren't careful and don't thoroughly research what you're doing BEFORE you do it, you could brick your phone and give yourself some serious grief. The fact you're even asking this now is a point in your favour, there are far too many 'help me' posts on here from people who did something without bothering to try and understand it first. Knowledge is power and there's buckets of knowledge on this forum and others.
I'd suggest reading here and here at the very least.
Hope that helps
s-off means you may do anything with your phone,
you will lose warrenty at s-off gain it at s-on
as the other guy said if u want a nice toutch to your rom s-off it and install, if u want it still legal dont
Thanks for the info. I've been considering using an ICS OTA file on my HTC Sensation 4G, but the guides i've seen only mention S-OFF and nothing about the unlocked S-ON. I just can't wait for the official release!
On the other hand though, I also want to remove bloatware from this phone and found a script for such... but i can't seem to get any temp root method working. I'm not ready to jump off the deep end yet, but i'm tired of the unnecessary stuff.
I also couldn't wait for the official ICS release so I s-off, rooted, super CID, and flashed an ICS firmware and went to android revolution. Honestly, it's one of the best decisions Ive ever made. If you think your stock phone is running good right now, you'll be amazed when you flash it, it will run absolutely faster I tell you.
Though there are alot of risks doing all of that, it might brick your phone completely. So be very careful, read and understand everything if you're going to do all of those stuff.
Sent from revolutionized HTC Sensation ICS
HTC sensation stuck at boot
Hey Guys Noob here,
I need help big time. I gone and mess with something I shouldn't have. I'm a first time android/touch screen user so bear with me.
I was trying to S-off my phone (alrady rooted- after several tries) but I downloaded the juopunutbear zip file on my phone. I mistakenly loaded it via the CWM recovery and now the screen is stuck on that juopunutbear image.
I have tried to flash my rom because I thought it was just a boot loop, but nothing happened. I NEED some advice please don't tell me I bricked it. :crying:
man+droid said:
Hey Guys Noob here,
I need help big time. I gone and mess with something I shouldn't have. I'm a first time android/touch screen user so bear with me.
I was trying to S-off my phone (alrady rooted- after several tries) but I downloaded the juopunutbear zip file on my phone. I mistakenly loaded it via the CWM recovery and now the screen is stuck on that juopunutbear image.
I have tried to flash my rom because I thought it was just a boot loop, but nothing happened. I NEED some advice please don't tell me I bricked it. :crying:
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if you can boot into bootloader then you are not bricked
secondly what do you mean by juopunutbear.zip and from where?
edit:you said that you are already rooted
which means that you have unlocked bootloader from htcdev site am i right?
Yes it was already unlock from HTC dev, but I was trying to get S- off using the wire trick method. In reading the Jounutbear guide thread it directed u to a link which has the zip file which I should have run on my pc but I had mistakenly installed it from my sd card and now it isn't going furthuer than that screen. I now can't using the Jbear exe bcuz it not recogining it.
I don't really want to keep adding my nonsense to the thread how can I PM someone for help.
man+droid said:
Yes it was already unlock from HTC dev, but I was trying to get S- off using the wire trick method. In reading the Jounutbear guide thread it directed u to a link which has the zip file which I should have run on my pc but I had mistakenly installed it from my sd card and now it isn't going furthuer than that screen. I now can't using the Jbear exe bcuz it not recogining it.
I don't really want to keep adding my nonsense to the thread how can I PM someone for help.
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do this
install 4ext recovery
enable smartflash from it
flash the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
I did all that but the phone keeps booting up with the Juoputnutbear image that point to the phone. It looks similar to when I was just rooting the phone but it just no picking up nothing but that.
man+droid said:
I did all that but the phone keeps booting up with the Juoputnutbear image that point to the phone. It looks similar to when I was just rooting the phone but it just no picking up nothing but that.
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that's weird
did you perform a full wipe(from recovery) before flashing the rom?
also as long as you are on S-ON use 4ext recovery to flash the rom
and before flashing the rom enable smartflash from 4ext
if you have done all the above then use a ruu.exe to return to stock condition
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
Well that thread seems to be a mouth full remember I'm a noob. But I will try and read that again to get what it really says. It seems though that it was a complex instruction how to get back to the stock rom? Isn't there a file for that I can download. I get to doing that RUU thing to see if it works tho
man+droid said:
Well that thread seems to be a mouth full remember I'm a noob. But I will try and read that again to get what it really says. It seems though that it was a complex instruction how to get back to the stock rom? Isn't there a file for that I can download. I get to doing that RUU thing to see if it works tho
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i saw your post in the other thread
you managed to install 4ext
now try to flash a custom rom
before flashing the rom enable smartflash from 4ext
Hey guys good news
I finally got the phone to power on. I saw this thread that highlead my pro http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284273 but I was really got the details from another forum. I don't know if I'm allowed to post it so I won't, but I'll sum it up.
