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Caution:
When you are running ICS on you mobile do not downgrade directly to GB using ODIN, if you flash any GB ROM (Stock/Custom) using ODIN your mobile will be bricked.
Live example is myself i have bricked my mobile by do this.
TO avoid this first you restore previous backup using CWM and then flash what ever you want using ODIN.
Even Unbrick your Galaxy R. 2. Downgrade bootloader to v2.0 guide wont help you, I have followed it but no use I have successively flashed stock rom by using this method but still no luck ..
I've created this thread to help all our users who are running ICS, Sorry I've haven't see that one more thread is there for this if you think its duplicate please ask Justin to delete it..
Thanks! Have you managed to un-brick your machine?
Actually, flashing thru odin is Samsung things and it will increase the counter. So, almost every time, I will customize the ROM to flash thru normal CWM flash zip process. At least, I am just 'copying' files to /system/ and all operations are controlled by the updater-script
ardatdat said:
So, almost every time, I will customize the ROM to flash thru normal CWM flash zip process. At least, I am just 'copying' files to /system/ and all operations are controlled by the updater-script
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Yes Ardatdat. I do the same thing. For all the Stock ROMs which i flash via odin, i used to make CWM package. I used to do that so that always i dont have to depend on my PC. Not for the baseband, But atleast for the PDA and CSC part.
mj.vikram said:
When you are running ICS on you mobile do not downgrade directly to GB using ODIN, if you flash any GB ROM (Stock/Custom) using ODIN your mobile will be bricked.
TO avoid this first you restore previous backup using CWM and then flash what ever you want using ODIN.
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Thx for the info buddy. Like to know once thing. When u tried to downgrade to GB via odin, what was ur ICS system info. Is it rooted.? Deodexed? Rooted Kernel? Because I feel Kernel is the problem here. The Kernel that came with this ICS is not a safest one. Ardatdat can speak more about it.
Thanks mj...
I was goin to flash stock rom via odin on ics...if ics was to give more prob...
I had this doubt wat wld happend if u flash dis way....
If you want we can link either of one thread...
Btw, wat did ppl at ssc said ??
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vipul12389mehta said:
Thanks mj...
I was goin to flash stock rom via odin on ics...if ics was to give more prob...
I had this doubt wat wld happend if u flash dis way....
If you want we can link either of one thread...
Btw, wat did ppl at ssc said ??
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Just off-topic wondering, ppl in SSC will say: your machine is fixed and patched with the latest JB rom & kernel. Am I dreaming?
Hey Vikram,
I think we should sticky this thread.. what say??? Very critical piece of information.
ardatdat said:
Thanks! Have you managed to un-brick your machine?
Actually, flashing thru odin is Samsung things and it will increase the counter. So, almost every time, I will customize the ROM to flash thru normal CWM flash zip process. At least, I am just 'copying' files to /system/ and all operations are controlled by the updater-script
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NO i have tried each and every possible way but no luck, so i am taking it to Service center..
selva.simple said:
Thx for the info buddy. Like to know once thing. When u tried to downgrade to GB via odin, what was ur ICS system info. Is it rooted.? Deodexed? Rooted Kernel? Because I feel Kernel is the problem here. The Kernel that came with this ICS is not a safest one. Ardatdat can speak more about it.
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I was running Rooted ICS with stock kernel not deodexed.....
vipul12389mehta said:
Btw, wat did ppl at ssc said ??
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i haven't taken it to SSC i am may be tomorrow or day after tomorrow, i will take it and update you..
ardatdat said:
Just off-topic wondering, ppl in SSC will say: your machine is fixed and patched with the latest JB rom & kernel. Am I dreaming?
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Wow if it happen i would give you Big treat buddy ...
@Ardatdat can you please check the kernel for this issue it will help lot's of our user, Our bug is different form Note and SII...
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Hey Vikram,
I think we should sticky this thread.. what say??? Very critical piece of information.
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Good Idea because i think i am the first victim of this bug and i don't want it to happen to others users....
@Ardatdat can you please check the kernel for this issue it will help lot's of our user, Our bug is different form Note and SII...
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Yes, I would love to, but without the kernel source, I could not do much things. At least, I would not get the kernel src before Samsung provide the official ICS update.
