can someone port this to our phone ??
http://www.virtuousrom.com/
Guys,
Why you are creating these ROM request threads in Dev section????
1. Think before you create a thread in dev section. Dev section is only for development purposes, not general chat and rom requests.
2. Search and Research before you request anything, because..
3. I don't think it will work on this phone. Its sense (don't know what device or version). Even Nexus s devs and Galaxy s devs can't get the sense fully working on their phones. Even if anyone tries, it would take months to even get it booting (by the looks of sense 4.0 port on galaxy s). Porting Sense is very hard.
Maybe anuraagkochar will donate me a Galaxy SL, if he donate me i'll make a Sense 4.0 ROM for the Galaxy SL. I've already ported it to Galaxy S and Galaxy SIII. See my Sig for more devices and members!
mkalter said:
Maybe anuraagkochar will donate me a Galaxy SL, if he donate me i'll make a Sense 4.0 ROM for the Galaxy SL. I've already ported it to Galaxy S and Galaxy SIII. See my Sig for more devices and members!
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I don't think any body will buy an i9003 for you to port sense4,
I think you should port first and than expect for donations...
and I think it is not ethic to ask for phones to get bought first, you can say that you need donations
to buy a phone .... that is the right way..
thejacko said:
I don't think any body will buy an i9003 for you to port sense4,
I think you should port first and than expect for donations...
and I think it is not ethic to ask for phones to get bought first, you can say that you need donations
to buy a phone .... that is the right way..
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don't be rude to him. you can see he's done some good work. just because he didn't say "I could, but I need a phone first" doesn't mean it's any different.
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Q: "can someone port this to our phone ??"
A: "I can"
Q: "when can you have it done?"
A: "I can do it as soon as I get my hands on a phone, but I can't afford to get one for myself"
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Q: "can someone port this to our phone ??"
A: "if you're willing to donate a phone, then yes, I can"
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Q: "can someone port this to our phone ??"
A: "I could, but I need a phone first"
see any big difference now? how can a person do work on a phone they've never had? there's a difference between a person that does good work saying they need a phone to do their work and someone who's not yet made a name for themselves asking for a phone for the same work. think before speaking next time
thejacko said:
I don't think any body will buy an i9003 for you to port sense4,
I think you should port first and than expect for donations...
and I think it is not ethic to ask for phones to get bought first, you can say that you need donations
to buy a phone .... that is the right way..
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If someone demands you to port a rom, what will you do? Won't you ask that person itself to lend their device? Or will you say ask the community, collect money, donate the money and then you will buy the device and then port the rom? He said what a straight forward person will say to a demanding person and it was the correct manner. 'Nuff Said.
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don't be rude to him. you can see he's done some good work. just because he didn't say "I could, but I need a phone first" doesn't mean it's any different.
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Q: "can someone port this to our phone ??"
A: "I can"
Q: "when can you have it done?"
A: "I can do it as soon as I get my hands on a phone, but I can't afford to get one for myself"
II
Q: "can someone port this to our phone ??"
A: "if you're willing to donate a phone, then yes, I can"
III
Q: "can someone port this to our phone ??"
A: "I could, but I need a phone first"
see any big difference now? how can a person do work on a phone they've never had? there's a difference between a person that does good work saying they need a phone to do their work and someone who's not yet made a name for themselves asking for a phone for the same work. think before speaking next time
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that is not what I ment;
there is too many ways to ask for some thing and there is only a few ways are right!
I respect mkalter and his work, I guess how hard mkalter been working to develope; spending time ,sleeples nights.....
the point is beein polite! the way you ask for things makes differences,
can you see any differences between those to;
1) I want a phone to port commodore64 to sl, If I won't get the phone you get my finger up to your ar.... instead the port.. (sory for that;this one is just wrong )
2) or should I have ask this way; I haven't got the phone and I can't port now,
I will open the project and if I get donation enough to buy a phone than
I will port commodore 64 to the phone. (that one is the right one)
thejacko said:
that is not what I ment;
there is too many ways to ask for some thing and there is only a few ways are right!