All I need to do was flash the boot image on my current rom (get this from the zip file) and also flash the recovery image from a backup I had and presto.
But I'll go and follow you guys instruction about enabling the 4ext smart flash from now on. What I want to know though is for some custom roms (eg cyanogenmod 10.1) do I needs to be S-off to install it?
If so I'm still gonna try and S-off this here thingy. Givethanks y'all
man+droid said:
Hey guys good news
I finally got the phone to power on. I saw this thread that highlead my pro http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284273 but I was really got the details from another forum. I don't know if I'm allowed to post it so I won't, but I'll sum it up.
All I need to do was flash the boot image on my current rom (get this from the zip file) and also flash the recovery image from a backup I had and presto.
But I'll go and follow you guys instruction about enabling the 4ext smart flash from now on. What I want to know though is for some custom roms (eg cyanogenmod 10.1) do I needs to be S-off to install it?
If so I'm still gonna try and S-off this here thingy. Givethanks y'all
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any ICS/JB rom you can install via enabling smartflash in 4EXT before flashing the ROM
ganeshp said:
any ICS/JB rom you can install via enabling smartflash in 4EXT before flashing the ROM
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Hey thanx for the heads up. So I'm finally s-off using the J-bear method but where unlocked use to be I'm now seeing the juopunutbear there so I got back into android but it was the old CWM that was on it how do I get back the 4ext and would that be a prob if that J name remains there tho?
man+droid said:
Hey thanx for the heads up. So I'm finally s-off using the J-bear method but where unlocked use to be I'm now seeing the juopunutbear there so I got back into android but it was the old CWM that was on it how do I get back the 4ext and would that be a prob if that J name remains there tho?
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no you are fine now
there is no problem with juopunutbear because now you have patched hboot which is unlocked
you are fine also with cwm recovery
but if you still want 4ext do only step 2 from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
man+droid said:
I did all that but the phone keeps booting up with the Juoputnutbear image that point to the phone. It looks similar to when I was just rooting the phone but it just no picking up nothing but that.
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might be a bad dl. Download it again and reflash or try a different rom.
Hi all. I am new to android and need some help. i both sensation before few days and i am trying to learn as much as i can for the time i have i was iphone user for long time and know everything about it but now want to try to learn things about android. i wanted to add some custom rom to my sensation but i just found out that i have hboot 1.27.0000 and S-ON. i have android 4.0.3 installed on my phone.
i was reading lot about how to take S-OFF and to root mu phone but i cant get all
as far i found out i cant do S-off because revolutionary don't support 1.27 boot. am i right about this?
also i read that i can do some htcdev S-off but that i will lose warranty. is this right?
today i found some other method with some wire but i don't know is that really good way to do this..
i need this so i can add custom rom like ARHD or something like that. is there way to do this on my phone or i need to wait for new version of revolutionary?
thx for all your help i rly want to learn as much i can without opening new threads but there is so much things about andorid and i am just noob for it
if you have time and patient to help me i would really appreciate it.
As of now you can't soff yet there working on it one came out today but don't know much on it you can put only a few Roma on as of right now you have to wait
Sent from my Sensation 4G using xda premium
lazar89nis said:
Hi all. I am new to android and need some help. i both sensation before few days and i am trying to learn as much as i can for the time i have i was iphone user for long time and know everything about it but now want to try to learn things about android. i wanted to add some custom rom to my sensation but i just found out that i have hboot 1.27.0000 and S-ON. i have android 4.0.3 installed on my phone.
i was reading lot about how to take S-OFF and to root mu phone but i cant get all
as far i found out i cant do S-off because revolutionary don't support 1.27 boot. am i right about this?
also i read that i can do some htcdev S-off but that i will lose warranty. is this right?
today i found some other method with some wire but i don't know is that really good way to do this..
i need this so i can add custom rom like ARHD or something like that. is there way to do this on my phone or i need to wait for new version of revolutionary?
thx for all your help i rly want to learn as much i can without opening new threads but there is so much things about andorid and i am just noob for it
if you have time and patient to help me i would really appreciate it.