Hoping an image from samsung for this rom and then for ardatdat kernel v 1.8.x from you... Hats off to you man. I am a fan of yours.:thumbup:
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this is very confusing. I shouldn't do factory reset. I shouldn't flash via odin. I shouldn't flash via cwm (says another thread). What should i do then to go back to GB?
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gitanshu said:
this is very confusing. I shouldn't do factory reset. I shouldn't flash via odin. I shouldn't flash via cwm (says another thread). What should i do then to go back to GB?
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I haven't faced any issues with CWM because i did Wipe Data, cache and Dalvik cache and Downgraded to GB using CWM nothing happened to me but when i flashed STOCK ROM via ODIN it totally messed up my mobile ..
gitanshu said:
this is very confusing. I shouldn't do factory reset. I shouldn't flash via odin. I shouldn't flash via cwm (says another thread). What should i do then to go back to GB?
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Yes...it sounds bit confusing..for all..
I think...either thread shld b dropped...
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Closed, as I see this is now included in the other thread. Thanks!
I just DG to GB from ICS.... i totally fogot to take the precaution of asking experts here, and now its gone.....
i just flashed stock 2.3.6. indian rom to SGR, and it successfully passed...
phone boots, and it say touch android to continue, from then on it just shows loads of Process.xxxxxx.xxxxxxx has stopped....around 15 to 20 FC's...
phone doesnt work at all...just stuck there,,,,,
i flashed ICS rom again, in that also same problem....same FC's...but atleast i can seee the homescreen....
now what to do ???
P.S- Ignore the spells, i am tensed, i shud give ma phone to SSC tomo, thats why i was flashing a stock ROM -_-
also searched a bit about this issue, didnt get an perfect answer..
Please help me fast
first of all did you formated u'r partitions (factory reset) after flashing STOCK rom 2.3.5 Indian rom ?
now to your problem
flash ardatdat ICS kernel 4.2 as you are using ICS and then try the whole process again.
make sure after flashing stock Rom you should wipe cache, dalvik cache and factory restore.
I did same when I was Downgraded my SGR from ICS to GB
chandrus1983 said:
I just DG to GB from ICS.... i totally fogot to take the precaution of asking experts here, and now its gone.....
i just flashed stock 2.3.6. indian rom to SGR, and it successfully passed...
phone boots, and it say touch android to continue, from then on it just shows loads of Process.xxxxxx.xxxxxxx has stopped....around 15 to 20 FC's...
phone doesnt work at all...just stuck there,,,,,
i flashed ICS rom again, in that also same problem....same FC's...but atleast i can seee the homescreen....
now what to do ???
P.S- Ignore the spells, i am tensed, i shud give ma phone to SSC tomo, thats why i was flashing a stock ROM -_-
also searched a bit about this issue, didnt get an perfect answer..
Please help me fast
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Try this one buddy. Everything gonna b alright.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31512881
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Do you have a nandroid backup?
Lol ive had the same issue gg
What ive done was starting in dl mode and flashed stock ics with odin. At this point it had very much fc and it was very slow.. But at this point u can do the configuration where u stuck. Then i flashed secure kernel and done a factory reset and tadaaaa it worked agin
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dack1612 said:
first of all did you formated u'r partitions (factory reset) after flashing STOCK rom 2.3.5 Indian rom ?
now to your problem
flash ardatdat ICS kernel 4.2 as you are using ICS and then try the whole process again.
make sure after flashing stock Rom you should wipe cache, dalvik cache and factory restore.
I did same when I was Downgraded my SGR from ICS to GB
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kataria.vikesh said:
Try this one buddy. Everything gonna b alright.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31512881
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:victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory:
emanoj.i9103 said:
Do you have a nandroid backup?
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No dude i didnt have a backup
anyways now, thanks, i just flashed again the stock GB Rom and then flashed CWM and then wiped data and cleared cache, now phone is alright, (Y)
chandrus1983 said:
:victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory:
No dude i didnt have a backup
anyways now, thanks, i just flashed again the stock GB Rom and then flashed CWM and then wiped data and cleared cache, now phone is alright, (Y)
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Thank GOD buddy you find the solution. BTW I know you was in Panic & the link I have provided was neglected by loosing patience (of course, If anyone mobile will do that, they will also do). I think this can be close now.:highfive:
Reporting to MOD.
kataria.vikesh said:
Thank GOD buddy you find the solution. BTW I know you was in Panic & the link I have provided was neglected by loosing patience (of course, If anyone mobile will do that, they will also do). I think this can be close now.:highfive:
Reporting to MOD.