I respect mkalter and his work, I guess how hard mkalter been working to develope; spending time ,sleeples nights.....
the point is beein polite! the way you ask for things makes differences,
can you see any differences between those to;
1) I want a phone to port commodore64 to sl, If I won't get the phone you get my finger up to your ar.... instead the port.. (sory for that;this one is just wrong )
2) or should I have ask this way; I haven't got the phone and I can't port now,
I will open the project and if I get donation enough to buy a phone than
I will port commodore 64 to the phone. (that one is the right one)
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maybe you're using some translator to/from english to your native language? mkalter's comment was similar to your second comment, and your second comment was similar to ALL THREE of my sample comments. nobody said anything derogatory or humiliating like what you suggested in your first comment. check what he said again, and if you still have questions, I can help you understand more clearly in pm.
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making a android rom if u want join in u can just message me or replied to this. the rom would work on 3 devices one is samsungjack,blackjack1,2 and the htc snap, an one more sorry its going to be only 4 got carry away.This rom would have htc icons and new different homescreen with a android digital clock like real androids but going to be small and it may be having a new bootscreen thats going to be customize to work on these devices and not harming them the next features it would have is maybe a better quality to the phone ,give the rom htc 3d weather that i been working for quit somtime like almost 3 weeks been working on it and for last it would have is new battery just like my other project i finish yesterday 3/30/10 and new signal icons and much more.THAt why my team needs your help to make this happen for all you windowsmobile standard fans.
If you want to get your htc android on your phone now just follow this link in plz replied of what you think of the improvements that i put into it.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654166
sorry if got your hopes up but the rom wont be starting untillthe beginning of may due to bugs in my other app and working on windowsmobil7series stuff like a app lockscreenand much more.thats why its not going to be develop this month but u cancan help when we start developing it for the devices that i had said.im am real sorry but not that bad working on windowsmobile7seris and working on the htc app/theme u can still enjoy them.
Hi...
Would like to follow you, i have an samsung i600 blackjack and wanted to try android OS on my fone. Let me know if its out and just a curios, will it fully support the hardware on jack? because i know android can not sync to outlook and the only way to syc it is with google.
Thanks, keep up the good work.
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Would like to follow you, i have an samsung i600 blackjack and wanted to try android OS on my fone. Let me know if its out and just a curios, will it fully support the hardware on jack? because i know android can not sync to outlook and the only way to syc it is with google.
Thanks, keep up the good work.
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ya it would support the jack if you want to join the team just message me or just replied to this thread and would have videos on my youtube to see where my team progress is at .but note that we didnt start yet we just making ideas and designs for it so it would look right on are phones may take time.
you can enjoy my other apps by looking at my other threads.
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ya it would support the jack if you want to join the team just message me or just replied to this thread and would have videos on my youtube to see where my team progress is at .but note that we didnt start yet we just making ideas and designs for it so it would look right on are phones may take time.
you can enjoy my other apps by looking at my other threads.
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there will most likely never be "Andriod for the Jack, i617, or i607 or i600". And if it does happen to get developed it wont be by you. Your threads are pointless and you have never provided any info that isnt 100 other places. Stop taking credit for others work. "Your apps"? You have NO apps. Can I get a hooah?
Nottach said:
there will most likely never be "Andriod for the Jack, i617, or i607 or i600". And if it does happen to get developed it wont be by you. Your threads are pointless and you have never provided any info that isnt 100 other places. Stop taking credit for others work. "Your apps"? You have NO apps. Can I get a hooah?
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ok and who are u for saying all this and yes i can be done and u acting like its going to look just like it its going to be similar to the android
julian2596 said:
ok and who are u for saying all this and yes i can be done and u acting like its going to look just like it its going to be similar to the android
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i didnt do nothing to u and u acting like we making it we still dont know if we are still making it because we got to see would this work and right now we are just thinking and designing how we are going to do this anyway and if we do make it just going to have new htc icons a new scroll bar,change the front homescreen buttons to look like htc buttons and maybe change the interface and startmenu to look alittle more good looking and that all we would do.now calm down with all of this.you are like the only annoying person i ever seen if u dont like then leave me alone then im just trying to make my device and other devices look better then it planself and for others who is reading this sorry to anyone
and ya i do make apps just finish it two days ago nottach
What "app" have you created that isn't just other people's work bundled into a single package?