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Hmm you got 1.27 HBOOT and S-OFF...
so yeah you can't soff now...the other thread you've seen might be "unbricking sensation thread" that's not advisable to do until you know what you are doing.
So there is still one way for you to install custom ...i.e. HTC dev unlocked bootloader..this will give you an unlocked bootloader which is enough to get a custom Rom running on your device...but remember using HTC dev unlocked bootloader may void your warranty..and there's no way you can argue with them if in some case you require warranty as they will have phone details logged once you do unlock from HTC dev....so try it at your own risk. Also HTC dev unlock doesn't give "S-OFF" but only unlocks bootloader but still you can flash custom roms if you got this so called unlocked bootloader.
Once you got the unlocked bootloader...you can flash a recovery..preferrebly 4EXT http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377759
Get the recovery updater apk on your sd card ...and install the apk....and then open it up and flash the latest 4EXT recovery which has smart flash on.
Remember to say "yes" when you are asked whether you are S-ON as this will enable smart flash mode.
Once you got recovery installed you can download the Rom (I guess it is ARHD as you've mentioned it) and flash it through recovery..remember to do a nandroid backup before you flash this new Rom...just to be safe in case something screwed up happens
sent from my blazing fast pyramid through sonic waves
thx m8 for explaining me all this
i have 18 mounts warranty so i dont want to lose that. i will wait for revolutionary to add support for this hboot 1.27.0000...
can i use
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24370319#post24370319
and then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611981&page=18
to unlock root and S-off my sensation with hboot 1.27?
lazar89nis said:
can i use
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24370319#post24370319
and then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611981&page=18
to unlock root and S-off my sensation with hboot 1.27?
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Yeah try the first link to get unloacked bootloader...afaik no one tried this on sensation...but try this as he is saying it won't brick your device...he said it is a hit or miss so try it
And please let me know if you are successful in getting unlocked
Hey guys, I'd like to root and S-OFF my HTC desire s. Which is the best way? The only thing I've done to my phone since I own it is install the official ruu running ICS.
bubi90 said:
Hey guys, I'd like to root and S-OFF my HTC desire s. Which is the best way? The only thing I've done to my phone since I own it is install the official ruu running ICS.
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Do yourself a favour and read the stickies in the Dev forum, then search the DS forums as this question has been asked and answered countless times already. You need to know and understand what you are doing and why or you risk getting yourself into a situation you will struggle to get out of.
I'm not an absolute beginner. I've already rooted and S-OFF my previous phone, the HTC Desire. I know what I am going to do.
I just wanted to know if the procedure to root this ics ruu is the same as before.
Thanks
If you know what you're going to do - then do it.
If you don't - read the stickies.
This thread is a waste of time, yours and others'.
You cannot S-OFF the default ICS RUU hboot - for that, you will need to downgrade to an older hboot (0.98.x) by flashing an older RUU for your phone (there are threads around here that will let you know how to do that) and then S-OFF.
However, you do not need to S-OFF to root the ICS rom - you only need to unlock the bootloader through htcdev.com. Keep in mind that this voids the warranty. After you unlock the blootloader, you can flash a custom recovery via fastboot commands (search the forum) and then flash the SU (or SuperSU) binary and app in recovery. That's exactly what I had done as soon as the ICS RUU came out. This is hardly a detailed guide, but it's a starting point, good luck.
Hi XDA
I have posted a new thread after reading various guides and threads to S-off the sensation.
My problem is that i dont understand some parts in some guides so i cant use that guide.
1 st problem
Unlock bootloader : I have a Htc sensation Orange UK but it isnt listed on the HTC dev website so what do i do ?
2nd problem : I would prefer not to unlock my bootloader via HTC dev because i dont want to void my warranty.
3rd problem : I am running windows 7 32 bit and control bear support has been stopped for it .
4th problem : I dont have any wires to use for control bear so i want to use a paper clip but i dont know if this is correct so can someone verify please ? : (Image attached to this post)
5th problem : I dont know if the method i am understanding for S - off is correct
What i think i need to do ,
Htc dev :
Unlock using htc dev
root using temp toot .bat
run control bear
do wire trick
install h boot
Install recovery
Ganeshp ver
Run temp root
run control bear
do wire trick
install H boot.