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Yeah, but i searched, but not tooo much, as i had to give my phone today only....
well...yes this can be closed......
Please do a little search before creating new threads.It only took me 5 minutes :highfive:
Originally Posted by mj.vikram
Caution:
when you are running ICS on you mobile do not downgrade directly to GB using ODIN, if you flash any GB ROM ROM (Stock/Custom) using ODIN your mobile will be bricked.
Live example is myself i have bricked my mobile by do this.
TO avoid this first you restore previous backup using CWM and then flash what ever you want using ODIN.
even Unbrick your Galaxy R. 2. Downgrade bootloader to v2.0 guide wont help you, I have followed it but no use I have successively flashed stock rom by using this method but still no luck..
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I'd flashed GB(Indian) via ODIN being on ICS, there was no brick that time.
parmarket said:
I'd flashed GB(Indian) via ODIN being on ICS, there was no brick that time.
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well, i guess, my issue want a BRICK...it was just not booting up...
siberian tiger said:
Please do a little search before creating new threads.It only took me 5 minutes :highfive:
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was totally out of my mind.....
EDIT- Sorry for the TWO posts -_-
chandrus1983 said:
was totally out of my mind.....
EDIT- Sorry for the TWO posts -_-
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Hey buddy can u changed it and prefix [Solved] before the topic?
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Done
i tried to install a custom rom (cm-10.1-20130527-NIGHTLY-p5100.zip to be exact) it stuck.......it rebooted on its own ond now all i see is the
SAMSUNG GALXY TAB 2 10.1 SCREEN .......nothing else...... when it reboots the same thing happens..........wiping and factory reset did not help and when using odin the same thing happens........nothing ..........please help worried....
can anyone help?????? some said that the bootloader has a problem ....what should i do?
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How long has it been like that on that screen? When first booting into a custom ROM sometimes it takes long.
kidjo said:
i tried to install a custom rom (cm-10.1-20130527-NIGHTLY-p5100.zip to be exact) it stuck.......it rebooted on its own ond now all i see is the
SAMSUNG GALXY TAB 2 10.1 SCREEN .......nothing else...... when it reboots the same thing happens..........wiping and factory reset did not help and when using odin the same thing happens........nothing ..........please help worried....
can anyone help?????? some said that the bootloader has a problem ....what should i do?
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Better flash stock Rom using Odin...& also verify it with others if they have the same problem
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kantry123 said:
Better flash stock Rom using Odin...& also verify it with others if they have the same problem
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where do i get stock rom from??????
though i have allready used odin .........
where do i get it from? ( the stock rom)?
kidjo said:
where do i get stock rom from??????
though i have allready used odin .........
where do i get it from? ( the stock rom)?
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Here we go, buddy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283598
here u can get it...just enter the model name & os & firmware type
http://samfirmware.com/
yo need to flash kernel! from cm rom take out img file! flash it! done!!
kidjo said:
where do i get stock rom from??????
though i have allready used odin .........
where do i get it from? ( the stock rom)?
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The best website to get stock roms-w*w.samsung-updates.com
Note-Replace (*) with (w)
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kunalthakur said:
The best website to get stock roms-w*w.samsung-updates.com
Note-Replace (*) with (w)
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ok found mine......
now how do i install it?????
(if i get my hands on it soon enough, because my brother took it to the store we ought it from to repair it......because it was in warranty....want to see what they will do......)
HI Gurus,
I own the samsung galaxy sgh t959v running on official tmobile stock gigerbread 2.3.6. Recently, I've tried to update it to run on JellyBean(4.1.1) trying to follow the below tutorial.
First you need the ODIN files(to go back to stock) : goo.gl/An7S (scroll down for where it says download and download the 4 files in there )
put this file in your sd card with the other one . if you dont have this file then you wont be able to use recovery mod :goo.gl/FuHFJ
Then you need to root your phone : goo.gl/oW4WO
USE THIS LINK (FOR ROOT)IF NOT FIRST ONE WORKING : dl.dropbox.com/u/13517705/SGH-
Then you gotta update your phone to CM-7 (gingerbread)(2.3.7) : goo.gl/rjFRj
then , you need chimera 2.2 ( ICS )(4.0.4) : d-h.st/uwi
and finally , you need to install panaroid android(JB)(4.1.1): goo.gl/Frl3z
gapps : goo.gl/jN55d
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However, I've landed on a weird situation as shown in the attached image. Steps that pushed me into it are as below.
successfully rooted my phone using the steps from
galaxyforums.net/forum/off-topic-forum/5053-rooting-tutorial-here-posted-permission-t-mobile-galaxy-s-4g-gingerbread.html
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tried update my phone to CM-7 (gingerbread)(2.3.7) : goo.gl/rjFRj only to land into this problem.