So you want Andriod on your Jack to make it look pretty? So you want an Andriod theme. Not the OS. There's a section here on xda specifically for themes. you should be posting there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=525
Are you using Google translate for posting? I probably wouldn't have posted that if you weren't constantly butchering my native language. Your posts are a bunch of incoherent random thoughts. Learn some grammar and punctuation. Even the native Chinese or Spanish speaker's posts are more proper than yours, and you live in the U.S., according to your flag.
You joined Jan 2010 and you've got over 250 posts! And in 250 posts you said something informative maybe twice.
Take your eyes off your phone, stop thinking how you can make it prettier, make the world prettier.
stll looking for more people who wants to join this team to make this rom happen.Already have 4 people so far need 2 more people who are good at designing and a person who knows alot about windowsmobile phones like me but u have to know lot about standard devices thene we would be able to get started on the rom
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cajunflavoredbob said:
The Galaxy R, that most people are clamoring over, will never get a forum for certain. It's a cheap device that offers nothing new to the community. If you want to mod your device, then get a decent one that we support.
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Now read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1406395
I think we might have pissed them off pretty bad.
Yes they created a sub-forum for us.
Just so that we will stop whining.
But I feel it will stop right there.
Devs may not come in to support our device.
They will probably get the devs to boycott our device n never produce anything.
Then they will claim, "We opened a forum as requested but never promised to offer support for it......".
I'm not saying it will happen, but u never know.
Just my thoughts and rambles......
s4sixty said:
I think we might have pissed them off pretty bad.
Yes they created a sub-forum for us.
Just so that we will stop whining.
But I feel it will stop right there.
Devs may not come in to support our device.
They will probably get the devs to boycott our device n never produce anything.
Then they will claim, "We opened a forum as requested but never promised to offer support for it......".
I'm not saying it will happen, but u never know.
Just my thoughts and rambles......
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XDA mods do not have control over the devs.
The devs will do whatever they want.
Do not worry my friend....
We have already 2 custom roms in production and 1 chinese custom rom it seems.
The sun shines on I9103....
calm down friends,there is no need to fight against the admins.
IMO :
Even s2 users(Or fan-boys ) hate tegra. I don't know why. I am new here. I don't know what happened before. But we have much other things to do.
just leave them.
don't worry about ROMS.
Now Samsung confirmed ICS & more people will buy this phone.
And, I think that Chinese devs already have 2 ROM( i used google translater). here some devs are trying to do. in the future we will have more...
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IMO :
Even s2 users(Or fan-boys ) hate tegra. I don't know why. I am new here. I don't know what happened before. But we much others to do.
just leave them.
don't worry about ROMS.
Now Samsung confirmed ICS & more people will buy this phone.
And, I think that Chinese devs already have 2 ROM( i used google translater). here some devs are trying to do. in the future we will have more...
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yes. I've known some devs are preparing for a new ROM.
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IMO :
Even s2 users(Or fan-boys ) hate tegra. I don't know why. I am new here. I don't know what happened before. But we have much other things to do.
just leave them.
don't worry about ROMS.
Now Samsung confirmed ICS & more people will buy this phone.
And, I think that Chinese devs already have 2 ROM( i used google translater). here some devs are trying to do. in the future we will have more...
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S II fan-boys hate Galaxy R because:
- they can not accept that there is a device that looks exactly like the S II
- they can not accept that there is a device that does the same as the S II
- they can not accept that we can support Tegra 2 Games NATIVELY (we have a tegra 2 processor) and they have to use a software mod to do that
- they can not accept that our device costs less then theirs
- they can not accept that if we overclock our i9103 to 1.3 Ghz, our device is much faster then a stock SII at 1.2 Ghz
But as you say, ignore the Galaxy R haters.
Our success is the best answer.
Peace!
I know someone is developing cm7 on our device. Maybe there is a way to motivate dev to get fully functional cm7 and cm9, and the most beloved miui in the end. (when there will be CM maybe the miui team will get interested in our device)
So maybe support some devs financially to make things happen and push the development forward.
What do you think?
I´m in. I have no idea on how difficult is to port all 3D stuff to CM7, but I know one thing: we´re talking about an API that only the O3D uses so far, and I have no consistent info about other devices using it in the future.
So, for now, all the effort to fully support the Real3D API is something that will not be used for any other phone, which is not good considering anything else done in CM is shared among several devices.