Install recovery
6th problem :
I believe you can flash roms with only unlocked bootloader but there is only 1 guide for it and its not very clear.
7th problem : Im afraid about bricking my device
Thanks for helping guys !
Hi, all the questions you have can pretty much be answered with this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26280760
S-off by ganesh's guide does not require an unlocked bootloader.
Concerning the wire trick... I used one piece of paperclip so I can verify that it works (I never insulated the paperclip with anything either, so it was just a naked paperclip)
By the way, you never mentioned your bootloader details, but if you have 1.2x bootloader you can use the guide that ganesh wrote about, but if you have an hboot that is a lower version, then you have to use revolutionary's s-off guide.
You can flash ROMs and a custom recovery both s-on and s-off, but if you don't want to unlock your bootloader like you said, then I would try to s-off your device.
Since you are running windows, you probably need the windows version of controlbear.exe. pm me and ask about it, otherwise, ask someone else who has the file.
Good luck! And I hope I answered the questions
I wouldn't worry that much about bricking your device. Just flash the right ROMs and you'll be fine. If you follow all the instructions step by step, then there's nothing that can go wrong.
After you finish tinkering with your phone, I would flash albino's ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37121632
It's silky smooth, has basically no major bugs, and I think the battery is better compared to other ROMs.
Sent from my HTC Sensation
Be careful and do more research on unlocking the bootloader via HTC Dev.
It is not the complete unlocking sollution that HTC leads you to believe it is. It unlocks the bootloader in a very limited fashion, and prevents some full s-off methods from working at all without starting completely over and flashing an RUU (which wipes everything and restores the phone to the way it left the factory)
Meanwhile if you run into warrenty issues later, having used the HTC Dev website tells HTC that you messed with the phone and they could actually deny warrenty service based on that. But if you use other means to unlcoked the bootloader HTC wouldn't know anything about it, so if you flashed an RUU later to return it to bone stock it would be an S-On phone with a locked bootloader again. Warrenty shouldn't be affected.
Also keep in mind that you've got a 2 year old device. The warrenty probably isn't going to last much longer on it anway.
Heloooo said:
Hi XDA
I have posted a new thread after reading various guides and threads to S-off the sensation.
My problem is that i dont understand some parts in some guides so i cant use that guide.
1 st problem
Unlock bootloader : I have a Htc sensation Orange UK but it isnt listed on the HTC dev website so what do i do ?
2nd problem : I would prefer not to unlock my bootloader via HTC dev because i dont want to void my warranty.
3rd problem : I am running windows 7 32 bit and control bear support has been stopped for it .
4th problem : I dont have any wires to use for control bear so i want to use a paper clip but i dont know if this is correct so can someone verify please ? : (Image attached to this post)
5th problem : I dont know if the method i am understanding for S - off is correct
What i think i need to do ,
Htc dev :
Unlock using htc dev
root using temp toot .bat
run control bear
do wire trick
install h boot
Install recovery
Ganeshp ver
Run temp root
run control bear
do wire trick
install H boot.
Install recovery
6th problem :
I believe you can flash roms with only unlocked bootloader but there is only 1 guide for it and its not very clear.
7th problem : Im afraid about bricking my device
Thanks for helping guys !
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1. I am on 3 mobile and my phone is also not listed on HTCDev. But I chose Sensation (EU) which worked fine. I believe its for all devices issued in Europe.
2. HTCDev voids the warranty as well as wipes off the data. But if you are gonna flash custom ROM or overclock then I guess you would eventually say good bye to your warranty anyway!
3. Burn a live CD for Ubuntu 12.04 and use it for Controlbear wire trick method. You dont need to install Ubuntu if you dont want to. There are guides here which give you controlbear tool for windows but word of advice... use the live CD and follow unlimited.io website only. They have made their tool safer over the time. Trust me its worth every hassle.
4. I am sure you would have a spare network ethernet cable lying somewhere at your place, use that one. Otherwise, people have reported the paper clip to be working but make sure you insulate it properly.
5. Here are the overall steps for everything.
- Unlock bootloader via HTCDev
- Use controlbear tool and wire trick to gain S-OFF (the tool downloaded from unlimited.io for Ubuntu will install custom hboot itself)
- Install custom recovery
- Obtain Root by flashing the zip package via this custom recovery
- Flash custom ROM for ICS (Try Androidrevolution HD... its good)
- You can download apps from the market to overclock your cpu.