I am not able to boot up to download mode either so that I can re-flash the basic stock version.
tried installing chimera 2.2 ( ICS )(4.0.4) : d-h.st/uwi as well but no luck.
I've tried everything from trying to wipe out the data/factory reset.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
Madhu
You flashed vibrant (SGH-T959) ROM and recovery and not SGS 4G (SGH-T959V).
These are 2 completely different devices.
I hope you haven't bricked your phone.
Try the one-click back to stock - specifically section 2...
and if it works, flash only ROMs appearing in this forum development section.
Good luck!
It works
itzik2sh said:
You flashed vibrant (SGH-T959) ROM and recovery and not SGS 4G (SGH-T959V).
These are 2 completely different devices.
I hope you haven't bricked your phone.
Try the one-click back to stock - specifically section 2...
and if it works, flash only ROMs appearing in this forum development section.
Good luck!
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Thank you so much dear itzik2sh. that works! I am back to stock android now.
on the similar lines, can I pick up the any of the ROMs listed here
forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/List_of_ROMs
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Regards,
Madhu
madhukp1 said:
Thank you so much dear itzik2sh. that works! I am back to stock android now.
on the similar lines, can I pick up the any of the ROMs listed here
Regards,
Madhu
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sure can!
gotta have root/cwm first though
madhukp1 said:
Thank you so much dear itzik2sh. that works! I am back to stock android now.
on the similar lines, can I pick up the any of the ROMs listed here
Regards,
Madhu
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You can flash any of the ROMs listed in these SGS4G forums. However, make sure you read the instructions carefully for each ROM, as some require you to have already been on an ICS ROM due to file system changes. Do not flash anything for the Vibrant or any other phone or you will have serious problems. Good luck!
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cpkelley94 said:
You can flash any of the ROMs listed in these SGS4G forums. However, make sure you read the instructions carefully for each ROM, as some require you to have already been on an ICS ROM due to file system changes. Do not flash anything for the Vibrant or any other phone or you will have serious problems. Good luck!
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Revision, every JB and up ROM requires you to be on an ICS ROM first
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Cooptx said:
Revision, every JB and up ROM requires you to be on an ICS ROM first
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No they don't. They will all allow you to flash from stock gb as long as you have cwm 5.x
Ah, my bad
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FBis251 said:
No they don't. They will all allow you to flash from stock gb as long as you have cwm 5.x
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Antonx basic with a twist or bhundvens blastoff v2.5 are two good ones to use
If you don't care for GPS - I'd go with one of our great aries 4.2.2 ROMs.
till this fuctionality is added,
If you want a GPS on your daily driver, you'll have to flash an ICS ROM, such as
AOKP, CM9, HebMIUI, Ultragen....
Issue resolved
Hi Guys,
Thanks you all for the wonderful suggestions. I've now upgraded my sgs4g to ICS on CyanogenMod 9.1.0
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1730954
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and enjoying the awesome rom the developers have come up with. battery backup seems to be pretty good.
However, I had to execute an additional step which was not there in the instructions i.e., after
step 5. Flash the ROM using CWM/TWRP
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phone boots up to ClockworkMod Recovery (CWM) 6.0.1.2. Then I had to install cm-9-20130227-UNOFFICIAL-galaxys4gmtd.zip once again to finish the process. Hope I've not missed something here.
itzik2sh, I'll give a try to the latest aries 4.2.2 ROMs sometime later.
Regards,
Madhu
now running stock rom cause all the roms i try die on me bootloops and no signal or random restarts what to do what to do I am stuck plzz help.
thnx all
.