Given all this, I completely agree an extra incentive will be appropriate.
And I go beyond that: if we really donate, I would love to see some docs, how to´s, or at least a log of the daily work. CM development all a mistery for me, and I´m very interested in learning how this stuff work.
I am in, I have already donated to cyanogen mod website but will donate again directly to the person taking care of the nightlies releases.
feels guilty using without paying
I'm just wondering how to organize it? Should we contact to the person which actually ports cyanogen to our devices or maybe make some contest for the willing to earn some money developers ?
Should we set some goal to which amount of money we must collect.. But first the dev must appear and his paypal account that we sent money to.
Any person willing to organize things? Maybe some moderator who wants to cooperate? Some announcement would be helpful...
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I'm just wondering how to organize it? Should we contact to the person which actually ports cyanogen to our devices or maybe make some contest for the willing to earn some money developers ?
Should we set some goal to which amount of money we must collect.. But first the dev must appear and his paypal account that we sent money to.
Any person willing to organize things? Maybe some moderator who wants to cooperate? Some announcement would be helpful...
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want a fully working cm or MIUI asap and don't care about the expenses? find tripnraver and buy him an o3d. you will have MIUI at least really really fast. I can contact him if you want to see if he is interested... He did an excellent job with MIUI on the x10 when we had only eclair available and locked bootloader and the like and he is the one who ported the bravia engine to another phone for the first time (the x10) only a week after arc rom was dumped... he then bought an htc sensation and ported MIUI to them within a week... he is awesome dev though a bit touchy with people using his work in other roms...
Yes, please ask him if he's interested. Maybe we would buy him a phone, what do you think ppl? Miui i one of the best and probably the fastest ROM ever.
IFLPI said:
Yes, please ask him if he's interested. Maybe we would buy him a phone, what do you think ppl? Miui i one of the best and probably the fastest ROM ever.
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ok will do as soon as i get a chance.that means most likely tonight. if you head over to the sensation forums over at modaco you wilm see what i mean. he has like 8-9 different roms going on and his tripnmiui is also mentioned-included in the official miui site though he is not part of the miui team... he is a one man army...
I think the most important point is Real3D porting. Arcee already made clear he´s not going to port it in his CM7 work.
If we´re going to create some "incentive" for someone to have CM and/or MIUI for the O3D, it´s important to discuss beforehand about having Real3D ported, otherwise it´s not worth, in my opinion.
maybe we can collect some money and give it to the developer who give us a fully functionaly rom
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I think the most important point is Real3D porting. Arcee already made clear he´s not going to port it in his CM7 work.
If we´re going to create some "incentive" for someone to have CM and/or MIUI for the O3D, it´s important to discuss beforehand about having Real3D ported, otherwise it´s not worth, in my opinion.
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We should ask if it's possible to port this whole 3d stuff, as he is experienced he will know such thing and give the answer.
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nope I just still cannot get a hold on finding him. seems he is mostly on when i am offline and vice versa.... when i reach him i will let you know. Or you could head over to androidmodaco sensation forums and ask him yourself if you see him online. Name is TriNRaVeR and he has like 6-7 active rom threads there...
update: contacted tripnraver today(finally) and he said he will do some studying on the matter and come back to me but he needs to know what we need as he will most likely have time to dev only one rom for us (he prefers doing MIUI in general) and he will need a phone to work on so we will have to find a way of getting him one. he doesnt mind porting proprietary code so he will of course port real 3d to his rom (he did that with bravia engine which he pulled out of an early arc test phone. he was the first to do that btw). Only thing he always demands is that people ask him before using his work on other roms and when they do give him due credits. And of course all his work will be posted on AndroidModaco as he wants nothing to do with this here site for his own reasons.... basically we need to make sure what we need and find out how to get his hands on an o3d
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update: contacted tripnraver today(finally) and he said he will do some studying on the matter and come back to me but he needs to know what we need as he will most likely have time to dev only one rom for us (he prefers doing MIUI in general) and he will need a phone to work on so we will have to find a way of getting him one. he doesnt mind porting proprietary code so he will of course port real 3d to his rom (he did that with bravia engine which he pulled out of an early arc test phone. he was the first to do that btw). Only thing he always demands is that people ask him before using his work on other roms and when they do give him due credits. And of course all his work will be posted on AndroidModaco as he wants nothing to do with this here site for his own reasons.... basically we need to make sure what we need and find out how to get his hands on an o3d
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I am ready to donate some also...