(Ofcourse you can install custom ROM without being S-OFF.. use Asskicker's guide, its comprehensive and easy to understand)
6. Read through Ganesh's guide properly and you may be able to flash custom ROM without unlocking bootloader.
7. Everyone should be afraid of bricking their device, I was too. But if you do everything as it has been mentioned in the guide, then you should be confident that everything will be fine.
A few days ago I S-OFFed my device and was scared to my bones that I would brick my device but once I did it, I am feeling so good about it now. The guys here have helped me so much.
I presume you are on 1.2x hboot version.
aaaaannnnndddd read this post if you have time
the post explains everything regarding sensation you need to know
IM ****ting it!
ganeshp said:
aaaaannnnndddd read this post if you have time
the post explains everything regarding sensation you need to know
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Ok so i tried it , What i did :
I plugged in my phone and then i clicked root.bat
after temp root i clicked on control bear and it backed up my device etc
Then it told me to do wire trick so i tried my best and the phone went off
I then **** it and looked for flowolfs video on youtube , (the phone plugged in and control bear still running)
Control bear was telling me to check adb drivers and that it was waiting for my device .
I looked at flowolfs video and i unplugged my phone and then i plugged battery back in .
The phone works fine but i had to format sd card.
I went into bootloader but unfortunalty it shows s-on.
Heloooo said:
Ok so i tried it , What i did :
I plugged in my phone and then i clicked root.bat
after temp root i clicked on control bear and it backed up my device etc
Then it told me to do wire trick so i tried my best and the phone went off
I then **** it and looked for flowolfs video on youtube , (the phone plugged in and control bear still running)
Control bear was telling me to check adb drivers and that it was waiting for my device .
I looked at flowolfs video and i unplugged my phone and then i plugged battery back in .
The phone works fine but i had to format sd card.
I went into bootloader but unfortunalty it shows s-on.
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well you havent even done the wire-trick
the controlbear is throwing driver errors means problem in connection ..check troubleshoot #1 in my soff guide
Troubleshooting
ganeshp said:
well you havent even done the wire-trick
the controlbear is throwing driver errors means problem in connection ..check troubleshoot #1 in my soff guide
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Well control bear did say loading sixpacks to device but when it said do wire trick now the jupunutbear screen wasnt on ?
I dont have htc sync on laptop but i did have default htc sync on my phone as connection as i thought you needed it like this for temp root but after temp root UI isnt usable?
Heloooo said:
Well control bear did say loading sixpacks to device but when it said do wire trick now the jupunutbear screen wasnt on ?
I dont have htc sync on laptop but i did have default htc sync on my phone as connection as i thought you needed it like this for temp root but after temp root UI isnt usable?
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put it in charging mode and try again
Rooting + s off
rzr86 said:
put it in charging mode and try again
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I will try again but i hope i dont Brick it.
Thanks guys!
Thanks alot guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have now attained S - off on my 4th try at wire trick!
I thank , Ganesh for helping me out alot , and i also thank auggie 2k as i used his s-off troubleshoots and the gif image helped ! i also thank AndroidSupporter318 for all the help on the thread and my thanks also go out to Skip jacks for all the help on the thread!
I now need help again , my bootloader is locked but i have s - off does it matter? (i didnt htc dev unlock )
Also what are my next steps ?
Heloooo said:
Thanks alot guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have now attained S - off on my 4th try at wire trick!
I thank , Ganesh for helping me out alot , and i also thank auggie 2k as i used his s-off troubleshoots and the gif image helped ! i also thank AndroidSupporter318 for all the help on the thread and my thanks also go out to Skip jacks for all the help on the thread!
I now need help again , my bootloader is locked but i have s - off does it matter? (i didnt htc dev unlock )
Also what are my next steps ?
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flash 3.33 universal from firmware's thread in development section
it will give you also patched hboot which is unlocked
follow the instructions carefully
and before flashing check md5 sums(important)
don't do htcdev unlock.it is unecessary
How?
rzr86 said:
flash 3.33 universal from firmware's thread in development section
it will give you also patched hboot which is unlocked
follow the instructions carefully
and before flashing check md5 sums(important)
don't do htcdev unlock.it is unecessary
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How do i flash it ? I dont have recovery installed .