I have a Samsung galaxy s gt-I9000
running android 2.3.5
baseband I9000xxjvt
kernel [email protected]#2 voodoo
patrickkooistra said:
now running stock rom cause all the roms i try die on me bootloops and no signal or random restarts what to do what to do I am stuck plzz help.
thnx all
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I have a Samsung galaxy s gt-I9000
running android 2.3.5
baseband I9000xxjvt
kernel [email protected]#2 voodoo
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Which recovery are you using? Do you factory reset after flashing? Can you give me a link to the last one you tried?
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Carlyle_f said:
Which recovery are you using? Do you factory reset after flashing? Can you give me a link to the last one you tried?
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hello carlyle
i don't know which recovery I'm running i think its a cwm but i don't know for sure.
how can I check what I'm running on.
this is the odin flash I have on my sgs at the moment if you can get into that that will be helpful.
•Download firmware XXJW4 + Custom Kernel + Odin QUI!!! thx to *XLORY*
I was trying to get this working on my sgs but when I flash this I don't have any simcard to detect so there is no data plan.
TSUNAMI X 5.6 Aokp jb-mr1 android 4.2.2
thnx for the affort.
This http://www.x-planet.it/?page_id=49? I'm at work right now, I will try helping in 2 - 3 hours.
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yes that's the site.
thnx hoop to hear from you in a couple of hours.
patrickkooistra said:
yes that's the site.
thnx hoop to hear from you in a couple of hours.
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OK, I'm home now. Follow this guide to install cwm recovery http://techbeasts.com/2013/10/20/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s1-gt-i9000-guide/
When you done with this, try to flash the ROM again using the guide from the previous link I posted (the link you downloaded the ROM from)
Edit: also, for the no signal problem, try a different modem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870460&page=32[emoji16]
For more help from users who actually owns the i9000, go to the i9000 section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s-i9000
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Carlyle_f said:
OK, I'm home now. Follow this guide to install cwm recovery http://techbeasts.com/2013/10/20/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s1-gt-i9000-guide/
When you done with this, try to flash the ROM again using the guide from the previous link I posted (the link you downloaded the ROM from)
Edit: also, for the no signal problem, try a different modem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870460&page=32[emoji16]
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super thnx will try and will let you know if it works for me
tried everyting
Carlyle_f said:
OK, I'm home now. Follow this guide to install cwm recovery http://techbeasts.com/2013/10/20/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s1-gt-i9000-guide/
When you done with this, try to flash the ROM again using the guide from the previous link I posted (the link you downloaded the ROM from)
Edit: also, for the no signal problem, try a different modem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870460&page=32[emoji16]
For more help from users who actually owns the i9000, go to the i9000 section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s-i9000
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oke I tried everything now and nothing works tried like 5 modems en nothing happens do you have any thing else in mind.
patrickkooistra said:
oke I tried everything now and nothing works tried like 5 modems en nothing happens do you have any thing else in mind.
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Does the Roms still bootloop or is it only the signal problem now?
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Carlyle_f said:
OK, I'm home now. Follow this guide to install cwm recovery http://techbeasts.com/2013/10/20/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s1-gt-i9000-guide/
When you done with this, try to flash the ROM again using the guide from the previous link I posted (the link you downloaded the ROM from)
Edit: also, for the no signal problem, try a different modem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870460&page=32[emoji16]
For more help from users who actually owns the i9000, go to the i9000 section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s-i9000
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have a new problem to random reboots in recovery
Carlyle_f said:
Does the Roms still bootloop or is it only the signal problem now?
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the rom has no signel after flashing new modems and the rom randomly goes in to recovery
patrickkooistra said:
have a new problem to random reboots in recovery
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I'm not sure what that's about. Only other option is to try another ROM now, Cyanogenmod for example, try a stable ROM from here https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=galaxysmtd
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Carlyle_f said:
I'm not sure what that's about. Only other option is to try another ROM now, Cyanogenmod for example, try a stable ROM from here https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=galaxysmtd
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oke tried everything by now and nothing goes same problem no signal
patrickkooistra said:
oke tried everything by now and nothing goes same problem no signal
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I'm sorry buddy, that was the best I could do. Your next step would be to ask help in the Q&A in the i9000 section on XDA. The link I posted earlier. Good luck and sorry I couldn't help more.
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Carlyle_f said:
I'm sorry buddy, that was the best I could do. Your next step would be to ask help in the Q&A in the i9000 section on XDA. The link I posted earlier. Good luck and sorry I couldn't help more.
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Thnx for your affort hoop to hear of you.