For me miui would be fine, don't know if it's ok with the others.
So we must have (his) pay pal account to send some money. I hope there are enough ppl who want to contribute. And how much costs optimus 3d where he lives..
ill send money if us thrill users can get a working port
Sent from my LG Thrill 4G...
Are there any HW differences between these two? Or just basebands? Different modems? Gsm vs cdma?
Sorry for the newbie question, but isn´t necessary to have a fully working CM before building MIUI? In other words: isn´t MIUI derived from CM?
If so, he will need to first work on a CM version, and only then go for MIUI, instead of directly going for a MIUI ROM...
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Sorry for the newbie question, but isn´t necessary to have a fully working CM before building MIUI? In other words: isn´t MIUI derived from CM?
If so, he will need to first work on a CM version, and only then go for MIUI, instead of directly going for a MIUI ROM...
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in what i have seen from his developing for the x10 back then he ported miui from scratch. but even so we have nightlies so he takes that, fixes bugs, ports real3d and delivers the package and you can count on his keeping us supported afterwards. plus no need to get him a brand new o3d just a working one so he can work.... but i still need to hear news from him. said he needs some time to do his.homework first cause never had an lg(well he never had an htc either but when he bought sensation he delivered an almost perfect MIUI within one and a half week kernel included
edit: he lives in netherland btw. and you can check his works in androidmodaco sensation forums if interested...
I am ready to donate..
from what i know a lot of developers and enthusiasts are willing to start some porting on our device and it has been discussed for months now so why are we we not doing anything?....is it to do with the missing drivers for the p6200...i dont know myself all i do know is i want cm9 soooo bad and so do a lot of people owning this device i even tryed makeing a cm9 theme but as you all know my themeing skills are sh*t haha
so i guess u are all thinking "why a nother cm9 thread requesting cm9" but this one has been made purely to attempt to recruite those of you willing to help port this baby to our device i think we should give it a go no messing about this time...after all what could go wrong haha.
what to do:
if you are willing to help or make cm9 port then place your user name and description of what you think you can do etc hopefully we will peace some pros together and make this work for the first time. fingers crossed
wa do we loose its ment to be the apocalypse late 2012 so lets do it by then haha
whats in this for me:
well their is a bit on money in this for you guyes if you can help im sure that some people will be willing to donate up to 100 bucks for a build of cm9 i know i am.
lets stars small:
im sure we will all be happy with just a build that boots up haha we can have something to work with.
p.s. please do not ignore this thread
Hello, I'd like to preface this post by saying it's not my goal to accuse anyone of anything or start a flame war. I'm genuinely curious, and just want some open discussion.
I've been confused recently by an undercurrent of resentment or ill-will in the development section. Dev's threads getting closed or deleted for not getting permission to use this or that in their ROM, snide remarks about their abilities in the ROM release thread, long rambling posts about "haters," etc.
What's with this? From my perspective, it almost looks like developers think they should have the right to post edits/changes to HTC's software and framework without permission, but then turn around and say nobody else can build upon their edits without permission.
I firmly believe in giving credit where credit is due, but isn't it a bit counter-productive and even hypocritical to have threads taken down because another dev says "hey I didn't say you could use that!" Isn't XDA built upon the fact that HTC and other manufacturers turn a blind eye to us using and altering their work and releasing the altered product without permission? What am I missing here?
Just to reiterate one more time: I'm not trying to be accusatory, I just honestly want to understand the other side of this argument and why this behavior is being tolerated around here. Thanks!
I agree with you.....but
There has been a few ROMs posted here, that are completely 'kanged' from someone elses ROM.. Now i know the ROM is based of HTC so we all should do as we wish with it, But when someone has spent a lot of time ironing out bugs, adding tweaks and generally reducing the size and making the ROM better... And then someone steals that, changes the build.prop to change the ROMs name and release it as their own is totally out of order..
Now not to mention any names, but this has been done several times since the release of this phone, Its this sort of behaviour that puts serious Developers off the idea of making this phone better for us all..