1 more thing i cant find it
Here is 4ext recovery. I think the directions are in the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377759
Sent from my HTC Sensation
Heloooo said:
How do i flash it ? I dont have recovery installed .
1 more thing i cant find it
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Slow down a second, buddy. You're 1 step ahead of yourself. Though I respect your excitment fro this process!
You don't flash firmware in recovery. You flash firmware in bootloader.
Read this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767&highlight=firmware
In it you will find the how to flash firmware (it's REALLY easy. Just make sure to follow the directions.) And you will be able to download the firmware files.
Short version is that you download the firmware file which will be caleld PM58IMG.zip, put it on your SD Card, and reboot into bootloader. Bootlaoder will install the new firmware for you. Don't watch it. Just walk away for 5 minutes, or you are liable to freak out when the screen goes blank during the process. More than one person has gotten scared when that happened and pulled the battey to stop it...which WILL brick the phone. So let it do it's thing in peace. It takes 2 mintues.
When it reboots you will have a shiny new firmware with a fancy updated bootloader as well.
And someone else please answer this...do Kohr-Ah's firmware packages have 4EXT recovery already included? Or perhaps CWM? So that they flash with the firmware? It's been too long sinc eI used one I can't remember.
@Skipjacks
I don't think kohr-ah's firmwares have a recovery installed. Just the radio, adsp.IMG, hboot patch and other stuff that I don't know about. I don't see a recovery.IMG in the zip file. Unless the recovery is rcdata.IMG...
Sent from my HTC Sensation
AndroidSupporter318 said:
@Skipjacks
I don't think kohr-ah's firmwares have a recovery installed. Just the radio, adsp.IMG, hboot patch and other stuff that I don't know about. I don't see a recovery.IMG in the zip file. Unless the recovery is rcdata.IMG...
Sent from my HTC Sensation
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No I don't think that's it either. It must have been the firmwares for my old MyTouch 4G that had recovery included. Like I said, it's been a while.
Just see the 4EXT recovery thread AndroidSupporter posted earlier. It has the recovery download links.
Ok that thread says things such a cid do what is that ? , it also says check md5 what is that ?
Thanks guys !
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Which version
I also dont understand which version is right for my phone , some one said 3.33 but which 3.33 there are two packs?
Heloooo said:
Ok that thread says things such a cid do what is that ? , it also says check md5 what is that ?
Thanks guys !
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The CID is how HTC locks down the phone so it can only get the updates that they want your phone to get. Each region and carrier has different CIDs, so you can't use a Europe firmware or official ROM on an America phone. Each firmware file contains a list of the CIDs it will install on. If your CID isn't on the list it won't install. But there is a super CID as well that is like a master key. With the superCID on your phone all firmware packages will install.
Read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
See Step 4 to get Super CID. It's insanely simple as long as you have ADB installed.
Also the 3.33 firmware package may already include your CID. If it does you don't need to get Super CID. But it's easy, so why not?
An MD5 is a code that is generated that shows if 2 files match. If they match, the codes will be the same. If they don't, the files are different. With Firmware, ANY variation in the file can brick your phone. So you ALWAYS want to check to make sure the MD5 of the firmware file you downlaoded matches what it's supposed to be. That's why Kohr-Ah has the MD5 written under each download link.
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Heloooo said:
I also dont understand which version is right for my phone , some one said 3.33 but which 3.33 there are two packs?
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Say what now?
This post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21711303&postcount=2
First link at the top. It's the only 3.33 firmware there for download. (The one at the bottom is just the same file from a different download location)
Here is the same thing cut and pasted from that post. This is what you want.
Firmware 3.33 Universal:
DOWNLOAD:http://d-h.st/SuC
MD5: 07cc2a2ea4473e8fe8d6fe844c4020a1
Just put it on the root directory of the SD Card (don't put it in a folder) and boot into recovery. See if that works. If it doesn't then you have to Super CID. If it works, great. You're done. Flash recovery next.
hi everyone
i havebeen struggling with this for 2 years now. i have HTC sensation with hboot 1.18.xxxx that i bought in 2011. after the first year i have been keen to move to a newer rom. i have tried to look up inf in xda and elsewhere and got no where with this.
i have been worried about bricking so much that i didnt try to many weird procedures. i had even tried to go through with the android revolution installation procedure but failed right on. because revolutionary does not with with my device even though thr hboot is supported.
i badly need to move to a newer jelly bean based rom or later else my device is like a stone-age crap. i sincerely request some straight forward process / guidance of getting through this without weird, wire trick etc.
i really want to keep this device instead of buying a new device for no reason. but i dont know how to start and how to end. kindly help me out.
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hi everyone
i havebeen struggling with this for 2 years now. i have HTC sensation with hboot 1.18.xxxx that i bought in 2011. after the first year i have been keen to move to a newer rom. i have tried to look up inf in xda and elsewhere and got no where with this.
i have been worried about bricking so much that i didnt try to many weird procedures. i had even tried to go through with the android revolution installation procedure but failed right on. because revolutionary does not with with my device even though thr hboot is supported.
i badly need to move to a newer jelly bean based rom or later else my device is like a stone-age crap. i sincerely request some straight forward process / guidance of getting through this without weird, wire trick etc.
i really want to keep this device instead of buying a new device for no reason. but i dont know how to start and how to end. kindly help me out.
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1st
This is definately not the place to ask for "all inclusive help".
You should at least do some own basic researches or leave your phone as it is,
especially when you're worried about bricking your device.
There are so many excellent descriptions here, that could guide you to flash a custom rom.
2nd
If you are on hboot 1.18 you don't need to do the wire trick for s-off, just have a look at this.
If you searched a little bit, you'd find out yourself.
But even the wire trick is nothing "bad", I did it on 6 devices till now.
I'd like to encourage you to simply read/search a little bit more here in the forums before coming back and asking for help.
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1st
This is definately not the place to ask for "all inclusive help".
You should at least do some own basic researches or leave your phone as it is,
especially when you're worried about bricking your device.
There are so many excellent descriptions here, that could guide you to flash a custom rom.
2nd
If you are on hboot 1.18 you don't need to do the wire trick for s-off, just have a look at this.
If you searched a little bit, you'd find out yourself.
But even the wire trick is nothing "bad", I did it on 6 devices till now.
I'd like to encourage you to simply read/search a little bit more here in the forums before coming back and asking for help.
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thanks for the reply. as i mentioned revolutionary does NOT work for me. it says failed to get root. i have already tried those things about 8 times now and it didnt work for me. thats why i have posted here for help.
using htcdev i know i can try to unlock but it wont soff. so i dont know if that will help me or not.
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thanks for the reply. as i mentioned revolutionary does NOT work for me. it says failed to get root. i have already tried those things about 8 times now and it didnt work for me. thats why i have posted here for help.
using htcdev i know i can try to unlock but it wont soff. so i dont know if that will help me or not.
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187 to gain S-OFF. Don't worry about the htcdev part.
I did it on a complete stock sensation xe with hboot 1.27 or 1.29 (can't remember exactly).
Just use the temp root and rumrunner.
For any information read the thread first, before asking.
Also this thread should be moved, because it doesn't belong into the development section.
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187 to gain S-OFF. Don't worry about the htcdev part.
I did it on a complete stock sensation xe with hboot 1.27 or 1.29 (can't remember exactly).
Just use the temp root and rumrunner.
For any information read the thread first, before asking.
Also this thread should be moved, because it doesn't belong into the development section.
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thanks i will try to read up and post back if needed. Admin please move the thread to appropriate category.
Sajito said:
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187 to gain S-OFF. Don't worry about the htcdev part.
I did it on a complete stock sensation xe with hboot 1.27 or 1.29 (can't remember exactly).
Just use the temp root and rumrunner.
For any information read the thread first, before asking.
Also this thread should be moved, because it doesn't belong into the development section.
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i went through the thread again and again but still find it somewhat confusing. I cant seem to separate the temproot process start and end in there. can someone outline just the temproot procedure and the pre-requisite for it ?
Does temproot require controlbear files ? rumrunner site says it requires a htc dev unlocked device. is that a must ?
rajdeeprath said:
i went through the thread again and again but still find it somewhat confusing. I cant seem to separate the temproot process start and end in there. can someone outline just the temproot procedure and the pre-requisite for it ?
Does temproot require controlbear files ? rumrunner site says it requires a htc dev unlocked device. is that a must ?
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I'm not 100% sure about the exact steps anymore, but you don't need Controlbear, you just need the temp root.
When you have temp root, run rumrunner and follow the instructions.
I said read the thread, cause it might be possible that you get the message that it didn't work, while it actually did work.