Majority of the Devs here hardly get paid for what they do, I doubt they receive enough in donations to jack there job and do this full time.. So wouldnt you be annoyed if someone stole your work ? and every one was giving you credit and thanks and donations, Even though those credits / donations belong to someone else ?
We should SHARE in this community, The majority of us do, However we should NOT KANG other peoples work..
Im a big kanger, i kang 3-4 ROMs together, Using bits i like from each ROM and use it as my daily driver, However I would not dream of releasing it as it goes against everything i stand for..
Great discussion you have right here man.
If you don't ask permission for work you can't use the ROM/files etc.
What sucks is if you PM the developer they still say "No" so what is a win win in this situation? People like the word "kanging". It's not kanging at all because none of these files were made by you! All of these files were made by HTC and there Team! Don't claim anything !
So what about leedroids ROM ?? None of his tweaks came built into the HTC ROM, Hes made them himself.. Would you just take his work even if he said no ??
That my friend is KANGING.
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What sucks is if you PM the developer they still say "No" so what is a win win in this situation?
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Surely the win win situation is to put the effort in and make these mods / tweaks yourself ?? If a Dev says no, He doesnt mean, sneakily take it and rename it.
azzledazzle said:
So what about leedroids ROM ?? None of his tweaks came built into the HTC ROM, Hes made them himself.. Would you just take his work even if he said no ??
That my friend is KANGING.
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No I never said that.
I'm just saying. Don't call your work yours because how about if HTC said "Nobody can use our ROM's a base" then if we use it we get sued.
Half of the ROM's are just built of there base with tons of modified things and they still get stuff from other people about "kanging" even with permission etc.
If you don't ask permission for work you can't use the ROM/files etc.
Whats getting you hot and bothered ?? No one here has mentioned your name in any of this, Unless you have a guilty conscience ??
Surely HTC make the ROM and it clearly states 'Do not distribute outside of HTC blabla legal action' Yet every ROM here did so in theory we are all kangers..
But what about android in General ? AOSP / AOKP / MIUI.. all built from scratch.. The effort and hard work Devs put in to make these ROMs work, Surely taking their work and using it without permission is wrong ? wouldn't you agree ?
That's life but I think the people should relax a bit more.
Until Lee's ROM there were only Stock ROMs with some improvement's and tweaks by he_stheone64.
Lee (a great and maybe the best dev) now included any tweaks which available.
But remember that he "only ported" the things from Jan (j4n87 or so is his name).
In fact the whole developement story is just kanging.- Kanging the release's of the company..
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Whats getting you hot and bothered ?? No one here has mentioned your name in any of this, Unless you have a guilty conscience ??
Surely HTC make the ROM and it clearly states 'Do not distribute outside of HTC blabla legal action' Yet every ROM here did so in theory we are all kangers..
But what about android in General ? AOSP / AOKP / MIUI.. all built from scratch.. The effort and hard work Devs put in to make these ROMs work, Surely taking their work and using it without permission is wrong ? wouldn't you agree ?
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I'm not saying anything o-o.
I'll take that I'll take that that's a good thing and great way to say it! Even the HBoot says it yet people make S-OFF etc.
Agree 100% Actually Azzle! Right on
I don't think it is a matter of developers not wanting other developers to use there work- it is the fact that they didn't ask! Alot of work goes into making these Roms- it takes less than a min to send a pm- I know - i've done it
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I don't think it is a matter of developers not wanting other developers to use there work- it is the fact that they didn't ask! Alot of work goes into making these Roms- it takes less than a min to send a pm- I know - i've done it
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Love it
irony?
Anyway, hope this thread won't get to a ***** fight, I won't post in this one anymore..
zylith said:
I don't think it is a matter of developers not wanting other developers to use there work- it is the fact that they didn't ask! Alot of work goes into making these Roms- it takes less than a min to send a pm- I know - i've done it
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Agreed. We're all a huge team/community just making our own ROMs and putting our personal touches to them. It's not about doing something and achieving something, and not wanting to share. Getting permission to use is all that's really required.
No need to fight over this stuff guys....it's just a mistake that can be fixed. No biggie. Just follow the proper procedures and avoid unnecessary run-ins like this. Let's focus on giving the community what they want....and that's options!!!
itsmikeramsay said:
Agreed. We're all a huge team/community just making our own ROMs and putting our personal touches to them. It's not about doing something and achieving something, and not wanting to share. Getting permission to use is all that's really required.
No need to fight over this stuff guys....it's just a mistake that can be fixed. No biggie. Just follow the proper procedures and avoid unnecessary run-ins like this. Let's focus on giving the community what they want....and that's options!!!
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well put.
Not a dev, but been around awhile
On the HTC side--my impression is they don't mind these kangs, even back to the N1. Hence they allow unlocking. They monitor these forums and look for the improvements by the devs to help them also.
Now, that is just my understanding from xda posts I have read going back 2 years on this topic, I may be wrong--
Otherwise, 100% support for asking first and giving credit to original devs--
Ken
rugmankc said:
Not a dev, but been around awhile
On the HTC side--my impression is they don't mind these kangs, even back to the N1. Hence they allow unlocking. They monitor these forums and look for the improvements by the devs to help them also.
Now, that is just my understanding from xda posts I have read going back 2 years on this topic, I may be wrong--
Otherwise, 100% support for asking first and giving credit to original devs--
Ken
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Exactly.
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Thanks for the replies. It makes sense to ask permission first before using others' work- only common courtesy I appreciate the different thoughts on this. Helps to understand where this stuff is coming from. Hopefully this doesn't become a downward spiral of devs having ill-will towards each other and refusing to work together.
Also, I never said HTC was against this community or what it does- only that it seemed hypocritical from some devs to take their work, alter it, and then actively try to stop others from building upon that.
shinkinrui said:
Thanks for the replies. It makes sense to ask permission first before using others' work- only common courtesy I appreciate the different thoughts on this. Helps to understand where this stuff is coming from. Hopefully this doesn't become a downward spiral of devs having ill-will towards each other and refusing to work together.
Also, I never said HTC was against this community or what it does- only that it seemed hypocritical from some devs to take their work, alter it, and then actively try to stop others from building upon that.
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I would hope this brings us closer together- I am new to the dev world- but have been around xda for years. I have no ill will towards ANYONE. Hell people make mistakes- I make mistakes- fix the problem - then move on. We are here for each-other.
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with relation to Htc themselves..im still in shock they havent implemented some of the modifications that xda or devs in general have come up with
htc need to be hiring some of the devs..if only to get rid of the nasty status bar they insist on keeping..in some ways i think they are doing it on purpose just to grate people!
look at the one s source for example..many people have complained and its still not released lol..i think they are just laughing at us
Those are not devs, they are just "devs" if you know what I mean
This is my view, Android is open source right? I mean I agree 100% Give credit where it is due but the thing is, we don't give credit to HTC for the rom base every time. It seems like when a system UI for example is modified, i don't see the issue that if you give them credit why do you have to ask them? Did we ask HTC if we can Mod their system UI? I mean its not like it was ours in the first place. It seems all over rated. If you say Hey thanks John Doe for the Blah blah blah then it shouldn't be an issue. That is one thing that can really put a damper on Development.
Look at the situation with people getting mad at HTC for having the HTC Evita (ATT One X) Having a locked bootloader! some of the devs and people here think they are entitled to these things.
Another Example, The HTC Ruby (Amaze 4G) S-off situation. HTC gives them an unlocked bootloader and they Demand S-off from them. I mean where does they hypocrisy end.
Basically, I believe that if dev's are going to request people to ask them first. I want the Dev's to call up htc before they make a rom, in addition to putting "Huge thanks to HTC for the rom base!" In their threads. Its open source, if they want it closed source then I advise the call apple and develop for them.
azzledazzle said:
Whats getting you hot and bothered ?? No one here has mentioned your name in any of this, Unless you have a guilty conscience ??
Surely HTC make the ROM and it clearly states 'Do not distribute outside of HTC blabla legal action' Yet every ROM here did so in theory we are all kangers..
But what about android in General ? AOSP / AOKP / MIUI.. all built from scratch.. The effort and hard work Devs put in to make these ROMs work, Surely taking their work and using it without permission is wrong ? wouldn't you agree ?
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His response doesn't sound like he's hot or bothered at all. Looks like you're the one catching feelings
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