You'll get everything needed in the thread. Otherwise just ask.
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I'm not 100% sure about the exact steps anymore, but you don't need Controlbear, you just need the temp root.
When you have temp root, run rumrunner and follow the instructions.
I said read the thread, cause it might be possible that you get the message that it didn't work, while it actually did work.
You'll get everything needed in the thread. Otherwise just ask.
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Seriously dont know if i am plain unlucky or topic are not very useful for a newbie.
1. Revolutionary failed
2. i did temp root + rumrunner - failed (image attached)
I wonder if my device was not made on this earth or something. Just simply soff. Also dont know if i cant install a JB rom on this without soff safely.
rajdeeprath said:
Seriously dont know if i am plain unlucky or topic are not very useful for a newbie.
1. Revolutionary failed
2. i did temp root + rumrunner - failed (image attached)
I wonder if my device was not made on this earth or something. Just simply soff. Also dont know if i cant install a JB rom on this without soff safely.
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What firmware and hboot do you have?
My rom is gingerbread stock version 1.52.xxxx and hboot is 1.18.0000
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My rom is gingerbread stock version 1.52.xxxx and hboot is 1.18.0000
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do you have sdk tools installed?(adb/fastboot)
also check if usb debugging mode is ticked
oh! hello again hope you are great.
yes i have adb setup properly. i do android dev so all development tools are setup properly. htc drivers are installed htc sync has been uninstalled.
i have tried on windows 8 and windows 7 pcs.
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oh! hello again hope you are great.
yes i have adb setup properly. i do android dev so all development tools are setup properly. htc drivers are installed htc sync has been uninstalled.
i have tried on windows 8 and windows 7 pcs.
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if revolutionary.io method doesn't work then try to update officially
see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
then try with juopunutbear or rumrunner method again
rajdeeprath said:
My rom is gingerbread stock version 1.52.xxxx and hboot is 1.18.0000
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One thing you could do is:
- get your phone updated to ICS (OTA over device settings) to get the latest firmware/hboot on it
- HTC Dev unlock your device (nothing complicated, you need to have fastboot running)
- Install/flash latest 4ext recovery (once more via fastboot) and enable smart flash option
Now in recovery with updated firmware/hboot make a nandroid backup and flash almost every rom you like.
In first place I'd not flash a CM12 rom.
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One thing you could do is:
- get your phone updated to ICS (OTA over device settings) to get the latest firmware/hboot on it
- HTC Dev unlock your device (nothing complicated, you need to have fastboot running)
- Install/flash latest 4ext recovery (once more via fastboot) and enable smart flash option
Now in recovery with updated firmware/hboot make a nandroid backup and flash almost every rom you like.
In first place I'd not flash a CM12 rom.
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firstly thank you very much for continuing to show hope. appreciate that. tell me thiss. i have a ota pending which i haven't gone for yet.
4.0 update sense 3.6 system upgrade 3.33.720.6
see attached image.
i never did that cause not everyone on htc blog had a good experience. Should i do that now ? will that help me move forward? will i be able to install android revolution or vipers or cyanogenmod after this? will i be able to soff?
i understand 3.33 is ics firmware ? right? what if i wish to go for jellybean ?
thanks
rajdeeprath said:
firstly thank you very much for continuing to show hope. appreciate that. tell me thiss. i have a ota pending which i haven't gone for yet.
4.0 update sense 3.6 system upgrade 3.33.720.6
see attached image.
i never did that cause not everyone on htc blog had a good experience. Should i do that now ? will that help me move forward? will i be able to install android revolution or vipers or cyanogenmod after this? will i be able to soff?
i understand 3.33 is ics firmware ? right? what if i wish to go for jellybean ?
thanks
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since you update to ics you will be able to flash every ics/jb/kk/lp custom rom you like
so should i go ahead with the official ics update?
It's up to you.
Might be you're just satisfied with your new ICS firmware.
If you want to go further, unlock and custom recovery is an quite easy step.
For custom rom s-off is not necessarily needed.
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so should i go ahead with the official ics update?
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If you do the update, try again with rumrunner after it has finished.
Thanks. I updated to ICS and did a full factory reset. The device seems to be quiet smooth compared to GB though. The next update i do will be using what you suggested. Without SOFF flashing a custom rom.
When i get there i will message back on this thread. Going to test drive this ICS now for a while.time.